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Post by PLurker on Jul 21, 2014 3:04:53 GMT
did something scrapbooking that you couldn't believe they were doing? Years ago, probably around 2000-2001 I was at my montlhy LSS crop night. An older lady had a beautiful, expensive scrapbook from "Heritage" I think. It was thick, leather with tissue pages in between all the pages. The album itself cost a lot. Like close to $100, if I remember right. Anyhoo, she had old heirloom photos of her ancestors to put in it. And a lot of them. Was going to be a family history album of sorts. Just beautiful and I remember thinking I wish I had more vintage photos of my Grandparents past etc. And then she showed me the inside and what she had done......... She used deco-edged scissors on all the original photos!  :shocked:Not even copies. Had no other copies. Oh, the horror! And not even just on the straight edges, but a bunch she had cut the people out into peoople-shape-KWIM? 50 plus year old photos all deckle cut, wavy cut and whatever other stupid shaped scissors she had. I could have cried for her, but said nothing as it was to late. All I could think (and scream in my head) was "Why didn't you make copies if you wanted to massacre those photos!" I still think of her occasionally (like now) and wonder when and if she realized what she had done. Sick.to.my.stomach. if it was me.  |
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Post by breetheflea on Jul 21, 2014 3:32:01 GMT
Ack! I feel the same way about people who don't back up or print their photos and just put them on Facebook. My sister lost all of my nephew's baby pictures in 2007 or 2008 when her computer died. The only pictures that were saved were one's she had uploaded to places like Snapfish to have printed or that other people had taken.
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Post by craftygamer on Jul 21, 2014 3:39:14 GMT
My mom and I had a small tiff a couple months ago, for a similar reason. She just started scrapbooking, so of course she is loving the shaped scissors and cutting everything into circles and ovals. I've tried teaching her better, but she likes what she likes. Lol. Anyway, I nearly freaked out because she had a bunch of pics of me as a kid, all cut into circles - the originals! I seriously almost lost it. Thankfully, my grandmother had given me a book, with the same pics, before she passed. I seriously wanted to scream at her and ask her what she was thinking. Lol. Luckily, I was able to pull myself together and explain to her why we do not use freckled-edged scissors on old family photos.
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Post by Chinagirl828 on Jul 21, 2014 8:11:08 GMT
we do not use freckled-edged scissors on old family photos. This auto-correct made me 
I wish I could go back in time and tell myself to step away from cutting my photos into shapes.
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Post by rhondaintx on Jul 21, 2014 9:40:22 GMT
My father-in-law has an album off all his childhood photos. For that time period, there's quite a lot. All of the photos are cut into small circles and other odd shapes. It will have all the people, but none of the background. He hates them, but there's nothing to be at this point. It makes me very sad.
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Post by pattyg on Jul 21, 2014 13:39:02 GMT
The first album I ever made I cut all the pics with those decorative scissors, used construction paper and glue sticks. Ack! Still thinking about going back and redoing that but it overwhelms me!
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Post by Prenticekid on Jul 21, 2014 14:43:10 GMT
I'm as shy as they come, but I've gotten to a point in my life where if I saw that going down, I'd speak up. Gently, of course, and I would simply ask if they had made copies suggesting that times and crafting styles change, but good photos do not.
I've never seen photo atrocities in action, but when I did my DIL's childhood album, I was given albums with professional photos to use. All the photos had been cut to "fit" into the professional album. However, the album was made so that you were essentially slipping a photo in between two sheets of chipboard. There was no reason to cut the edges off of the rectangular photos or to cut the photos into ovals. I think perhaps they may have been cut to fit into frames at some point. So, not only were heritage quality photos cut up, but they were cut up by the person who paid a lot of money to have them made in the first place.
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Post by cmpeter on Jul 21, 2014 15:04:06 GMT
Dh's grandmother passed down all her old photos to us. Photos of her parents, grandparents, siblings, dh's family...it was albums and albums of photos, a real treasure. However, she wrote the names of the people in the photos on the front of the photo in red Sharpie. Guess, she wanted to make sure we really knew who everyone was.
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Post by gotranch on Jul 21, 2014 15:14:40 GMT
My father-in-law has an album off all his childhood photos. For that time period, there's quite a lot. All of the photos are cut into small circles and other odd shapes. It will have all the people, but none of the background. He hates them, but there's nothing to be at this point. It makes me very sad. Same here. I come from a family of 11 and one Christmas my sister helped my mother sort all the pictures into album for each of the siblings. Unfortunately if some of the pictures had 2 people in - sis cut the the picture in half to give each person the pic of themselves. Many the background is cut off because she wanted to fit as many as she possibly could on to one sheet to copy. They just used a regular copy machine and printed on paper. It was a great thought, but so disappointing. I would have loved to have all of them copied and not divided up as I would like pictures of my siblings too. There were not many pictures to begin with - only a boot box full. So now all those pictures are spread over 11 different households. Ughh. |
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Post by mikklynn on Jul 21, 2014 15:23:06 GMT
My father-in-law has an album off all his childhood photos. For that time period, there's quite a lot. All of the photos are cut into small circles and other odd shapes. It will have all the people, but none of the background. He hates them, but there's nothing to be at this point. It makes me very sad. Same here. I come from a family of 11 and one Christmas my sister helped my mother sort all the pictures into album for each of the siblings. Unfortunately if some of the pictures had 2 people in - sis cut the the picture in half to give each person the pic of themselves. Many the background is cut off because she wanted to fit as many as she possibly could on to one sheet to copy. They just used a regular copy machine and printed on paper. It was a great thought, but so disappointing. I would have loved to have all of them copied and not divided up as I would like pictures of my siblings too. There were not many pictures to begin with - only a boot box full. So now all those pictures are spread over 11 different households. Ughh. OMG - I can't believe someone would cut photos in half. I would have died. |
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Post by nesser01 on Jul 21, 2014 15:28:27 GMT
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Post by jazzcat on Jul 21, 2014 15:41:33 GMT
I worked at the LSS and used to be in charge of the crops. One lady brought all of her wedding pictures and proceeded to cut them up and mount them with purple and fluorescent yellow card stock! I tried to gently suggest other options, but she was determined to do it her way, so I just had to bite my tongue until it bled!!  |
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Post by carolynhasacat on Jul 21, 2014 16:18:41 GMT
Mine is about journaling. A friend of mine tells the most wonderful stories about each photo as she scraps. I love hearing how colorfully she weaves the tales and how funny and sweet so many of the stories are and I'm left thinking how lucky her children are to have that legacy captured in her scrapbooks. But then when I look at her pages, it's just photos and stickers - no journaling or just a very minimal date and place. I've suggested that she capture the story on the page itself, but she doesn't want to "clutter the page with writing."  |
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Post by ctpea on Jul 21, 2014 20:47:20 GMT
Yes! Using scotch tape on a LO  |
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Post by myboysnme on Jul 21, 2014 21:35:23 GMT
I can totally relate to the OP - I've seen it happen so many times.
I mutilated my son's baby pics and coluzzled my wedding album to death, but I am correcting these as much as possible.
But seeing someone hack up those wonderful heritage photos is an abomination to me. Whenever someone says, "Scrapbook they way you want, there are no rules," I always want to yell, "Yes there are! There are rules!! No mutilating original heritage photos!!"
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Post by finally~a~mama on Jul 21, 2014 22:04:19 GMT
Years ago I took a heritage class and this lady was using her family's original photos. Someone asked her if she thought she should use copies. She said she was an only child. Then someone else asked if she had children. Yes, two. Someone again suggested she might want to use copies so both of her children could someday have them. She said her children could share them. This went on periodically throughout the class. You could tell she totally could not understand that sharing an album of heritage photos wasn't exactly do-able. I kept my mouth shut this whole time, but kept thinking "how" do you think they can share this album? What one kid gets the album in even years, the other gets it in odd years? One keeps if for the month or week and then it's the other's turn?
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Post by Belia on Jul 22, 2014 0:00:38 GMT
I don't think I've ever done that to heritage photos- but I know for a fact I've done it to current photos since I started scrapping a dozen or so years ago. And if you think about it, those photos I mutilated yesterday are the heritage photos of tomorrow. So, there's that.
But I have used original photos in layouts, as long as I have a digital copy as well.
I'm also HORRIBLE about cutting away the background of photos. Even to this day.
ACK. Sometimes these threads make me feel like I do more wrong than right!
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Post by PLurker on Jul 22, 2014 0:10:15 GMT
I worked at the LSS and used to be in charge of the crops. One lady brought all of her wedding pictures and proceeded to cut them up and mount them with purple and fluorescent yellow card stock! I tried to gently suggest other options, but she was determined to do it her way, so I just had to bite my tongue until it bled!! I know, right? Makes you want to cry  . I wonder if she is now. At least more "modern photos" have back-ups or negatives. The heritage are just toast. So sad. |
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Post by Deleted on Jul 22, 2014 13:20:12 GMT
I tried to encourage new scrappers in my classes to be thoughtful and intentional about their designs. Don't cut just to use the fancy scissors...cut only if it adds something to the design.
And still people massacred old photos. It's horrendous.
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Post by 505scrapper on Jul 22, 2014 20:32:44 GMT
This wasn't while scrapbooking, but it still breaks my heart.
I had these two 8x10 photos of my parents from when they were in the Navy that were taken back in the 60s. I have the same photos in smaller size that are black and white, but these two 8x10 were done with color and you can tell it was added in but they came out really beautiful. Originally they belonged to my parents, but I confiscated them when I moved out (they were not being displayed at the time). I had them in these really pretty frames and had them hanging. My parents then eventually moved in with me and one day while I was at work, my mom decided to redecorate and move pictures around. She wanted to put her picture in a different frame. Problem was, her picture was 8x10 and the frame was 5x7 with an oval shape. Can you see where this is going? She cut the 8x10 to fit the oval shape. When I saw what she had done, I literally cried. It hurts worse now that she is gone, but what can I do. I at least still have it cut down but it will always have to be in an oval shaped frame.
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Post by melanell on Jul 22, 2014 21:44:04 GMT
During a certain era, some photographs were actually finished with deckle edges. They had a white border with a deckled edge.
So if I am scanning and reprinting photos from that time, I sometimes include a white border so I can deckle edge them. But otherwise, no, I wouldn't cut actual heritage photos at all unless I was fixing a previously botched crop job.
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Post by Flibbertigibbet on Jul 22, 2014 23:29:09 GMT
I saw that happen at a crop. She even cut up tin types from the Civil War era. I pleaded with her, sobbing, to stop.
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Post by gizzy on Jul 23, 2014 2:28:08 GMT
That would be me.  If I could only go back in time and smack those scissors right out of my hand. |
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Post by momthatsy on Jul 23, 2014 8:37:30 GMT
I can at least be thankful I didn't ever like those dang scissors!!
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Post by chrissy321 on Jul 23, 2014 9:24:10 GMT
I try not to react when I see stuff like that. It's difficult to pretend the scrapbooked did a good job when I just want to cringe.
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Post by titancia on Jul 23, 2014 15:26:28 GMT
Dh's grandmother passed down all her old photos to us. Photos of her parents, grandparents, siblings, dh's family...it was albums and albums of photos, a real treasure. However, she wrote the names of the people in the photos on the front of the photo in red Sharpie. Guess, she wanted to make sure we really knew who everyone was. I've seen a lot of older photos like that, and have a few in my family. It's great to have names, but couldn't I have 2 copies so one is clean or to write it all on the back!?! I cringe when I see it. |
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Post by LavenderLayoutLady on Jul 24, 2014 19:58:40 GMT
I don't think I've ever done that to heritage photos- but I know for a fact I've done it to current photos since I started scrapping a dozen or so years ago. And if you think about it, those photos I mutilated yesterday are the heritage photos of tomorrow. So, there's that. But I have used original photos in layouts, as long as I have a digital copy as well. I'm also HORRIBLE about cutting away the background of photos. Even to this day. ACK. Sometimes these threads make me feel like I do more wrong than right! But you have a digital copy. All it will take to remake that photo if pressing print or ordering another copy. Heritage photos have no way of reprinting. So you are good, no worries! |
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Post by LavenderLayoutLady on Jul 24, 2014 20:01:22 GMT
This wasn't while scrapbooking, but it still breaks my heart. I had these two 8x10 photos of my parents from when they were in the Navy that were taken back in the 60s. I have the same photos in smaller size that are black and white, but these two 8x10 were done with color and you can tell it was added in but they came out really beautiful. Originally they belonged to my parents, but I confiscated them when I moved out (they were not being displayed at the time). I had them in these really pretty frames and had them hanging. My parents then eventually moved in with me and one day while I was at work, my mom decided to redecorate and move pictures around. She wanted to put her picture in a different frame. Problem was, her picture was 8x10 and the frame was 5x7 with an oval shape. Can you see where this is going? She cut the 8x10 to fit the oval shape. When I saw what she had done, I literally cried. It hurts worse now that she is gone, but what can I do. I at least still have it cut down but it will always have to be in an oval shaped frame. Ouch, i want to cry with you. Can you scan the cut photo (5x7 is still a good size to work with) and manipulate it digitally so that you could print it again in a rectangular size? |
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Post by anonrefugee on Jul 24, 2014 22:06:51 GMT
I have deliberately not looked at a family album because if this. She tells me "it will be mine someday" so it's well intentioned. I don't want to lose it with an older relative I love because she cut photos into ovals and hexagons.
She's a writer so I know journal portion will be amazing.
Iit's nice to be among friends here- if we were together IRL is e screaming noooooooooo! She scalloped the photo edges!
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Post by judyc on Jul 25, 2014 2:39:58 GMT
I think I'm the only one that must think this way, but wasn't the whole idea of scrapbooking born from the need to get your original photos out of boxes and organized into scrapbooks? If so, then why do you make a copy of the photos, why don't you put the original in the scrapbook? (I agree making a digital copy makes sense - it's still 'out of the box' now.) If you don't scrap your original heritage photo, don't you still have an unlabeled, disorganized photo floating around out there that 50 years from now someone will say 'I wonder who this is in this photo" and then toss it in the trash?
But I totally agree if there is one rule in scrapbooking it should be 'don't mutilate the heritage photos'. It's not hard to scrapbook without mutilation. |
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. I wonder if she is now. At least more "modern photos" have back-ups or negatives. The heritage are just toast. So sad.
