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Post by alittleintrepid on Aug 20, 2015 20:29:04 GMT
Does anyone else think the "looking at porn" leading him to becoming unfaithful is a refusal to really take responsibility? Those smuttty pictures lead him to stray....really? He's such a tool. I hope Anna packs up her babies and finds herself a better man. No, I don't see it as a refusal to take responsibility. What you put in your mind takes root. I believe he has some serious sexual problems and I'm hoping he gets help for them and that God will make beauty out of the ashes. I'm praying for all the Duggars, including Josh. Hope that this is his rock bottom and he truly seeks help. Yes, he waited til he got caught..but isn't that how it goes with just about everyone? They hit bottom, or they get found out and it forces them to face it. Most people have some self-control.
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Post by back to *pea*ality on Aug 20, 2015 20:29:11 GMT
I said this before this new revelation - he should not be with children. I hope his wife throws him out, he is a deviant.
Makes you wonder why he thinks women are there for his pleasure, starting with his sisters. Maybe the Apple didn't fall far from the tree.
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Post by nurseypants on Aug 20, 2015 20:29:28 GMT
And what I'm saying is, no, I disagree with you, that would not have been easy. His supporters would have believed him. ...which says quite a bit about the intelligence and critical thinking skills of his supporters.
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Post by hop2 on Aug 20, 2015 20:30:01 GMT
So stating he is the biggest hypocrite ever is supposed to absolve him from these sins? Then to point out how precious his wife is while asking for prayers for his wife and family........holy crap! I wonder if there will be another round of interviews from the "family" about forgiving the wayward son. And if he really thought his wife was so precious he never would have done this thing, whatever it is he is supposed to have done, he stated he "became" unfaithful, sure that's like being just a little pregnant. Seems like he admitted to something without really admitting to anything in particular. He became unfaithful, as if he made NONE of the choices that got him there! Typical asshat cheaters justification verbiage. Text book cheaters mindset. It's never friggin their 'fault'. They just some how nebulously arrive there, not make choices to get there.
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Post by nurseypants on Aug 20, 2015 20:30:31 GMT
No, I don't see it as a refusal to take responsibility. What you put in your mind takes root. I believe he has some serious sexual problems and I'm hoping he gets help for them and that God will make beauty out of the ashes.
I'm praying for all the Duggars, including Josh. Hope that this is his rock bottom and he truly seeks help. Yes, he waited til he got caught..but isn't that how it goes with just about everyone? They hit bottom, or they get found out and it forces them to face it. Most people have some self-control. When do 'serious sexual problems' become serious character issues? Is it when you are not Christian?
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Post by LeaP on Aug 20, 2015 20:32:09 GMT
I'm going to go out on a limb and saying that I feel sorry for him. He is, or will become, the scapegoat for his whacked out insane parents. When he confessed to inappropriately touching his sisters he did not get the help he needed. Instead his parents signed on to do a reality show and swept everything under the rug. He may be sick, sick, sick but it is his parents life choices that made him that way. Many of the less sanctimonious among us would have sought help for him. I think that Jim Bob and Michelle Duggar are responsible for much if not all of what he is done.
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Post by Deleted on Aug 20, 2015 20:35:25 GMT
His supporters would have believed him. ...which says quite a bit about the intelligence and critical thinking skills of his supporters. I'm not going to disagree with you there.
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Post by freebird on Aug 20, 2015 20:35:41 GMT
I'm going to go out on a limb and saying that I feel sorry for him. He is, or will become, the scapegoat for his whacked out insane parents. When he confessed to inappropriately touching his sisters he did not get the help he needed. Instead his parents signed on to do a reality show and swept everything under the rug. He may be sick, sick, sick but it is his parents life choices that made him that way. Many of the less sanctimonious among us would have sought help for him. I think that Jim Bob and Michelle Duggar are responsible for much if not all of what he is done. I sure hope I'm not going to be held responsible for all the dumbass stuff my kids do as an adult. I'm not saying that they are raised in a manner that I think makes them be able to live in the real world, because they aren't. I just don't think you can blame his parents for decisions he knows right and wrong from as an *adult*.
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Post by annabella on Aug 20, 2015 20:43:10 GMT
Someone wrote this on their facebook page, I bet this is how the whole family feels:
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Post by tinydogmafia on Aug 20, 2015 20:48:45 GMT
His hypocrite parents knew he had a problem at age 14 and allowed him to go on his merry way all these years. These people made him wait for their first kiss at the altar! He had already molested his sisters! Unbelievable!
And now not only has he molested his sisters, but cheated on his wife. I'm no supporter of Anna because I feel she should have left this scumbag the second she found out about the molesting, but I realize she's trapped by her religion, pressure from family and most likely has little education to go out and support 4 small children. But if ever there was a moment to find yourself and protect your small children, it would be right now. She needs to grow a pair and get the hell out of dodge before the next news report we have on him is him molesting his children.
This entire situation disgusts me. Rarely do I get worked up over celebrity situations but somehow this has just struck something inside me. I feel for the molested girls and I pity his wife who is trapped in a terrible situation.
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Post by nurseypants on Aug 20, 2015 20:49:25 GMT
Someone wrote this on their facebook page, I bet this is how the whole family feels: Hasn't this whole family said they hang out at the 'throne of grace' 24/7? It doesn't seem to be terribly helpful.
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Post by mmmom on Aug 20, 2015 20:49:28 GMT
I only wish he would stop doing dumb things so we would never have to hear about the Duggars again! Unfortunately that hasn't worked for the Kardashians either. Wish the media would stop forcing both families on us!!
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Post by pierkiss on Aug 20, 2015 20:49:29 GMT
She needs to get away from him. He is a bad person. She should have left when she found out about him molesting little girls.
I will be shocked if he doesn't attempt auicide.
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Post by edie3 on Aug 20, 2015 20:49:51 GMT
she wont leave him. She is misguided, as all the women in that cult are.
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Post by nurseypants on Aug 20, 2015 20:50:51 GMT
She needs to get away from him. He is a bad person. She should have left when she found out about him molesting little girls. I will be shocked if he doesn't attempt auicide. Doubtful. Cockroaches are all about survival.
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Post by femalebusiness on Aug 20, 2015 20:50:56 GMT
Well duh. He had a gun to his head and proof, so what was he going to do? Not admit it? Admitting it is no Brownie points for him. It's not like he's being so honest. That slimeball is a sleezy sneak and a liar. Well "duh"... he could have just as easily said it wasn't him. That someone planted that info there to make it look like him but it wasn't. duh. duhhhh. No, he could not have. Ever heard of credit cards?
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Post by Deleted on Aug 20, 2015 20:53:10 GMT
Most people have some self-control. When do 'serious sexual problems' become serious character issues? Is it when you are not Christian? Being a Christian doesn't have anything to do with what I wrote. He does have some serious sexual problems. Character is based on actions so I would think it would go without saying that he has serious character issues. But by all means, let's mock Christianity here.
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Post by freebird on Aug 20, 2015 20:53:06 GMT
Clearly no one is getting what I'm saying. It's called copy and paste. Someone gets a file of information, and they PLANT the information in it, and then release the fake info. I'm saying he could have just as easily claimed that's happen. But, we know how honest hackers tend to be so I doubt no one would have believed him.
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Post by nurseypants on Aug 20, 2015 20:58:47 GMT
When do 'serious sexual problems' become serious character issues? Is it when you are not Christian? Being a Christian doesn't have anything to do with what I wrote. He does have some serious sexual problems. Character is based on actions so I would think it would go without saying that he has serious character issues. But by all means, let's mock Christianity here. I am not mocking Christianity, I am pointing out the fact that (in my experience), the profession of Christian faith gives many people a pass on their incredibly bad behavior.
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Post by LeaP on Aug 20, 2015 21:01:52 GMT
I'm going to go out on a limb and saying that I feel sorry for him. He is, or will become, the scapegoat for his whacked out insane parents. When he confessed to inappropriately touching his sisters he did not get the help he needed. Instead his parents signed on to do a reality show and swept everything under the rug. He may be sick, sick, sick but it is his parents life choices that made him that way. Many of the less sanctimonious among us would have sought help for him. I think that Jim Bob and Michelle Duggar are responsible for much if not all of what he is done. I sure hope I'm not going to be held responsible for all the dumbass stuff my kids do as an adult. I'm not saying that they are raised in a manner that I think makes them be able to live in the real world, because they aren't. I just don't think you can blame his parents for decisions he knows right and wrong from as an *adult*. But that is exactly my point, he doesn't know right from wrong. He may have when he was 14, but the boot camp, praying away therapy, royal treatment bestowed upon males, etc. mucked him up. Most parents do the best they can and should not be held to account for dumbass adult kids, but the Duggars swept his problems under the carpet and for that they should be held to account for his choices as an adult.
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Post by Deleted on Aug 20, 2015 21:01:53 GMT
she wont leave him. She is misguided, as all the women in that cult are. Yep, she won't be. Anna won't be leaving Josh Disgusting, but hey, if she wants to stay and they want to work through it, more power to them. However, I can't help but to wonder WHAT will make her leave? Josh molesting his own children? Child porn? Murder?
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Post by Deleted on Aug 20, 2015 21:03:24 GMT
Isn't it the hypocrisy that bothers us the most? The idea that someone preaches one idea of morality while completely behaving in exactly the opposite manner?? I think you may be on to something. When a person in the public eye is found to be cheating on their spouse, people generally tsk, tsk and then move on. Politicians who cheat are routinely voted back into office. Celebrities who cheat don't lose their box office appeal. Athletes who cheat still make the big bucks and have legions of fans. So yes, I believe it's the hypocrisy, not the behavior, that outrages most people. Though in Josh's case, there was plenty to be outraged about before this latest revelation.
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Post by nurseypants on Aug 20, 2015 21:05:37 GMT
I sure hope I'm not going to be held responsible for all the dumbass stuff my kids do as an adult. I'm not saying that they are raised in a manner that I think makes them be able to live in the real world, because they aren't. I just don't think you can blame his parents for decisions he knows right and wrong from as an *adult*. But that is exactly my point, he doesn't know right from wrong. He may have when he was 14, but the boot camp, praying away therapy, royal treatment bestowed upon males, etc. mucked him up. Most parents do the best they can and should not be held to account for dumbass adult kids, but the Duggars swept his problems under the carpet and for that they should be held to account for his choices as an adult. If he didn't know right from wrong he would not be a secret website. Nor would he be referring to himself as a hypocrite.
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Post by epeanymous on Aug 20, 2015 21:10:43 GMT
Well, I guess if your mindset is that it is up to the women around you not to wear clothes that tempt you, the culture around you not to expose you to any images of attractive women, your community not to let people marry who they love or be who they are because it interferes with your own Godly homeostasis, etc., of course it is not your fault if you molest your siblings and cheat on your wife.
Gross. I hope Anna cashes in now with some tell-all tabloid stories for a zillion internet dollars, since her family and culture have made it unlikely that she has another way out of her marriage that will let her support her four young children.
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Post by scrappinmama on Aug 20, 2015 21:13:03 GMT
She will never leave him. She has been brainwashed.
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Post by myboysnme on Aug 20, 2015 21:15:08 GMT
I don't know if it's real or fake, and I am totally pissed about hackers getting to commit their crimes and then get free media for it. However, if it is true, if I was the wife reading what my husband wants from another woman I would be so humiliated. Like if he wrote he likes oral sex - well if I did it what is that saying about me? If I didn't do it, that means he needs it so much he has to go get it from a stranger?
Well people have had affairs as long as there have been people. Some people's affairs are more titillating than others, especially celebrity types. I would not even be interested in a story about most people's affairs but for some reason the Duggers just suck me in - like a cult follower!
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Post by birukitty on Aug 20, 2015 21:16:27 GMT
I'm going to go out on a limb and saying that I feel sorry for him. He is, or will become, the scapegoat for his whacked out insane parents. When he confessed to inappropriately touching his sisters he did not get the help he needed. Instead his parents signed on to do a reality show and swept everything under the rug. He may be sick, sick, sick but it is his parents life choices that made him that way. Many of the less sanctimonious among us would have sought help for him. I think that Jim Bob and Michelle Duggar are responsible for much if not all of what he is done. I see what you are saying here and agree with most of it. When Josh first assaulted his sisters and went to his parents and told them what he'd done, they should have taken him to the proper therapists, doctors whoever deals with this sort of thing, not to mention separate him from his sisters completely. If this had been done the first time he'd confessed to them, Josh perhaps wouldn't be where he is now. Certainly the sisters wouldn't have gotten assaulted repeatedly. Josh needed the right therapy at that time, and the girls needed separation (having Josh out of the home) and protection from their brother until the therapy was finished however long that took. But, and it's a big but, he's an adult now-and what he does as an adult is his fault. Yes, I do still blame the parents. Their f'uped ideas of a "let's pray it out" and go do some manual labour, and he's all cured contributed to what Josh is today. Certainly. But Josh also is too blame for what he did-he is in control of what he does. He makes the decisions whether to cross that line, and he did. Mostly I feel for Anna and the children. They are the innocents here and the most vulnerable. Especially those kids. I feel for Anna because the poor girl is brainwashed and really doesn't see the forest for the trees. I want to yank her out of that house with the kids, sit her down and explain to her exactly what her options can be, what kind of life she could have, and what a danger her children are in. As a Mom I know Anna's instinct are to protect her kids, but right now she's so brainwashed she thinks Josh can do no wrong, and all of this must be lies, or if he did well, surely it can be forgiven if they just pray hard enough and he didn't mean it. Debbie in MD.
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Post by AN on Aug 20, 2015 21:16:46 GMT
This dude is the worst and the Duggars are in a cult. I'm embarrassed I ever "defended" them (long before the molestation stuff ever came out, they just seemed like a nice, if non-mainstream, family to me). As I've learned more about AIT/Gothard, it truly is disturbing.
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Post by anniebygaslight on Aug 20, 2015 21:21:52 GMT
I take back my scepticism in another thread. The man is an arsehole.
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Post by hop2 on Aug 20, 2015 21:30:00 GMT
Isn't it the hypocrisy that bothers us the most? The idea that someone preaches one idea of morality while completely behaving in exactly the opposite manner?? I think you may be on to something. When a person in the public eye is found to be cheating on their spouse, people generally tsk, tsk and then move on. Politicians who cheat are routinely voted back into office. Celebrities who cheat don't lose their box office appeal. Athletes who cheat still make the big bucks and have legions of fans. So yes, I believe it's the hypocrisy, not the behavior, that outrages most people. Though in Josh's case, there was plenty to be outraged about before this latest revelation. I'm kind of outraged by the fact that he is STILL leaning toward being a pedophile. I hope/wish they could investigate anyone he hooked up with on that website and verify ages. Because after the molestation of his sisters, and the lack of appropriate action at that time, the words " I like someone I can teach" from his Ashley Madison profile seem very odd. I flippantly read that article yesterday with a 'whatever more Duggars crap' attitude until I got to that line. That phrase and it's possible hidden meaning just made me ill. its hard to let that go knowing his past tendencies. He ought to be in jail right next to Fogel.
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