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Post by Woobster on Apr 30, 2015 22:16:20 GMT
Unfortunately, the way their electronic application is set up, you have to provide all of the required information (salary is a required field unless you mark that you are unemployed) or it won't allow you to submit. There is a dollar amount box, and then a /week/month/year drop down menu to choose from. I suppose I could have entered a lower amount, but a) I really don't make *that* much money... Certainly not an amount that I thought would take me out of the running for something that paid less, and b) I don't want to have to explain why that number was incorrect in the event that I have to provide proof of salary.
And when she asked me point blank on the phone, I answered honestly.
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Post by annabella on Apr 30, 2015 22:18:34 GMT
In electronic forms I put 0 as my salary. I never ever tell them my salary. On the phone I politely decline to give my salary.
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Post by Woobster on Apr 30, 2015 22:23:06 GMT
Now that I am aware that it is a common issue, I may start doing that. However, since my salary was no issue the first time around, I never expected it to be this time either.
Lesson learned.
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Post by Deleted on Apr 30, 2015 22:28:16 GMT
I will say from an HR side that you should answer any question (that is not against the law) honestly. Your best bet if you don't want to say is to state that you are uncomfortable giving that info at this point in the process. If you lie, they can terminate you if they find out later that you lied to get the job. I never suggest applicants lie, because usually there is a statement on all applications that state you are being truthful and if they find out later you lied, it is cause for termination. But do realize that if you refuse to give the amount, it might throw you out of the running for the position -- if the employer cares.
Like someone else said, often the employers want to weed out early rather than waste both sides time if the person is going to want too high a salary/wage. One example we posted a job and put in a salary of $36K (starting position) and got all the way through interviews and background check to the final job offer and the applicant came back and tried to negotiate to $48k! Honestly the person managing there the longest didn't even make that salary! I just wish the applicant had been honest since we HAD posted the paying salary.
That said, on the lower ends of the pay scale, I will tell you pretty much anyone we have hired in at a lower rate (overqualified) rarely stays more than a few months. We just can't give them raises/promotions/higher level work fast enough. Now we are "for profit" but only have a few "management/supervisor" positions. I think that would be a different view as a non-profit. To the OP, if anything I would make sure they understand that you believe in THE CAUSE enough to be willing to take a (large) paycut in return for your passion/happiness working at their organization.
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Post by Woobster on Apr 30, 2015 23:25:20 GMT
Thank you, luvspaper... I greatly appreciate your experience and your advice to focus on believing in the cause. That is exactly what I am hoping to do.
I just heard from the hiring manager a few minutes ago. She said they are going to be interviewing over the next couple of weeks, and that she isn't going to make me go through that part of the process again. For that, I am thankful!
I am also thankful to, at this point, still be in the running. With an entirely new pool of applicants, I realize my chances are slimmer. My fingers are still crossed though!
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Post by dillydally on May 1, 2015 0:42:05 GMT
I have been on both sides - once where we hired someone who swore up and down the cut in pay was just fine and then shortly after taking the position was disgruntled with her pay. Left a bad taste. But, I won't say never again, because, I also took a cut in pay for my job. I had been a manager with a big 6 firm, working crazy hours, wanted to have a baby, and just didn't want to do it any more. One of my clients (a non-profit) had an opening (isn't that where all CPA's go, LOL), and from working with them, I could tell that they were very supportive of family-work life, they had great benefits (9.5% retirement contribution, 4 weeks vacation plus a week off at Christmas), and I have been there 17 years now. I think if you sit down and spell out exactly why you are willing to take the job at lower pay, rather than just saying the cut is ok, I think that might make the hiring folks feel more comfortable. Good luck!1 I hope this works out for you!
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Post by Woobster on May 1, 2015 1:43:23 GMT
Thanks, dilly dally... I appreciate the advice!
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