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Post by Deleted on Sept 22, 2015 4:00:57 GMT
Well let's be clear here. You feel President Obama's views are in incompatible with the constitution but it's your view of the constitution that may not be what the constitution was originally intended to mean. In fact I'm pretty sure your version of the constitution would have the Founding Fathers rolling in their graves. Yes I do. It's your view on it that is mistaken. you should study up on it. Read some papers written by our FFs - try Joseph Story, Benjamin Rush, Noah Webster, John Adams, G Washington, - it's a long list.
I think that'd cause you to roll over in a grave - if you were in one. It might drive you to drink tho.
and to expand on lynlam's post, his father was a communist, as was his mentor - and as is his good friend Valerie Jarrett. Her FFIL (and neighbor growing up) was often visited by Frank M Davis - and a young Obama.
I don't know how to break this to you but just because someone spends time with another person does not mean they are embracing their ideals. It just means they are exposing themselves to all different kind of ideas that gives them an understanding of how other people live. Case in point is my family. My dad was as conservative as you could get. As were all his brothers and sisters. But yet my siblings and I are all liberals. In fact my sister is even more to the left then I am. You know I think I really disappointed my Uncle when he sent me talking points to share with my friends so they wouldn't vote for President Obama in 2008 and I told him that I had already voted for President Obama by mail. So see just because you spend time around someone doesn't mean you are going to adopt their views. You also shouldn't assume I have not read any books about the constitution. Like I said if the Founding Fathers knew how lynlam and her crowd have interpreted the constitution they would indeed roll over in their collective graves.
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Post by Deleted on Sept 22, 2015 4:38:42 GMT
It's your view on it that is mistaken. you should study up on it. Read some papers written by our FFs - try Joseph Story, Benjamin Rush, Noah Webster, John Adams, G Washington, - it's a long list.
I think that'd cause you to roll over in a grave - if you were in one. It might drive you to drink tho.
and to expand on lynlam's post, his father was a communist, as was his mentor - and as is his good friend Valerie Jarrett. Her FFIL (and neighbor growing up) was often visited by Frank M Davis - and a young Obama.
I don't know how to break this to you but just because someone spends time with another person does not mean they are embracing their ideals. It just means they are exposing themselves to all different kind of ideas that gives them an understanding of how other people live. Case in point is my family. My dad was as conservative as you could get. As were all his brothers and sisters. But yet my siblings and I are all liberals. In fact my sister is even more to the left then I am. You know I think I really disappointed my Uncle when he sent me talking points to share with my friends so they wouldn't vote for President Obama in 2008 and I told him that I had already voted for President Obama by mail. So see just because you spend time around someone doesn't mean you are going to adopt their views. That's pretty much the entire purpose of a mentor.
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Post by grinningcat on Sept 22, 2015 11:17:18 GMT
I don't know how to break this to you but just because someone spends time with another person does not mean they are embracing their ideals. It just means they are exposing themselves to all different kind of ideas that gives them an understanding of how other people live. Case in point is my family. My dad was as conservative as you could get. As were all his brothers and sisters. But yet my siblings and I are all liberals. In fact my sister is even more to the left then I am. You know I think I really disappointed my Uncle when he sent me talking points to share with my friends so they wouldn't vote for President Obama in 2008 and I told him that I had already voted for President Obama by mail. So see just because you spend time around someone doesn't mean you are going to adopt their views. That's pretty much the entire purpose of a mentor. Really? I don't think so at all. A mentor isn't someone who creates a clone of themselves in the protegee. The mentor is there to encourage the protegee to grow and develop and become a better person than they were before the mentoring began. I've never heard of someone thinking that a mentor is trying to clone themselves through the protegee.
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Post by AmeliaBloomer on Sept 22, 2015 11:53:06 GMT
That's pretty much the entire purpose of a mentor. Really? I don't think so at all. A mentor isn't someone who creates a clone of themselves in the protegee. The mentor is there to encourage the protegee to grow and develop and become a better person than they were before the mentoring began. I've never heard of someone thinking that a mentor is trying to clone themselves through the protegee. Hold on. Who are we talking about? Who is this mentor of the president, and when?
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Post by grinningcat on Sept 22, 2015 11:56:15 GMT
Really? I don't think so at all. A mentor isn't someone who creates a clone of themselves in the protegee. The mentor is there to encourage the protegee to grow and develop and become a better person than they were before the mentoring began. I've never heard of someone thinking that a mentor is trying to clone themselves through the protegee. Hold on. Who are we talking about? Who is this mentor of the president, and when? I am only responding to the statement that the entire purpose of a mentor is that the protegee is embracing the ideals of the mentor as they spend time together. Nothing to do with the president.
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Post by sweetpeasmom on Sept 22, 2015 12:29:43 GMT
Maybe Dr. Carson doesn't like the punishment of homosexual's that many Muslims believe in, say for instance death, prison etc. This is it exactly. Here is a post that a friend shared on facebook from Dr Carson. This was from his page - I wanted to get back to answering questions tonight sent in by you guys. Remember, you can send in your questions via email by sending it to AskBen@BenCarson.com. Before I get started, I wanted to thank the hundreds of thousands of you that sent birthday greetings. I was touched and deeply appreciative. The first issue I want to deal with tonight is the stories today about my comments yesterday when I was asked if I would support a hypothetical Muslim candidate for President. I responded “I would not advocate for that” and I went on to say that many parts of Sharia Law are not compatible with the Constitution. I was immediately attacked by some of my Republican peers and nearly every Democrat alive. Know this, I meant exactly what I said. I could never support a candidate for President of the United States that was Muslim and had not renounced the central tenant of Islam: Sharia Law. Those Republicans that take issue with my position are amazing. Under Islamic Law, homosexuals – men and women alike – must be killed. Women must be subservient. And people following other religions must be killed. I know that there are many peaceful Muslims who do not adhere to these beliefs. But until these tenants are fully renounced…I cannot advocate any Muslim candidate for President. …I also can’t advocate supporting Hillary Clinton either by the way.
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Post by Deleted on Sept 22, 2015 13:16:31 GMT
Maybe Dr. Carson doesn't like the punishment of homosexual's that many Muslims believe in, say for instance death, prison etc. This is it exactly. Here is a post that a friend shared on facebook from Dr Carson. This was from his page - I wanted to get back to answering questions tonight sent in by you guys. Remember, you can send in your questions via email by sending it to AskBen@BenCarson.com. Before I get started, I wanted to thank the hundreds of thousands of you that sent birthday greetings. I was touched and deeply appreciative. The first issue I want to deal with tonight is the stories today about my comments yesterday when I was asked if I would support a hypothetical Muslim candidate for President. I responded “I would not advocate for that” and I went on to say that many parts of Sharia Law are not compatible with the Constitution. I was immediately attacked by some of my Republican peers and nearly every Democrat alive. Know this, I meant exactly what I said. I could never support a candidate for President of the United States that was Muslim and had not renounced the central tenant of Islam: Sharia Law. Those Republicans that take issue with my position are amazing. Under Islamic Law, homosexuals – men and women alike – must be killed. Women must be subservient. And people following other religions must be killed. I know that there are many peaceful Muslims who do not adhere to these beliefs. But until these tenants are fully renounced…I cannot advocate any Muslim candidate for President. After reading this, it makes me even more disgusted about his comments. I H.A.T.E. when people like to take EXTREME cases and paste them over a whole group of people or religion as if they are ALL the same. There are many homosexuals here in Morocco and I don't know ANY that have been put to death. I am sick to death of right wingers bleating that all Muslims want Sharia Law as the law of the land in the States. That is simply a lie.
But help me to understand how those like Dr. Carson who hold to right wing Christian beliefs, how has that been compatible with the Constitution? You need not look any further than the issue of "gay marriage" as an example. Again, the radical crazy nut jobs that behead the people in the name of Islam or not TRUE Muslims. Stop trying to make it so.
I see no difference in how he would change laws to favor his religion and how he would not support someone that may or may not enact laws to favor their religion.
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Post by raindancer on Sept 22, 2015 13:28:53 GMT
Maybe Dr. Carson doesn't like the punishment of homosexual's that many Muslims believe in, say for instance death, prison etc. This is it exactly. Here is a post that a friend shared on facebook from Dr Carson. This was from his page - I wanted to get back to answering questions tonight sent in by you guys. Remember, you can send in your questions via email by sending it to AskBen@BenCarson.com. Before I get started, I wanted to thank the hundreds of thousands of you that sent birthday greetings. I was touched and deeply appreciative. The first issue I want to deal with tonight is the stories today about my comments yesterday when I was asked if I would support a hypothetical Muslim candidate for President. I responded “I would not advocate for that” and I went on to say that many parts of Sharia Law are not compatible with the Constitution. I was immediately attacked by some of my Republican peers and nearly every Democrat alive. Know this, I meant exactly what I said. I could never support a candidate for President of the United States that was Muslim and had not renounced the central tenant of Islam: Sharia Law. Those Republicans that take issue with my position are amazing. Under Islamic Law, homosexuals – men and women alike – must be killed. Women must be subservient. And people following other religions must be killed. I know that there are many peaceful Muslims who do not adhere to these beliefs. But until these tenants are fully renounced…I cannot advocate any Muslim candidate for President. …I also can’t advocate supporting Hillary Clinton either by the way. This doesn't make it better it just makes him sound like a big it AND a hypocrite. Anytime a Christian takes issue with do trine from Islam that mirrors there own doctrine but can't see it, I think they are intellectually lazy and/or not very smart. Either way, not my idea of leadership material.
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Post by redhana on Sept 22, 2015 13:42:54 GMT
I get so depressed when I read the comments on Dr. Carson's FB page. So much racism that's not even veiled anymore.
For those who keep claiming Obama is a Muslim (and who believe all Muslims want Sharia Law) - how do they reconcile the fact that many of the Obama policies (gay marriage for one) are in direct contradiction of Sharia Law? The disconnect is unblievable.
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Post by carly on Sept 22, 2015 14:01:48 GMT
This is it exactly. Here is a post that a friend shared on facebook from Dr Carson. This was from his page - I wanted to get back to answering questions tonight sent in by you guys. Remember, you can send in your questions via email by sending it to AskBen@BenCarson.com. Before I get started, I wanted to thank the hundreds of thousands of you that sent birthday greetings. I was touched and deeply appreciative. The first issue I want to deal with tonight is the stories today about my comments yesterday when I was asked if I would support a hypothetical Muslim candidate for President. I responded “I would not advocate for that” and I went on to say that many parts of Sharia Law are not compatible with the Constitution. I was immediately attacked by some of my Republican peers and nearly every Democrat alive. Know this, I meant exactly what I said. I could never support a candidate for President of the United States that was Muslim and had not renounced the central tenant of Islam: Sharia Law. Those Republicans that take issue with my position are amazing. Under Islamic Law, homosexuals – men and women alike – must be killed. Women must be subservient. And people following other religions must be killed. I know that there are many peaceful Muslims who do not adhere to these beliefs. But until these tenants are fully renounced…I cannot advocate any Muslim candidate for President. After reading this, it makes me even more disgusted about his comments. I H.A.T.E. when people like to take EXTREME cases and paste them over a whole group of people or religion as if they are ALL the same. There are many homosexuals here in Morocco and I don't know ANY that have been put to death. I am sick to death of right wingers bleating that all Muslims want Sharia Law as the law of the land in the States. That is simply a lie.
But help me to understand how those like Dr. Carson who hold to right wing Christian beliefs, how has that been compatible with the Constitution? You need not look any further than the issue of "gay marriage" as an example. Again, the radical crazy nut jobs that behead the people in the name of Islam or not TRUE Muslims. Stop trying to make it so.
I see no difference in how he would change laws to favor his religion and how he would not support someone that may or may not enact laws to favor their religion.
I know, me too haha. I am glad you wouldn't do that.
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Post by anxiousmom on Sept 22, 2015 14:15:54 GMT
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I see no difference in how he would change laws to favor his religion and how he would not support someone that may or may not enact laws to favor their religion.
Ironic, isn't it? 
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Post by sweetpeasmom on Sept 22, 2015 15:19:10 GMT
How is this any different than if a Christian American went to an Isalmic country to and try and run for office? Do you think they would embrace someone that didn't share their ideals?
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Post by raindancer on Sept 22, 2015 15:22:03 GMT
How is this any different than if a Christian American went to an Isalmic country to and try and run for office? Do you think they would embrace someone that didn't share their ideals? Well since we aren't a "Christian country" I don't think your hypothetical holds much water. Not to mention the fact that you can't be anything but an American born as a citizen to run for president in this country.
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Post by Mystie on Sept 22, 2015 15:33:53 GMT
Carson: I know that there are many peaceful Muslims who do not adhere to these beliefs. But until these tenants are fully renounced…I cannot advocate any Muslim candidate for President.
If there were no other reason not to vote for this guy the fact that he doesn't know the difference between "tenants" and "tenets" would be enough for me.
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Post by jennyap on Sept 22, 2015 15:47:46 GMT
Carson: I know that there are many peaceful Muslims who do not adhere to these beliefs. But until these tenants are fully renounced…I cannot advocate any Muslim candidate for President. If there were no other reason not to vote for this guy the fact that he doesn't know the difference between "tenants" and "tenets" would be enough for me.  I'm so glad I wasn't the only one thinking that. One of my pet peeves!
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Post by lucyg on Sept 22, 2015 15:59:41 GMT
Considering the inherent violence and narrowness of the Levitical laws from our very own Judeo-Christian Bible, I'm surprised anyone would take issue with Sharia law that no one is even trying to enforce in this country.
It's just one more excuse to show bigotry against the "others."
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Post by raindancer on Sept 22, 2015 16:05:07 GMT
Considering the inherent violence and narrowness of the Levitical laws from our very own Judeo-Christian Bible, I'm surprised anyone would take issue with Sharia law that no one is even trying to enforce in this country. It's just one more excuse to show bigotry against the "others." Particularly how those very same Levitical laws are being used to harass and halt people from their civil rights as we speak, in this country right now. Do you Christians want to be the pot or the kettle today?
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Post by Zee on Sept 22, 2015 16:10:04 GMT
I don't want a Muslim president either, or not one that feels he has to identify himself that way as a candidate. What I'd REALLY like is a society and an election that doesn't focus on religion at all.
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Post by Dalai Mama on Sept 22, 2015 16:10:34 GMT
How is this any different than if a Christian American went to an Isalmic country to and try and run for office? Do you think they would embrace someone that didn't share their ideals? Is that the standard to which you want to hold your country?
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Post by Deleted on Sept 22, 2015 18:11:52 GMT
That's pretty much the entire purpose of a mentor. Really? I don't think so at all. A mentor isn't someone who creates a clone of themselves in the protegee. The mentor is there to encourage the protegee to grow and develop and become a better person than they were before the mentoring began. I've never heard of someone thinking that a mentor is trying to clone themselves through the protegee. I never said anything about the purpose of a mentor being to clone themselves. If you're surrounded by people with certain ideals and then choose at many points in your life to continue to surround yourself with people that hold those same ideals, don't kid yourself that you aren't embracing at least some of those ideals. And this isn't to debate whether or not he's socialist, communist, marxist or any other ist.
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Post by grinningcat on Sept 22, 2015 18:54:45 GMT
Really? I don't think so at all. A mentor isn't someone who creates a clone of themselves in the protegee. The mentor is there to encourage the protegee to grow and develop and become a better person than they were before the mentoring began. I've never heard of someone thinking that a mentor is trying to clone themselves through the protegee. I never said anything about the purpose of a mentor being to clone themselves. If you're surrounded by people with certain ideals and then choose at many points in your life to continue to surround yourself with people that hold those same ideals, don't kid yourself that you aren't embracing at least some of those ideals. And this isn't to debate whether or not he's socialist, communist, marxist or any other ist. I'm not debating whether Obama or anyone else is any kind of ist. I'm debating your theory that being a mentor is to force a protegee to embrace their ideals. The protegee may or may not embrace them, but it is not a given.
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Post by Deleted on Sept 22, 2015 19:10:17 GMT
After reading this, it makes me even more disgusted about his comments. I H.A.T.E. when people like to take EXTREME cases and paste them over a whole group of people or religion as if they are ALL the same. There are many homosexuals here in Morocco and I don't know ANY that have been put to death. I am sick to death of right wingers bleating that all Muslims want Sharia Law as the law of the land in the States. That is simply a lie.
But help me to understand how those like Dr. Carson who hold to right wing Christian beliefs, how has that been compatible with the Constitution? You need not look any further than the issue of "gay marriage" as an example. Again, the radical crazy nut jobs that behead the people in the name of Islam or not TRUE Muslims. Stop trying to make it so.
I see no difference in how he would change laws to favor his religion and how he would not support someone that may or may not enact laws to favor their religion.
I know, me too haha. I am glad you wouldn't do that. Correct me if I am wrong, but is it not right-wing activist that push the idea of all Muslims want Sharia law. Please take note that I did not say ALL right-wing. I do not believe all Republicans are right-wing either. Not really seeing your "Gotcha!"
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Post by Deleted on Sept 22, 2015 19:28:04 GMT
I never said anything about the purpose of a mentor being to clone themselves. If you're surrounded by people with certain ideals and then choose at many points in your life to continue to surround yourself with people that hold those same ideals, don't kid yourself that you aren't embracing at least some of those ideals. And this isn't to debate whether or not he's socialist, communist, marxist or any other ist. I'm not debating whether Obama or anyone else is any kind of ist. I know you haven't, just didn't want it to go there. I'm debating your theory that being a mentor is to force a protegee to embrace their ideals. That is not a theory you can attribute to me nor has anyone here said that. Except you.
The protegee may or may not embrace them, but it is not a given. True, it's not a given, but if they aren't embracing any of their ideals, what an incredible waste of time the mentorship has been and you've picked the wrong mentor. Given that Obama has chosen to surround himself with the people holding many of the same ideals, I don't think that was the case for him.
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Post by Deleted on Sept 22, 2015 19:31:20 GMT
How is this any different than if a Christian American went to an Isalmic country to and try and run for office? Do you think they would embrace someone that didn't share their ideals? It is different because AMERICA is set up as a democracy. Trying to compare theocratic governments to America is NOT the same thing. I can guarantee that if a Muslim ever made it to the level of running for President, they would have long before shed any "ties" to Sharia law. IMO, most politicians are shady as hell and have lost most of their noble aspirations. What most people do not Seem to understand is that Sharia Law to most Muslims are the rules that govern your life. For example, how you would treat your wife, inheritance and things of that nature. Much like the "laws" from the Old Testament. ALL the Muslims I know do not even utter "Sharia Law". Everyone seems to follow the Quran and Islam in their way. Just like you have so many different ways of Christianity and Judaism. You have those that are orthodox and those that are not. If if you look at the Old Testament there are verses about killing people. These books were written thousands of years ago in a different time. But any one with a lick of common sense should know you don't go around killing people because they don't believe. It it should be NO ONE'S business how you find God/Allah/Yahweh, for he is one and the same.
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Post by AmeliaBloomer on Sept 22, 2015 22:10:56 GMT
Maybe Dr. Carson doesn't like the punishment of homosexual's that many Muslims believe in, say for instance death, prison etc. This is it exactly. Here is a post that a friend shared on facebook from Dr Carson. This was from his page - Know this, I meant exactly what I said. I could never support a candidate for President of the United States that was Muslim and had not renounced the central tenant of Islam: Sharia Law.
He wants any Muslim candidate to "renounce" Sharia law? Oh, dear. The words "public spectacle" comes to mind.
To be fair, let's just have a televised event for all candidates. -Round 1: Religion. Candidate Al-Muslim renounces Sharia Law; Candidate Cathy Catholic renounces papal infallibility; Candidate Jerome Jewish renounces that eye-for-an-eye thing; Candidate Prudence Protestant renounces... -Round 2: Heritage. Candidate Petrovsky renounces Putin; Candidate Murphy renounces Sinn Fein.. Candidate Schneider renounces... -Round 3: Dealer's Choice. Audience members ask candidates to renounce things from the entire history/scope of the candidates' religions that just plain bug them...
...for the finale, everybody can renounce Satan and then throw a few weighted teen girls in the river and see if they float.
Then we'll all grab pitchforks and go evict that pesky Muslim tenant who's behind in his rent. 
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Post by Deleted on Sept 23, 2015 2:29:36 GMT
^^^^^^^^^ Why don't they renounce their mothers' womb while their at it!!!!
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Post by Skypea on Sept 23, 2015 9:00:31 GMT
I think it's idiocy to believe that Islam is the same as Christianity, or even atheism. It is not Christians or atheists causing bombings, genocide, rapes, Slavery and mass migrations of "refugees" around the world. But the beauty of our Constitution, based upon judeo-Christianity, is that it protects people of all faiths within our shores. At least it is supposed to. I'm not so sure lately. I would not advocate for a Muslim to be president either. one could run, but I wouldn't support or vote for them, because I would have too many reservations about how their religious upbringing affected their world view. Which is they exact thing I said about Obama from the get go - that his upbringing in a family of leftists zealots and anti- American/anti-white mentors colored his world view in a way that is and has proven to be completely incompatible with the constitiution. First off, I find it laughable that you lay all the ills of the world at the feet of Islam. I could take each one of those horrific acts and apply them to virtually every religion. The fact is that when people commit such horrors in the name of ANY religion of God, they are perverting that religion to suit their own whacked ideology.
Secondly, point me to where our Constitution is "based" on Christianity. Correct me if I am wrong, but "Jesus" and "Christianity" appear NO WHERE in the Constitution. Sure our Founding Fathers may have been Christian, BUT they specifically authored said document to give this country freedom FROM religion. In a sense, to protect, people like me and my family from people like you who seek to elevate your religion above anyone else.
I am an American. Born and raised. I served in the military and defended the Constitution and this country. I sure would hope that you are not implying that being Muslim is anti-American.
read the DOI - when you see 'Providence' that refers to God. Natural or law of nature - God's laws.
the constitution itself is guided by Biblical principles. Even down to the 3 branches of government.
the constitution definitely was not authored to give us freedom FROM religion. There is nothing in it about freedom FROM religion or separation of church and state.
GW had each soldier given a Bible. Encouraged them to attend church on Sunday. Who originally paid for military chaplains? our congress endorsed a Bible for our schools.
If you do even a little digging back into the FFs documents you'll find out what is taught in schools today (and often said here) is not true.
read up on SCJ Joseph Story's writings. John Adams. Benjamin Rush, Noah Webster, James Madison. About half of those who signed the constitution were ministers - who regularly held church svcs - in the congressional offices. Have you read Washington's inaugural address? his farewell address? Often these aren't taught in schools today.
There's also a program on NRB (378 on directv) on I think Thurs nights on the constitution and our FFs. It's very informative - but also light hearted by a family home schooling their kids. It's by a former congressman from TX - Rick Green and his kids.
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Post by Skypea on Sept 23, 2015 9:02:58 GMT
It's your view on it that is mistaken. you should study up on it. Read some papers written by our FFs - try Joseph Story, Benjamin Rush, Noah Webster, John Adams, G Washington, - it's a long list.
I think that'd cause you to roll over in a grave - if you were in one. It might drive you to drink tho.
and to expand on lynlam's post, his father was a communist, as was his mentor - and as is his good friend Valerie Jarrett. Her FFIL (and neighbor growing up) was often visited by Frank M Davis - and a young Obama.
I don't know how to break this to you but just because someone spends time with another person does not mean they are embracing their ideals. It just means they are exposing themselves to all different kind of ideas that gives them an understanding of how other people live. Case in point is my family. My dad was as conservative as you could get. As were all his brothers and sisters. But yet my siblings and I are all liberals. In fact my sister is even more to the left then I am. You know I think I really disappointed my Uncle when he sent me talking points to share with my friends so they wouldn't vote for President Obama in 2008 and I told him that I had already voted for President Obama by mail. So see just because you spend time around someone doesn't mean you are going to adopt their views. You also shouldn't assume I have not read any books about the constitution. Like I said if the Founding Fathers knew how lynlam and her crowd have interpreted the constitution they would indeed roll over in their collective graves. again, if they knew what you believe about the constitution and that you voted for DBO, they would roll over in their graves.
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Post by Skypea on Sept 23, 2015 9:10:53 GMT
This is it exactly. Here is a post that a friend shared on facebook from Dr Carson. This was from his page - Know this, I meant exactly what I said. I could never support a candidate for President of the United States that was Muslim and had not renounced the central tenant of Islam: Sharia Law.
He wants any Muslim candidate to "renounce" Sharia law? Oh, dear. The words "public spectacle" comes to mind.
To be fair, let's just have a televised event for all candidates. -Round 1: Religion. Candidate Al-Muslim renounces Sharia Law; Candidate Cathy Catholic renounces papal infallibility; Candidate Jerome Jewish renounces that eye-for-an-eye thing; Candidate Prudence Protestant renounces... -Round 2: Heritage. Candidate Petrovsky renounces Putin; Candidate Murphy renounces Sinn Fein.. Candidate Schneider renounces... -Round 3: Dealer's Choice. Audience members ask candidates to renounce things from the entire history/scope of the candidates' religions that just plain bug them...
...for the finale, everybody can renounce Satan and then throw a few weighted teen girls in the river and see if they float.
Then we'll all grab pitchforks and go evict that pesky Muslim tenant who's behind in his rent. 
your post shows lack of understanding on your part. Is it about all things constitutional? Sharia Law? or do you endorse Sharia Law? killing homosexuals, punishing females if they are raped? forcing others to become Muslim, pay a tax not to or die?
are those non negotiable beliefs of the RCC? Judaism? any other religion you can think of?
that you think it's just about things that just 'bug' a person shouts that you don't know what you're talking about.
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Post by Skypea on Sept 23, 2015 9:13:03 GMT
^^^^^^^^^ Why don't they renounce their mothers' womb while their at it!!!! seems to me a lot of women already do that.
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