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Post by myshelly on Aug 6, 2015 21:38:03 GMT
I don't know what the big deal is. I've never been bothered by crying babies. I actually think a general statement about not being disruptive would be better. I would rethink dining at this place if they can't handle crying babies. No one should have to "handle" a crying baby. A crying baby is not appropriate in a restaurant. People who don't understand that are the reason we have to have announcements like this.
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Post by peano on Aug 6, 2015 21:38:44 GMT
I find the use of the term "cry baby" incredibly offensive. Yes, crying babies and crying adults should probably step away (or be taken away by parents) to avoid disturbing other patrons. However, when I read this, I imagine it has been written by someone who does not understand or accept that crying is a normal, acceptable and valid way to express emotion--AKA someone whose emotional growth is stunted. The fact that the OP says "nice way to not offend anyone makes me go . I am constantly amazed at the phrases or words that offend people on this board. I personally don't find the term offensive. Sorry if that shocks you. I don't shock easily and I feel perfectly secure and comfortable with my previous statements. There seems to be a certain backlash toward perceived "excessive" political correctness among certain segments, however I view "crybaby" in the same category as "retard" and I dislike the pejorative connotation. Sorry if that shocks you.
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Post by cmpeter on Aug 6, 2015 21:43:38 GMT
I don't have any problems with the notice. I can't remember the last time my restaurant meal was disturbed by a crying baby.
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Post by gmcwife1 on Aug 6, 2015 21:51:25 GMT
I don't know what the big deal is. I've never been bothered by crying babies. I actually think a general statement about not being disruptive would be better. I would rethink dining at this place if they can't handle crying babies. No one should have to "handle" a crying baby. A crying baby is not appropriate in a restaurant. People who don't understand that are the reason we have to have announcements like this. Exactly. Just like no one should have to handle a barking dog. Just because it doesn't bother one person doesn't mean it isn't rude or disruptive to most people.
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Post by mallie on Aug 6, 2015 21:54:13 GMT
I don't have any problems with the notice. I can't remember the last time my restaurant meal was disturbed by a crying baby. We were on vacation last week, so ate 7 dinners out. Two of them had screaming, crying kids that went on for over ten minutes each.
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Post by mollycoddle on Aug 6, 2015 21:54:26 GMT
I like it. Please take crying children outside, or to your car.
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Post by papersilly on Aug 6, 2015 21:55:18 GMT
I don't think people want to cry in restaurants. it just happens. I just started crying at a restaurant after my mom died and then again after my FIL died. didn't plan to. I'm not usually a crier but it happened. I didn't step outside. I just dabbed and went on. I don't think my crying disturbed or offended anyone. I hope it didn't make anyone uncomfortable. HOWEVER, I was at a rest stop McDonalds and I walk into the tiny bathroom to find one young woman balling while her friend tried to console her. they were standing by the sink. there was no place for them to move so I had to pee next to them. awkward for all of us.
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Post by gmcwife1 on Aug 6, 2015 21:55:43 GMT
I don't have any problems with the notice. I can't remember the last time my restaurant meal was disturbed by a crying baby. We were on vacation last week, so ate 7 dinners out. Two of them had screaming, crying kids that went on for over ten minutes each. That's such a bummer. I hope it was the only unpleasantness on your vacation!
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Post by grinningcat on Aug 6, 2015 21:56:13 GMT
Ugh... whether the child is crying or screaming, it's all annoying. I like that the premise of take your kids out is set up right from the start. Of course some special snowflakes will think they are above it because making noise is natural or some sort of poppycock.
Personally, I would be mortified to lose face and cry in a restaurant or any public place. It is uncomfortable to see any kind of extreme emotion in public from an adult. I prefer to handle these things in private.
And crybaby is offensive on the same level as retard? Seriously? Good grief. Unclench.
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Post by anonrefugee on Aug 6, 2015 22:04:16 GMT
What a silly thing to include on a menu. The owner will probably be griping later, wondering the reason he's lost volume in young customers. Few people go to a restaurant expecting to cry, but parents of littles will avoid a place with that stance.
if the owner thinks this makes it a "fine dining" experience he needs to get out more.
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Post by NoWomanNoCry on Aug 6, 2015 22:05:58 GMT
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Post by basketdiva on Aug 6, 2015 22:11:01 GMT
I don't think the comment has anything to do with a fine dining experience as it has to do with a pleasant experience for all the diners.
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Post by Deleted on Aug 6, 2015 22:13:45 GMT
I'd probably want to leave a restaurant if I saw a message like that on their menu. My kids have never cried during a restaurant meal, but I'd think the staff and management must be very sensitive and bothered by a lot of things to include and want to enforce "no cry baby. young or old".
I'd much rather see a disclaimer that "disruptive and unruly guests -- and their parents -- will be asked to leave" or something else like that.
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Post by grinningcat on Aug 6, 2015 22:14:49 GMT
What a silly thing to include on a menu. The owner will probably be griping later, wondering the reason he's lost volume in young customers. Few people go to a restaurant expecting to cry, but parents of littles will avoid a place with that stance. if the owner thinks this makes it a "fine dining" experience he needs to get out more. They may lose family business (I'm sorry to say this but the word "littles" to describe children is ridiculous), but they will gain a lot of business from child-free couples and adults who don't want their evening ruined by children. I know a lot of child-free couples who would love to have a child-free dining experience.
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Post by anonrefugee on Aug 6, 2015 22:22:50 GMT
What a silly thing to include on a menu. The owner will probably be griping later, wondering the reason he's lost volume in young customers. Few people go to a restaurant expecting to cry, but parents of littles will avoid a place with that stance. if the owner thinks this makes it a "fine dining" experience he needs to get out more. They may lose family business (I'm sorry to say this but the word "littles" to describe children is ridiculous), but they will gain a lot of business from child-free couples and adults who don't want their evening ruined by children. I know a lot of child-free couples who would love to have a child-free dining experience. I've never had trouble identifying adult oriented restaurants, but we've got a wide assortment.
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Post by grinningcat on Aug 6, 2015 22:25:16 GMT
They may lose family business (I'm sorry to say this but the word "littles" to describe children is ridiculous), but they will gain a lot of business from child-free couples and adults who don't want their evening ruined by children. I know a lot of child-free couples who would love to have a child-free dining experience. I've never had trouble identifying adult oriented restaurants, but we've got a wide assortment. We are not in any way lacking for restaurants here. My point is that many people would like to go to a restaurant that doesn't have children in it. That's all. And if there was a restaurant catering to that by being militant about removing disruptive children, then they would be more likely to go to those restaurants. That's all I was saying, you said they would lose business because families would stay away... I was saying that there is another clientele that would take their place.
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Post by crimsoncat05 on Aug 6, 2015 22:27:08 GMT
...it seems like maybe some people on this thread didn't read the whole 'diner / crying child' thread from a couple weeks ago-- ??
How is a restaurant supposed to get someone disruptive from bothering the other diners, if whatever they try to do to be polite about it (such as this note in the menu) is found offensive by SOMEone? It seems like a damned if you do, damned if you don't sort of thing...
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Post by basketdiva on Aug 6, 2015 23:01:12 GMT
...it seems like maybe some people on this thread didn't read the whole 'diner / crying child' thread from a couple weeks ago-- ?? How is a restaurant supposed to get someone disruptive from bothering the other diners, if whatever they try to do to be polite about it (such as this note in the menu) is found offensive by SOMEone? It seems like a damned if you do, damned if you don't sort of thing... I agree with you 100%
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Post by Deleted on Aug 6, 2015 23:09:34 GMT
I find the use of the term "cry baby" incredibly offensive. Yes, crying babies and crying adults should probably step away (or be taken away by parents) to avoid disturbing other patrons. However, when I read this, I imagine it has been written by someone who does not understand or accept that crying is a normal, acceptable and valid way to express emotion--AKA someone whose emotional growth is stunted. The fact that the OP says "nice way to not offend anyone makes me go . Crying is a normal valid way to express emotion. It is NOT acceptable in most public settings. Defecation is a normal valid function. But civilized people don't do it in public. I'd say the emotionally stunted are those who can't recognize what venue is unacceptable for any action including crying. Tears welling up and silent sliding down cheeks aren't likely to disturb the table next to you. Wailing so you can be heard across the room... time to go.
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Post by Deleted on Aug 6, 2015 23:38:30 GMT
It seems like a stupid thing to put on a menu. Why not just be direct? Parents with crying babies/children will be asked to step outside so other diners can enjoy their dinner. Just babies and children? About a month ago a couple of girlfriends and I went to the city shopping and stopped for dinner before heading for home. It had been a great day we found lots that we liked and got our share of bargains. We are seated and order and food arrives all the while we are listening to this blubbering fool go on and on about being dumped by her boyfriend between bouts of ugly cry. And her friends are trying to console her. When the waitstaff put our food down we asked if they could find us another table. The restaurant was crowded and we were nearly done by the time they were able to offer us another table so we stayed where we were. Needless to say the day ended on a bit of a sour note. I have never run into that problem. Something to think about. I get what @peano is saying. For a business to use Cry Babies on their menu seems immature. You would think a business could be more professional with its wording. I'm not incredibly offended, I think it's poorly worded.
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Post by cannes on Aug 7, 2015 0:03:21 GMT
I appreciate that this restaurant is trying.
I think that the people that this is addressed to still won't get it, though. And, apparently someone will *always* be offended.
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Post by 950nancy on Aug 7, 2015 0:17:47 GMT
I know babies cry and little kids can be naughty. The thing that bothers me is when the adults are ignoring the behavior. It generally doesn't go away on its own.
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Post by ~Lauren~ on Aug 7, 2015 0:37:50 GMT
I find the use of the term "cry baby" incredibly offensive. Yes, crying babies and crying adults should probably step away (or be taken away by parents) to avoid disturbing other patrons. However, when I read this, I imagine it has been written by someone who does not understand or accept that crying is a normal, acceptable and valid way to express emotion--AKA someone whose emotional growth is stunted. The fact that the OP says "nice way to not offend anyone makes me go . For the love. Is there nothing that isn't offensive anymore? After all the years on this board do you really need to ask??? We had a picture on Facebook with Ralph Kramden saying "good morning America! What are we offended about today?"
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