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Post by amom23 on May 26, 2015 13:50:39 GMT
It has to be the absolute worst part of scrapbooking. I eventually do it because I know it's important blah, blah, blah......but I hate every bit of the entire process.
PS - I hate scrapbooking Christmas too and the dang holiday comes every dang year!
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Post by Karen-in-Indiana on May 26, 2015 14:16:07 GMT
I am the same with journaling! I've procrastinated finishing a layout because of it many times! karen
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Post by mikklynn on May 26, 2015 14:16:31 GMT
I have a ton of journaling cards, but still struggle with it. I usually get down the date and location, and who is in the photo. Beyond that, I could do better! But, sometimes, I think that's all I need.
Christmas is probably my least favorite thing to scrapbook, too. I love the holiday, but it seems like all my photos are crap. I can never get anyone to just look at the camera. I get someone's rear end in the photo, half the tree, the half opened package covering faces...
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Post by alittleintrepid on May 26, 2015 14:22:54 GMT
I find journaling hard if I just try to write when I'm putting the page together. I like to write though and find it works better for me to tell the story separately (write it in a notebook) as an entirely different activity. (Does that make any sense?)
My Christmas problem is that I get a million photos but never get a decent tree shot or a decent family picture (except for our Christmas cards!)
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Post by Deleted on May 26, 2015 15:57:04 GMT
Journalling is a huge hurdle for me, too. But like you, I feel that it is important and I always try to journal on every page.
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Post by Deleted on May 26, 2015 15:58:03 GMT
I find journaling hard if I just try to write when I'm putting the page together. I like to write though and find it works better for me to tell the story separately (write it in a notebook) as an entirely different activity. (Does that make any sense?) This is a great suggestion! I used to "journal" on my blog regularly, and then when I had photos I wanted to scrap, I could go back and see what I was writing about during the period those photos were from.
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Post by isbaha on May 26, 2015 16:15:54 GMT
I hate it too. I always journal ahead, when planning my photos order and which layouts I want to do. I often match pretty photos without story with journaling without photos if they both happen about the same time. I also use my dayly notebook a lot (it's when I note little things of everyday, mostly about my kids).
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Post by Deleted on May 26, 2015 17:23:26 GMT
Christmas photos are notoriously bad. I make everyone stand by the tree for a shoot before we open gifts. Then I just try to get one good shot of each person with a gift. If I get nothing else, I am happy.
I journal on most every page or at least put a place and date. Almost always short and easy. Y'all must be doing a lot more than me.
What I'm struggling with right now is some bad pics taken at Dollywood at night at Christmas. I want the kids to remember we went there but these pics are not inspiring me. I just drug out my sketch books to see if I can get inspired.
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Post by lisacharlotte on May 26, 2015 17:45:37 GMT
I struggle also. It always ends up who, where, when. Becky Higgins explained a way to journal that makes sense to me. Imagine you're showing someone yor scrapbook and what would you say to describe the photo? Usually we have a funny story about what was happening when we took the picture.
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Post by crimsoncat05 on May 26, 2015 19:45:54 GMT
I struggle with it, also-- sometimes. I am mostly a who/what/where/when type journaler unless I think about WHY I am making the scrapbook layout.
Example: I made a two-page layout with photos of wild horses that live near the town where we live. I had originally thought I would write about the history of the horse herd, or the history of the area in general. But when I finally did the writing, I ended up writing more about how privileged I feel to live in an area where there is still some bit of the 'wild west' because to me, that was the main reason I felt so strongly about the pictures and why I wanted to preserve them by making the layout.
Sometimes, it surprises me just how much I have to write about something when I let it flow out, sort of 'stream of consciousness' writing. I have to do it separately from making the pages, though, to get it to come out like that.
--And as for Christmas, I am totally NOT an 'occasion' scrapper, so I don't scrapbook holidays unless there's a really unique reason to do so!! It would totally kill my creativity to think I had to scrap every Christmas, Thanksgiving, etc. that came around.
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Post by stefdesign on May 26, 2015 20:26:56 GMT
I feel your pain! I'm pretty much an event scrapper, in which case I get tired of writing "Bruce and I spent a lovely day at blah blah blah. We saw some amazing blah blah blah and had blah blah blah blah", it gets pretty boring. So I tend to just put the basic who what where when info. But I do occasionally need to tell a story, and in that case I almost always write my thoughts separately, edit, rewrite, refine and edit again before I add it to my layout.
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Post by checkwheelsdown on May 26, 2015 20:53:28 GMT
I use my calendars to remind me of the what/when/where but this: I struggle also. It always ends up who, where, when. Becky Higgins explained a way to journal that makes sense to me. Imagine you're showing someone yor scrapbook and what would you say to describe the photo? Usually we have a funny story about what was happening when we took the picture. is a great idea to add a little more meaning to my layouts...thanks for pointing out this Becky Higgins technique!
(Hijack: speaking of Becky Higgins, is anyone following her trip to Europe on FB? She's taken some neat photos in London and Paris and is providing a lot of instruction and tips along the way....)
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Post by crimsoncat05 on May 26, 2015 21:00:35 GMT
journaling doesn't always have to go directly with the pictures, either... even if you're an event scrapper, you could use the journaling on the layout to tell a story about something else that happened during that event, a story / memory sparked by something in one of the pictures, etc.
I think I have a couple layouts like that-- I was telling someone a story related to the photo while I was showing them a page (which didn't have any journaling on it at the time), and they were like, 'why don't you write that down??' My first thought was, well, duh! But for some reason, I previously thought of it like 'well, I can't do that because it doesn't go directly with the occasion on which I took the photo. But it's my album- I can do whatever I want! lol!!
Lots of times, I leave the journaling till last because I can't think what to write-- but then, when I'm showing someone the pages, I'll tell them plenty of info about the pages... partly because I think I've been conditioned to think that SB journaling has to be emotional, about your feelings, etc. But it doesn't always. Whatever you would tell someone if you were showing them the layout or photos (even if it's just where you were, when it was, and who else was there)... it's perfectly okay to be a list-style, bullet-style, who/what/when facts style journaler.
ETA: HA! I guess maybe I read the reply earlier in the thread that said basically the same thing, but didn't realize it-- lol!
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Post by loco coco on May 26, 2015 21:20:42 GMT
me too, I feel like half of my pages have "we had so much fun at ...."
BORING. I really only scrap fun events me and DH go to but I need to figure out a way to freshen up what I write
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Post by doesitmatter on May 26, 2015 21:23:59 GMT
I really hate it too! I admit I have a pile of layoust that need just the journaling! Sometimes I just can't think of what to say. I don't like to get mushy or too personal and prefer the photos to tell the story. I do try to cover the W's at least One issue with journling for me is that I dislike hand written journaling - I think can count on 1 hand the number of people who do a nice job hand journaling. So usually I type mine and that can be time consuming - especially if printing on specialty media... I also struggle with titles. SO many layouts don't get titled. Shrug. I will have mroe time this summer than I have had in awhile earning my degree and hopefully I will catch up on some of this stuff, or at least make some almost finished layouts
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Post by lesley on May 27, 2015 0:11:38 GMT
I hate to see really bland journaling on otherwise great layouts. The kind of thing that goes "you're so important to me and I love you so much". Well duh! What is really the point of writing that? You could put this on every single layout of your child/parent/partner/friend/dog, etc, so I see it as essentially meaningless. If you don't have anything specific to say, then just do the who, where, when stuff.
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Post by GiantsFan on May 27, 2015 0:38:14 GMT
Here is my idea of journaling ===> Yosemite National Park May 2015 A place name and date. That's all I do.
Actually on our Mediterranean cruise vacation, I journaled each days events in a couple sentences using a postcard template and started each post card with Dear Family & Friends,...blah, blah, blah...GiantsFan. It turned out really cute.
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Post by impearia on May 27, 2015 2:02:20 GMT
I LOVE journalling! I even taught a class on journalling a long time ago now, at my LSS. I might suggest a couple of things... 1)As an exercise first, think about the story you want to tell, write it down and then do a layout. This upside down sort of approach can stir things up sometimes. 2) Don't force yourself to journal beyond things like date, who is in the pictures etc on every layout. Not ever layout is telling a long story, Sometimes a sentence or two is enough! 3) I think sometimes we get caught up in the reporting style..."We did this...We saw that..." and that can be a bit dry. Try some different styles of journalling: lists (top ten, currently loving, 10 things I love about you etc); write a letter to the subject of the page; make a huge title with stickers or Silhouette and have that be your journalling; use a favourite quote to get you started; have the subject of the page do the journalling ( I love seeing kids feelings and thoughts on the photos!) there are lots of other options these are just a few. I did a page pretty recently that I wrote as a "Fairy Tale" It even started "Once Upon a Time" it is in the gallery, if you want to take a peek it is here: My Unicorn4) Why do you hate journalling? Do you feel your writing is inadequate? Do you have nothing to say? Do you hate your handwriting (or how typed journalling looks etc) think about the reasons why and work around those. For example, if you hate your handwriting practice it or used typed journalling. If you think journalling spoils your page designs study some sketches that include journalling space, use journalling cards, use hidden journalling or even journal on the back of the layout. 4) I have never taken one, but I know many, many people feel that Ali Edwards classes (and now her story kits) have been immeasurably helpful in teaching them how to see journalling differently and how to tell the stories they want to tell on their pages. So you could look into that. ashley, I am surprised to see you say you struggle with journalling as I always enjoy the sweet poems on your pages. You make them look effortless.
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Post by impearia on May 27, 2015 2:06:53 GMT
Oh I will say, I do not like scrapping Christmas...not at all. I rarely do it. And funny enough, back when I was scrapping for publications and I was so excited to get a call from Simple Scrapbooks asking me if I wanted a couple of assignments for an idea book they were working on. Of course I did! Guess what one of the assignments was...you got it, I had to scrap a Christmas page, lol.
I will even admit, I don't take many photos on Christmas...I know bad me. I am more of a moments scrapper than an events scrapper and I am okay with that.
If YOU are okay with not doing much of any journalling that should be okay too. Who says you HAVE to scrap any particular way? That is actually one of the things I love about this craft. If, however, you would like to journal and find it difficult or would like suggestions see my above post.
Sorry, I am quite passionate about this subject, obviously,
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Post by meridon on May 27, 2015 2:13:38 GMT
Meh. Why does every picture*have to have* a story? If I have a story I want to tell that goes with the photos, then I journal it. If not, then I don't and will just add Child's name, May 2015 or something similar. Ultimately, I scrap because it makes me happy to be creative/artistic/play around with pretty paper. If I have a really important story I want to tell, say about a relative who has passed, then I will write a draft on a separate sheet first. But if the LO was basically because I wanted to make something pretty, then it's no biggie to not include any journaling. Heresy to some, I know. But then, I also rarely include titles either, for the same reason.
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Post by marykate on May 27, 2015 2:32:35 GMT
Here is my idea of journaling ===> Yosemite National Park May 2015 A place name and date. That's all I do. This. For contemporary pages, this is most often what I do: place and date, and probably a title. Unless I have an amusing anecdote or whatever, but often I don't. Oh, I suppose I could rack my brain trying to come up with something. But for me, that just leads to unfinished layouts, because if something doesn't occur to me as I'm doing the page, whatever I come up with seems forced (banal, generic, formulaic, and so on). I do a lot of heritage pages, and for those layouts, I find the journaling is usually easy. I've done a lot of family history research, and I have loads of genealogical information and family stories to impart. But for contemporary layouts, I've given up on the idea that journaling is a "must." There's no One Right Way to do a scrapbook page; there are no rules and regulations; there's no board of accreditation, no board of quality control. One photo; or two; or ten. Text-heavy; or light on the text; or no text at all. A clever, catchy title; or a functional title ("At the Beach"); or no title at all. It's all good.
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Post by Kath on May 27, 2015 3:04:50 GMT
I really like journaling. But I don't really write about the pictures on the page half the time. Usually I'll just write something random, something maybe sparked from the picture or the layout or something that happened today or one time or a long time ago. Sometimes I'll write it's been a hard month and why if I've scrapbooked a picture of my house or a tree or something or why I liked that month or anything that comes to mind.
I find it helps to draw lines, lots of lines with little space in between of varying lengths and maybe different sizes of lines for paragraphs that are uneven, using a fine tipped pen, my favorite right now being a 03 American Crafts Precision Pen in black, and then to just start writing and see where it goes. Often the journaling in text is completely unconnected to the picture, but the feel of the picture matches the mood of the journaling.
And journaling with lots of little lines on a page really appeals to me aesthetically, all grouped together. It finishes off the page and gives it soul.
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Post by marykate on May 27, 2015 3:17:09 GMT
Meh. Why does every picture*have to have* a story? It doesn't! I mean, I hear you. The idea that every picture *has to have* a story is truly bizarre, now that (with iphones and digital cameras and handheld devices) we can snap photos all the live-long day, at any time of day or night, inside or outdoors, and even underwater! We can now document every last second, every last minute/hour/day/week/month of our lives. We can now lead our lives as photojournalistic performance artists, really. Which leads to a new set of imperatives, I guess (pictures, or it didn't happen), and to a new source of existential angst (do I even exist if I'm not being filmed?). Most of the photos I take are just snapshots of everyday life: there's no overarching narrative, no grand tale, no big story. Now, it may be that, years from now, from these everyday, workaday snapshots, a story (from distilled memory, and prompted by visual reminders) will emerge, in retrospect. But for now, I don't believe that every recorded moment of my everyday life has to be shaped into a "story." And sometimes, I just like the photo, you know? I don't have a "story," I just want to highlight the snapshot.
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Post by Chinagirl828 on May 27, 2015 10:04:25 GMT
1)As an exercise first, think about the story you want to tell, write it down and then do a layout. This upside down sort of approach can stir things up sometimes. This is kind of what I do for my travel albums. I like having the journaling written so I don't have to think about it while I'm building my page, I just know roughly how much space I need to leave for it. I also like that this approach gives me a chance to edit my writing to make it clearer or more succinct or lets me tell an aspect of the story I had forgotten in my first pass at writing.
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Post by mikklynn on May 27, 2015 14:29:20 GMT
You guys have given me a lot of inspiration - thank you!
One type of layout I always try to journal is my grandchildren doing something that is traditional in our family. My last one was my mom teaching my granddaughter how to make deviled eggs on New Year's Day. My extended family gathers on New Year's Day for our Christmas celebration and my mom always brings deviled eggs. I included the recipe on the pages I made for my granddaughter.
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Post by Deleted on May 27, 2015 14:45:40 GMT
ashley, I am surprised to see you say you struggle with journalling as I always enjoy the sweet poems on your pages. You make them look effortless. Awesome tips, impearia!! I can see why you've taught classes on this topic. No, journalling is far from effortless for me -- but at the same time I really value it and think it's important. I really appreciate your kind compliment!!
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Post by LavenderLayoutLady on May 27, 2015 16:53:56 GMT
Why do you have to do it?
I say, scrap only the things you want to scrap, and only do it the way you want to.
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Post by myboysnme on May 27, 2015 17:27:33 GMT
I have a problem with journaling because it seems I don't have the space I want to tell my story or I end up modifying what I really want to say so it will fit.
When I look back and read what I did write it seems OK, but I have become pretty good at squeezing a lot into a little space.
Back when I first started scrapping I tended to write a lot more than I do now. But after many many albums, I've also become fine with the date, place and person much of the time.
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Post by crimsoncat05 on May 27, 2015 17:49:04 GMT
And sometimes, I just like the photo, you know? I don't have a "story," I just want to highlight the snapshot. ^^^ this is me sometimes, too-- I make some pages just because I really like the photo, or I'm impressed with my own photography skills (or luck, lol!). These pages get interspersed with the other scrapbook layouts in my albums. I really like what MaryKate wrote about us becoming a 'photojournalistic' sort of society, although I don't like to think of myself becoming this way... sometimes it's too much to even think about the photos altogether. ETA: ashley, I always thought of your journaling as being effortless, too-- it's such an integral part of your pages, I figured it was easy for you. (this just goes to show that we never know about someone's process just from looking at the final product, I guess!) I also run into the problem of not having enough space on my page... sometimes I only leave a little bit of space, don't plan out what I want to say till after I've made the page, then realize I want to write a lot more than I have room for. (or more specifically, I start rambling...) I've gotten more relaxed about putting words on parts of the page that I wouldn't have before- the words are part of what makes the scrapbook page, so I don't 'mind' it as much as I used to (in terms of 'messing up my design' I mean). Or I'll add a 6x12 page in between for more journaling space, or a pocket behind the page to slide a tag into for writing space...
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Post by tiffanytwisted on May 27, 2015 19:33:19 GMT
I agree - not every page needs journaling and when it doesn't, I don't. But overall I do enjoy it and do a fair amount of it. And like lisacharlotte said, I journal like I'm telling the story. Pick up your pen & paper and then write down how you would tell me in person what's happening in the photos. That's how I journal - like I'm having a conversation. impearia, you had some great ideas! myboysnme, I have the same problem! If I know I'm going to have a lot to say, I will sometimes do my journaling block first and then make my photos fit around it. If I don't want to trim them that much, then I use the computer. I have the old CK program and it's my go-to for journaling blocks. I'm sure Word would work, too. Ask my scrappy friends - I am the journaling Nazi, lol.
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