brandy327
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Post by brandy327 on Aug 20, 2015 12:16:56 GMT
My 10yo dd gets cold sores. She started getting them a couple of years ago and last year when she saw the doctor, she got a prescription to take when she feels them coming on. The meds help somewhat but she's been outside in the 90+ degree temps for the last several days playing in the pool. Yesterday she came to me in the morning and said it felt like she was getting a cold sore. I gave her a pill. Within an hour, her top lip was hugely blistered. Then within the next hour, she came to me and said she was getting one on the bottom lip too. My poor little girl looks like she was hit in the mouth. It's all swollen and I KNOW how much they hurt (I get the too but not nearly as often or as bad as she does!) So she's had the meds but her lips are in bad shape. We use Medicated Blistex in the little blue tubs because it has a numbing agent of some sort. But it doesn't really help them go away. Does anyone have any suggestions? She's VERY upset since she starts school on Tuesday and she doesn't want to start school with these cold sores on her lips.
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raindancer
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Post by raindancer on Aug 20, 2015 12:22:40 GMT
I suspect she was badly sunburned and this triggered the herpes. I had that happen when I was little as well. Prevention is the best policy. Sunscreen lipbalm applied often when outdoors. I would use ice packs and ibuprofen to help the pain and swelling. My heart goes out to her. I know how badly it hurts.
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Post by teepea on Aug 20, 2015 12:24:24 GMT
Your poor girl:( I get them occasionally and they are miserable. The prescription ointment I use is Zovirax. It does help a lot if I start using it as soon as I feel one start. I think it helps to dry it faster. Nothing over the counter really helped me. I hope someone has more advice for you!
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Post by ellen on Aug 20, 2015 12:34:21 GMT
I have a prescription for Zovirax tablets that I take when I feel one starting. It has made a huge difference for me. Sometimes I don't catch it in time and I have a blister, but it heals much faster once I do start taking it. Topical Zovirax used to work for me, but eventually made no difference at all. I tried OTC meds and nothing helped.
I feel for your daughter. Cold sores are miserable.
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Post by pjaye on Aug 20, 2015 12:37:46 GMT
If she's prone to them, start her on l-lysine supplements. It's an amino-acid and it has been shown to have an affect on preventing outbreaks. She'll need to take it everyday and you can just buy it OTC because it's not a medication, just get it from the healthfood store. It really doesn't do anything to help when you already have an outbreak, the main use is to prevent one.
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Most people don't know that "cat flu" is actually a herpes virus so they even make l-lysine cat chews, my cat has been on 250mg daily for at least 5 years...so it's quite safe.
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Post by Deleted on Aug 20, 2015 12:49:47 GMT
I second the L-lysine. When my son was young, he would get huge patches going all the way down to his chin sometimes. The pediatrician tried him on several different meds, both topical and pills, but nothing worked. When we went to a new dentist, he recommended the lysine. It completely stopped the flare ups. After a few months I stopped giving it to him routinely, and only gave it to him when he would start to get a spot. Eventually, the cold sores stopped completely.
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Post by pjaye on Aug 20, 2015 12:52:47 GMT
Research shows that it does not help when there is already an outbreak, so there really is no point in waiting until an outbreak stars, it's a waste of effort and money then.
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Post by apeacalledliz on Aug 20, 2015 12:57:29 GMT
I will third the lysine, it really helps to keep the flair ups at bay. I have had good luck drying up a cold sore with toothpaste, not the gel kind, the good old paste stuff, the mint makes it burn for a bit but you can almost immediately feel it start to shrink. Just put a dab on the cold sore and leave it there.
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Post by iowgirl on Aug 20, 2015 13:08:09 GMT
Oh. Poor kid - I know exactly how she feels. I had them terrible when I was that age. Sun, stress, and who knows what would trigger them. I tried the l-lysine (I took it faithfully) and it did nothing.
There was no prescription back when I had them. When I first felt a tingle I took aspirin (I would suggest Tylenol now - since they don't recommend aspirin for kids). This reduced the "fever". I also iced the spot frequently.
I still do the same procedure, but I also apply Abreva to the area immediately now.
I still get them, but the severity is much less - almost to the point of nothing. This could be age, but I know it really helped with the aspirin and ice when I was young.
I also would put a splash of rubbing alcohol on a paper towel and dab it several times a day. This helped dry it out faster.
Gosh, I feel so bad for her - it sucks SO much!
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Post by kelbel827 on Aug 20, 2015 13:14:35 GMT
L lysine. They uses to be huge.
I also use Zovirax ointment which dries them out super fast.
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Post by Peamac on Aug 20, 2015 13:22:55 GMT
Carmex is my cold sore remedy. Whenever I feel that tingle on my lip that lets me know there's a cold sore coming, I slather on the Carmex and keep applying it before the Carmex even dries up.
I haven't had a cold sore in ages, and I use Carmex like most people use Chapstick or Vaseline.
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Post by alissa103 on Aug 20, 2015 13:25:59 GMT
You can put a drop of tea tree oil on them and it helps lessen the pain and to heal them faster. Tea tree is an antibacterial and an antiseptic. It will help dry them out. I get them sometimes and this helps so much. It will burn for a second and then there's a feeling of utter relief that lasts a few hours. You can drop the oil on a cotton swab or I just put a drop in the palm of my hand and dot it on using a finger. 3-4 times a day. If you want to be super cautious you could put a drop in a bit of olive oil or coconut oil to dilute it. (Note, I'm not an advocate for essential oils. I'm the most conservative user you'll ever meet and mostly use them to make my house smell good bc I'm allergic to chemical fragrances. But tea tree and lavender are the two oils that are workhorses and are well-known for their healing properties. Feel free to google ) I'd also give her ibuprofen to help with pain & swelling and have her ice the area as well.
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Post by Deleted on Aug 20, 2015 13:27:27 GMT
Sometimes you need more of the meds (assuming antiviral). I had a similar episode last year, called the doc and they had me up my dosage and take another round.
Call the doc who prescribed the meds for advice.
Also, be very careful applying anything! Use qtips or some other clean applicator NOT your fingers. Trust me, having given myself a raging bacterial infection on top of the cold sore is awful. I had to have one lanced as a result. I never use my fingers to apply anything as a result.
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Post by Deleted on Aug 20, 2015 13:41:47 GMT
Research shows that it does not help when there is already an outbreak, so there really is no point in waiting until an outbreak stars, it's a waste of effort and money then. It didn't waste any money-he was completely cured. Sorry if you disagree with how our dentist said to take it 20 years ago, but it worked.
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Post by annabella on Aug 20, 2015 13:51:24 GMT
We use Medicated Blistex in the little blue tubs because it has a numbing agent of some sort. But it doesn't really help them go away. Does anyone have any suggestions? She's VERY upset since she starts school on Tuesday and she doesn't want to start school with these cold sores on her lips. I suspect she's reinfecting herself by getting the virus on the chapstick, then rubbing that chapstick all around her mouth resulting in multiple outbreaks. She should also be drinking from a straw during the time as she's very contagious to herself. Medicine doesn't 100% prevent an outbreak, it lessens the look of the outbreak. L-lysine is good preventative measure but tea tree oil gives fast results in getting the outbreak to come down.
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Post by kimber731 on Aug 20, 2015 13:56:08 GMT
My lips got sunburned on Saturday (I usually wear chapstick with at least 35 SPF). By Monday, I could feel the tingle. I have been taking 4 lysine tablets every day and I never broke out.
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Post by pjaye on Aug 20, 2015 14:11:57 GMT
Research shows that it does not help when there is already an outbreak, so there really is no point in waiting until an outbreak stars, it's a waste of effort and money then. It didn't waste any money-he was completely cured. Sorry if you disagree with how our dentist said to take it 20 years ago, but it worked. Actually it's not *me* disagreeing because it's not my personal opinion...it's based on actual medical & veterinary articles I have read over many years and therefore it's the opinion of actual doctors and proper medical researchers. Did you read the article I linked? it's on the website of a University that teaches medicine. If the dentist's advice was from 20 years ago, then it's out dated no doubt things have changed quite a lot since then.
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Post by Hestia on Aug 20, 2015 14:56:22 GMT
I have ALWAYS gotten them like that and it sucks. Poor thing. Exposure to sun can cause an outbreak. The only thing that works for me is a combo of the valcyclovir pills and the acyclovir cream. She needs to stay away from chocolate, wheat and peanut butter as something in those food makes the virus multiply faster. There are other foods too, so you may want to Google it. I've tried everything everyone's mentioned so far, and honestly nothing has helped. Oh, except the lysine everyday. Also, you need to get her a new toothbrush once she has cleared up, and anything else she had used around or on her mouth, or it will just happen over and over. Do not let her touch it and touch anything else because it can spread to anywhere on the body. My step son gets them on the palm of his hand (broken skin on his palm and he touched cold sore) and if it gets in your eyes, it can lead to blindness. Ugh! Cold sores truly suck. Oh, and I have to take the pills twice a day until the cold sores are gone.
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Post by mom on Aug 20, 2015 15:12:20 GMT
I preface this by saying that I have never done this - but - I have a friend who swears that putting a bit of acetone on a cotton ball then putting the cotton ball on her sore clears them up quickly. She says it dries them up. Out of curiosity before I posted this I did a google search and tseems lihere seems to be many people who do this.
Try at your own risk - but it looks like this is something more and more people are agreeing as working.
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Post by stahija on Aug 20, 2015 15:16:27 GMT
I get them too, and 4th l-lysine! I've had good luck drying up the cold sore with toothpaste and I also grind up a l-lysine pill and put that on the outbreak area. I have found (and you can find in some research) that oranges bring on my outbreaks, and if I eat a lot of oranges that'll trigger an outbreak. You may want to see if there's something consistently that she's eating around the time of outbreak and then you can limit that. Cold sores are the worst! Good luck!
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Post by chaosisapony on Aug 20, 2015 15:17:31 GMT
I get huge cold sores on my upper lip a couple times a year. They can get so large and swollen that they go up to the base of my nostrils. So I know the pain and embarrassment of walking around with a cold sore on your face. I start using Abreva as soon as I feel them coming on and it really does help keep the sore smaller and heal faster. Without the Abreva I'm in for at least a full week of the sore, with it I can usually get them to go away in a few days.
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Post by brandy327 on Aug 20, 2015 15:50:47 GMT
Thank you ladies SOOOO much for all your sympathy and advice. I've heard about the lysine but never looked for it but I think it's time. Can I get it at Walmart or Target or does it have to be a health food type of store? She used Abreva yesterday after she took her pill but it didn't help at all. I spent $20 today on something OTC that I thought might help. We'll see if it helps.
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Post by Bridget in MD on Aug 20, 2015 16:33:33 GMT
I preface this by saying that I have never done this - but - I have a friend who swears that putting a bit of acetone on a cotton ball then putting the cotton ball on her sore clears them up quickly. She says it dries them up. Out of curiosity before I posted this I did a google search and tseems lihere seems to be many people who do this. Try at your own risk - but it looks like this is something more and more people are agreeing as working. I've never done acetone, but I've used apple cidar vineagar. Burns like a mother, one of those pleasure-pains, but I feel like it helped dry it out some too. You should be able to get lysine where all the other vitamins are (it's an amino acid, I think). I get them and now my son does too
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Post by Deleted on Aug 20, 2015 16:58:28 GMT
I have used everything listed above. If the cold sores are caused by sun overexposure, once they start they come on pretty hard but will heal up quickly. Lysine does not help in the case of sun overexposure and fever blisters. 1. Take the Zovirax pills as prescribed - two (2) pills at the first sign of break out then another two (2) pills 12 hours later. 2. Get a small tube of the Zovirax ointment. I don't care what the doctor's say about "pills are enough". They ointment helps. 3. Get a prescription for Xylocaine ointment to numb the lip. It works better than Blistex without over-drying and possibly scarring the lip. Ask me how I know about this. 4. Tea Tree oil does seem to help with better healing and keeping the lips most, but it tastes awful if you happen to get it on your tongue. A bit of lemon and lavender added to the oil mix can possibly help (I haven't tried it yet but it is on my list for the next breakout). Make sure you get a good quality oil if you go this route. Keeping this regimen up will give her better looking lips by the time school starts. Oh, and don't forget to drink LOTS of water with lemon or lime mixed in. ETA: Abreva doesn't work. If you can return it, do so because that tiny little tube is too expensive to not do anything toward healing.
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Post by joelise on Aug 20, 2015 17:10:23 GMT
I use tea tree oil as soon as I feel the tingle, this has worked for me for many years. I have used Zovirax in the past and found it quite effective, although I did feel that my cold sores became used to it and it stopped working so well.
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Post by cindyupnorth on Aug 20, 2015 17:26:30 GMT
I used the valacyclovir prescrip. 4 pills right away, then 4 more 12 hrs later. I don't blister at all, and it dries up. I definetly have triggers. One of them is sun, which sucks. I suspect that is one of your dd's. Another is stress, and my period.
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Post by brandy327 on Aug 20, 2015 17:52:45 GMT
I used the valacyclovir prescrip. 4 pills right away, then 4 more 12 hrs later. I don't blister at all, and it dries up. I definetly have triggers. One of them is sun, which sucks. I suspect that is one of your dd's. Another is stress, and my period. Overexposure to sun is one of my triggers as well so I have no doubt that it's one of hers too. She lives outside when it's nice out...she plays soccer and swims. Hopefully if I can get her started on the Lysine it'll help with the flares.
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Post by brandy327 on Aug 20, 2015 17:55:02 GMT
So I bought something called Releev - GUARANTEED to help heal. The abreva did nothing but so far this Releev has definitely helped. With one treatment, her top lip went back to normal size and her bottom lip went down drastically. She's going to keep using this to see how it works. I'll keep all of you sufferers updated with how it works long term. It was expensive though. $20 for a small little bottle.
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Post by ginacivey on Aug 20, 2015 17:55:36 GMT
use the blistex in the pot and apply with a clean finger. annabella is correct about reinfecting herself
i take 2 pills when i tingle..then two 12 hours later....
and please, keep reminding her to wash her hands - so she doesn't infect her eyes or gential region
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Post by *sprout* on Aug 20, 2015 18:06:44 GMT
Lysine definitely helps. As for a topical, I use Campo Phenique. When I apply it, I always use a toothpick. I tried using a q-tip but the ointment gets absorbed by the cotton.
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