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Post by freecharlie on Apr 8, 2015 1:06:02 GMT
Maybe it just hasn't gone viral yet or maybe it is because the man killed was not a young black teen, but an older (50 year old) black man. THIS is the outrageous shit that people should be up in arms about. This video shows the man running from the cop. There is no need to use deadly force as neither the officer nor any victims were in danger. Instead of elevating Michael Brown to sainthood, the "hands up, don't shoot" people should be trying to bring light to this shooting. I'm linking to a story with the video. The video does show the shooting and the man going down. Viewer discretion news story and video' Sorry if this has been posted
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Post by christine58 on Apr 8, 2015 1:07:56 GMT
I think I might have seen something on FB...have they charged the officer with murder???
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Post by basketdiva on Apr 8, 2015 1:09:57 GMT
This shooting was handled swiftly and correctly which is a good thing.
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Post by Deleted on Apr 8, 2015 1:10:45 GMT
I just saw this on NBC, so it's hitting the national news.
I think the response by the department to arrest the officer will go a long way toward preventing another Ferguson.
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Post by 950nancy on Apr 8, 2015 1:11:17 GMT
It is all over the news here. Maybe it just hadn't had the time it needed to go viral yet.
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Post by freecharlie on Apr 8, 2015 1:11:18 GMT
I think I might have seen something on FB...have they charged the officer with murder??? Yes, which is probably why it showed up on my news station.
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Post by ingrid on Apr 8, 2015 1:11:31 GMT
It's the front page of CNN.com and a top post on Reddit. I'm sure other outlets have picked it up, but the three websites I've visited today (including this one) are all talking about it. I'm not sure what constitutes as outrage these days, but the story is certainly getting attention.
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Post by donna on Apr 8, 2015 1:18:24 GMT
Yes, he has been charged with murder. I was horrified when I saw the video on the local news. I feel so bad for the family having to see this on the news.
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Post by peasquared on Apr 8, 2015 1:22:49 GMT
That was absolutely horrid to watch. I'm glad the cop is being charged for murder. He was late on child support, not a an escaped murderer. So very sad. I feel for his family. Not just that he's gone, but also that they have to see his murder on TV over and over again.
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Post by jeanninem on Apr 8, 2015 1:31:21 GMT
Not to minimize this shooting at all, because it's horrific. But do we have to be outraged over everything? The cop was quickly arrested and charged with murder. No hiding behind the shield. No one making excuses. Again, no justification and no defense of the cop. But I believe that being outraged over everything diminishes the effect and numbs people. "Oh yeah, there they are on TV all outraged again." Had the cop not been swiftly dealt with, as stated above, then the outrage would be appropriate. Again, not minimizing the tragedy, injustice and loss.
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Post by Deleted on Apr 8, 2015 1:35:32 GMT
There is outrage in this house tonight. And sadness. Immense sadness for the man senselessly and brutally killed and for his family.
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Post by freecharlie on Apr 8, 2015 1:37:33 GMT
Not to minimize this shooting at all, because it's horrific. But do we have to be outraged over everything? The cop was quickly arrested and charged with murder. No hiding behind the shield. No one making excuses. Again, no justification and no defense of the cop. But I believe that being outraged over everything diminishes the effect and numbs people. "Oh yeah, there they are on TV all outraged again." Had the cop not been swiftly dealt with, as stated above, then the outrage would be appropriate. Again, not minimizing the tragedy, injustice and loss. The outrage should be that he felt justified in shooting this man or that he should/could do it. This man was running from the cop. He posed no threat. He wasn't facing him, wasn't holding anything, wasn't attacking him. I think this is what you get outraged over. Not where someone is physically resisting arrest by being physical with an officer, not while attacking an officer, not while in the commission of a crime. I'm glad he was arrested (only after the video surfaced). He had originally said that he feared for his life and followed procedures.
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Post by Dori~Mama~Bear on Apr 8, 2015 1:39:11 GMT
The news said the cop is being convicted for Murder. This will make him go to court. this means he was arrested. I feel for this mans family. Not only did the video show the man getting shot but it also showed him laying on the ground after being shot and then the cop that shot him went over to him and put hand cuffs on him.
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Post by papercrafteradvocate on Apr 8, 2015 1:41:18 GMT
Not to minimize this shooting at all, because it's horrific. But do we have to be outraged over everything? The cop was quickly arrested and charged with murder. No hiding behind the shield. No one making excuses. Again, no justification and no defense of the cop. But I believe that being outraged over everything diminishes the effect and numbs people. "Oh yeah, there they are on TV all outraged again." Had the cop not been swiftly dealt with, as stated above, then the outrage would be appropriate. Again, not minimizing the tragedy, injustice and loss. The outrage should be that he felt justified in shooting this man or that he should/could do it. This man was running from the cop. He posed no threat. He wasn't facing him, wasn't holding anything, wasn't attacking him. I think this is what you get outraged over. Not where someone is physically resisting arrest by being physical with an officer, not while attacking an officer, not while in the commission of a crime. I'm glad he was arrested (only after the video surfaced). He had originally said that he feared for his life and followed procedures. Fwiw he did state (was in the news report I read) that there was a struggle, something was dropped... I'm Not justifying anything just saw that there had been something mentioned in the story
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Post by jeanninem on Apr 8, 2015 1:41:21 GMT
Again, I am by no means defending the cop or saying that people should not be angry and upset. It just seems like people are "outraged" all the time. I just feel that it diminishes the value of the argument.
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Post by katybee on Apr 8, 2015 1:46:35 GMT
Again, I am by no means defending the cop or saying that people should not be angry and upset. It just seems like people are "outraged" all the time. I just feel that it diminishes the value of the argument. I think this is absolutely a reason to be outraged! Doesn't mean that were outraged at the police force – which seems to be handling the situation appropriately. But we can be outraged that it happened. A man is dead! For no good reason… If not now, when WOULD outrage be acceptable?
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Post by freecharlie on Apr 8, 2015 1:49:03 GMT
Again, I am by no means defending the cop or saying that people should not be angry and upset. It just seems like people are "outraged" all the time. I just feel that it diminishes the value of the argument. I agree with this statement. I just feel that this is a situation we should be outraged about. I think some of the other outrage was unjustified and it has caused it to diminish for a situation that warrants it. I saw that too and had whatever it was still been in the man's possession and used in a threatening way, then maybe this goes differently. But since it seems like the guy dropped something and then ran and was many feet away from the object and still fleeing...
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Post by katybee on Apr 8, 2015 1:50:17 GMT
Fwiw he did state (was in the news report I read) that there was a struggle, something was dropped... I'm Not justifying anything just saw that there had been something mentioned in the story [ The video clearly shows the cop dropping that "something" near the body of the victim. It looks suspiciously like tampering with evidence – making it appear that the man had that something…and maybe at one point he did. But you leave it where it falls – you don't pick it up and drop it closer to the victim/suspect.
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Post by Deleted on Apr 8, 2015 1:51:05 GMT
Again, I am by no means defending the cop or saying that people should not be angry and upset. It just seems like people are "outraged" all the time. I just feel that it diminishes the value of the argument. Yes, they are. You are right about that. So what do you suggest people do when something happens that truly warrants being outraged? Like this incident? L
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Post by stittsygirl on Apr 8, 2015 1:52:08 GMT
It is all over the news here. Maybe it just hadn't had the time it needed to go viral yet. This. I just saw it today. I don't believe the video was released immediately. It does seem pretty clear cut though, including what appears to be the officer dropping the taser near the body afterwards.
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Post by jeanninem on Apr 8, 2015 1:58:46 GMT
Again, I am by no means defending the cop or saying that people should not be angry and upset. It just seems like people are "outraged" all the time. I just feel that it diminishes the value of the argument. Yes, they are. You are right about that. So what do you suggest people do when something happens that truly warrants being outraged? Like this incident? L To me, the "outrage" would have come if the cop was put on administrative leave pending an investigation, if the mayor and police chief are on TV or quoted as defending the cops actions when clearly he shot and murdered a man running away from him. In the previous cases of cop shootings that have been in the news, the outrage came over the indifference shown to the dead men, to the indifference shown to the community - their concerns and patterns of racial injustice. The appearance of a cover-up. Sequestered grand jury investigations. I don't think anyone can watch that video and not see what happened. That was why the officer was arrested and charged with murder.
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Post by Deleted on Apr 8, 2015 2:08:55 GMT
Yes, they are. You are right about that. So what do you suggest people do when something happens that truly warrants being outraged? Like this incident? L To me, the "outrage" would have come if the cop was put on administrative leave pending an investigation, if the mayor and police chief are on TV or quoted as defending the cops actions when clearly he shot and murdered a man running away from him. In the previous cases of cop shootings that have been in the news, the outrage came over the indifference shown to the dead men, to the indifference shown to the community - their concerns and patterns of racial injustice. The appearance of a cover-up. Sequestered grand jury investigations. I don't think anyone can watch that video and not see what happened. That was why the officer was arrested and charged with murder. Very good points, jeanninem and I will concede that you are correct. Sustained outrage should be saved in the event that proper actions against the officer were not taken. In this case, they have been. At least so far as now. Still, what happened in that video did outrage me. How could it not? L
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Post by NoWomanNoCry on Apr 8, 2015 2:27:37 GMT
Prayers for Mr. Scott's family. I can't even imagine what they are going through.
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Post by Deleted on Apr 8, 2015 2:44:48 GMT
I posted about this on my FB page earlier... discussion has been light. I take offense at it being called a "tragedy" when it's a CRIME.
A tragedy would be if there were collateral damage due to eight rounds fired off. Who knows who/what else may have been in the line of fire?
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Post by epeanymous on Apr 8, 2015 3:03:05 GMT
I was a defense attorney in South Carolina, so it is all over my Facebook feed.
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Post by foolana on Apr 8, 2015 3:08:41 GMT
I am very outraged by the murder of Walter Scott. I fear that because the killing happened in South Carolina that a jury will find the officer not guilty if it goes to trial. It's hard enough to get a conviction on a cop who murders a black male suspect in the rest of the country but it's nearly impossible in the South.
JMHO.
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Post by AnotherPea on Apr 8, 2015 3:11:26 GMT
WTH?
What crap is that? A white cop will get away with murder because it happened in SC? When video is available?
What BS. That's so offensive to people that choose to live in the south.
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Post by foolana on Apr 8, 2015 3:12:56 GMT
Not to minimize this shooting at all, because it's horrific. But do we have to be outraged over everything? The cop was quickly arrested and charged with murder. No hiding behind the shield. No one making excuses. Again, no justification and no defense of the cop. But I believe that being outraged over everything diminishes the effect and numbs people. "Oh yeah, there they are on TV all outraged again." Had the cop not been swiftly dealt with, as stated above, then the outrage would be appropriate. Again, not minimizing the tragedy, injustice and loss. Just because the cop was arrested doesn't mean he'll be convicted. Arrested and charged is not enough. Only time will tell. How can one not be outraged by someone empowered to keep peace in our society murdering someone in cold blood and then trying to cover it up by dropping a taser by the body? He also handcuffed the man after he was dead from 9 gunshots wounds to the back.
I don't know what else to call this but outrageous!
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Post by foolana on Apr 8, 2015 3:13:43 GMT
WTH? What crap is that? A white cop will get away with murder because it happened in SC? When video is available? What BS. That's so offensive to people that choose to live in the south. I live in the Deep South. Do you?
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Post by Deleted on Apr 8, 2015 3:14:31 GMT
I posted about this on my FB page earlier... discussion has been light. I take offense at it being called a "tragedy" when it's a CRIME. A tragedy would be if there were collateral damage due to eight rounds fired off. Who knows who/what else may have been in the line of fire? Of course it's a crime, but is it not also a tragedy that a man was senselessly killed for no good reason? There has to be multiple victims to deem it a 'tragedy'? I don't understand. L
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