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Post by monklady123 on May 30, 2015 16:52:34 GMT
I'm in Pennsylvania visiting my parents. I live in Virginia. I just have to say that PA is a bit odd. lol Or at least, Pittsburgh is. Not sure if different cities can have different rules.
State ABC store -- wine and hard liquor.
Bar, package store, or special-license-location -- beer, but with restrictions. Bar -- one 6-pack per trip. Package store -- not sure if there's a limit on how many cases you can buy. Special-license-location, for example the little cafe in a large Giant Eagle grocery store near my parents -- two 6-packs, or one case of 12 cans.
So my mom and I go out to do errands, including a few things in the grocery store, and then the plan was to buy some beer for my dad who can't get out on his own anymore. I left my mom in the cafe with some iced tea while I ran around this HUGE store, then came back for her and the beer. Because she was with me we were allowed to buy two cases, but it had to be two separate transactions.
1st transaction -- me buying one case, show my ID, use my mom's credit card (because she insists that I not pay for things). No problem.
2nd transaction -- mom buying one case, shows her ID (she's 88, and looks it! roflolol at being carded), uses her credit card. Nope, it won't take it because it's too soon after the first transaction. If I had gone out to the car, unloaded the groceries, then come back in it would have been long enough between transactions that I could have used my mom's card. oy. I just used my own card. (which my mom was annoyed about because now she feels like she owes me money, even though I don't WANT her to pay me, sigh).
Anyway, such a contrast to Virginia where I can buy wine and beer in my grocery store (no limit either), and 7-11, and CVS, and many other places. But, you can't just walk into a bar to buy a 6-pack. And there's no wine at an ABC store, only hard liquor. lol
Oh, and before others reply I'll mention that in my area we don't have drive-through liquor stores. lol
So what are your laws?
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Post by sillyrabbit on May 30, 2015 17:00:42 GMT
I live in Ky, and we don't have any state run stores. You can buy beer and wine in grocery stores, etc. but hard liquor can only be purchased at the liquor store. There's no limit on anything that I'm aware of. You cannot buy anything alcoholic in stores on Sunday. Grocery stores cover the beer, etc up with a tarp and liquor stores are closed. Ohhh...and we have dry counties where the sale of alcohol is illegal. I live in one. It's the dumbest thing ever.
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Post by hop2 on May 30, 2015 17:01:35 GMT
We can't buy it in as many places as in Virginia ( they had wine at the gas station in Va ) but I've never encountered a limit on the amount of sealed alcoholic products from a store ( liqour stores only ). Before a holiday weekend there are people buying shopping carts full of beer and such. Sometimes sales don't kick in until you buy 6 bottles of wine, volume discounts lol.
There are more rules about how much you can be served to consume in a bar or restaurant. But still it's more about times of day and age and they shouldnt serve drunk people more alcohol.
Oh and yes specific towns can have their own laws here, that's how we have some 'dry' towns.
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Post by leannec on May 30, 2015 17:08:11 GMT
I'm not in the USA but I thought I'd tell you what it is like here in Alberta  Beer, wine and liquor is only sold at private liquor stores but they exist in abundance  These are sold seven days a week with no limit on amount ... We are hoping to have beer and wine in the grocery stores someday (not sure if it will ever happen) but right now the major grocery stores sell beer, wine and spirits in separate stores on the same property ... |
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Post by Deleted on May 30, 2015 17:22:23 GMT
Beer and wine anywhere, hard stuff in separate liquor stores but they are attached to the grocery stores right next door. No limits. Only restriction is ok Sunday's you can't buy before 10am I believe. We don't drink so it's not an issue for us. Lol.
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Post by rainangel on May 30, 2015 17:23:10 GMT
In Norway we have two age restrictions; 18 years for beer and wine, and 20 for hard liquor. Grocery stores carry beer and certain premixed drinks or ciders with an alcoholpercentage the same as beer. To buy wine or liquor we have a place called (I shit you not) The Wine Monopoly. Government owned. There are two Pol's (short for Monopoly) near me, one is 10 minutes away, one is 30 minutes away. So they are not exactly on every street corner around here! If you are going to the Pol, you usually stock up a bit. Especially if you live far from town. There are strict laws about opening hours for buying alcohol. In a grocery store you can't buy beer after 8 p.m. Or 6 p. m. on Saturdays. And never on a public holiday, or the day before an election. Because if you buy alcohol the day before an election, you will be hammered when the elections are being held and you have to be sober enough to know who you are voting for. Or something along those lines... I'm pretty sure they made these laws like, 200 years ago  We have no limits on how much you can buy in one transaction. I helped my sister buy the alchol she was serving at her wedding. It would have taken us months to buy all of that alcohol if there were limitations! |
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Post by Deleted on May 30, 2015 17:36:49 GMT
I don't think Oklahoma has limit laws but I've never bought much at one time so I may just be uneducated.
Low point beer can be sold at stores so you'll find it in most grocery stores and convenience stores. But you can't purchase it between 2am and 7 am.
Wine, other beers, and hard liquor has to be bought at a liquor store (private, not stated owned but it has to be state licensed) Never on Sunday, holiday, and I think they are closed the day before elections. They can't sell anything refrigerated and can only be open between 10am and 9 pm.
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Post by mrst on May 30, 2015 17:38:05 GMT
They sell huge quantities of everything here in Spain. Supermarkets, garages, small bread shops, special shops. You can buy what you want just about anywhere as long as you look over 18. You very rarely see drunk locals, although tourists get very wobbly at times. I can remember actually laughing at a waitress in Atlanta airport that age id me . I'm 63! Then she was shocked that I only wanted 1 glass with a bottle of white wine!
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Post by scraphappyinjax on May 30, 2015 17:43:02 GMT
Florida seems to have similar laws as others have posted. Wine & beer sold in grocery stores and can be purchased on Sunday's. Hard liquor sold in liquor stores but, to be honest, I don't drink a lot of hard liquor so I'm not sure if those stores are open or closed on Sunday's. Will have to pay attention tomorrow.
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Post by Kerri W on May 30, 2015 17:51:00 GMT
I live in Ky, and we don't have any state run stores. You can buy beer and wine in grocery stores, etc. but hard liquor can only be purchased at the liquor store. There's no limit on anything that I'm aware of. You cannot buy anything alcoholic in stores on Sunday. Grocery stores cover the beer, etc up with a tarp and liquor stores are closed. Ohhh...and we have dry counties where the sale of alcohol is illegal. I live in one. It's the dumbest thing ever. Ditto. The only thing dumber is "moist" counties where you can buy alcohol by the glass in a restaurant whose sales are a certain percentage (maybe 70%) food purchases. |
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Post by Deleted on May 30, 2015 17:57:14 GMT
I live in central Kentucky and our town/county are newly 'wet' - we were 'moist', which apparently means can only buy beer/liquor by the drink in restaurants that have a certain percentage of their sales through diners buying only food (no idea how that one worked). Since we are now 'wet', we can purchase beer at a few grocery stores that bought a beer license (after noon on Sunday), beer AND liquor at liquor stores 7 days a week (after noon on Sunday) and drinks of all kinds in restaurants any time they are open. We pay an extra tax of 1.5% for the beer/liquor from stores because of the perceived need to increase police patrols for drunken driving incidents. I just moved back to Kentucky after living in Michigan where we could buy booze about anywhere, including gas stations, but even in Michigan (Oakland County) we had to wait until after noon. One of the really funny things about our area is Carrie Nation's (temperance advocate extraordinaire) former home is about 2 miles from my house.
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Post by maryland on May 30, 2015 18:11:44 GMT
I live north of Pgh. I have to agree with you (about it being odd  ). But my husband and I don't drink, so it doesn't really affect us. |
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Post by Skypea on May 30, 2015 19:57:09 GMT
there's too many to post here. but there are differences for a pkg'd store, bar/restaurant, just beer and wine vs hard liquor etc. They're state laws. local laws would be zoning for the type of bz which would include restrictions on how close to a school or church.
as for how much one can buy... didn't know there were restrictions - I don't usually buy it. There was a time or 2 mega yrs ago I bought a bottle of wine or sangria but that'd just be 1 bottle. I think those laws too would vary state to state. That'd make it tuff for someone having a party with booze. Been way too long since I've been to one of those but I don't remember anyone having a problem / limit on the amt they bought - 40 plus yrs ago.
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Post by peano on May 30, 2015 20:18:10 GMT
In CT beer only (and Mike's Hard Lime types of drinks) in grocery stores. Wine and hard liquor in liquor stores. Sunday sales began in 2012 between 10-5. Cutoff time in package stores M-Sa is 9pm. I've never heard of a limit on quantities. I've never heard of buying a six-pack in a bar. We don't have drive-thru liquor stores.
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Post by padresfan619 on May 30, 2015 20:47:06 GMT
There are hardly any liquor laws in California. I can buy beer, wine, and hard liquor at grocery stores and Target. The only restriction is that they stop selling alcohol between 2 and 6 am. Bars usually call last call around 1:30-1:45 am.
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Post by Fidget on May 30, 2015 21:06:38 GMT
I live in Michigan and as long as the store has the proper license, you can buy beer, wine and/or liquor. I can buy all 3 at my local Kroger when I grocery shop! Some corner stores are beer and wine only, while others have the needed liquor license to sell that as well. Not sure if you can purchase beer from a bar though, I don't think you can.
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Post by melanell on May 30, 2015 21:38:10 GMT
Oh, I have news for you, PA is greatly improved from how it was even just a decade or so ago!  You couldn't buy anything alcoholic in a regular grocery store at all. End of story. No exceptions. So even with the separate sections of the store, and separate check -outs and/or doors, and ID checks and limits, blah, blah, blah, it's still better than it used to be.  We have special laws about trying to buy alcohol online, too. It's craziness. It used to be just us & Utah, but now we've eased up just a bit and I don't know if Utah has or not. |
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Post by txdancermom on May 30, 2015 21:46:18 GMT
Texas here - depends on where you are whether you can buy beer and wine in the grocery or convenience store. our town recently voted that you could buy beer and wine in grocery or convenience stores, we used to have to go to an area where they could. Hard liquor - that is harder to get, you have to go to a liquor store, and there aren't a lot of those around (none in town where we live) and I don't think they can be open on Sunday.
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Post by myshelly on May 30, 2015 21:51:20 GMT
In our state liquor laws are local.
So in one city you can buy beer and wine in the grocery store or gas station, but in the next city (5 minutes away) you can't buy alcohol at all bc it's dry, and then in the next city (5 minutes in the other direction) you can only buy beer and wine at liquor stores.
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Post by kckckc on May 30, 2015 22:49:58 GMT
I live in Missouri - the liquor laws are pretty lax here. You can buy any and all alcohol (beer, wine, hard liquor) pretty much anywhere - grocery stores, Wal-Mart, gas stations. No limit on quantities.
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Post by ktdoesntscrap on May 30, 2015 23:11:57 GMT
I live in NC...State owned liquor stores sell the hard stuff... wine and beer is sold at grocery stores... The ABC (state stores) close early like at 7pm. and aren't open on Sunday. So you have to be prepared!!
I grew up in Kansas where the laws were really strict... private liquor stores could only sell beer, wine and spirits..they couldn't sell cigarettes, soda, ice.. nothing.Only low alcohol 3.2% by vol beer was sold in the grocery stores.
They had really crazy laws about buying booze in restaurants.. they could not sell it "by the glass" unless it was a private club.. so every restaurant had its own private club that you had to get a membership too!!
When I was in college we went to a conference at Penn State.. I remember the rules on how much you could purchase.. I thought it was because it was a college town!!
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Post by rickmer on May 30, 2015 23:47:25 GMT
i am in ontario and liquor and beer are sold at government run stores. liquor stores (LCBO - liquor control board of ontario) stores are very clean and upscale with vintages and i believe their staff are unionized.
beer store are more utilitarian and always smell like beer as they take empties back for beer store and liquor stores! they are also unionized.
we do have wine stores in malls and in separate businesses attached to grocery stores. drinking age is 19. other provinces vary between 18 or 19.
beer, wine and liquor cannot be purchased at grocery stores, department stores, drug stores or convenience stores.
it can be sold 7 days a week, but 20 years ago we had no sunday shopping. for anything.
it would be rare for an 80 some-odd year old person to be carded here!!! i mean, unless she looked AWESOME!
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Post by alittleintrepid on May 30, 2015 23:57:18 GMT
I'm in Ontario like rickmer and agree with what she said. I just wanted to add that there isn't a limit when you're buying for your own use but I've had them ask me if I was buying wine for an event when I bought two boxes full of wine bottles. If I had said yes, they would have made me get an event license. Better to tell them I'm an alcoholic. |
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Post by lesley on May 31, 2015 1:10:36 GMT
I'm in Scotland and you can buy alcohol in supermarkets, corner shops, and off-licences (shops that only sell alcohol.) There is no distinction between wine, beer or spirits, the same licence covers anything alcoholic. However, you can only buy between 10am and 10pm. The thought of there being limits on the amount you can buy is hilarious - and would probably cause riots here!
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Post by Deleted on May 31, 2015 1:20:10 GMT
I don't drink, but I do know Utah's liquor laws are probably the most messed up in the U.S. I do know the alcoholic content of beer has to be lower than what is sold in other states. abc.utah.gov/laws/law_residents.htmlThen there's the "Zion curtain" in bars. en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Zion_curtainsIf I remember right you can't buy any alcohol on Sunday and liquor stores are closed. |
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Post by alittleintrepid on May 31, 2015 1:52:55 GMT
@coilstrand , that Zion curtain stuff is really interesting. TFS.
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Post by lodgelady on May 31, 2015 2:05:55 GMT
Yes, Pennsylvania is all kinds of fun. I have guests check in at the B&B and they ask where to buy alcohol. I always start with..."sure, what type of alcohol were you interested in". I think sometimes they think I'm judging them but I really just need to know which direction to send them in! The BEST part is that the State Store (where you can buy wine and liquor) is not near the Beverage store (where you can buy limited quantities of beer).
I think the thing that always gets me though is that we have several smallish wineries in the area. They can not sell their wine at the State Store, so you have to go the the actual winery to purchase local wines.
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Post by Judy26 on May 31, 2015 2:21:15 GMT
I'm north of Pittsburgh also and PA laws are all kinds of messed up. It is politically driven. Privatizing the sale of wine and alcohol would be great for private business owners. But it would take $ and control away from politicians. In most areas you can not even buy beer in a grocery store. Prices are considerably higher here and any time we are in New York or Ohio we stock up on local micro brews and wines as they are so much cheaper than what we can get locally.
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Post by mystuffandnat on May 31, 2015 2:24:32 GMT
- but you can't ship it...Or if you are out of state drinking some of the best wine you have ever tasted in your life you can't have it sent home to you.
Yes here in the Keystone state we march to a different drummer...did you know if you take a bottle of whatever home from the liquor store and break it you can return the parts for a free new bottle?!?!?! And they wonder why the system is in trouble....
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Post by breetheflea on May 31, 2015 3:00:33 GMT
In Washington you can now buy beer, wine and liquor at the grocery store 24 hours a day. Previously you could only buy beer and wine, and liquor was only at state run liquor stores.
Unfortunately part of the deal to change the law was taxing the heck out of it, so the tax is huge (50%+). Also it is really annoying to have to have someone come unlock the liquor display at the grocery store (not all of them fortunately) especially when you are buying a bunch of stuff.
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). But my husband and I don't drink, so it doesn't really affect us.
