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Post by pjaye on Jun 26, 2015 13:25:40 GMT
I wish her well and that the baby is happy & healthy. Always shocked, but never surprised by comments tearing down other woman for their choices (especially by the most liberal and enlightened voices on this board). The Theresa Collins thread a recent example. Is it in our DNA or something? Carry on. Firstly ironic that some people are celebrating her *choice*, yes, if her mother was running your country she'd be doing her best to take that choice away from all women.
Secondly, it's not about her being single, not about her being pregnant and not about her choice to keep the baby. It's purely and simply about her being a hypocrite, preaching to others not to have sex before marriage and then doing exactly what she is telling others NOT to do...repeatedly. Let's assume it's not even about sex and babies...what if she was running quit smoking courses that you paid for, and telling everyone how bad smoking is and giving you all the tips and tricks to stop and preaching about how easy it is and that you can and should stop, and then at the end of the day, you leave the course and turn the corner and see her standing there puffing away on a cigarette? How is that going to make you fell about the course you just paid for and everything she just said?
That's what people are bagging her for.
Hey great idea though! Teresa Collins has found her 'soul mate' at least 3 times that we know about, and seeing as Bristol can only hook up with losers who run off when she's pregnant, if we introduce them...maybe Teresa can spare one of her GIANT men for Bristol? She could have her hooked up with an AMAZING man that she can have an INSTANT, FAIRTYTALE connection with...we could have her married off before she's even showing.
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Post by Regina Phalange on Jun 26, 2015 13:26:45 GMT
She's old enough now to know how to avoid this if she really wanted to. I think there are plenty of women out there who have found that despite their best attempts they still were not always able to avoid a surprise pregnancy.  But how many of those women make upwards of $250K a year to preach abstinence only? Abstinence. As in, NOT having sex at ALL to prevent pregnancy. |
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Post by Regina Phalange on Jun 26, 2015 13:30:01 GMT
One accidental pregnancy - youthful mistake. Two accidental pregnancies, I start to question the intelligence of the woman. Coupled with her accepting money to preach at other young girls about abstinence and/or birth control, well, I think she truly sucks as a role model. No Birth Control. Abstinence Only. As in, NO sex. Which she clearly doesn't understand. |
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Post by Dalai Mama on Jun 26, 2015 13:32:05 GMT
I'm not overly familiar with her situation because, well, I don't really care but I would have thought that she would know about the wonders of birth control by now.
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Post by melanell on Jun 26, 2015 13:40:56 GMT
I think there are plenty of women out there who have found that despite their best attempts they still were not always able to avoid a surprise pregnancy. But how many of those women make upwards of $250K a year to preach abstinence only? Abstinence. As in, NOT having sex at ALL to prevent pregnancy. Oh, that's perfectly true, but it was for all of the regular women out there who have been surprised or even shocked, and perhaps not immediately happy to learn they were pregnant, that I wanted to say something. I realize that the statement was made in regards to Bristol, but it sounded like one of those things that could be unintentional hurtful to other women as well, which is why I pointed out that, short of abstinence, any of us, at any age, can find that knowing how to prevent a pregnancy isn't always enough to actually prevent one. |
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Post by Dalai Mama on Jun 26, 2015 13:41:42 GMT
I wish her well and that the baby is happy & healthy. Always shocked, but never surprised by comments tearing down other woman for their choices (especially by the most liberal and enlightened voices on this board). The Theresa Collins thread a recent example. Is it in our DNA or something? Carry on. Which choice are we talking about here? Because, reading her post, it doesn't sound like getting pregnant is something that she chose. And, yes, I recognise that sometimes women get pregnant unintentionally (apparently twice) but when the poster child of abstinence-only sex education does it, people are naturally going to react. |
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Post by freebird on Jun 26, 2015 13:45:58 GMT
I'm sure it's hard enough to be a single unwed mom in this world, but a thousand times worse in the spotlight. Clearly she's super fertile. I feel bad for her. Are you serious? First time, I can give her a pass. This time? WTH. She chose to remain in the spotlight following her mom's campaign. She deserves to be called out for being a hypocrite. Yeah I'm serious. Slow your roll. Where did I say I was giving her a pass? I said: -Being a single unwed mom in the world is hard, probably going to be harder for her. -She's fertile -I feel bad for her situation.
Where in there did I say I gave her a pass?
I just chose to not kick her while she's down. She's obviously unhappy about her situation, me calling her names is not going to be helpful to her in any way.
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Post by Regina Phalange on Jun 26, 2015 13:54:28 GMT
I googled to see how old she was now (24 in case anyone else wants to know). I don't follow anything about the Palin's but when her mother was actively campaigning and she hit my radar, I despised everything she said and stood for. Horrible woman. However at the time I did think it was unfair to hold her children to her beliefs, just because her parents banged on about their ridiculous ideas doesn't mean her daughter also believed them. So she had sex and got pregnant, at the time I thought a combination of "poor girl" in terms of the media scrutiny but also "no big deal"...happened to lots of others. So just now when I googled...and I have no idea if this is 100% true or not, it said that Bristol gets paid $250,000 a pop to give talks, which includes talking about abstinence. So if that's true, then I do think she's a total hypocrite. I see she is still going on about strong "Christian" beliefs etc, so I don't think it's very Christian (or very ethical) to take money, give talks and advise people on how to live their lives...and then do the exact opposite herself. I see she also has a public blog, where she comments about what other people in the news and media say and do. Yeah it takes some balls (and we now know she's been familiar with quite a few of those in her time) to have a blog and publically comment on what others are doing, but then ask for privacy and tell people not to comment about her own fuck-ups. You can't have it both ways honey. If she had gone away somewhere and was quietly living her own life I'd be on the "leave her alone" side, BUT she still out there preaching about not having sex, telling other people how to act and what to do, well then she has to suck it up when the attention comes her way as a result of her own actions. Not a "pop" but the Candies foundation paid her almost $250k last year for her abstinence only speeches. I thought I read somewhere it was around $15k a speech. That could be speculation. |
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Post by Deleted on Jun 26, 2015 14:00:09 GMT
My initial reaction to this thread was "yes...so?"
I was also not aware that the Palin's still held any national attention or continued to travel across the country preaching their beliefs. So I'm not really getting the "oh they're all hypocrites vibe either.
Sarah was news two national elections ago. Perhaps she's still relevant out there on the fringe, but honestly, I'm kind of surprised that so many people still have her so "fresh" in their minds. Clearly she works a lot of you guys up and I really cannot figure out why. Again...two elections ago.
With that said, I think Bristol's first words in regards to her pregnancy are disturbing because what's out there on the internet is out there forever...and the thought of her baby finding out what Bristol wrote seems pretty hurtful. She's really put herself out there lately. Especially with her blog posts. It's made the news numerous times. Two elections ago or not Bristol has been actively speaking out against things I care about. And rudely so. I guess because I don't read her blogs...and even though I watch quite a bit of news, I haven't seen her "out there lately". I guess I'm not reading/watching the same stuff the rest of you are. (I routinely watch Fox News, NBC network news, I read HuffPo, CNN dot com and Yahoo news...so I think I have a pretty nice "blend" of views to absorb and process) What news sources are you guys watching/reading that still feature Bristol Palin and her views? Just curious to know if I need to expand even more...or if you guys are more on the "tabloid'y" left news "sites" (and yes...there are plenty of right leaning tabloid'y sites too...plenty to go around) |
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Post by Regina Phalange on Jun 26, 2015 14:00:54 GMT
I wish her well and that the baby is happy & healthy. Always shocked, but never surprised by comments tearing down other woman for their choices (especially by the most liberal and enlightened voices on this board). The Theresa Collins thread a recent example. Is it in our DNA or something? Carry on. Seriously? Can't you see that no one is tearing her down for her choice but for the utter HYPOCRISY of her choice? To get paid a quarter of a million dollars to preach abstinence only to kids, to go on a public blog and ridicule others for THEIR choices, and then to blog about your own utter hypocrisy and expect everyone to shut up about it and give you privacy? When have the Palins EVER wanted privacy?
Oh, and about what she said about the pregnancy? You can be shocked and disappointed all over, but the RIGHT thing to do would have been to say you were pregnant and happy about the upcoming baby - even if it wasn't necessarily the truth right now.
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Post by Deleted on Jun 26, 2015 14:01:29 GMT
I wish her well and that the baby is happy & healthy. Always shocked, but never surprised by comments tearing down other woman for their choices (especially by the most liberal and enlightened voices on this board). The Theresa Collins thread a recent example. Is it in our DNA or something? Carry on. Firstly ironic that some people are celebrating her *choice*, yes, if her mother was running your country she'd be doing her best to take that choice away from all women.
Secondly, it's not about her being single, not about her being pregnant and not about her choice to keep the baby. It's purely and simply about her being a hypocrite, preaching to others not to have sex before marriage and then doing exactly what she is telling others NOT to do...repeatedly. Let's assume it's not even about sex and babies...what if she was running quit smoking courses that you paid for, and telling everyone how bad smoking is and giving you all the tips and tricks to stop and preaching about how easy it is and that you can and should stop, and then at the end of the day, you leave the course and turn the corner and see her standing there puffing away on a cigarette? How is that going to make you fell about the course you just paid for and everything she just said?
That's what people are bagging her for.
Hey great idea though! Teresa Collins has found her 'soul mate' at least 3 times that we know about, and seeing as Bristol can only hook up with losers who run off when she's pregnant, if we introduce them...maybe Teresa can spare one of her GIANT men for Bristol? She could have her hooked up with an AMAZING man that she can have an INSTANT, FAIRTYTALE connection with...we could have her married off before she's even showing.
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Post by Deleted on Jun 26, 2015 14:03:13 GMT
I wish her well and that the baby is happy & healthy. Always shocked, but never surprised by comments tearing down other woman for their choices (especially by the most liberal and enlightened voices on this board). The Theresa Collins thread a recent example. Is it in our DNA or something? Carry on. Seriously? Can't you see that no one is tearing her down for her choice but for the utter HYPOCRISY of her choice? To get paid a quarter of a million dollars to preach abstinence only to kids, to go on a public blog and ridicule others for THEIR choices, and then to blog about your own utter hypocrisy and expect everyone to shut up about it and give you privacy? When have the Palins EVER wanted privacy?
Oh, and about what she said about the pregnancy? You can be shocked and disappointed all over, but the RIGHT thing to do would have been to say you were pregnant and happy about the upcoming baby - even if it wasn't necessarily the truth right now.
Exactly. I am NOT tearing her down for her pregnancy. But for her outrageous posts towards OTHERS while she is obviously doing the same thing she bashes them for. She's a hypocritical twit. |
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Post by grinningcat on Jun 26, 2015 14:08:09 GMT
How Judge Mental of some of you. ♪♫♪♫ She could have swept it from her life but she wouldn't do it. ♪♫♪♫♪ And THAT'S good Christianity I really don't care anything one way or the other about Bristol Palin but in a country where you do have a choice it appears she sucked it up and made the right one. ♪♫♪♫ And I'm keepin' my babeh... ♪♫♪♫♪ She is making the right choice for HER. That cannot be considered the right choice for everyone. It sure as hell wouldn't be the right choice for me at this juncture, so I would make a different choice. Obviously she thinks it's right for her, so she made that choice. Doesn't make it right or wrong, it makes it her choice. And that's why choice is important. Her body, her life, her choice. My body, my life, my choice. Your body, your life, your choice. The choices made may or may not be the same, but there are no wrong choices. Each choice made is the right choice for the person making it. You are wrong to say that there is only one right choice. |
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Post by Deleted on Jun 26, 2015 14:09:14 GMT
She's really put herself out there lately. Especially with her blog posts. It's made the news numerous times. Two elections ago or not Bristol has been actively speaking out against things I care about. And rudely so. I guess because I don't read her blogs...and even though I watch quite a bit of news, I haven't seen her "out there lately". I guess I'm not reading/watching the same stuff the rest of you are. (I routinely watch Fox News, NBC network news, I read HuffPo, CNN dot com and Yahoo news...so I think I have a pretty nice "blend" of views to absorb and process) What news sources are you guys watching/reading that still feature Bristol Palin and her views? Just curious to know if I need to expand even more...or if you guys are more on the "tabloid'y" left news "sites" (and yes...there are plenty of right leaning tabloid'y sites too...plenty to go around) Well she's been talked/written about on HuffPo, E! Online, ABC news and even Fox (and othters) for her scathing posts about Caitlyn Jenner, Miley Cyrus, etc. |
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Post by knit.pea on Jun 26, 2015 14:16:42 GMT
I just don't understand the mindset of very vocally proclaiming
what you (general you) "believe" in, doing the exact opposite numerous
times, and "believing" you will be forgiven each and every time regardless.
It's like the blanket of "faith" is used even when you don't make an effort
to resist "sin".
After hearing it time and time again, it sounds ridiculous.
(Hypothetically) Fine, we are all "sinners". And sinning covers a lot
(stealing, coveting, lying, etc.).
But where does personal responsibility and some good judgement come in?
It's like those go out the window because they are *sure* they will be forgiven
if they ask.
It all just baffles me.
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Post by pjaye on Jun 26, 2015 14:20:55 GMT
Repeating that twaddle doesn't give any more credence the second or third time around. It's still an irrelevant bullshit sentence.
Bristol NEVER ran for president, now or any time in the past.
She wasn't pregnant with her second baby TWO campaigns ago when her MOTHER ran, she is unwed & pregnant NOW - Bristol still has a blog NOW that she has been RECENTLY writing on and making very public comments about the choices of others that she doesn't agree with. She is STILL going on about abstinence.
Those things are not in the past, they are in the here and now and that is what people are commenting on.
So stop with that inane copying & pasting of one sentence, because you are coming across as a dumbass who isn't talking about the same thing that everyone else is.
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Post by MorellisCupcake on Jun 26, 2015 14:33:10 GMT
how would you define that? You. It's you, Skypea. Z*G.. I do appreciate sarcasm. That made me laugh. I agree totally with everyone who said the problem is hypocrisy. Everything else, fine, go live your life. |
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Post by back to *pea*ality on Jun 26, 2015 14:38:08 GMT
I wish her well and that the baby is happy & healthy. Always shocked, but never surprised by comments tearing down other woman for their choices (especially by the most liberal and enlightened voices on this board). The Theresa Collins thread a recent example. Is it in our DNA or something? Carry on. Seriously? Can't you see that no one is tearing her down for her choice but for the utter HYPOCRISY of her choice? To get paid a quarter of a million dollars to preach abstinence only to kids, to go on a public blog and ridicule others for THEIR choices, and then to blog about your own utter hypocrisy and expect everyone to shut up about it and give you privacy? When have the Palins EVER wanted privacy?
Oh, and about what she said about the pregnancy? You can be shocked and disappointed all over, but the RIGHT thing to do would have been to say you were pregnant and happy about the upcoming baby - even if it wasn't necessarily the truth right now.
I am not a fan of Sarah Palin, the family seems to find themselves in the news, it appears they bring the attention and criticism to themselves. I have no idea what Bristol Palin's values are nor do I particularly care. But it seems like many here are bothered by them. There was at least one comment saying she should have an abortion, my reference to choice was hers to have this baby. For that I wish her well. No everyone is capable of living a perfect life. |
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Post by nurseypants on Jun 26, 2015 14:49:32 GMT
Seriously? Can't you see that no one is tearing her down for her choice but for the utter HYPOCRISY of her choice? To get paid a quarter of a million dollars to preach abstinence only to kids, to go on a public blog and ridicule others for THEIR choices, and then to blog about your own utter hypocrisy and expect everyone to shut up about it and give you privacy? When have the Palins EVER wanted privacy?
Oh, and about what she said about the pregnancy? You can be shocked and disappointed all over, but the RIGHT thing to do would have been to say you were pregnant and happy about the upcoming baby - even if it wasn't necessarily the truth right now.
I am not a fan of Sarah Palin, the family seems to find themselves in the news, it appears they bring the attention and criticism to themselves. I have no idea what Bristol Palin's values are nor do I particularly care. But it seems like many here are bothered by them. There was at least one comment saying she should have an abortion, my reference to choice was hers to have this baby. For that I wish her well. No everyone is capable of living a perfect life. Of course everyone is not capable of living the perfect life. But everyone is capable of practicing abstinence WHEN THEY PREACH IT!!! |
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Post by back to *pea*ality on Jun 26, 2015 15:05:15 GMT
I am not a fan of Sarah Palin, the family seems to find themselves in the news, it appears they bring the attention and criticism to themselves. I have no idea what Bristol Palin's values are nor do I particularly care. But it seems like many here are bothered by them. There was at least one comment saying she should have an abortion, my reference to choice was hers to have this baby. For that I wish her well. No everyone is capable of living a perfect life. Of course everyone is not capable of living the perfect life. But everyone is capable of practicing abstinence WHEN THEY PREACH IT!!! Clearly not, at least in this case. I assume Bristol Palin was brought up in a home where she was taught that sex before marriage was not acceptable, wrong, whatever. I was raised that way too. I am sure a lot of people were. I had sex, used protection/birth control before marriage because I did not adopt my parents belief system on that. I guess she is learning that what she thought and what reality is are two different things. If I could tell my 24 year old self a few things perhaps I would have done some things differently too. |
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Post by moveablefeast on Jun 26, 2015 15:18:09 GMT
I wish her well and that the baby is happy & healthy. Always shocked, but never surprised by comments tearing down other woman for their choices (especially by the most liberal and enlightened voices on this board). The Theresa Collins thread a recent example. Is it in our DNA or something? Carry on. I wasn't willing to judge TC for remarrying quickly after her husband's lengthy illness and death. I know that some people remarry quickly under such circumstances and find nothing morally objectionable in that. I felt it unfair that some people would speculate that she was unfaithful to her husband because there was no evidence to that end. I am also not judging BP for her pregnancy - but she is no longer a reliable spokesperson for abstinence. I think the key difference for me is one of the two made a large paycheck trying to tell folks how to live but doesn't live it herself. Like I said, I don't think she's a bad person. I just no longer find her message reliable. I no longer think she has any collateral with which to tell the rest of us how to live. I don't think she has any standing anymore to moralize about things when she doesn't live up to her own publicly proclaimed (and well compensated) standards. It's hypocrisy now. |
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Post by nurseypants on Jun 26, 2015 15:24:10 GMT
Of course everyone is not capable of living the perfect life. But everyone is capable of practicing abstinence WHEN THEY PREACH IT!!! Clearly not, at least in this case. I assume Bristol Palin was brought up in a home where she was taught that sex before marriage was not acceptable, wrong, whatever. I was raised that way too. I am sure a lot of people were. I had sex, used protection/birth control before marriage because I did not adopt my parents belief system on that. I guess she is learning that what she thought and what reality is are two different things. If I could tell my 24 year old self a few things perhaps I would have done some things differently too. I feel like you are still missing the point. |
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Post by Deleted on Jun 26, 2015 15:28:52 GMT
and that child and her older one can search her name and read all of the nasty comments made on here about her and her family - and theirs. Ditto in regards to the President's daughters too......only the nasty comments made about them aren't about their lifestyle choices.
Had her mother and Bristol not tried to be the beacons of "abstinence only" education and pimp themselves out for lectures on the subject, I don't think anyone would give a crap whether or not she has another unplanned pregnancy.
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Post by back to *pea*ality on Jun 26, 2015 15:38:44 GMT
Clearly not, at least in this case. I assume Bristol Palin was brought up in a home where she was taught that sex before marriage was not acceptable, wrong, whatever. I was raised that way too. I am sure a lot of people were. I had sex, used protection/birth control before marriage because I did not adopt my parents belief system on that. I guess she is learning that what she thought and what reality is are two different things. If I could tell my 24 year old self a few things perhaps I would have done some things differently too. I feel like you are still missing the point. What point is that? She chose a belief system that she was indoctrinated into by her family. Pretty common thing. She preached to others about a standard of that belief system she could not attain in her own life. That was her mistake. Does it give others license to condemn her? Most here have opined, yes. Then go for it. |
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Post by rebelyelle on Jun 26, 2015 15:42:49 GMT
I feel like you are still missing the point. What point is that? She chose a belief system that she was indoctrinated into by her family. Pretty common thing. She preached to others about a standard of that belief system she could not attain in her own life. That was her mistake. Does it give others license to condemn her? Most here have opined, yes. Then go for it. People are condemning the fact that while she was out there preaching that belief system, she was throwing it out the window behind closed doors. You can't publicly preach abstinence-only sex ed, and then go home and get laid by your not-husband, and expect the public to think "no big deal". |
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Post by sues on Jun 26, 2015 15:52:42 GMT
I have not read the entire thread- so nothing I'm about to say is in response to anyone else's comments.
I'm not a Palin family fan - but yeesh, the hate being heaped on this young lady is bizarre.
She's not the first woman to get pregnant twice without being married. The shock and horror is comical- as if this hasn't happened to a gazillion women, the world over.
My favorite is the criticism for her announcing the pregnancy and then asking for privacy. The media being what it is- she had the sense to realize it would not be a secret for long. She made the announcement on her own terms. I don't think she should have included the part about disappointing people, etc. - she should have just focused on the positive. And she may find it hard to be positive right now, but she has to be - and I'm sure she knows it.
She has a hard road in front of her. Has she made some mistakes and bad decisions? Sure. Haven't we all?
People are just doing the best they can, famous or not.
ETA- Clearly I have not been reading up on the Palins lately- because I had no idea about any of this stuff Pjaye said:
Bristol gets paid $250,000 a pop to give talks, which includes talking about abstinence.
So if that's true, then I do think she's a total hypocrite. I see she is still going on about strong "Christian" beliefs etc, so I don't think it's very Christian (or very ethical) to take money, give talks and advise people on how to live their lives...and then do the exact opposite herself.
I see she also has a public blog, where she comments about what other people in the news and media say and do.
Yeah it takes some balls (and we now know she's been familiar with quite a few of those in her time) to have a blog and publically comment on what others are doing, but then ask for privacy and tell people not to comment about her own fuck-ups. You can't have it both ways honey.
If she had gone away somewhere and was quietly living her own life I'd be on the "leave her alone" side, BUT she still out there preaching about not having sex, telling other people how to act and what to do, well then she has to suck it up when the attention comes her way as a result of her own actions.
In light of that- I can see why she's getting some blowback. Yikes.
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Post by Regina Phalange on Jun 26, 2015 15:56:06 GMT
Seriously? Can't you see that no one is tearing her down for her choice but for the utter HYPOCRISY of her choice? To get paid a quarter of a million dollars to preach abstinence only to kids, to go on a public blog and ridicule others for THEIR choices, and then to blog about your own utter hypocrisy and expect everyone to shut up about it and give you privacy? When have the Palins EVER wanted privacy?
Oh, and about what she said about the pregnancy? You can be shocked and disappointed all over, but the RIGHT thing to do would have been to say you were pregnant and happy about the upcoming baby - even if it wasn't necessarily the truth right now.
I am not a fan of Sarah Palin, the family seems to find themselves in the news, it appears they bring the attention and criticism to themselves. I have no idea what Bristol Palin's values are nor do I particularly care. But it seems like many here are bothered by them. There was at least one comment saying she should have an abortion, my reference to choice was hers to have this baby. For that I wish her well. No everyone is capable of living a perfect life. I am no fan either. The only time I hear about them is when they thrust themselves in the limelight. I don't go looking for it. No one is bothered by her HAVING her set of values, they are bothered by her CRITICIZING others (Miley Cyrus) and DICTATING how she thinks THEY should be living their lives, when she's not even holding HERSELF to her own values.
No one expects her life to be perfect, they just expect her to practice what she preaches. I also wish her well with this child.
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I have not read the entire thread- so nothing I'm about to say is in response to anyone else's comments. I'm not a Palin family fan - but yeesh, the hate being heaped on this young lady is bizarre. She's not the first woman to get pregnant twice without being married. The shock and horror is comical- as if this hasn't happened to a gazillion women, the world over. My favorite is the criticism for her announcing the pregnancy and then asking for privacy. The media being what it is- she had the sense to realize it would not be a secret for long. She made the announcement on her own terms. I don't think she should have included the part about disappointing people, etc. - she should have just focused on the positive. And she may find it hard to be positive right now, but she has to be - and I'm sure she knows it. She has a hard road in front of her. Has she made some mistakes and bad decisions? Sure. Haven't we all? People are just doing the best they can, famour or not. If you read the posts you would see why some of us are rolling our eyes. She's made it her job to speak out on abstinence only and judges others based on her narrow view point very publicly. She chose that. |
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Post by Dalai Mama on Jun 26, 2015 16:03:37 GMT
I have not read the entire thread- so nothing I'm about to say is in response to anyone else's comments. I'm not a Palin family fan - but yeesh, the hate being heaped on this young lady is bizarre. She's not the first woman to get pregnant twice without being married. The shock and horror is comical- as if this hasn't happened to a gazillion women, the world over. My favorite is the criticism for her announcing the pregnancy and then asking for privacy. The media being what it is- she had the sense to realize it would not be a secret for long. She made the announcement on her own terms. I don't think she should have included the part about disappointing people, etc. - she should have just focused on the positive. And she may find it hard to be positive right now, but she has to be - and I'm sure she knows it. She has a hard road in front of her. Has she made some mistakes and bad decisions? Sure. Haven't we all? People are just doing the best they can, famour or not. I think you should have probably read the entire thread. The issue isn't with her pregnancy. As you said, she's not the first woman to get pregnant (twice) without being married.
But she's probably the first woman to get pregnant (without being married) while earning $30K for every speaking engagement extoling the virtues of abstinence-only sex education.
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Post by sues on Jun 26, 2015 16:05:06 GMT
I have not read the entire thread- so nothing I'm about to say is in response to anyone else's comments. I'm not a Palin family fan - but yeesh, the hate being heaped on this young lady is bizarre. She's not the first woman to get pregnant twice without being married. The shock and horror is comical- as if this hasn't happened to a gazillion women, the world over. My favorite is the criticism for her announcing the pregnancy and then asking for privacy. The media being what it is- she had the sense to realize it would not be a secret for long. She made the announcement on her own terms. I don't think she should have included the part about disappointing people, etc. - she should have just focused on the positive. And she may find it hard to be positive right now, but she has to be - and I'm sure she knows it. She has a hard road in front of her. Has she made some mistakes and bad decisions? Sure. Haven't we all? People are just doing the best they can, famour or not. If you read the posts you would see why some of us are rolling our eyes. She's made it her job to speak out on abstinence only and judges others based on her narrow view point very publicly. She chose that. Yes- I did see that, and I amended my post. Like I said- I wasn't commenting on anything anyone said here- I was commenting on the responses I was seeing on news posts on FB. I hadn't really heard anything else. I think you should have probably read the entire thread. The issue isn't with her pregnancy. As you said, she's not the first woman to get pregnant (twice) without being married.
But she's probably the first woman to get pregnant (without being married) while earning $30K for every speaking engagement extoling the virtues of abstinence-only sex education.Like I said- I have since read the thread, and I did amend my post. But that's why I started my comment with 'I haven't read the whole thread'. I do it this way on purpose, with controversial threads. I don't want to be influenced by the people posting. I want to put down my initial thoughts, then read and see how different perspectives may change my view. So- it's only fair to start with 'I haven't read the whole thread.' |
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