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Post by bostonmama on Aug 6, 2015 3:38:14 GMT
We adopted two terrier mixes from a shelter a little over 2 years ago as puppies. One boy, one girl - both in the 20lb range. Our girl is finally great about only using the bathroom outside; our boy, on the other hand, HATES pooping outside. He does #2 three times a day - after breakfast, mid-day, and after dinner. They're on a great schedule, and we know exactly when they usually need to go. (Which is great bc they do not alert/signal that they need to go out!) Now, our boy can be let out of the crate around noon, taken to the backyard for 20+ minutes, and will still do his mid-day poop in the house a few days a week if he can get away with it. Many times I have to gripe at our boy to "go poopy!" until he finally does! He understands what I mean, knows where he is supposed to go, and hides in the house when he does go (the guest bathroom, behind the kitchen table). I can't figure out what his problem is! I have a feeling it stems from not enjoying the feel of the grass on his butt, but maybe not. Does anyone have any advice? They are crate trained and always have been. i'd love your thoughs and/or advice. Heading to bed, but will check in in the morning. Thanks  |
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Post by SabrinaP on Aug 6, 2015 3:43:51 GMT
You are going to have to babysit him in the backyard and make sure he goes to get him fully trained. Take him out and tell him to go potty wait a bit if he doesn't go you need to be able to keep your eyes on him in the house and get him outside at the first sign of poop. You can crate him or leash him to you if you can't watch him. He will continue to go in the house if he can get away with it. You've got to make him understand outside is the only place to go. Good luck! I have two 7 month old chihuahuas, so I totally know what you are dealing with.
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Post by 950nancy on Aug 6, 2015 3:53:59 GMT
My sheltie puppy was so quiet. We never knew she needed to go out. She would just sit quietly by the door in another room from us and we would miss the cue. I bought a bell and attached it to a piece of leather shoestring. Every time I took her out I rang it. In a few weeks she started ringing it if she had to go and no one was watching. Then we brought home the not so subtle corgi who believed the bell must be rung anytime he was not getting attention. He took a little longer to teach. It is also great if someone isn't feeling well in the middle of the night. This won't helping your dog wanting to go outside, but maybe they can at least tell you when.
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Post by crazy4scraps on Aug 6, 2015 4:38:47 GMT
Is there any way you could put him on a leash and walk him when you know he needs to poop? I would think the walking and forced movement would make him want to go quicker, and since you're with him you would know for sure that he actually did his business before going back in the house.
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Post by SabrinaP on Aug 6, 2015 4:52:00 GMT
My sheltie puppy was so quiet. We never knew she needed to go out. She would just sit quietly by the door in another room from us and we would miss the cue. I bought a bell and attached it to a piece of leather shoestring. Every time I took her out I rang it. In a few weeks she started ringing it if she had to go and no one was watching. Then we brought home the not so subtle corgi who believed the bell must be rung anytime he was not getting attention. He took a little longer to teach. It is also great if someone isn't feeling well in the middle of the night. This won't helping your dog wanting to go outside, but maybe they can at least tell you when. I tried the bell on the door but my puppies hate that thing. It's still hanging on the door in case one day they decide to ring it, but I'm not holding my breathe! |
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Post by bostonmama on Aug 6, 2015 12:04:20 GMT
He goes on a leash in the morning, as my husband takes the dogs out after they eat. During the day, though, it's just easier to let them go play in the backyard! Oh, and we tried the bell! In fact, the bell is still hanging on the front door! My girl will sit quietly on the runner in front of the door and wait for us to notice. Just recently she's begun doing things to get our attention and gets very excited once we understand what she's trying to tell us! Our boy just can't be bothered!
I will go back to babysitting them for the foreseeable future, giving him a treat as soon as he goes. I knew terriers took longer to house train, but it's been 2 years! Ugh!
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Post by momto4kiddos on Aug 6, 2015 13:37:45 GMT
I second the leash. We have 2 pups, one we got prior to fencing part of the yard for her to play in so she was on a leash to go out all the time during training. We didn't have too much of an issue getting her trained. In the meantime we fenced part of the yard and got another pup. Because it was easier i'd just bring them down to the yard unleashed. We had a tough time with him and I realized it was because he was free to roam in the yard just as the house so it didn't indicate that he needed to go anywhere special. It turned around pretty quickly when he was leashed to do his business.
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Post by bostonmama on Aug 6, 2015 15:17:49 GMT
I wish I just knew WHY he prefers going in the house!!! Other than being a difficult boy, that is!  |
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Post by RiverIsis on Aug 6, 2015 15:41:14 GMT
I wish I just knew WHY he prefers going in the house!!! Other than being a difficult boy, that is! our rescue, who we have had just over a year, is really inconsistent, and because of that, so are we! Last night I went to a soccer game with the kids and my husband tried to let the dog out to do his business and he wasn't interested, we had walked him before we left so all should have been good. So DH goes to bed before we get home and then hears the dog peeing inside the house and so we got home to see the dog on his cable outside. DH woke me early this morning to tell me the dog wasn't outside but a few minutes and he we getting up to let him back in and saw our headlights so let us deal with him. I don't know whether to get pee pads, or just keep dealing with the messes. |
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Post by momto4kiddos on Aug 6, 2015 17:01:16 GMT
I wish I just knew WHY he prefers going in the house!!! Other than being a difficult boy, that is! Well you thought it might be the grass, is there an area you could bring him to that is dirt of something similar so that grass isn't tickling his butt?  |
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Post by debb1c0le on Aug 6, 2015 21:55:48 GMT
We have a 12 week old Blue Heeler that we have recently started working with a trainer (severe aggression issues), her advise to us is our puppy is never left to wander the house. She is either on a leash, in her crate or in a gated off area. We set an alarm and she goes out every 35 minutes, if she goes potty she can be "free" for 20 minutes...it has helped drastically in the last week since we started doing it. The way she explained it is if they are left to pee/poop wherever they please then that's what they will do. Maybe since you know your dogs schedule you can leash him during that time to keep a watchful eye on him. Good Luck!
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Post by crimsoncat05 on Aug 6, 2015 22:19:29 GMT
I haven't read the replies... hopefully you got some good advice, because I have to supervise all three of ours to make sure they do what they need to-- lol! If I don't supervise then they run around the yard, play with each other, or get interested in all manner of other things and never actually go. I find it's a lot less hassle to just stay out there with them for the few minutes it takes for them to go, rather than let them in and out endlessly.
eta: our third Sheltie was adopted from a breeder, and had been used to going on the cement (she had a dog run) or in the grass, since they had a huge yard. I had a tough time getting her to go in the gravel and not on the patio or in our tiny grass patch, and had to ride herd on her so she would go where I wanted her to and not where I didn't. It took a week or two, and I think there was a day or so where she absolutely would. not. go. at all during that process. I still have to keep her in the proper area (and away from the patio and grass) every now and then.
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Post by SabrinaP on Aug 6, 2015 22:46:00 GMT
I wish I just knew WHY he prefers going in the house!!! Other than being a difficult boy, that is! our rescue, who we have had just over a year, is really inconsistent, and because of that, so are we! Last night I went to a soccer game with the kids and my husband tried to let the dog out to do his business and he wasn't interested, we had walked him before we left so all should have been good. So DH goes to bed before we get home and then hears the dog peeing inside the house and so we got home to see the dog on his cable outside. DH woke me early this morning to tell me the dog wasn't outside but a few minutes and he we getting up to let him back in and saw our headlights so let us deal with him. I don't know whether to get pee pads, or just keep dealing with the messes. Is your dog crate trained? If not, that's what I would do. Until they are trained dogs can be crated. My puppies each have a small crate. They have a crate pad and blankets inside them. They like their crates and often go inside to sleep in them without me crating them. |
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Post by bostonmama on Aug 6, 2015 23:04:05 GMT
Thanks, ladies, for the comisseration and advice!! Part of me thinks it may be the grass (as he does like to wipe his butt on things after he goes) and part of me thinks he's just a butt! I haven't allowed him out of my sight while in the house today, and if I see him start to walk off I gripe at him "NO POOPY IN THE HOUSE!" I didn't babysit him outside today, but I plan to make a more concerted effort to do so. He always goes #2 in the exact same place in the back of the yard, and I'd think he'd go on the patio if it WAS the grass he didn't like, right? Dogs!! I wish they'd answer me when I asked them what their deal was!  ? |
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Post by RiverIsis on Aug 7, 2015 2:36:32 GMT
our rescue, who we have had just over a year, is really inconsistent, and because of that, so are we! Last night I went to a soccer game with the kids and my husband tried to let the dog out to do his business and he wasn't interested, we had walked him before we left so all should have been good. So DH goes to bed before we get home and then hears the dog peeing inside the house and so we got home to see the dog on his cable outside. DH woke me early this morning to tell me the dog wasn't outside but a few minutes and he we getting up to let him back in and saw our headlights so let us deal with him. I don't know whether to get pee pads, or just keep dealing with the messes. Is your dog crate trained? If not, that's what I would do. Until they are trained dogs can be crated. My puppies each have a small crate. They have a crate pad and blankets inside them. They like their crates and often go inside to sleep in them without me crating them. He pretty much follows me all day and runs errands with me if it is cool enough otherwise he is put in the crate when we go out for a long time but we let him sleep in his bed on the couch (yeah I know) at night. He is really good about crating when we go out for the most part. He had an accident in the crate the other day. I don't know if we are being silly owners or if this is a long term issue and why he was up for rescue. At the moment I can't change the sleeping for at least a week. Still he's improved. I slept in a recliner and he slept in my lap all night when we first got him because he was so nervous. Tiny steps. |
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