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Post by Deleted on Mar 18, 2015 14:19:30 GMT
B & hubby work full time and have a 2 1/2 year old - My question is if you work full time pick up your toddler when you get home how much time is spent with your child? Do you feel you need to entertain and spend the entire time with your child? (because you've been away from them all day?) Does your child play alone?
Just curious - I will post in a bit why I am asking
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Post by crazy4scraps on Mar 18, 2015 14:42:05 GMT
That's a big part of why I didn't have a kid when we were in our 30's. DH and I both were working around 65-70 hours a week at the time. He wanted to start a family but I wasn't willing to go through all of that only to put our kid in daycare for virtually all of his/her waking hours. Not only would it have been crazy expensive where we live, but I didn't think it would be fair to the kid either. Once we did have our DD, I was working from home and could juggle my responsibilities more so I could do what needed to be done and I could take care of her myself.
When she was 2.5 she took a decent nap every day which was nice, but at that age she still needed pretty constant monitoring. We had a part time sitter come in 18 hours a week which gave me enough time to be productive working from home without having to sacrifice all of her daytime hours. It really was the best situation all around for us. I would come up and have lunch with her every day and didn't miss out on any important milestones in her life.
ETA: I have nothing against daycare at all, I just didn't want my kid spending 70+ hours a week in someone else's care. That to me is just way over the top, not to mention we were/are self employed and we wouldn't have been able to afford it.
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Post by anxiousmom on Mar 18, 2015 14:44:25 GMT
My personal feeling is that is that it is the quality of the time spent together is more important than the quantity of the time.
We all do the best we can, and sometimes that means that we don't get to spend as much time together with our families as we would like. At the same time though, there are skills that children need to learn, one of which is (at least in my opinion) learning to entertain themselves-learning to play on their own with out someone (or something like tv) telling them how to do so.
It is a fine balance for sure, but-for example, having a child playing alone while someone is cooking dinner, in my opinion is not only an okay thing, but developmentally appropriate.
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Post by calgal08 on Mar 18, 2015 16:39:00 GMT
My personal feeling is that is that it is the quality of the time spent together is more important than the quantity of the time. We all do the best we can, and sometimes that means that we don't get to spend as much time together with our families as we would like. At the same time though, there are skills that children need to learn, one of which is (at least in my opinion) learning to entertain themselves-learning to play on their own with out someone (or something like tv) telling them how to do so. It is a fine balance for sure, but-for example, having a child playing alone while someone is cooking dinner, in my opinion is not only an okay thing, but developmentally appropriate. I totally agree with this. It's not a bad thing for any child to see the world does not revolve around them. Both my boys were in full-time daycare. They both saw Mom and Dad running around getting things done once they got home (well, OK, mostly Mom ). Now at 7 and 11 years old they ask us "once you've got everything done, can we do X, Y Z". My youngest especially is amazing at entertaining himself. Yes, I feel guilty, but there's just not enough hours in the day to work, plus cook/laundry/homework/sports activities - and then add to that spending a lot of 1 on 1 time every night.
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Post by blue tulip on Mar 18, 2015 16:46:10 GMT
my kids were in daycare because I work full time. we had some quality time at nights, but mostly on the weekends. i work 2 jobs, and tho the second is a design business i do from home, I'm still not able to be fully present while I'm working, KWIM? there was only about 3 hours from when we picked kids up to when they went to bed, and you had to squeeze a lot of non-fun stuff in there like dinner, homework. there's church and after school activities too on many nights. i try to wait til they are in bed to do my work, but it's not always possible. and somewhere in there, you just need time for yourself to preserve your own sanity. actually, we still follow that same routine now (4 hours of time with them a night) from when they get home from school to bed. not a lot of time!
i hope you're not asking because you're passing judgement on how much time they spend, and if you deem it quality time, etc.
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Post by cindyupnorth on Mar 18, 2015 17:31:56 GMT
It's all about balance and team work. It wasn't just up to me. It was shared with my dh. We both work a full time job. We had a great great daycare mom. She loved my girls. I would drop them off and pick up from daycare, then go to work. Get home and they would play on their own while I fixed dinner. Later they would do homework, or play outside. We always sat down and ate together. MY dh gets home later. he Always helped take turns with baths. I did 1 day a wk, he did others. He would read them bedtime stories and put them to bed. My girls have always been very good at entertaining themselves. No problems there.
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Post by finally~a~mama on Mar 18, 2015 17:44:29 GMT
I worked outside of the home when my oldest was a toddler. I now stay at home (and youngest DD is a toddler). I would say that yes, when our oldest was 2.5 years old one of us was often entertaining her while the other did some household task. She was a kid that needed a lot of attention. Plus we only had about 3 hours with her each night (less than that if you take out time for a run to the store, etc.). Even if she wasn't being played with she was right by my side "helping" me do laundry, etc. She wasn't very good about playing alone at that age.
Our youngest is almost 2. She has always been better able to entertain herself. On the flip side, she is VERY good at knowing when mama's attention is elsewhere and making a mess in no time flat. LOL Between her more laid back personality and the fact that I'm home with her all the time I don't feel as much pressure (or need) to spend all evening entertaining her. It gets spread out throughout the day. Plus having an older sibling to play with eases the demands on mom & dad.
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Post by rainangel on Mar 18, 2015 17:44:24 GMT
There were a few years there where I felt that I only saw the kids for a short few hours before their bedtime. So the weekends were very important to us. I believed that the kids should sleep in their own bedroom, but every Friday night they slept in my bed. Probably don't seem like much, but the kids looked forward to Friday night all week. Rule was Friday nights, and if you are sick, you get to sleep in mommy's bed. We had special things we did every weekend, certain routines before bedtime on weekdays.... we made it work. I tried really hard to make those few precious hours meaningful. I had to make dinner and do some chores of course, but tried to involve them as much as possible, even if it was just in conversation or we'd sing a song together while I was cutting up vegetables. And then when they went to sleep, I got MY downtime Which has been important to me aswell. I had two girls, only 21 months apart, so they always entertained each other. So I can't really speak to them entertaining themselves ALONE. I don't think I ever felt the need to constantly entertain them personally. They could spend an hour playing with Duplo's, I didn't always feel like I had to play with them. There is nothing wrong with letting them figure things out alone for a while. There should be a balance between doing things WITH them, and letting them do things ALONE right? I think I'd be worried if my child had no idea what to do if left alone for 10 minutes.
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Post by redshoes on Mar 18, 2015 17:57:19 GMT
My DH and I both worked 8-5 with DD in daycare 10 hrs a day until she was around 4 years old. At that point, she began having serious behavior issues, because she simply needed more time and attention from us. I looked around at all of our parent/friends and no one had our schedule! In every case, at least one of the working parents had a job with hours that differed from 8-5 and thus, their child was not in daycare 10 hrs a day. We decided that I would cut back to a part-time schedule and, WOW, what a difference it made for our DD. She was so much happier to have more time with me and her mood and behavior improved immediately. It really changed our family overal
I know that option isn't available for every family - especially single-parent families, but I'm sure glad we were able to make the change.
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Post by josie on Mar 18, 2015 18:02:32 GMT
Same boat as you. It is also why my toddler doesn't go to be until 8:30 or more like 9. We both work full time and after picking her up from daycare or my parents, we don't walk in the house until 6:30pm. Usually I am just trying to get in the house and start dinner - my little one is 3 and so I have tried to involve her as much as possible in the kitchen so I can spend more time with her. (believe me there are some days I just say let me turn on disney jr) Eating together as a family is a priority to me, so we eat between 7-7:30, depends what I am making. Then its our time with her to play until about 8:15, then we start bedtime routine etc. I try really hard to be present during that time - no phones or other chores. After she goes to bed, is when I clean up the kitchen, laundry , chores etc.
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Post by iamkristinl16 on Mar 18, 2015 18:03:35 GMT
I have four kids but the youngest is 3. While I am making dinner, the kids either do their own thing or help me. Usually DH is not home yet at that time.
My stepbrother and his wife have a 2 yo (almost three) and they seem to be unable to leave her some for even a moment. That is not an exaggeration. Other people in the family have commented on it. Preferably, they would have both parents doing everything with her but for sure one. When they have been with us for holidays they literally both went to change her diaper, feed her baby food, change her clothes, put her down for a nap, etc. my mom asked all of us to help plan and prepare one meal during Christmas to allow her to spend more time enjoying family. The wide said that she didn't have time to plan the meal and wouldn't be able to help at my moms either because she would need to be with her Dd.
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Post by eebud on Mar 18, 2015 18:11:15 GMT
When my DS was a toddler, I was a single mom. He HAD to learn to play by himself if I was going to be able to fix dinner, etc. From the time he was 6 months until about 2, I worked 7am to 3:30pm, picking him up by about 3:45pm so we had a bit more time in the afternoon and evening than many have. I then had to go to 2nd shift and was working 4pm to 12:30am. We did all kinds of things in the middle of the night including going out to eat with friends or grocery shopping. I was so happy when the grocery store started staying open 24 hours. DS had a sitter whose husband was a police officer and he worked the same hours I did so she kept DS on my schedule. It worked for us at that time in our lives. Before he started school, I had been laid off from that job and was back to daytime hours. At that point, I actually had less time with him because he had to go to sleep early or he didn't function well the for school the next day.
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Post by scrapaddie on Mar 18, 2015 18:13:13 GMT
Honestly, I often thought that I spent more time with my DD than some of my friends who are home with their children all day. When I came home, I was happy to be with her. She would "help" me fix dinner and we would often take walks or just play. Like other stated, weekends were specially important to us.
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Post by Deleted on Mar 18, 2015 18:36:35 GMT
Thank You all -
B is such and incredible mom she works 8-5 her dh work is a bit more flex and he is able to get toddler earlier so rarely is she there past 5:00 and B works mins away from her daycare. But B and hubs feel as tho they need to entertain toddler once home. And toddler is very clingy to mom 90% of the time and especially if they are at a restaurant or at friends/family house. And toddler seems to take her aggressions out on mom. Toddler is perfect at daycare - no issues what-so-ever! I see mom and dad so exhausted and frustrated and at wits end most of the time.
Parenting is so darn hard and no one way is right or wrong (in most instances) but there has to be balance - it has to work for everyone in the family. Breaks my heart to see B so stressed and exhausted. I really want to talk with her but don't want to step on any toes. Anyone that is around them or knows them knows what incredible parents they are but toddler doesn't need to rule the roost. She needs to learn to play on her own and mom and dad need time to get dinner and have a few mins to unwind without toddler hitting and getting mad.
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Post by Dori~Mama~Bear on Mar 18, 2015 18:41:24 GMT
I was a single parent until daughter was 3 years old. I worked full time and had a 2 hour bus ride from work to baby sitter to home every morning and every night. In the mornings it was too early when I had to get up and most of the time it was wake her up change her and walk out of the house. she slept most of the way to the baby sitters house. When she woke up I would have a snack for her and something to drink. She actually ate breakfast at the baby sitters house. I dropped her off at 6:30 am. then off to work to get there before 9 am I actually had to take a 7 am bus because the later bus got me to work after 9.
On the way home It was the same story except daughter was awake. So we got to hang out just the 2 of us. I would read to her or just sit and hold her. Baby sitter usually fed her dinner because I didn't get off work until after 5 pm and it was after 7 when we got home. most of the nights it was get as much time playing with her as I could. I didn't care about house work or anything else. I just wanted time with my baby.
When I met my now husband it was hard at first to adjust to a schedule and find a close baby sitter so we made the decision to put her in a day care center close to my husbands work because he had a car I was still not driving at the time. Husband would drop me off at work drive to his work town (we worked in to different cities and we lived 8 miles from where I worked) dropped off daughter then after he got off work he would pick up daughter then depending on what time I got off he would come get me before going home or go home for a while before picking me up. But no matter what we did and what time it happened when I got home it was all about spending time with daughter. we did that for almost a year. then we moved to a small town and I got to take daughter to work with me.
I made her a space in the back room for her. She had a nap away, a play area, a tv area, and a little table to eat on or do her little crafts on. I was there for a couple years at that job. She started head start there when she was 4 and went for 2 years. When I ended up losing that job because the salon owner closed the doors. We decided I would stay home until I wanted to go back to work.
I always felt it was most important to spend every minute I could with my daughter. I did find that she loved to help mommy. She wanted to do everything I did. So if I was cooking she wanted to help. If I was cleaning she wanted to help. If I was reading, playing video games or anything else she wanted to help so I let her help. I gave her tasks that at what ever age she was she could learn how to do easily and safely. But at the same time I got to spend every minute I could with her.
We are still really close to day 22 years. I am very lucky that my daughter likes me and wants to spend time together.
Life is short you never know what will happen and every body needs to take the time to spend as much time with their babies as they can. Forget the house work and what ever else stands in the way. You only get one chance to spend a life time with your kids.
Edited to add. I remember many nights waking up with a pile of books on my bed the light on and a little one sound asleep in my arms. She loved reading and I would read to her but she had to have a pile of books. She didn't care about the stuffed animals but she loved them books. I loved those nights.
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Post by finally~a~mama on Mar 18, 2015 20:02:03 GMT
Life is short you never know what will happen and every body needs to take the time to spend as much time with their babies as they can. Forget the house work and what ever else stands in the way. You only get one chance to spend a life time with your kids. Loved your post dorichatelain. Especially this part ^^^
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Post by montanacowgirl on Mar 18, 2015 20:23:32 GMT
My husband and I help raise our 4 granddaughter along with our son. I work 12 1/2 hours day with a 2 hour commute, he takes her to daycare at 7 am and picks her up at 5 every Monday, Tue and every other Wednesday. I stay home with her ever other Wednesday, every Thurs.
Fridays and Saturdays are spent with her dad. Pops picks her up Sunday and we start our week over. We do the best we can, it's a balancing act for sure. She gets to go to Daycare Mon, Tues and every other Wednesday.
We're each other's islands, we do the best we can and try to do whatever we can to help each other. Is it perfect? No, but we do need to work for retirement pay and a modest home. You do what you have too. Kids are resillant, and honestly, I think it's good for them to know that although we we love, provide for and have a safe and nurturing home.... the world does not revolve around them.
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Post by Deleted on Mar 18, 2015 20:32:47 GMT
Thank You all - B is such and incredible mom she works 8-5 her dh work is a bit more flex and he is able to get toddler earlier so rarely is she there past 5:00 and B works mins away from her daycare. But B and hubs feel as tho they need to entertain toddler once home. And toddler is very clingy to mom 90% of the time and especially if they are at a restaurant or at friends/family house. And toddler seems to take her aggressions out on mom. Toddler is perfect at daycare - no issues what-so-ever! I see mom and dad so exhausted and frustrated and at wits end most of the time. Parenting is so darn hard and no one way is right or wrong (in most instances) but there has to be balance - it has to work for everyone in the family. Breaks my heart to see B so stressed and exhausted. I really want to talk with her but don't want to step on any toes. Anyone that is around them or knows them knows what incredible parents they are but toddler doesn't need to rule the roost. She needs to learn to play on her own and mom and dad need time to get dinner and have a few mins to unwind without toddler hitting and getting mad. The bolded part may have absolutely nothing to do with her working or their parenting. My dd is a sahm with four kids. The fourth one would not let her out of his sight and rarely let her put him down. As the youngest of four closely spaced siblings dd certainly had other things to do than spoil him. He was/is mama's boy. He was four before he stopped being quite so clingy. At five he still keeps close tabs on "where's the mama" At 2.5 it isn't so much about "ruling the roost" as it is about learning appropriate ways to express her self. Mom and Dad will have a few minutes to unwind without a tired angry toddler at a later point in their life or after they put her to bed for the night. During the toddler years family life is work life. It is a developmental stage she will outgrow in time.
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Post by Dori~Mama~Bear on Mar 18, 2015 22:56:17 GMT
Life is short you never know what will happen and every body needs to take the time to spend as much time with their babies as they can. Forget the house work and what ever else stands in the way. You only get one chance to spend a life time with your kids. Loved your post dorichatelain. Especially this part ^^^ Thank you
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Post by bigbundt on Mar 19, 2015 0:03:43 GMT
Thank You all - B is such and incredible mom she works 8-5 her dh work is a bit more flex and he is able to get toddler earlier so rarely is she there past 5:00 and B works mins away from her daycare. But B and hubs feel as tho they need to entertain toddler once home. And toddler is very clingy to mom 90% of the time and especially if they are at a restaurant or at friends/family house. And toddler seems to take her aggressions out on mom. Toddler is perfect at daycare - no issues what-so-ever! I see mom and dad so exhausted and frustrated and at wits end most of the time. Parenting is so darn hard and no one way is right or wrong (in most instances) but there has to be balance - it has to work for everyone in the family. Breaks my heart to see B so stressed and exhausted. I really want to talk with her but don't want to step on any toes. Anyone that is around them or knows them knows what incredible parents they are but toddler doesn't need to rule the roost. She needs to learn to play on her own and mom and dad need time to get dinner and have a few mins to unwind without toddler hitting and getting mad. Butt out, they are probably stressed to the max trying to do it all. They don't need your opinion even if you have good intentions. The clinging might just be an age thing. My kid has always been awesome at playing by herself and at that age, she did the same thing. I remember complaining about it to friends because it was always when I made dinner, I always had a kid hanging off my leg. Also kids are almost always worse for their parents, they feel secure and loved and know that it will not be taken away if they lash out. If they feel the need to entertain their kid the entire time, that might be coming from working parent guilt and them trying to squeeze every bit of quality time out of their non-work hours. We thought 2 - 4 was a HARD age and that seems to be the consensus with my parents friends too. If you do feel the need to say something, maybe ask why doesn't one fix dinner while the other is entertaining? I think it is crazy to expect her to play on her own while BOTH parents cook. And I literally laughed out loud at thinking about a toddler giving her parents a few minutes to unwind. When I worked, I unwound on my commute home (sang songs, listened to books on tape, listened to the news, talked/vented to myself about something at work, etc). Any unwinding at home happened after our daughter went to bed. Ain't getting any unwinding time from my kid!
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Post by crazy4scraps on Mar 19, 2015 1:10:39 GMT
And toddler is very clingy to mom 90% of the time and especially if they are at a restaurant or at friends/family house. And toddler seems to take her aggressions out on mom. Toddler is perfect at daycare - no issues what-so-ever! I see mom and dad so exhausted and frustrated and at wits end most of the time. Anyone that is around them or knows them knows what incredible parents they are but toddler doesn't need to rule the roost. She needs to learn to play on her own and mom and dad need time to get dinner and have a few mins to unwind without toddler hitting and getting mad. My almost 5 year old still prefers to be with me almost ALLLL of the time. If given a choice, she will choose me 98% of the time even though her dad tries to be loving and fun. It does get old being her go-to for bedtime every.single.day. and he doesn't press the issue because TBH he would much rather sit in his chair in front of the TV than put her to bed. He does work a lot so she is automatically with me more anyway and I think that might be part of it. He's good about picking up my slack when I want to get away for a weekend or whatever so I can't complain too much. I think at 2.5 years old she's probably not going to totally play by herself for too long or let mom and dad decompress right away in the evening, especially if they are all getting home around the same time. The kid has been waiting all day to see them, and my guess is that if they were to give her 15-20 minutes of face time right when they get home it would help a lot. My DD would always bug the crap out of DH the minute he walked in the door from work, and it would drive him nuts. I finally had to tell him to let his home office work slide for 15 minutes and to sit down and talk to her right when he comes in. I've noticed if he does that she will give him some space after that to do his paperwork without distractions. I agree with whoever said one parent should make dinner while the other supervises. Since the kid is wanting mom anyway, maybe let mom be available to play or read with her while dad takes care of dinner and then dad can take over and get her ready for bed while mom cleans up the kitchen after dinner. It won't be too much longer before she is willing to play independently for a bit so they can do what they need to do when they get home. The years between 2-5 have been tough for us too, but it doesn't last forever and now we're at the point where DD will color, play with her princesses or Legos for a while or watch a show on Netflix without constantly bugging us or making a huge mess. She just didn't have the kind of attention span she has now when she was 2 or 3, nor did we expect her to at that age.
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Post by quiltz on Mar 19, 2015 1:13:43 GMT
My personal feeling is that is that it is the quality of the time spent together is more important than the quantity of the time. We all do the best we can, and sometimes that means that we don't get to spend as much time together with our families as we would like. At the same time though, there are skills that children need to learn, one of which is (at least in my opinion) learning to entertain themselves-learning to play on their own with out someone (or something like tv) telling them how to do so. It is a fine balance for sure, but-for example, having a child playing alone while someone is cooking dinner, in my opinion is not only an okay thing, but developmentally appropriate. I totally agree with this. It's not a bad thing for any child to see the world does not revolve around them. Both my boys were in full-time daycare. They both saw Mom and Dad running around getting things done once they got home (well, OK, mostly Mom ). Now at 7 and 11 years old they ask us "once you've got everything done, can we do X, Y Z". My youngest especially is amazing at entertaining himself. Yes, I feel guilty, but there's just not enough hours in the day to work, plus cook/laundry/homework/sports activities - and then add to that spending a lot of 1 on 1 time every night. You could always have the 7 & 11 year old help you with the chores so that everything gets done a lot sooner. This is the age-range that my kiddos were when they started with chores. Everyone pitches in and then everyone plays together. Helps them learn a good work ethic and also teamwork.
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Post by Deleted on Mar 19, 2015 1:36:04 GMT
Big Bundt I'm not butting in - trust me I just wanted to see others view and take on this. I learned a lot by reading everyone's posts
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Post by bigbundt on Mar 19, 2015 11:49:27 GMT
Good. It would drive me crazy when people would butt in and say something when we were doing the best we could. Most of it did not help either, it just made us feel bad and even more guilty about working. The clinging, while completely age appropriate, might also be a part of being in daycare all day. I work from home but I had to go into the office and help this past Tuesday with an event and was gone all day. My four-year old stayed with her grandparents and she was extremely clingy when we got home. If that is the case with your friends, what are they supposed to do if you say something about that? Quit their jobs? Find another job? Easier said than done.
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Post by calgal08 on Mar 19, 2015 16:10:23 GMT
I totally agree with this. It's not a bad thing for any child to see the world does not revolve around them. Both my boys were in full-time daycare. They both saw Mom and Dad running around getting things done once they got home (well, OK, mostly Mom ). Now at 7 and 11 years old they ask us "once you've got everything done, can we do X, Y Z". My youngest especially is amazing at entertaining himself. Yes, I feel guilty, but there's just not enough hours in the day to work, plus cook/laundry/homework/sports activities - and then add to that spending a lot of 1 on 1 time every night. You could always have the 7 & 11 year old help you with the chores so that everything gets done a lot sooner. This is the age-range that my kiddos were when they started with chores. Everyone pitches in and then everyone plays together. Helps them learn a good work ethic and also teamwork. This is true, but, between homework and sports (which is almost every night) it doesn't leave a lot of down-time for the boys, their schedules are full too.
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Post by epeanymous on Mar 19, 2015 16:21:27 GMT
I had such Working Mom Guilt with my oldest -- entirely self-generated, really stupid. I would get home and spend 3-4 solid hours playing with her, and wouldn't do anything for the house or myself. We ate a ton of takeout because you wouldn't want to take time away from Quality Bonding to cook dinner. The house was a mess because after a full day at work straight into being a one-woman entertainment system, I was exhausted and so was dh.
Guess which one of my kids, to this day, still has trouble spending time by herself and entertaining herself?
Anyhow, I now come home, hang out with the kids some, pick up and clean a little, read a book, go back to hanging out with the kids some, etc. It is more organic and less frenzied. We are in each other's presence (I have a two-year-old so still have a toddler) for three or four hours after work, but it is unstructured time and we are not always "together together," if that makes sense. This year I am on sabbatical so am around at home a lot more, and it is nice -- I will see the kids, do a work project for several hours, take a break with them, go for a walk by myself, etc. I think what I have learned over the years is to try to keep things relaxed and put less pressure on myself and my kids to be Happy Happy Fun Time all the time, and, as a result, everyone is … happier.
ETA: My oldest was also the clingiest of my kids. I think it was something of a cycle (the more I felt the need to have 100% kid time the more she needed it), and also a bit of First-Time Parent Syndrome where I was anxious and it made her anxious.
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Post by ktdoesntscrap on Mar 19, 2015 16:29:47 GMT
Thank You all - B is such and incredible mom she works 8-5 her dh work is a bit more flex and he is able to get toddler earlier so rarely is she there past 5:00 and B works mins away from her daycare. But B and hubs feel as tho they need to entertain toddler once home. And toddler is very clingy to mom 90% of the time and especially if they are at a restaurant or at friends/family house. And toddler seems to take her aggressions out on mom. Toddler is perfect at daycare - no issues what-so-ever! I see mom and dad so exhausted and frustrated and at wits end most of the time. Parenting is so darn hard and no one way is right or wrong (in most instances) but there has to be balance - it has to work for everyone in the family. Breaks my heart to see B so stressed and exhausted. I really want to talk with her but don't want to step on any toes. Anyone that is around them or knows them knows what incredible parents they are but toddler doesn't need to rule the roost. She needs to learn to play on her own and mom and dad need time to get dinner and have a few mins to unwind without toddler hitting and getting mad. I think that different kids have different needs... different parents also have different needs. I would tread carefully they need to figure out what works for them! Perhaps you can get the child some things that they can do on their own and suggest they be " after school" toys. Something that only comes out when the parents need to get stuff done. I am a single parent and I know how hard it can be. Sometimes my kid just needs me. I need to be able to stop what I am doing and focus on her. I work from home which is tougher in some ways because I am there.. but not there. My daughter is 12 and she gets it but still it is hard.
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quiltz
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Jun 29, 2014 16:13:28 GMT
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Post by quiltz on Mar 19, 2015 18:52:19 GMT
You could always have the 7 & 11 year old help you with the chores so that everything gets done a lot sooner. This is the age-range that my kiddos were when they started with chores. Everyone pitches in and then everyone plays together. Helps them learn a good work ethic and also teamwork. This is true, but, between homework and sports (which is almost every night) it doesn't leave a lot of down-time for the boys, their schedules are full too. Then it is time for priorities to be made. At 7 & 11, they can do chores even though they have sports and homework. I am a mom and my kids helped out all the time. This is how they learn. No excuse. Everyone works together and everyone relaxes together.
In your scenario, the parents are exhausted and the kids don't learn that they can't have it all. They will be better prepared for life and college if they learn young. The end.
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calgal08
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Jun 27, 2014 15:43:46 GMT
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Post by calgal08 on Mar 19, 2015 19:15:19 GMT
This is true, but, between homework and sports (which is almost every night) it doesn't leave a lot of down-time for the boys, their schedules are full too. Then it is time for priorities to be made. At 7 & 11, they can do chores even though they have sports and homework. I am a mom and my kids helped out all the time. This is how they learn. No excuse. Everyone works together and everyone relaxes together.
In your scenario, the parents are exhausted and the kids don't learn that they can't have it all. They will be better prepared for life and college if they learn young. The end.
I didn't say they don't do chores. They do. Do they have a huge list every single day. No. But for example, last night they had exactly 1 hour to get all homework done, batting practice done, and bags packed for baseball. They got home from baseball at 7:00, by the time they'd showered, eaten dinner, brushed teeth, etc. it was past bedtime. They were totally exhausted. There's no way I was then going to add chores to their day - and for us - that was a pretty typical weekday scenario.
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