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Post by RiverIsis on Aug 9, 2015 17:30:41 GMT
Hate to use it but we're comparing apples and oranges. Since mine started secondary in England and we moved to the USA I think I have a bit of experience to say. That no, the GCSE isn't equivalent to a High School Diploma. I was only going by our UCAS site as to the entry to university requirements was. I assumed that they would know the academic standard that both the GCSE and the US High School diploma was. I wasn't saying that they were the same as such but the academic standard achieved is the same. This is what they said on their site for international students EVALUATION
High School Graduation Diploma
On its own, at a minimum, can be considered acceptable in lieu
of GCSE (grades A, B, C) provided an average grade C is obtained
in subjects which have counterparts in the GCSE syllabus link to UCAS requirements on page 62 of the documentI understand why they would equate it at a minimum as they have to have something. I know we briefly looked into it for our students (they wanted to choose their school) as they are dual nationals and to get a better UCAS university a student definitely needed Advanced Placement, International Bacc, and high external testing from ACT/SAT boards. I think they also realize it is an apples/oranges comparison. Honestly, not all High School diplomas are created equal.
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Post by Deleted on Aug 9, 2015 17:30:35 GMT
I hate seeing students who are GOOD at something being forced to do something they don't like rather than letting them use the talents and skills they have. 20 years ago, the transmission mechanic at the car dealership I worked at was bringing in $78K per year - in his 20's, with no college at all. I have finally hit that amount as a teacher - after 20 years of experience and a master's degree. Don't tell me that his job was somehow lesser than mine - he was damn good at what he did and those jobs will never be outsourced. But no, let's insist that he needs to go to college and take English 101 and a bunch of other stuff, build up a huge pile of debt, and then he can get a job where he may make $40K per year to start. We will always need people who are good at working with their hands - repairmen, plumbers, electricians, woodworkers, etc. Why aren't we letting kids prepare for those jobs? They pay well - and sometimes MORE - than some jobs requiring college. I totally agree with you. Not every one is cut out to go to college and not every job needs a college standard of education. I think the difference in the UK to the US is that kids here cover their general standard of education between the years of 5 and 16 years when they take their final exams ( GCSE General Certificate of Education in each of their subjects) where as they have an extra 2 years to get to the same academic standard in the US to gain their High School Diploma.
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Post by raindancer on Aug 9, 2015 17:33:04 GMT
Yes, if a 4 day week has proven benefits that outweigh other schedules and improve learning, overall satisfaction, and are a benefit to the kids, then why wouldn't we? because parents have to find daycare for that day. I don't know how may, but most of the teachers on this thread have stated that we have no control over the calendar. This isn't a teacher union issue. Calendars are decided by the school board. They base their decisions on a myriad of issues including cost, impact on low ses families (added daycare expense), extra curriculars, college admissions/timing, parental concerns and yes, student achievement. They weigh each of those issues before making a decision. Quite a few teachers have also said they wouldn't mind a year round calendar. I'd like to maybe go on vacation some time that isn't one week in April or over the summer. It sounds nice to me. But I can appreciate the challenges that a district and I know that that type of schedule does not benefit all children just as traditional school years don't benefit all children. There are legitimate barriers to year round school. To dismiss them is short-sighted and tells me that there is a lack of knowledge about how districts work. In a perfect world we'd have the money to do everything that might benefit a student, but this isn't a perfect world In our area, daycares, camps, etc. all work around the year round schedule nicely. It can work. I'm not being short-sighted, but I am not just going to stand by and have you tell me all the reasons that it won't work, when I know differently by experience that it can work. I can also appreciate the challenges and have said as much. And I also know that not all school boards are doing what is in the best interest of teachers and students. I am not dismissing anything, but you seem to be, as do other teachers on this thread. And not once have I claimed that we live in some perfect world where money is flowing. (And I have mentioned how I live in the shitty state of AZ where they don't give a damn about minorities, poverty or education at. all.)
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Post by darkangel090260 on Aug 9, 2015 17:33:46 GMT
because most parent are to lazy to handle it and not willing to work with it
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Post by freecharlie on Aug 9, 2015 17:35:12 GMT
I was only going by our UCAS site as to the entry to university requirements was. I assumed that they would know the academic standard that both the GCSE and the US High School diploma was. I wasn't saying that they were the same as such but the academic standard achieved is the same. This is what they said on their site for international students EVALUATION
High School Graduation Diploma
On its own, at a minimum, can be considered acceptable in lieu
of GCSE (grades A, B, C) provided an average grade C is obtained
in subjects which have counterparts in the GCSE syllabus link to UCAS requirements on page 62 of the documentI understand why they would equate it at a minimum as they have to have something. I know we briefly looked into it for our students (they wanted to choose their school) as they are dual nationals and to get a better UCAS university a student definitely needed Advanced Placement, International Bacc, and high external testing from ACT/SAT boards. I think they also realize it is an apples/oranges comparison. Honestly, not all High School diplomas are created equal. This is 100% correct. In the district I teach, students need 29 credits t9 graduate and they have to be in specific areas. We have students transfer to the city school district their senior year because that district only requires 22 credits.
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Post by RiverIsis on Aug 9, 2015 17:38:34 GMT
I hate seeing students who are GOOD at something being forced to do something they don't like rather than letting them use the talents and skills they have. 20 years ago, the transmission mechanic at the car dealership I worked at was bringing in $78K per year - in his 20's, with no college at all. I have finally hit that amount as a teacher - after 20 years of experience and a master's degree. Don't tell me that his job was somehow lesser than mine - he was damn good at what he did and those jobs will never be outsourced. But no, let's insist that he needs to go to college and take English 101 and a bunch of other stuff, build up a huge pile of debt, and then he can get a job where he may make $40K per year to start. We will always need people who are good at working with their hands - repairmen, plumbers, electricians, woodworkers, etc. Why aren't we letting kids prepare for those jobs? They pay well - and sometimes MORE - than some jobs requiring college. I totally agree with you. Not every one is cut out to go to college and not every job needs a college standard of education. I think the difference in the UK to the US is that kids here cover their general standard of education between the years of 5 and 16 years when they take their final exams ( GCSE General Certificate of Education in each of their subjects) where as they have an extra 2 years to get to the same academic standard in the US to gain their High School Diploma. It depends on the school district. We have 2 districts locally. One offers a vocational stream for the last 3 years. Students from the other district can be bused to that district for vocational ed for half a day, but it is intimidating for some students (who already are not that academic) to leave their school to go to another part time. Also a High School Diploma doesn't indicate whether the student did the bare minimum in credits and scores in classes or exceeded the top of what the school offers with students taking University dual credit courses, Advance Placement (which give University credit) courses or International Baccalaureate courses etc. so unfortunately saying something is equivalent to a high school diploma doesn't really mean much.
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Post by raindancer on Aug 9, 2015 17:40:56 GMT
Ok, Merge. If you are not interested in using actual information and think that "helping it along" will reduce your music programs, then fine. I don't know what else we can talk about. You have no evidence that this is true or will happen, and there is more evidence that it is likely to happen in the traditional setting then outside of it. Our programs have been cut too, we no longer have art right now. (See post to country ham up above). It isn't a magic bullet, but it's also been shown to have value. there are pros and cons in any system. But I feel that giving something new a fair shake can't hurt since we know that how we have things now isn't as effective as it should be. I think you are reading tone where there is none, because it was a legit question to you, do you get the summer off or not? It's commonly used when teachers are angry that people suppose they don't work 3 months out of the year. So if it is true, then I can see how working over part of the breaks in year round school would be upsetting. If you don't actually take the whole 3 months off, then I don't see what difference it makes anyway. You do the trainings, coaching, etc. the same way, some of it falls over break. (Football coaches work the entire month of august and they are teachers). It was just a question. How you read that is on you. I think it is unwise to jump into a change for change's sake. It is unwise to adjust something that affects so many people, when past evidence in an area suggests that it would not work. Especially when there is no clear evidence that the change will have a positive effect. You're saying "do this - it might work even though no study has shown conclusively that it will." while lambasting someone for saying "we shouldn't do this because in the past we've had these problems and these are the obstacles we will face." That doesn't make sense to me. But no one here has offered sound evidence that it doesn't work. They are only saying "I think it won't". I'm saying that there is plenty of ways to look at this topic and that dismissing it out of hand based on "experience" in a bubble is weird. If you haven't worked it or lived it then how can you say with such certainty that it won't work in your area? In the past lots of things have happened. That doesn't mean at a different time it won't work going forward. A small example. A guy I work with had a really good idea about a form that needs some work. It's awkward and creates a burdensome amount of paperwork. He created something new that is equally effective and fits on one sheet. It creates 12 sheets of paper per year instead of several hundred. He brought it up about 2 years ago and was pretty much dismissed. No one would give it five minutes to even consider making the change. Fast forward. Now that things are tightening up in the budget he brought it forward as a cost savings mechanism. It was given time in two meetings and was taken immediately to the management team for approval. In a week he had it, and final edits are going in this week. This is clearly an oversimplification, but truly sometimes there is a reason something won't' work out in one period of time and then it does in another. nothing changed about his proposal, but the community changed. (ie: company needs were altered). So maybe it didn't' make sense in 2002, and maybe it doesn't make sense in 2015, but if you havne't visited the idea in over a decade maybe you should consider it. Unless what you are doing now is giving you crazy improved results and whatever. But if you are flat lined in your district, I fail to see how trying to shake it up and trying something new is something that people want to resist. "If you always do what you've always done..." right?
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Post by moosedogtoo on Aug 9, 2015 17:58:29 GMT
What I cannot understand is all the people here who think that spending money for AC is too big of a burden in exchange for the betterment of our education system. Do you realize how absurd that sounds? AC is too much to ask? It's an expense we don't want to offer our kids a competitive edge in a global economy. We know year round school helps kids learn better. It's nothing more than intellectual laziness and an inability to think outside the box, and to look to others to see how it can work. Change is a challenge, but when it's for a worthy cause like improving our children and by default our country and our world, it's worth while. Disclaimer: My kids are homeschooled, so I have no dog in this fight. Where do you think schools that are barely scraping by as it is are going to come up with millions of dollars to install A/C in all the schools in the school district. In our district there are 47 schools. At a very conservative estimate of $2,000,000 per school, that's $94,000,000. Where is this district going to come up with that money? And that doesn't include the cost of the electricity and maintenance. Money doesn't grow on trees in this school district.
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Post by freecharlie on Aug 9, 2015 18:03:39 GMT
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So for those of you who keep saying "it works" without backing it up with any facts. Here is an overview of the research available. First, the data is inconclusive Second, when it is show that year-round schooling is beneficial, there are extra learning opportunities available and used by the students. This would increase the cost of the school year as someone has to be there for remediation and extra practice sessions. The buses would need to run to get the students to the extra practice. Is isn't just, let's changed the schedule and the students will do better.
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Post by AmeliaBloomer on Aug 9, 2015 18:05:23 GMT
A system that does not pay for a teacher to call a parent with a different area code is not going to pay to retro-fit 100 buildings so A/C can pump throughout July. Yup! [Disclaimer: I'm a teacher who wouldn't mind changing up the calendar, but has only read the last page of the thread.] It seems the people extolling the merits of thinking out of the box...creative solutions...federal energy incentives, etc. perhaps might not be as scornful of teachers who are "Yeah, but"ing if they heard more examples like jenniferc describes in her post. This is not willful resistance devoid of creative thinking; it's just reality. Regarding just the AC issue: I work in several districts. Many only have 3-4 story schools built in the early part of the 20th century, even the 1800s. Air conditioning is very very very far down the list of building priorities - and this is an area with hot, humid summers. Sometimes I wonder if the people making these arguments have any familiarity with buildings like this and the daily challenges they present - sometimes just finding an outlet that actually works, into which you can plug one more strip plug you bought with your own money... And yes, we need to return to vocational education, but I'll never shut up once I start with that...
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Post by myshelly on Aug 9, 2015 18:05:29 GMT
Talk to the school boards, my dear, talk to the school boards. ![:smile:](//storage.proboards.com/forum/images/smiley/smiley.png) Thats my point. The parents need to confront their school boards. If you let them get away with lazy excuses then that is on you. Hold them accountable. Vote for bonds. Communities can move mountains and create a strong team with the school district. I know because I live it. It can be done. It takes effort and involvement and parents and educators working as a team. But it's not impossible. When the school board discussed year round school here, the parents and community rallied AGAINST it. The school board was for it and the community was against it. Any school board member who supported it was voted out in the next election. It hasn't been brought up since.
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Post by Deleted on Aug 9, 2015 18:07:00 GMT
I was only going by our UCAS site as to the entry to university requirements was. I assumed that they would know the academic standard that both the GCSE and the US High School diploma was. I wasn't saying that they were the same as such but the academic standard achieved is the same. This is what they said on their site for international students EVALUATION
High School Graduation Diploma
On its own, at a minimum, can be considered acceptable in lieu
of GCSE (grades A, B, C) provided an average grade C is obtained
in subjects which have counterparts in the GCSE syllabus link to UCAS requirements on page 62 of the documentI understand why they would equate it at a minimum as they have to have something. I know we briefly looked into it for our students (they wanted to choose their school) as they are dual nationals and to get a better UCAS university a student definitely needed Advanced Placement, International Bacc, and high external testing from ACT/SAT boards. I think they also realize it is an apples/oranges comparison. Honestly, not all High School diplomas are created equal. They'd need the AP or the Inter Bacc for any university over here not just the better ones. That is the academic standard of our A level which you have to have a certain level of, usually and A* A or B to get into any University.There's very very few that would accept as low as a C. In addition to the A levels ( in three subjects normally) you also need the minimum of 5 GCSE at C or above including English and Maths which is where the academic comparison comes into play.
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Post by freecharlie on Aug 9, 2015 18:13:23 GMT
Here's from a different article Show me where the research is saying definatively that year-round school is better for our students?
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Post by RiverIsis on Aug 9, 2015 18:19:51 GMT
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So for those of you who keep saying "it works" without backing it up with any facts. Here is an overview of the research available. First, the data is inconclusive Second, when it is show that year-round schooling is beneficial, there are extra learning opportunities available and used by the students. This would increase the cost of the school year as someone has to be there for remediation and extra practice sessions. The buses would need to run to get the students to the extra practice. Is isn't just, let's changed the schedule and the students will do better. Thanks for finding that. I meant to clarify that this also gives "summer school" in a timely manner. In theory - So you if you are failing the 1st 9 weeks then your summer school is the next week when everyone is on the first week of a two week break. It makes the catch up work timely rather than letting a child fail all year for a concept they didn't grasp in the first few weeks. In practice, sometimes the remediation work was relevant and other times it wasn't. Do other districts not have summer school anymore?
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Post by freecharlie on Aug 9, 2015 18:20:25 GMT
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Post by RiverIsis on Aug 9, 2015 18:22:31 GMT
I understand why they would equate it at a minimum as they have to have something. I know we briefly looked into it for our students (they wanted to choose their school) as they are dual nationals and to get a better UCAS university a student definitely needed Advanced Placement, International Bacc, and high external testing from ACT/SAT boards. I think they also realize it is an apples/oranges comparison. Honestly, not all High School diplomas are created equal. They'd need the AP or the Inter Bacc for any university over here not just the better ones. That is the academic standard of our A level which you have to have a certain level of, usually and A* A or B to get into any University.There's very very few that would accept as low as a C. In addition to the A levels ( in three subjects normally) you also need the minimum of 5 GCSE at C or above including English and Maths which is where the academic comparison comes into play. Because that is the best standardized equivalent. It makes sense.
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Post by RiverIsis on Aug 9, 2015 18:25:17 GMT
What I cannot understand is all the people here who think that spending money for AC is too big of a burden in exchange for the betterment of our education system. Do you realize how absurd that sounds? AC is too much to ask? It's an expense we don't want to offer our kids a competitive edge in a global economy. We know year round school helps kids learn better. It's nothing more than intellectual laziness and an inability to think outside the box, and to look to others to see how it can work. Change is a challenge, but when it's for a worthy cause like improving our children and by default our country and our world, it's worth while. Disclaimer: My kids are homeschooled, so I have no dog in this fight. Where do you think schools that are barely scraping by as it is are going to come up with millions of dollars to install A/C in all the schools in the school district. In our district there are 47 schools. At a very conservative estimate of $2,000,000 per school, that's $94,000,000. Where is this district going to come up with that money? And that doesn't include the cost of the electricity and maintenance. Money doesn't grow on trees in this school district. it actually could be a rallying cry for a better, more advanced, cost effective building for the students rather than a retrofit, especially if a school employs a renewable energy model where they are able to sell power back to the grid.
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Post by freecharlie on Aug 9, 2015 18:27:56 GMT
Not so much in the traditional sense. Districts must offer ESY (extended school year) for sped students that qualify. Other summer school options are left to the district/school. In my district very few kids do summer school and usually it is a credit recovery type thing for high schoolers. There is only one or two teachers for any/all summer school students and it isn't grade or class specific. I honestly don't know how it works in my district's younger schools. In the district my kids go to, there is one elementary teacher for summer school for all grade levels. The middle school did not have summer school this year. The high school had credit recovery that you could do on the computer, but I am not sure if there was as staff member or not. Summer school in that sense is not what they mean by the extra help. The extra help would be intensive and specific. These students would not go 180 days, but more, so is it really the calendar or the extra practice that helps. Like I said, I am not against year-round school, it isn't going to happen where I live because the buildins are old. Mine was built in 1928. My son's middle school was built in 1908. Neither can get a/c and the air flow sucks. We go back next week and I will be sweating buckets every day for a couple of weeks. Also, I live in a rural area. These kids really do work on their family's farm or ranches. They raise the animals and work the tractors. Some will be taken out of school for harvest if their crops are harvested later. I think it would be great to be able to vacation during hockey season. I could go see games in other venues. ![:)](//storage.proboards.com/5645536/images/MNrJDkDuSwqIMVw33MdD.jpg)
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Post by freecharlie on Aug 9, 2015 18:31:43 GMT
Disclaimer: My kids are homeschooled, so I have no dog in this fight. Where do you think schools that are barely scraping by as it is are going to come up with millions of dollars to install A/C in all the schools in the school district. In our district there are 47 schools. At a very conservative estimate of $2,000,000 per school, that's $94,000,000. Where is this district going to come up with that money? And that doesn't include the cost of the electricity and maintenance. Money doesn't grow on trees in this school district. it actually could be a rallying cry for a better, more advanced, cost effective building for the students rather than a retrofit, especially if a school employs a renewable energy model where they are able to sell power back to the grid. I'd love a new middle school for my kid. Unfortunately we can't tear the old school down because it is protected because of its age (we can't tear the gym down either and it needs it so badly) and our district doesn't have any other land. We did just pass a bond so the improvements that can be done, will be done. Of course they are also building a horse pasture which I scratch my head at and think would make a good place for a middle school. The district I used to teach in did put a/c in all their buildings. Any new buildings automatically had it and then something like 3 schools a year got upgraded until they all had it. It can be done, especially in bigger districts, although I know the Denver School District only has 7 schools with a/c.
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Post by RiverIsis on Aug 9, 2015 18:42:30 GMT
A system that does not pay for a teacher to call a parent with a different area code is not going to pay to retro-fit 100 buildings so A/C can pump throughout July. Yup! [Disclaimer: I'm a teacher who wouldn't mind changing up the calendar, but has only read the last page of the thread.] It seems the people extolling the merits of thinking out of the box...creative solutions...federal energy incentives, etc. perhaps might not be as scornful of teachers who are "Yeah, but"ing if they heard more examples like jenniferc describes in her post. This is not willful resistance devoid of creative thinking; it's just reality. Regarding just the AC issue: I work in several districts. Many only have 3-4 story schools built in the early part of the 20th century, even the 1800s. Air conditioning is very very very far down the list of building priorities - and this is an area with hot, humid summers. Sometimes I wonder if the people making these arguments have any familiarity with buildings like this and the daily challenges they present - sometimes just finding an outlet that actually works, into which you can plug one more strip plug you bought with your own money... And yes, we need to return to vocational education, but I'll never shut up once I start with that... I think we have to be open that it could be more cost effective long term to open a new school building rather than attempting to renovate an antiquated one. FWIW My mother is a retired preK-12 speech therapist. When she did it she covered every school in the district. I have been in so many school buildings in my life with her (working and then conferences, regional/state meetings at different schools etc. I was that kid in the corner reading a book or doing my homework being quiet at the meetings) and my own student activities I have lost count and that isn't including when she taught in the janitor's closet to the music room (yeah, that was genius putting kids with auditory/speech issues next to a loud class!) and eventually she taught out of an A Team style van as a mobile classroom from site to site. She not only covered her district but also the private schools because even though little Billy was at private school their taxes paid yada yada yada... I don't slam schools or teachers, I look for viable answers.
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Post by 950nancy on Aug 9, 2015 18:45:04 GMT
Just the facts. No need to be catty. And I agree that A/C is an issue that needs to be addressed. There are federal funding for many energy saving projects that can be exploited. again, these buildings CANNOT be retrofitted for ac. It really doesn't matter how much money you had to throw at them. Short of tearing them down (and some are on the historical registry so they can't be torn son) and building new ones it cannot be done. And they aren't the facts. They are your interpretation based on your experiences which you have decided translates into whatvisbpa best for the world. We had several buildings that couldn't get air-conditioning. They put in coolers that helped, but they were oftentimes broken. Our building has inside rooms with no way to get an airflow at times. We aren't allowed to even keep doors open to the outside because of the Columbine shootings. School safety first. When our air breaks, as it often does, or it shuts down at noon with 3.5 hours left to go, the rooms become very hot. Kids go home sick in droves. Personally, I think this is a bit of a hot topic. People like different things and that should be allowed. If a community wants to switch to year round school, they should. If it works better for the community to keep it traditional, they should. One idea does not fit all.
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Post by RiverIsis on Aug 9, 2015 18:48:16 GMT
it actually could be a rallying cry for a better, more advanced, cost effective building for the students rather than a retrofit, especially if a school employs a renewable energy model where they are able to sell power back to the grid. I'd love a new middle school for my kid. Unfortunately we can't tear the old school down because it is protected because of its age (we can't tear the gym down either and it needs it so badly) and our district doesn't have any other land. We did just pass a bond so the improvements that can be done, will be done. Of course they are also building a horse pasture which I scratch my head at and think would make a good place for a middle school. The district I used to teach in did put a/c in all their buildings. Any new buildings automatically had it and then something like 3 schools a year got upgraded until they all had it. It can be done, especially in bigger districts, although I know the Denver School District only has 7 schools with a/c. A district nearby didn't have land but bought land to rebuild their high school. I don't know what they are going to do with their old high school. Considering it's place in the community it may be torn down by a developer and housing created. A horse pasture at school seems so strange.
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Post by 950nancy on Aug 9, 2015 18:50:09 GMT
I got out for the year on may 23. I got back this fridat, August 14. I have spent 6 full days (8-4) in pd. I will be at my school per principal request on Tuesday for 2 hours. I have worked on curriculum over the summer and I will spend this week working on my room and having stuff ready to go the minute students walk into the room. I have 12 weeks of summer, 11 is you subtract pd and I don't get paid for it. Football coaches get paid for coaching and not all are teachers. In sone studies it has been shown to have value, but in other areas it has not worked. The teachers on this thread are speaking from their knowledge of the their students, schools, and districts. There are districts around here who have gone to a 4 day week with longer days. It has worked for them, so we should do that throughout the country, right? Yes, if a 4 day week has proven benefits that outweigh other schedules and improve learning, overall satisfaction, and are a benefit to the kids, then why wouldn't we? We considered it but parents didn't have anywhere to put their kids on Fridays. The benefits, especially cost benefits, didn't matter.
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Post by Deleted on Aug 9, 2015 18:51:34 GMT
Of what I can see, studies have shown that year-round schooling works better for some students in some schools. If an individual district decides if that is what is best, that's their prerogative. I am all for local control.
But given that I am already paying record high property taxes and I have seen multiple cuts in our public schools in the 15 years I have had children in public school, I am unwilling to pay more in the way of taxes or more cuts to implement a different school year that may or may not be beneficial to the students in our district.
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Post by RiverIsis on Aug 9, 2015 18:53:37 GMT
Here's another school permutation to twist your noodle - when I lived in Oxford, Magdalene College School went 6 days a week. They did 2 full days 1 half day, 2 full days 1 half day and then Sunday off. They still had sports etc. and are one of the top non boarding schools in England.
I know it would never work here but TBH my eldest spent as much time at school after hours and on Saturdays from the parental perspective it wouldn't have made a big difference.
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Post by 950nancy on Aug 9, 2015 18:57:59 GMT
Here's another school permutation to twist your noodle - when I lived in Oxford, Magdalene College School went 6 days a week. They did 2 full days 1 half day, 2 full days 1 half day and then Sunday off. They still had sports etc. and are one of the top non boarding schools in England. I know it would never work here but TBH my eldest spent as much time at school after hours and on Saturdays from the parental perspective it wouldn't have made a big difference. I would have missed my family. I loved Saturdays with my boys. I always got to work an hour to ninety minutes before required and stayed after just as long to get it all done. There is so much individual student testing and putting it all into the computer that time consuming tasks after the kids leave take up hours. Those half days would have been killer for me. Consider my noodle twisted.
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Post by Deleted on Aug 9, 2015 19:00:06 GMT
We LOVED the full year school schedule our son had during his elementary school years. His school year started the second week of August and ended the last week of June. We only had a six week summer break which was great! It reduced our day care costs.
We also loved the breaks throughout the year....a week in October, the standard Thanksgiving break, the standard holiday break in December/January, a week in February, spring break in late March and a week in May. It gave our family the flexibility of doing family vacations during off seasons and I could also coordinate my vacation time easier to be home with him.
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Post by Deleted on Aug 9, 2015 19:21:41 GMT
Here's another school permutation to twist your noodle - when I lived in Oxford, Magdalene College School went 6 days a week. They did 2 full days 1 half day, 2 full days 1 half day and then Sunday off. They still had sports etc. and are one of the top non boarding schools in England. I know it would never work here but TBH my eldest spent as much time at school after hours and on Saturdays from the parental perspective it wouldn't have made a big difference. Did they play sports on the half days though as a lot of private schools do,especially boys private schools. BTW they had a pretty serious fire there a couple of months ago,did a lot of damage mainly to the sports hall. No one was hurt thankfully.
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Post by RiverIsis on Aug 9, 2015 19:24:08 GMT
Here's another school permutation to twist your noodle - when I lived in Oxford, Magdalene College School went 6 days a week. They did 2 full days 1 half day, 2 full days 1 half day and then Sunday off. They still had sports etc. and are one of the top non boarding schools in England. I know it would never work here but TBH my eldest spent as much time at school after hours and on Saturdays from the parental perspective it wouldn't have made a big difference. Did they play sports on the half days though as a lot of private schools do,especially boys private schools. BTW they had a pretty serious fire there a couple of months ago,did a lot of damage mainly to the sports hall. No one was hurt thankfully. I would have to ask my friend whose son went there, and that info could be out of date, but I think you are right. Oh I hadn't heard of the fire, surprised the in-laws didn't say or they did and DH didn't say. ![:rolleyes:](//storage.proboards.com/5645536/images/Ui47LhQw2NqWVWNNqtfM.jpg)
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Post by Deleted on Aug 9, 2015 19:26:21 GMT
Did they play sports on the half days though as a lot of private schools do,especially boys private schools. BTW they had a pretty serious fire there a couple of months ago,did a lot of damage mainly to the sports hall. No one was hurt thankfully. I would have to ask my friend whose son went there, and that info could be out of date, but I think you are right. Oh I hadn't heard of the fire, surprised the in-laws didn't say or they did and DH didn't say. ![:rolleyes:](//storage.proboards.com/5645536/images/Ui47LhQw2NqWVWNNqtfM.jpg) Haha I thought you were rich enough to send you son there ![:grin:](//storage.proboards.com/5645536/images/TKS2q_7siLiFtq0xPQvx.jpg)
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