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Post by kristi521 on Aug 11, 2015 14:28:35 GMT
Some of you may know that Melissa Gilbert moved to MI a couple years back. I have liked her as an actress since her "Little House on the Prairie" days. At any rate, she is running for congress in MI's 8th district. Here is a link to the story. Thoughts? Anyone else in MI close to where she lives?
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Post by annabella on Aug 11, 2015 14:47:05 GMT
She was President of the Screen Actors Guild for 5 years so I feel she has some relevant business experience. However she owes back taxes so that could be held against her.
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Post by Deleted on Aug 11, 2015 14:51:03 GMT
Has she paid her back taxes yet? I don't live in MI, but if I did, she wouldn't get my vote. We (that's the big picture We) don't need another fiscally irresponsible politician in Congress.
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Post by jonda1974 on Aug 11, 2015 16:17:51 GMT
She has back taxes? She'll fit right into Washington. Maybe she can be the Treasury Secretary. I actually like her, and some people owe back taxes, but are paying them, and some people are avoiding them. It would depend on which she was doing to me.
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Post by jeremysgirl on Aug 11, 2015 16:20:12 GMT
This is my congressional district. I most likely won't vote for her because she's a Democrat. But I didn't vote for Bishop either as he opposed gay marriage. Now that gay marriage is a moot point, I don't know if I will vote for him or not, really depends on how he does as a Congressman. But either way, the election should be interesting.
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Post by Deleted on Aug 11, 2015 16:57:58 GMT
She has back taxes? She'll fit right into Washington. Maybe she can be the Treasury Secretary. I actually like her, and some people owe back taxes, but are paying them, and some people are avoiding them. It would depend on which she was doing to me. She's a tax cheat.
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Post by jonda1974 on Aug 11, 2015 16:59:39 GMT
She has back taxes? She'll fit right into Washington. Maybe she can be the Treasury Secretary. I actually like her, and some people owe back taxes, but are paying them, and some people are avoiding them. It would depend on which she was doing to me. She's a tax cheat. Damn, and I always admired her. Guess DC is the right place for her to go then.
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Post by georgiapea on Aug 11, 2015 17:02:23 GMT
$360,000.00 seems like a lot of back taxes to me. And if she doesn't pay it now, but does so after collecting campaign funds I'll really be suspicious.
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Post by Sarah*H on Aug 11, 2015 17:03:25 GMT
Well her explanation is that she ran into trouble during her divorce and that combined with a decline in her acting opportunities resulted in an inability to pay on time. She says she's set up a payment plan. So I don't know so much that she's a tax cheat as much as she got in over head.
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Post by happymomma on Aug 11, 2015 17:44:33 GMT
Well her explanation is that she ran into trouble during her divorce and that combined with a decline in her acting opportunities resulted in an inability to pay on time. She says she's set up a payment plan. So I don't know so much that she's a tax cheat as much as she got in over head. Michigan girl here. I always liked Little House On The Prairie, and I am sure she will get many sentimental votes, or votes for being famous. But...I will not vote for her because of her tax mess. To me that shows fiscal irresponsibility and we sure don't need that. I really don't care what her excuse is. I have gotten divorced too, and also suffered at different times from serious reductions in my work hours. I still paid my taxes, because well...it's a law and it is the right thing to do. I'd bet my bottom dollar she had a lot more money than I did, so no excuse, and also probably wasn't scraping by, driving a junker vehicle, living in poverty. Sorry no free pass.
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Post by metaldancer on Aug 11, 2015 18:07:46 GMT
She can't be any worse than anybody else.
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Post by gritzi on Aug 11, 2015 18:08:39 GMT
I agree wholeheartedly!
I also agree w/HappyMomma. A divorce is no excuse! She's made millions in her lifetime, and owes more than what many people make in their lifetime. Would a common Average Joe receive the same patience & leniency from the IRS or would he/she find themselves in a jail cell for back taxes?
ETA: I just read that she owes more than $450,000. "....$112,000 tax lien from the state of California and another $360,000 from the federal government this year".
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Post by marianne on Aug 11, 2015 18:10:20 GMT
Well her explanation is that she ran into trouble during her divorce and that combined with a decline in her acting opportunities resulted in an inability to pay on time. She says she's set up a payment plan. So I don't know so much that she's a tax cheat as much as she got in over head. Michigan girl here. I always liked Little House On The Prairie, and I am sure she will get many sentimental votes, or votes for being famous. But...I will not vote for her because of her tax mess. To me that shows fiscal irresponsibility and we sure don't need that. I really don't care what her excuse is. I have gotten divorced too, and also suffered at different times from serious reductions in my work hours. I still paid my taxes, because well...it's a law and it is the right thing to do. I'd bet my bottom dollar she had a lot more money than I did, so no excuse, and also probably wasn't scraping by, driving a junker vehicle, living in poverty. Sorry no free pass. exactly that...well, except for the MI girl part. Not someone I would vote for, regardless of whether I liked her or not. Tax evasion is tax evasion, you can't white-wash it away.
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Post by jeremysgirl on Aug 11, 2015 18:10:25 GMT
@happymomma, are you in this district too? I was just curious if you were close to me.
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Post by Bitchy Rich on Aug 11, 2015 18:11:31 GMT
But...I will not vote for her because of her tax mess. To me that shows fiscal irresponsibility and we sure don't need that. I really don't care what her excuse is. I have gotten divorced too, and also suffered at different times from serious reductions in my work hours. I still paid my taxes, because well...it's a law and it is the right thing to do. I'd bet my bottom dollar she had a lot more money than I did, so no excuse, and also probably wasn't scraping by, driving a junker vehicle, living in poverty. Sorry no free pass. Totally agree with this. She didn't even voluntarily set up the payment plan. She only did it after the IRS threatened to levy.
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Post by Bitchy Rich on Aug 11, 2015 18:12:21 GMT
I also agree w/HappyMomma. A divorce is no excuse! She's made millions in her lifetime, and owes more than what many people make in their lifetime. Would a common Average Joe receive the same patience from the IRS or we he/she find themselves in a jail cell for back taxes? Ha ha. Yes, an "average Joe" would receive the same treatment - a levy. They don't jail you for not paying taxes.
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Post by gritzi on Aug 11, 2015 18:15:45 GMT
Interesting. I have a friend who was threatened with federal charges along with a warrant for owing. She was one breath away from a whole lot of trouble!Her amount was significantly less than Melissa Gilbert's.
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Post by Bitchy Rich on Aug 11, 2015 18:21:19 GMT
Tax evasion or tax fraud is different than not having the money.
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Post by happymomma on Aug 11, 2015 18:33:07 GMT
@happymomma, are you in this district too? I was just curious if you were close to me. I live way up in northern lower Michigan, about 100 miles south of the Mackinaw Bridge.
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Post by Deleted on Aug 11, 2015 18:41:20 GMT
She was President of the Screen Actors Guild for 5 years so I feel she has some relevant business experience. However she owes back taxes so that could be held against her. Yeah, right. Locally, my city voted in a commissioner who owed city, state AND federal taxes that totaled over a million dollars. The fact that he owed back taxes was well known and he was still voted in. I doubt $360,000 is going to be much of a blip on some people's radar, especially when she has said she has set up a payment plan to pay it back.
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Post by annabella on Aug 11, 2015 18:41:54 GMT
Google says her net worth is $500K (which may not be accurate but is definitely not a lot for a hollywood star, so she must be saving money now haven moved out of CA) Her tax lean is for $360K.
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Post by happymomma on Aug 11, 2015 18:43:23 GMT
Tax evasion or tax fraud is different than not having the money. Ah but...income tax is paid on the money you did make. If you don't pay it in as you go along, you have to set it aside to pay it at tax time. Back in my younger years, when I was married to my first husband, we ended up owing about $3000 at tax time because of we didn't realize they weren't taking state taxes out of my husband's paycheck. WE didn't have the money laying around for that either. So...we took out a loan and paid our taxes. We learned that lesson the hard way, but we struggled through it and scrimped and pinched pennies to pay back the loan. It was rough. We were a young family and poor. But we paid the taxes. I found this interesting and it goes along the lines of my first post on this thread: Bishop campaign spokesman Stu Sandler called Gilbert a "tax cheat," noting that she owes $360,000 in back taxes to the U.S. government and $112,000 to California. "Melissa Gilbert can afford to have a stylist for her dog, but cannot pay her taxes," he said in a statement. "Her values our out of whack with the district."
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Post by Bitchy Rich on Aug 11, 2015 18:49:18 GMT
Tax evasion or tax fraud is different than not having the money. Ah but...income tax is paid on the money you did make. If you don't pay it in as you go along, you have to set it aside to pay it at tax time. Back in my younger years, when I was married to my first husband, we ended up owing about $3000 at tax time because of we didn't realize they weren't taking state taxes out of my husband's paycheck. WE didn't have the money laying around for that either. So...we took out a loan and paid our taxes. We learned that lesson the hard way, but we struggled through it and scrimped and pinched pennies to pay back the loan. It was rough. We were a young family and poor. But we paid the taxes. I found this interesting and it goes along the lines of my first post on this thread: Bishop campaign spokesman Stu Sandler called Gilbert a "tax cheat," noting that she owes $360,000 in back taxes to the U.S. government and $112,000 to California. "Melissa Gilbert can afford to have a stylist for her dog, but cannot pay her taxes," he said in a statement. "Her values our out of whack with the district." Yes, I know how estimated tax payments work. I'm not sure why you posted it in response to my tax evasion and fraud comment.
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Post by annabella on Aug 11, 2015 18:49:36 GMT
I looked up the dog stylist thing and in an effort to make money she wrote a book about her dog last year, and in all the google pics she takes him with her in a cute tutu outfit, and that outfit is what garners press. So it makes since for the dog to have a stylist, it may have just been a one time thing or maybe the stylist is free because Melissa linked to her business, promotion from a celeb generates business. link
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Post by sharlag on Aug 11, 2015 18:55:26 GMT
So... I guess I'd never thought about how actors get paid. Not just a lump check with taxes processed like many employees get? Or maybe that's how she was paid, she just asked for none to be withheld?
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Post by happymomma on Aug 11, 2015 18:56:17 GMT
Ah but...income tax is paid on the money you did make. If you don't pay it in as you go along, you have to set it aside to pay it at tax time. Back in my younger years, when I was married to my first husband, we ended up owing about $3000 at tax time because of we didn't realize they weren't taking state taxes out of my husband's paycheck. WE didn't have the money laying around for that either. So...we took out a loan and paid our taxes. We learned that lesson the hard way, but we struggled through it and scrimped and pinched pennies to pay back the loan. It was rough. We were a young family and poor. But we paid the taxes. I found this interesting and it goes along the lines of my first post on this thread: Bishop campaign spokesman Stu Sandler called Gilbert a "tax cheat," noting that she owes $360,000 in back taxes to the U.S. government and $112,000 to California. "Melissa Gilbert can afford to have a stylist for her dog, but cannot pay her taxes," he said in a statement. "Her values our out of whack with the district." Yes, I know how estimated tax payments work. I'm not sure why you posted it in response to my tax evasion and fraud comment. I posted it as a response to the 'not having the money' part of your sentence. I was stating that if you don't have the money, you can't just not pay the taxes. It just doesn't work that way. As they say...two things you can't avoid are death and taxes, lol.
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Post by annabella on Aug 11, 2015 19:03:54 GMT
So... I guess I'd never thought about how actors get paid. Not just a lump check with taxes processed like many employees get? Or maybe that's how she was paid, she just asked for none to be withheld? Color me uninformed. I googled and found that it's bogus deductions where they get into trouble. Actors are typically treated as independent contractors, not employees. This means that for tax purposes, acting is a business. A self-employed actor may deduct any expenses that is: directly related to the acting activity ordinary and necessary, and not lavish or extravagant under the circumstances.
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Post by sharlag on Aug 11, 2015 19:06:27 GMT
So... I guess I'd never thought about how actors get paid. Not just a lump check with taxes processed like many employees get? Or maybe that's how she was paid, she just asked for none to be withheld? Color me uninformed. I googled and found that it's bogus deductions where they get into trouble. Actors are typically treated as independent contractors, not employees. This means that for tax purposes, acting is a business. A self-employed actor may deduct any expenses that is: directly related to the acting activity ordinary and necessary, and not lavish or extravagant under the circumstances. Thanks! ... or maybe she underestimated her estimates, or just didn't make those at all.
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Post by Tamhugh on Aug 11, 2015 19:09:54 GMT
Tax evasion or tax fraud is different than not having the money. Ah but...income tax is paid on the money you did make. If you don't pay it in as you go along, you have to set it aside to pay it at tax time. Back in my younger years, when I was married to my first husband, we ended up owing about $3000 at tax time because of we didn't realize they weren't taking state taxes out of my husband's paycheck. WE didn't have the money laying around for that either. So...we took out a loan and paid our taxes. We learned that lesson the hard way, but we struggled through it and scrimped and pinched pennies to pay back the loan. It was rough. We were a young family and poor. But we paid the taxes. I found this interesting and it goes along the lines of my first post on this thread: Bishop campaign spokesman Stu Sandler called Gilbert a "tax cheat," noting that she owes $360,000 in back taxes to the U.S. government and $112,000 to California. "Melissa Gilbert can afford to have a stylist for her dog, but cannot pay her taxes," he said in a statement. "Her values our out of whack with the district." You do realize that you both basically did the same thing, right? You paid yours on a payment plan via the bank and she is paying it on a payment plan directly to her creditor (in this case, the IRS). You both had fees and interest to pay back in addition to the total amount. She just cut out the middle man.
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Post by likescarrots on Aug 11, 2015 19:29:33 GMT
I also agree w/HappyMomma. A divorce is no excuse! She's made millions in her lifetime, and owes more than what many people make in their lifetime. Would a common Average Joe receive the same patience from the IRS or we he/she find themselves in a jail cell for back taxes? Ha ha. Yes, an "average Joe" would receive the same treatment - a levy. They don't jail you for not paying taxes. Tell that to Wesley Snipes. But you are right, they generally take every Avenue they can before prison.
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