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Post by epeanymous on May 31, 2015 2:30:54 GMT
We are Jewish and a cousin already used the real name as a middle name. There are superstitions against using names of living relatives (we don't like the actual name, so it isn't a hardship anyway). Is there a rule about more than 1 family using a deceased persons name? I know you don't care about using the actual name, but how often are actual middle names used except for when the kid is in trouble? My son and two of my nephews have the same middle name. Funny you should ask. Two cousins have used the grandmother's name as a middle name for their kids, one of whom was born before the grandmother died, which is a big superstitious no-no (Angel of Death may get confused and take the baby when it is the older relative's time to die). Since she is deceased and the name we are considering isn't the same as the one they used, we think it is fine, and our rabbi basically takes the "it is a superstition in the first place and to the extent you are following it it isn't the same name and there shouldn't be confusion," but it is in the back of my mind.
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Post by epeanymous on May 31, 2015 2:34:07 GMT
Louisa Clementine is a pretty combination so is Cecelia Louise Charlotte was our alternate name for Annabelle (but it's probably going to skyrocket in popularity with the new princess). We also considered Dorothy and Norah. I've always liked Dorcus as well but DH permanently vetoed that one I think Charlotte is so pretty, and it was on my list for my twelve-year-old when we were naming her. A cousin has now used it, and it is now top ten in popularity even without the princess (I don't mind a name that is not super uncommon -- Hannah, suggested upthread, is one I always have loved -- but I am trying to avoid anything where my kid is Charlotte S. I have a child whose name was uncommon when we picked it but that turns out to be really, really regionally popular where I live now, and one year there were so many in my child's class that they had to go by more than one letter of the last name :/).
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Post by epeanymous on May 31, 2015 2:36:53 GMT
If you're being literary, how about Bronte, Imogen or Harper? I love Luisa, like Cecilia, and while Clementine is okay, I wouldn't be able to stop singing that song. I also don't like Clem or Clemmie as a shortened version. The nickname issue is part of my hesitation. I have two kids with three-syllable names who don't go by nicknames, but you can't really control that, and there isn't an obvious nice one for Clementine. A cousin just used Harper in the fall. A good friend used Imogen, which I do love, but it is uncommon enough that while I don't think you can call dibs on a name, it would be weird to use. My one existing daughter has a fairly frilly name, so I think Bronte is a little unisex for my set, even though I like the association.
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Post by caro on May 31, 2015 2:40:58 GMT
There was 200 kids in my preschool this year. No one was named Clementine so you would be unique. Did you have a Louisa or a Cecilia?
Of your list, Cecilia is my favorite, but there's also the song about Cecilia.
No Louisa but there was a Cecillia called Cece.
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Post by jamielynn on May 31, 2015 2:44:26 GMT
Clementine is adorable but I wonder if kids being kids would tease about the fruit? That's the first thing that comes to my mind.
I also think of the, "oh my darlin," song next not a name.
That said I have no solid suggestions either. I like names on the prior years over 50 minimum or over 100 top list (less common).
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Post by alittleintrepid on May 31, 2015 2:44:53 GMT
I think Cecelia is a darling name. I like the suggestion of nick naming her CeeCee but am not stuck on Clementine because everyone will sing the song to her, even if it's not what you intended. How about Cecelia Corinne? Or Cecelia Louise?
Other names that I like of that vintage.... Maeve, Mae, Amelia, Evelyn, Anastasia.
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Post by melanell on May 31, 2015 3:00:31 GMT
I am partial to the names Marjorie, Elizabeth and Alice (which only has a single syllable so I guess that wouldn't work.) But also like Clementine. It makes me smile. Alice is 2 syllables, so you're still good. I like all 3 of the names you're considering, OP. Another vintage name I've been liking lately is Miriam.
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Post by mlynn on May 31, 2015 3:00:42 GMT
Cecily Camille Collette Cosette
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Post by anxiousmom on May 31, 2015 3:02:31 GMT
I am partial to the names Marjorie, Elizabeth and Alice (which only has a single syllable so I guess that wouldn't work.) But also like Clementine. It makes me smile. Alice is 2 syllables, so you're still good. I like all 3 of the names you're considering, OP. Another vintage name I've been liking lately is Miriam. Good heavens, you are right! I guess I wasn't even paying attention to myself.
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Post by hollymolly on May 31, 2015 3:17:31 GMT
I have recently become quite fond of Louisa. How about Louisa Cecilia Lastname? It has a very pretty flow. Unless your last name ends with an A, that might be too much.
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Post by MaryMary on May 31, 2015 3:21:21 GMT
Clementine is my favorite of your options. I think it is adorable and classic and uncommon.
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Post by kate on May 31, 2015 3:30:39 GMT
Ohhh, I LOVE Miriam! Of the 300 kids at my school, there is one Cecelia, one (foreign-born) Luiza and no Clementines. There some other names that are real doozies, but I won't judge too harshly, since none of my own children's names are likely to hit the top 100.
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Post by Really Red on May 31, 2015 3:33:50 GMT
I love Imogene and Eloise (which is a little like Louisa)
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Post by crazy4scraps on May 31, 2015 3:35:37 GMT
Most of the classic names I like are/were becoming more popular again. Emma, Olivia, Sophia, Hannah would have been on my list but DH didn't like any of them. One of DH's cousins named their kid Emmalina the year before we had DD. DH was bent on choosing Isabella (or any of its variations) but that was at the height of the Twilight series madness and I really was NOT going there. We (well, *I*) didn't want to use any name that had been previously used by any family member, friend or pet and I didn't want any in the top 15. I have a very common name for my generation and always had 2-3 other girls with my name in every class growing up and I hated that. We ended up picking something classic but not top 20, only to have the next door neighbors at the lake cabin name their new puppy OUR KID'S FIRST NAME less than three months later... Ugh. The name just "popped into their heads" somehow and they totally forgot we had just named our kid that.
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Post by Deleted on May 31, 2015 4:37:31 GMT
My son said he wants to name a daughter Nora Robert. Yes after the author.
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Post by scorpeao on May 31, 2015 4:52:57 GMT
I'm partial to the name Naomi. It's a timeless name, and Hebrew.
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Post by bc2ca on May 31, 2015 5:17:22 GMT
I love Clementine and like Cecilia and Louisa.
A few other ideas are Rosalind, Portia, Phoebe or Scarlett. Or Bathsheba.
FTR, neither of my kids got the "darling Clementine" reference so I think that is a generation thing. DS did start singing Simon & Garfunkel's Cecilia though when I asked what they thought of that name. DD is named after her grandmother and many bugged us about a nickname for her three syllable name, but we wanted to use the full name and always have. Her cousin has the same name (the Greeks do that) and goes by an unrelated nickname.
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Post by my3freaks on May 31, 2015 5:27:07 GMT
Of the 3 you listed, I like Louisa the best. I do not care for Clementine, and I try to think of all ways kids will shorten it, rhyme it or whatever to be "funny", and I thought of a couple that would be make it a deal breaker to me. Cecilia is pretty too.
What about Emerson? I also love Sophia, Olivia, Danielle, Bethany, Kennedy, Elizabeth, Catherine, Caroline, Evelyn & Vivian.
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Post by alexa11 on May 31, 2015 6:18:53 GMT
I'm not a fan of Clementine, but I LOVE Louisa--if DS had been a girl it was a possibility. Cecilia is pretty too. The names Willa and Delilah are ones that may fit your requirements. Don't care for Clementine at all. Love Willa- tried my best to get my oldest to name my 2nd DGD that. Then I tried with my youngest - no go...
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Post by VanC on May 31, 2015 6:20:21 GMT
If you're being literary, how about Bronte, Imogen or Harper? I love Luisa, like Cecilia, and while Clementine is okay, I wouldn't be able to stop singing that song. I also don't like Clem or Clemmie as a shortened version. One of my dear friends in the neighbourhood is expecting her first and has the name Clementine at the top of her list along with the name Lavender in case she has her Daddy's unusual eye colour. Her nickname for the baby bump is Tiney pronounced like tiny so that's what her Auntie is already calling her on the shower invites for next week.
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Post by lucyg on May 31, 2015 6:33:26 GMT
I agree with almost everyone else. Love Louisa and Cecilia. Clementine not so much, mostly because I think people will tease her, both children and adults. Even though I am Jewish, too, I named my kids after Plantagenets. Richard and Margaret. So I vote for Margaret. I also like Victoria, Katherine, Caroline, Elizabeth, and Sophia. Already forgot what's on the forbidden list. ha ha
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Post by anniebygaslight on May 31, 2015 6:33:43 GMT
Anything but Cecilia.
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Post by jennyap on May 31, 2015 7:08:15 GMT
Louisa is my favourite of your current choices.
Friends of mine recently had a baby girl they named Clara, which I adore as a name, and might work for you (incidentally, they once had a cat called Clementine!)
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Post by Deleted on May 31, 2015 7:53:28 GMT
Not margaret , nobody pronounces it right. EVER
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Post by heartcat on May 31, 2015 8:43:33 GMT
I love the name Cecilia. Louisa is nice. Not big on Clementine.
Another girl name that I love is Cadence. I think that it is pretty and feminine.
One of my all-time favourite girl names is Shayna.
Have fun naming your new daughter! And wishing all the best for a happy and healthy remainder of your pregnancy and for delivery for you and baby.
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Post by mom2rnb on May 31, 2015 9:26:35 GMT
Im 36 and i knew a girl named Clementina in high school. I think i prefer that to clementine. Next i would vote for Cecilia.
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Post by lucyg on May 31, 2015 10:07:23 GMT
Oh, or Camille. That was my great-grandmother's name, and her father was kind of French, so it's pronounced ca-mill, not ca-meel the way most Americans say it. Lovely name. Not margaret , nobody pronounces it right. EVER I don't even know what you're talking about. ETA my Margaret is called Meggie or Meg most of the time. Are you a Margaret, too? How do you pronounce it and how do people always mispronounce it?
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Post by Deleted on May 31, 2015 13:45:57 GMT
Is there a rule about more than 1 family using a deceased persons name? I know you don't care about using the actual name, but how often are actual middle names used except for when the kid is in trouble? My son and two of my nephews have the same middle name. Funny you should ask. Two cousins have used the grandmother's name as a middle name for their kids, one of whom was born before the grandmother died, which is a big superstitious no-no (Angel of Death may get confused and take the baby when it is the older relative's time to die). Since she is deceased and the name we are considering isn't the same as the one they used, we think it is fine, and our rabbi basically takes the "it is a superstition in the first place and to the extent you are following it it isn't the same name and there shouldn't be confusion," but it is in the back of my mind. I didn't realize it was the Angel of Death that was the suspicion. I always liked that Jewish tradition and actually didn't name my kids after living relatives either. It was more, "What if something comes out about this relative that isn't good and they are stuck with a name that brings bad feelings."
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Post by Deleted on May 31, 2015 15:44:03 GMT
Oh, or Camille. That was my great-grandmother's name, and her father was kind of French, so it's pronounced ca-mill, not ca-meel the way most Americans say it. Lovely name. Not margaret , nobody pronounces it right. EVER I don't even know what you're talking about. ETA my Margaret is called Meggie or Meg most of the time. Are you a Margaret, too? How do you pronounce it and how do people always mispronounce it? [br It is mar/ga/ret not margret. I have found that only French and Spanish pronounce it right.
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Post by Peal on May 31, 2015 17:17:44 GMT
Of the three I like Cecilia, but I prefer Celia as a version.
If I had ever had a girl, she would have been Evelyn Julianna.
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