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Post by leftturnonly on Mar 31, 2015 10:53:08 GMT
Once many years ago when I was barely more than a kid, I copied a scene from an old movie and slapped my 6' 4" boyfriend. I had expected him to stand there and take it like the man in the movie did. He didn't do that. He slapped me back before he could even think about it.
One slap on the side of my face not delivered out of anger or with much force gave me a black eye and a lesson I never learned from tv.
By chance, I had a Dr's appointment soon after. The Dr took one glance at me and knew I had been hit. That too surprised me. I thought he'd ask what happened, but he instead asked me if I was still friends with the person who hit me. I was thrown by that and my true feelings must have showed. I was embarrassed. I wasn't afraid it would happen again since it was more of a reflexive response than anything else caused by my own stupid action.
What a way to make sure I would never forget how unpredictable the consequences of even a simple slap could be.
Funny how I don't remember my bf apologizing to me for hurting me, even though I know full well that he did. That just wasn't as important a memory, I guess.
Too bad Whoopie became so shrill and felt like she had to talk over everyone else to be heard. It's a good message.
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Post by leftturnonly on Mar 31, 2015 11:02:48 GMT
When I was young it was not uncommon to see scenes in movies and on TV where a women who was insulted or something hauled off and slapped a man across the face and he would just stand there and take it. Never did they show a man striking back. Sometimes he might grab her arm in mid swing but nothing beyond that. No one really sees that depicted that way anymore unless they are watching an old rerun or something. I grew up thinking it was OK to hit a man and that a real man would never think to hit back. Those days are over and thankfully long gone. No one should hit anyone. If someone hits the other one needs to get away if they can, man or woman. It makes me sad to think that people think it's OK to hit each other. But then, I'm very anti hitting kids too, so all of it makes me sad. See my post above. I can still recall that scene in the movie all these years later as well as my complete surprise when I realized how foolish it really was.
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Post by leftturnonly on Mar 31, 2015 11:29:21 GMT
No actually Whoopi does seem to think it is OK. I used to watch The View and I've heard her talk about this multiple times in relation to different celebrities and other people who make the news headlines. She consistently says that women who get beaten up by men "provoke" them and that if a women 'starts it' then men are within their rights to retaliate. Even with Rihanna and Chris Brown, when there were photos all over the media of her bruised face, Whoopi said "we weren't there, we don't know what happened, maybe Rihanna started it" She is always on the side of the man and always says that it is possible that the woman started it. This is just one more of her ignorant comments in a long line of them. I haven't watched The View for awhile now, but Whoopi's constant drug induced whacked out ideas were the reason I stopped. Oh. I never watch The View. I don't follow Whoopie or other celebrities. When I said it's a goid message, I didn't mean this. If you hit someone you should expect to be hit back. No one should think they can slap someone and not be slapped back. That's a really fast reflex the other person may not be able to stop and you can get hurt. Punching your girlfriend out cold is entirely different. I'm disappointed anyone considers an excuse even possible.
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Post by Karenina on Mar 31, 2015 11:56:57 GMT
I understand the sentiment of some us on this thread that write, "it is never okay to hit anyone, ever"
BUT
Sometimes, it is perfectly okay.
If someone hit me, or somebody I love, I would hit back until we were safe.
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Post by Deleted on Mar 31, 2015 13:56:49 GMT
I find her viewpoint interesting because she's right, at one time, chivalry really meant something. Nowadays it means squat. If a woman hits a man, there is no societal guarantee he will not hit back. It's kind of the "don't start nuthin', won't be nuthin'" mentality that is so prevalent today. Once upon a time, a lady wouldn't dream of raising her hand to anyone. Female violence in any form was severally frowned on and that was one of the reasons why hitting a lady was pretty much forbidden - they wouldn't even know how to defend themselves if struck. Today, men can be silent victims just as women can be. Domestic abuse is not just against women and children anymore. My mother was in the category of people who believed that woman who get raped probably deserved it and should just lay there and take it. A woman should never fight back, it is just not right. My brother could hit me , but if I hit back I would get a beating from dear old dad. We have told daughter it is her right to defend herself and don't worry about hurting some guy's penis or testicles. Her safety is more important than their junk. More woman need to believe this.
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Post by Yubon Peatlejuice on Mar 31, 2015 14:36:41 GMT
] Further to that, there has recently been a huge focus here about men not hitting other men also. We have had a number of deaths in Australia called "one punch" attacks. Men get into an argument on the street and one hits the other, he falls to the ground, hits his head on the pavement and dies (or a few have been left profoundly disabled). Men do need to learn that it is not acceptable to strike out and punch someone when they annoy you. Those days are well and truly over in countries like ours. I blame Hollywood action movies. People really don't get hurt. Look at those stupid Fast and furious movies or die Hard. One punch never kills anyone. 300 punches, a nail gun to the side, a baseball bat to the stomach, cable fibers stuck in your arm, shrapnel in your head, and driving a car off a cliff all within the span of 3 minutes never hurts anyone. Women get their asses kicked and get back up. (Think Angelina Jolie as Lara Croft) Video games are even worse. We become desensitized to it and don't think that a punch is a big deal at all. And yet the human body is way more fragile than Hollywood portrays.
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