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Post by missysauter on Jul 15, 2014 17:29:12 GMT
Last weekend I attended a two day crop to work on a hybrid PL/traditional album of photos of our trip to NYC in 2006.
I've got these hilarious photos of my then 6 year son eating a hotdog. He's got this look in his eye that he will bite anyone who gets too close to his hotdog.
My journaling card is pretty generic in that I said - We are in NYC and my kid just wants a good old hotdog.
The truth is, my DS was on chemo treatment at that time for having leukemia. In the picture he looks healthy and has all his hair. Do, I tell the "real" story about why he was so intent on eating that hotdog? He was on steroids that made him ravenous and one of his medications really messed with his tastebuds and hotdogs was one of the few things that tasted good to him.
People looking at the album years from now may not know the back story of DS having had cancer. Would giving a snippet of journaling about it in a separate album be confusing?
Thanks!
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Post by Deleted on Jul 15, 2014 17:45:33 GMT
Why would you put the journalling in a separate album? Or do you mean you would re-scrap the picture and put the second page into another album instead of the PL album?
I don't think there's any reason NOT to include the real story behind the photo. It's not sensitive or private or humiliating or anything. I think it adds quite a bit of meaning to the photo and your son's story.
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mallie
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Post by mallie on Jul 15, 2014 17:49:47 GMT
Is there some reason you don't want to add even hidden jpurnaling to that page?
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Post by nesser01 on Jul 15, 2014 17:50:07 GMT
I am all about being real in my scrapbooks. I personally love story telling in my scrapbooks. I think you should tell the story and don't think it would be confusing at all. ETA: I agree with ashley. It would add quite a bit of meaning and background to the photo. I was trying to say that...but I can't seem to think straight today. Lol!
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Post by AerynK on Jul 15, 2014 17:52:28 GMT
If you're making an album about his cancer journey, I say include it in there. As someone with a fatal genetic illness, I like to record these things for myself, especially since I have such a terrible memory. Every time I get sick it's like it's the first time and it's NEVER BEEN THIS BAD!!!! Then, I go to my pages, look through, and just a few months previous it *was* this bad, I made it through, it's okay, just hang on and ride it out. It's helpful to know these things and to hear them in my own words even.
I would think more about what your son might want, or even ask him. Does he want his cancer mentioned? Does it add to the story of the trip? Maybe include it on a pullout card, instead of just written on the back so it doesn't get forgotten. Personally I would write it somewhere, but where kinda depends on what your intentions for the page are.
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Post by iammikki on Jul 15, 2014 17:59:31 GMT
I think that's a wonderful true story, and it is definitely worth telling. Yes, you're going through something really rough right now but it's a great way to talk about it without getting into the sad details.
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Post by pb on Jul 15, 2014 18:02:30 GMT
It sounds like his chemo treatment is an essential part of the story so I would mention it in a matter-of-fact way. However, I do like the idea of getting your son's input with choices (mention, hidden journalling, or skip it)
Sending good thoughts to your son for improved heath.
PB
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Post by kristenf on Jul 15, 2014 18:08:23 GMT
{{{hugs}}} You've clearly been through a lot! My opinion: I would tell the whole story. Write what you think about when you look at it, why these photos mean so much to you. It doesn't have to be drawn out or sombre... as simple as "Considering how his cancer treatments interfered with his ability to enjoy food, it was awesome to see him so utterly in love with this hot dog!" Think about it-what is the objective of leaving it out? If I understand your reference that you've already scrapped about his illness in another album, then clearly it's a topic that you've decided you're comfortable sharing in the scrapbooks. Once you've gotten to that point (and I'm sure there are a lot of feelings taken into account when decided how and when to share), I think it only enriches your life story to include the whole picture whenever you have the opportunity. When his kids and grandkids look at this NYC scrapbook, they will realize, "Wow, dad/grandpa went to NYC with cancer? He still had fun. He was really strong." It won't matter if they haven't seen the other scrapbooks, or whether they already knew that he had cancer when he was young. This information adds a whole layer to this story: how meaningful the time spent together was, how much strength everyone in the family had, how important these memories are and that the memories they make today are just as important. Don't leave it out.
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Post by missysauter on Jul 15, 2014 18:36:08 GMT
Sorry if I wasn't more clear. This is just an album about our trip to NYC. Those photos of him with the hotdog remind me of the fact that he was sick. The reality of why he looked half crazed while eating was because of his medications. I told the watered down version in my journaling. I won't be using these photos again in an album about his cancer.
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Post by missysauter on Jul 15, 2014 18:38:44 GMT
Oh DS doesn't mind talking about his cancer at all. He owns it. He truly lives his life as a survivor. I'm sure my saying something on a journaling card about why he was so crazy about that hotdog won't bother him at all.
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Post by Basket1lady on Jul 15, 2014 18:52:43 GMT
It sounds like that's how you remember your DS eating the hot dog, so to me it makes the cancer relevant to the story. You don't have to focus on the cancer here, but a mention of it gives the complete story.
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Post by mandolyn9909 on Jul 15, 2014 19:03:13 GMT
I know lots of times I hide the journalling if it isn't something I am comfortable with everyone reading. That is what I would have done in a situation like yours. Sometimes I have also written a few lines on the back of a page as well.
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Post by PaperAngel on Jul 15, 2014 19:03:45 GMT
Based on your OP, I suggest elaborating, "Note DS was on steroids that made him ravenous. One of his medications really messed with his tastebuds, & hotdogs were obviously one of the few things that tasted good to him!" Hidden journaling, on the reverse of the journaling card or photo, allows you to document more details without distracting from the photo of your ds that captured his personality at that time!
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Post by ScrappyJac on Jul 15, 2014 19:03:51 GMT
I go somewhere between depending on what story I want to tell. Sometimes I stick with the generic journaling, sometimes I give the whole story, and sometimes I go the route of hidden journaling. That part is very subjective, so I would ask yourself whether that is a part of the story you want to tell. I am all about being "real" in my albums, but that doesn't mean I include every bad (or good) detail.
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mallie
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Post by mallie on Jul 15, 2014 19:31:59 GMT
It sounds like that's how you remember your DS eating the hot dog, so to me it makes the cancer relevant to the story. You don't have to focus on the cancer here, but a mention of it gives the complete story. ITA
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Post by love2scrap on Jul 15, 2014 19:35:40 GMT
I would document it- he's a survivor and that's great! This experience like all experiences help to shape who he will become and THAT's the important story!
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Post by cricutgirlg on Jul 15, 2014 21:59:48 GMT
Good to hear he's a survivor! Very cool! I would include the info. it's inspiring that he did not lose his appetite, chemo can sometimes strip you of that. Share that memory.
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Post by amom23 on Jul 15, 2014 23:08:10 GMT
Your situation is the perfect fit for the bi-fold cards. It's a great story that should be recorded. By using the bi-fold cards it takes a little effort for someone to read it which most people won't do, but your son's story will be recorded along side the photos.
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Post by myboysnme on Jul 15, 2014 23:15:55 GMT
Real story.
The only issue I have is I don't leave room for the journalling I could do so I end up simplifying. I could still journal that "The steroids in Johnny's treatment for leukemia make him ravenous, so this hot dog was just the thing!"
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Post by scrapnnana on Jul 15, 2014 23:33:10 GMT
I think it's a story worth telling.
Sometimes I will use hidden journaling for a story that some people couldn't handle reading, but this doesn't really sound like one of those times.
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Post by vickie on Jul 16, 2014 0:55:13 GMT
Yes, do tell the real story! It is part of his life and gives more significance to the story.
My daughter went through chemo and the only thing that she could really taste was Taco Bell. So, she ate a lot of Taco Bell during chemo. She is now 4 years out from her last chemo and doing well. She was stage 3c ovarian cancer at the age of 28.
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Post by cannmom on Jul 16, 2014 17:19:19 GMT
I would do what makes you most comfortable. If you want the album to be more about the trip and not about the fact that he was sick at that time then leave it out.
That said, his illness is an important part of his life story and I would probably scrap that picture and story at some point for him to have. I can understand how it could be difficult though and maybe right now isn't the right time for you to do that.
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Post by Prenticekid on Jul 16, 2014 19:20:30 GMT
Yep. Just the way you described it, it is part of the story. Not the story of your entire vacation, but part of the story of your DS's life and your joy in him having a terrific moment.
I don't think we have to include all the gory details of life in our journaling, but I think if you leave some things out, and this would be a good example, in my opinion, you sort of cheapen it or take away from it.
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Post by krispin41 on Jul 16, 2014 19:22:42 GMT
Yes, do tell the real story! It is part of his life and gives more significance to the story. My daughter went through chemo and the only thing that she could really taste was Taco Bell. So, she ate a lot of Taco Bell during chemo. She is now 4 years out from her last chemo and doing well. She was stage 3c ovarian cancer at the age of 28. I would tell the story too, even if it was hidden. And Vickie, I too had ovarian cancer, and Taco Bell hit the spot with me too! Weird!
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Post by mikklynn on Jul 16, 2014 20:21:07 GMT
Oh DS doesn't mind talking about his cancer at all. He owns it. He truly lives his life as a survivor. I'm sure my saying something on a journaling card about why he was so crazy about that hotdog won't bother him at all. Good for him! He sounds like an amazing kid. I think it's cute and an important part of the story.
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Post by melanell on Jul 17, 2014 2:23:03 GMT
Oh, you know me, Missy, I'm the middle of the road gal. So I'd probably go somewhere in between the whole longer back story, and just a generic caption. Will your pages ultimately be in an album in such a way that other pages mentioning his cancer will be seen before this one? If so, then I would mention that the medications made him hungry and why he really craved hotdogs, just like you said in your OP, but I wouldn't feel the need to tell the whole back story about his actual cancer there. I'd figure people already knew the start of the story of his journey to recovery, and this is just one way in which it touched his every day life. But ultimately, tell what you want people to know. And if you think it would be best to add more info, go for it! Trust me, as the owner of envelopes of photos of people I don't know and photos that leave me confused about what the heck was happening here, there's probably nothing wrong with a little extra info on any given page.
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Post by LavenderLayoutLady on Jul 19, 2014 2:49:48 GMT
If I wasn't sure i wanted the journaling out there for all to see, I would probably do hidden journaling.
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Post by SuPeaNatural on Jul 19, 2014 22:48:53 GMT
I'd tell the story. Your son has a great attitude towards his illness and it will mean more to the reader to know the background story. I'm sure when his grandchildren are reading it, they will be interested to know about it. I'm one who journals it all - the good and bad, the easy and hard.
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Post by artisticscrapper on Jul 20, 2014 0:12:19 GMT
I'd go with the hidden journalling. Since you asked the question it may be because you aren't quite comfortable with the real story yet. If a close friend or relative is looking at the album you could always verbally give them the background if you want.
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Post by evnimom on Jul 20, 2014 1:03:44 GMT
I would journal about it if it was me. But I'm big on journaling; I'm always thinking that I won't always be there to tell the whole story.
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