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Post by PEArfect on Aug 12, 2015 5:10:47 GMT
I've never even noticed the signage when searching through the toy aisles. I'm on the "who cares" bench.
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Post by Linda on Aug 12, 2015 6:05:56 GMT
as a mum to a little girl who has often been told that she shouldn't play with _____because it's for boys and that she's wearing boys clothes...by her peers - I'm both glad that Target is making the change and sad that it probably won't make a difference. I'm frankly tired of everything from toys to clothes to movies and tv shows to books to colours being divided along gender lines.
Annabelle loves space, Star Wars(Darth is her favourite), Minecraft, Lego, Angry Birds and Star Trek. Her favourite colour is green - she also likes red, blue and orange. She's not fond of pink or yellow and purple is her least favourite. Most of her tee-shirts and pyjamas come from the 'boy' department because those are the graphics and colours she likes - not the glittery, sparkly, pink tees in the 'girls' dept. She would probably be thrilled with a Star Wars dress or a Lego themed skirt...but they don't exist (at least not at my price point or in my area). I made her a robots themed skirt and she LOVES it. All three of my children have had dolls, a toy kitchen, housekeeping toys, blocks, lego, cars/trucks/space/trains....
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Post by lucyg on Aug 12, 2015 7:15:47 GMT
The year my DD was three (which was pushing 30 years ago now) I decided I was sick of dressing her in pink, so I bought all bright colors for her that year. Red, blue, green, plaids ... no pastels. I didn't shop anywhere special, probably just at Mervyn's and Macy's. I'm not sure I could find a wardrobe for a 3yo girl in all bright colors this year. It's kind of sad. As linda says, it's all pink and sparkly. (The next year we went back to pink and purple because she wanted to. And when she was six, she refused to wear pants the entire year, only dresses. She's so cute.)
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Post by Deleted on Aug 12, 2015 13:02:04 GMT
Honestly, I don't look at signs...I glance down each aisle to see what is there.
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Post by monklady123 on Aug 12, 2015 13:11:36 GMT
I haven't read the thread yet because I'm on my way out the door. But...does Target actually say "girls' toys" and "boys' toys" on the ends of the aisles? I haven't shopped in there for awhile so I have no idea. If they do then okay get rid of that and just label the aisles "vehicles" and "dolls" and "Lego" and "whatever". If the "dolls" aisle is mostly pink, well that's on the manufacturers. Obviously they can't just randomly mix stuff -- that would be stupid and no one could find anything. So just by default there are going to be "girly-looking" aisles and "non-girly-looking" aisles.
As long as they don't touch the clothing labels I'm good. Now wouldn't that be a nightmare? rofl... (and yes, my dd knows that if she wants better quality plain colored tee-shirts she should look in the men's section).
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Post by Sarah*H on Aug 12, 2015 13:17:26 GMT
I'm glad they are doing it. I have to confess though that as a hard core Target shopper, I never noticed that aisles or sections were labeled "girls" or "boys." We also don't have Super Target so all of the kids' bedding is in one aisle. I don't think I've even noticed if there is a sign which says "Bedding." Apparently, I am not an observant shopper.
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Post by artbabe on Aug 12, 2015 13:18:15 GMT
There was actually an aisle that said "building sets" and one that said "girls' building sets". It was annoying because it implied that boy's sets were the normal ones. Also the division is just ridiculous.
I particularly hate the Lego is in two aisles. They definitely need to put the Friends sets in the Lego aisle instead of the pink aisle. I have a nephew that likes them but he doesn't want to go down the pink aisle. I buy those sets and keep them at my house. My nephews like the range of colors that the Friends sets come in. How are you supposed to make a pig if you don't have any pink bricks?
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Post by *KAS* on Aug 12, 2015 13:20:27 GMT
I could care less. I didn't even know the toy aisles were labeled "girl" and "boy." Agree, probably because I don't have kids, but I still buy kids toys as gifts. I never paid attention that they were separated by gender or color. I mean - yes the dolls are together, and the action figures are together, but I didn't realize it was labeled boy/girl for that aisle. Seems silly. Don't most people just look down the aisle and see what's there and decide if they want to walk down it?
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Post by bigbundt on Aug 12, 2015 13:30:27 GMT
I've never really noticed if they labeled them "girls" or "boys". It is pretty obvious from just glancing down the aisle by what the dominant color is. I do say that I don't like that manufacturers make toys look gender polorizing. What is wrong with just making toys look like the real thing? When I was growing up I hated toys that looked like "toys", all pink, plastic, exaggerated sizes, characters plastered all over them. I wanted toys that looked like the real thing, just smaller. That is hard to find and if you do, it is very expensive. *sigh* My daughter is the opposite of me, anything pink or sparkly is what she wants. But she was like that from the time she was a baby and was offered plenty of gender neutral toys. She really does prefer pink and girly, not just because that is what she has been told she should like. I am kind of all over the manufacturers making everything gender specific. I think they do it to make more money. Like I am looking at baby bottles right now and the ones I am considering are either blue or pink. So if someone has a girl and buys the pink bottles but then has a boy later, would they reuse the pink bottles or feel as if they should buy the blue ones? They might buy more so that means more $$$ for the manufacturer. I see it all the time with bouncy seats, strollers, swings, etc. There is one gender neutral version but the one that has all the features you want are gender specific.
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Post by ferblover on Aug 12, 2015 13:36:39 GMT
Even in the twenty years since my kids were born, "girls' toys" have gotten pinker. I don't get it. And the Lego thing is stupid. I bet lots of boys are interested in the themes of the "girl" sets, but dismiss them because of the colors. I hear many people say this in the world at large and often look at it the opposite way. I do not believe everything in life should be pink or blue by any means, but why shouldn't kids who like pink get the option of their favorite color in a toy. However if you are going to make a pink doodad I think you should offer another opposite color on the color wheel of said doodad. I feel like there is such a backlash for kids who like pink no matter who. I like a page on Facebook, Mighty Girl, but sometimes I get the feeling if you aren't liking red, being a scientist, and instead you like pink and being a scientist you are "Mighty Girl" enough. If you like pink you are to be looked down upon. If you like pink and dolls, hang it up you are not worthy. Part of the reason my daughter started to pick up Lego was because of colors that intrigued her, pink and purple. Personally the navy blue in the Friends sets is a favorite of mine. Lego has started to incorporate more color choices in the regular building sets where you just have bricks to build whatever. I like it. Pink pigs, neat green bugs are built in my house. I don't care for the rock star theme the Friends set now haves but not everything is going to appeal to everyone and if someone does like it and it gets them to pick up Lego and expand their mind, so be it! Bottom line, I don't care what Target does but it would be easier for me if they put all Lego in one aisle so as a parent I only have to visit one aisle instead of two and then have kids get distracted by other things to look at (aka try to convince Mom we need), lol!
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Post by wandawoman on Aug 12, 2015 13:51:58 GMT
Honestly, I don't look at signs...I glance down each aisle to see what is there. That's what I do. I don't go there often, but I don't remember ever seeing 'boy' / 'girl' signs and I've managed to find what I needed.
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Post by melanell on Aug 12, 2015 14:29:40 GMT
Ugh. I agree with this. The Lego sets being in 3 different aisles drives me slightly batty. Especially during the holidays when I have lists of what each kid already has and ones I know they want, and I have to keep going back & forth trying to make my choices.
Especially since there are other building sets in the main Lego aisle. Because the main Lego aisle is the "boy" one, so the "boy" mega Blocks, etc. are there, too. And perhaps some people prefer to shop that way. But my kids definitely only want Lego/Duplo, so for me, having that brand all together would make more sense.
And I agree that all of the make-believe or pretend play items being together in one or two aisles makes sense. Perhaps one pretend play with scaled down grown-up items, like grills, workbenches, kitchens, etc. and one for dress-up clothes of all sorts. But I'm sure someone else could say that it makes more sense for everything Princess to be together, including the dress-up stuff. So in some ways it's a "You can't please everyone all of the time" type thing.
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Post by Meri-Lyn on Aug 12, 2015 14:52:46 GMT
I'll leave this here. We have gone backwards, not forward. This should have not happened to begin with. Our little girls want pink, but they are taught from birth that that is what they SHOULD want. They are conditioned to desire those things. Good for Target. I'm so glad I grew up when I did. I was never a "pink" girl. I wanted my stuff to look like the stuff mom used. My Barbie Dream House was mostly yellow and orange, with a few pinks for accents. It wasn't this Pepto-Bismal explosion that I see on just about every Barbie item that's out now. I never noticed the "boy" or "girl" signs in the store before. They really are unnecessarily. I'm glad to see things grouped by category, Barbie, Lego, baby toys, etc. I think it's a smart move.
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Post by georgiapea on Aug 12, 2015 17:57:28 GMT
Bayoulj is a troll. She made a nasty comment to a Pea who just recently found the group.
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Post by Deleted on Aug 12, 2015 18:04:17 GMT
Even in the twenty years since my kids were born, "girls' toys" have gotten pinker. I don't get it. And the Lego thing is stupid. I bet lots of boys are interested in the themes of the "girl" sets, but dismiss them because of the colors. I hear many people say this in the world at large and often look at it the opposite way. I do not believe everything in life should be pink or blue by any means, but why shouldn't kids who like pink get the option of their favorite color in a toy. However if you are going to make a pink doodad I think you should offer another opposite color on the color wheel of said doodad. I feel like there is such a backlash for kids who like pink no matter who. I like a page on Facebook, Mighty Girl, but sometimes I get the feeling if you aren't liking red, being a scientist, and instead you like pink and being a scientist you are "Mighty Girl" enough. If you like pink you are to be looked down upon. If you like pink and dolls, hang it up you are not worthy. Part of the reason my daughter started to pick up Lego was because of colors that intrigued her, pink and purple. Personally the navy blue in the Friends sets is a favorite of mine. Lego has started to incorporate more color choices in the regular building sets where you just have bricks to build whatever. I like it. Pink pigs, neat green bugs are built in my house. I don't care for the rock star theme the Friends set now haves but not everything is going to appeal to everyone and if someone does like it and it gets them to pick up Lego and expand their mind, so be it! Bottom line, I don't care what Target does but it would be easier for me if they put all Lego in one aisle so as a parent I only have to visit one aisle instead of two and then have kids get distracted by other things to look at (aka try to convince Mom we need), lol! I guess to me there are three different categories--things that are pink because pink is a normal color for that thing--a dress on a doll for instance. The dresses can also be other colors, but pink is realistic because lots of little girls DO wear pink dresses. Then there are things that should have no prescribed color--blocks and legos. It should be just as normal to see them in blue as in pink. Then I think there are the ridiculous things that are never pink in real life but are manufactured that way specifically to pigeon hole their intended gender--toy vacuums, microwaves, etc, which are never pink in real life, and which are employed equally by both genders in the real world. I don't think they should never make anything pink. I just don't think there's a need for EXTRA pink on stuff that should have not been gender specific to begin with.
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Post by Deleted on Aug 12, 2015 18:07:01 GMT
I don't think it's at all difficult to shop for toys...whether at Target or a large store like Toys R' Us.
I can tell the difference between the Lego aisle and the Barbie aisle. I can spot the baby toy aisle...I don't need signage or even color.
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Post by lucyg on Aug 12, 2015 18:51:58 GMT
Bayoulj is a troll. She made a nasty comment to a Pea who just recently found the group. I don't think she actually is a troll. I think her POV is just radically different from most other peas (even your average conservative) and she isn't very good at expressing herself clearly. She may also not be entirely comfortable in the online world. She hasn't had as much experience at it as most of us.
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Post by jenkate77 on Aug 12, 2015 19:16:31 GMT
I could care less. I didn't even know the toy aisles were labeled "girl" and "boy." Me too! As long as they don't stop making the things I like to buy for my kids and my nieces and nephews, I'm perfectly capable of finding the Legos or the Barbies or the water guns.
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Post by Sam on Aug 12, 2015 19:16:33 GMT
I'm not bringing up children of my own, so in general I couldn't care less about how the PC relatives/parents/people feel about the issue. However, I was in a large store owned, ultimately, by Wallmart, the other day searching for an item traditionally seen as 'male' and I swear, the crap placed all over the place in no real order was enough for me to shake my head and walk away from it. Back in the day, I was a bit of a tom-boy and loved the whole Action Man stuff - I had a friend who had one and it was amazing- my Dad took me to the store, we went down the 'boy' aisle and picked what I wanted. I also used to babysit for local families and it's amazing how many of those little boys love to use a teeny tiny vacuum cleaner - I'm sure their parents bought them in the girls' aisle and didn't bat an eye over that. Because an aisle is 'labelled' one way does not dictate whether or not you are allowed to shop there, after all!
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Post by bluepoprocks on Aug 12, 2015 19:23:08 GMT
I'm pretty sure I can find the boys toys without pink and blue aisles.
When my one nephew was 3 his favorite color was pink which totally freaked out his dad. I think he still likes pink but he won't admit it because of his dad. I don't see the problem with boys playing with dolls or girls playing with trucks and cars.
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Post by Dalai Mama on Aug 12, 2015 19:33:37 GMT
I'm not bringing up children of my own, so in general I couldn't care less about how the PC relatives/parents/people feel about the issue. However, I was in a large store owned, ultimately, by Wallmart, the other day searching for an item traditionally seen as 'male' and I swear, the crap placed all over the place in no real order was enough for me to shake my head and walk away from it. Back in the day, I was a bit of a tom-boy and loved the whole Action Man stuff - I had a friend who had one and it was amazing- my Dad took me to the store, we went down the 'boy' aisle and picked what I wanted. I also used to babysit for local families and it's amazing how many of those little boys love to use a teeny tiny vacuum cleaner - I'm sure their parents bought them in the girls' aisle and didn't bat an eye over that. Because an aisle is 'labelled' one way does not dictate whether or not you are allowed to shop there, after all! I think that, by and large, a girl buying 'boy toys' is frowned on much less that a boy buying 'girl' toys. I have my own hypothesis as to why that is so but I'll save it for another day.
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Post by pierkiss on Aug 12, 2015 19:35:30 GMT
I think it's great! They're kids! And toys! Mix them all up and send the kids down all the aisles and see what they come up with! It'll be awesome
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Post by nurseypants on Aug 12, 2015 19:42:22 GMT
First the war on Christmas and now this? Target is not conducting itself according to biblical principles. Their executives will have to stand before God one day and explain themselves.
Hahahahaha!!
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Post by bigbundt on Aug 13, 2015 0:52:14 GMT
I think that, by and large, a girl buying 'boy toys' is frowned on much less that a boy buying 'girl' toys. I have my own hypothesis as to why that is so but I'll save it for another day. Exactly. We ran into this when we were planning my daughter's birthday party. She wanted Lalaloopsy and my DH said that no little boys would want to come to the party. So I had to somehow shoehorn Lalaloopsy into a party that would appeal to both genders so it ended up being a Lalaloopsy Movie Drive In party, I made sure to let the parents know there would be stuff for the boys, and they watched Minions for their "movie". Turns out all the little girls who RSVPed canceled at the last minute and she had ALL little boys there. They didn't care but jeez, what a PITA to plan. My daughter has been to sports, super hero, and construction themed parties and there were no concessions for her gender there. She had just has much fun as the boys!
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Post by katybee on Aug 13, 2015 1:22:01 GMT
I'll leave this here. We have gone backwards, not forward. This should have not happened to begin with. Our little girls want pink, but they are taught from birth that that is what they SHOULD want. They are conditioned to desire those things. Good for Target. I hate that every title girl toy seems to be pink or purple. It's not a feminism thing. I just don't like pink and purple that much. I already decided a long time ago that if I ever had a little girl, I absolutely would not do her room in pink. And whenever I buy clothes for any of my friends' little girls, I purposely choose something that's red or yellow or navy… So much cute stuff out there that is NOT pink or purple!
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Post by alittleintrepid on Aug 13, 2015 1:48:20 GMT
The year my DD was three (which was pushing 30 years ago now) I decided I was sick of dressing her in pink, so I bought all bright colors for her that year. Red, blue, green, plaids ... no pastels. I didn't shop anywhere special, probably just at Mervyn's and Macy's. I'm not sure I could find a wardrobe for a 3yo girl in all bright colors this year. It's kind of sad. As linda says, it's all pink and sparkly. (The next year we went back to pink and purple because she wanted to. And when she was six, she refused to wear pants the entire year, only dresses. She's so cute.) I've been back to school shopping for my five year old....totally possible to find bright colours. We've bought some bright green and blue for back to school as well as other non-pink items. The trick is to stay out of Justice.
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Post by crazy4scraps on Aug 13, 2015 4:18:33 GMT
I hate that every title girl toy seems to be pink or purple. It's not a feminism thing. I just don't like pink and purple that much. I already decided a long time ago that if I ever had a little girl, I absolutely would not do her room in pink. And whenever I buy clothes for any of my friends' little girls, I purposely choose something that's red or yellow or navy… So much cute stuff out there that is NOT pink or purple! Okay, but what if the kid genuinely LIKES that stuff? I'll admit that I like both pink and purple but I like other colors too and bought my kid a rainbow of stuff when she was little. I'm NOT girly myself. I never wear makeup, don't get my hair colored, don't wear nail polish or dresses or high heels--like EVER. I carry a utilitarian canvas purse from Duluth Trading. DD didn't have any exposure to Barbie or anything like that until she was maybe four years old. We never pushed her in any direction and we still don't. Ever since she was able to make a conscious choice on anything (around two or so) she has always gravitated toward anything pink, purple, girly, princess and glittery! It simply is who SHE is, so we roll with it. Now that she's five she has DEFINITE ideas of what she likes and what she doesn't like, and if I buy her something that I think is cute but that she doesn't like she will NOT wear it. I'm done buying her jeans because she won't wear them. The bottom line is, I'm going to spend my money on stuff that's going to get used. So if that means I have to buy her dresses, skirts, leggings and shoes with glitter and Princess or My Little Pony on them, then that's what I'm going to do. Yes, I'm the mom, but when it comes to stuff like this it's not a hill I'm going to die on. I let the kid wear what she likes within reason (and within our budget).
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Post by lumo on Aug 13, 2015 4:47:22 GMT
When DH and I were picking the bedding for DD's room before she was born, we chose a pattern with bunnies that was green, cream, and brown...very muted. I loved that bedding set. I still have the canvasses that were part of the set hanging in her room. That said, she's 7 now and loves all things pink and purple. Grandma tends to buy her clothes in those colors...So I buy clothes in other colors to balance things out
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Post by librarylady on Aug 13, 2015 17:28:14 GMT
I think this chart shows how I feel. I didn' want to overpower the board, but click on it and it is large enough to read.
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Post by Alexxussss on Aug 13, 2015 23:46:56 GMT
It's about time! Now just make the aisles a neutral color and I'll be happy!
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