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Post by Darcy Collins on Dec 9, 2015 16:46:43 GMT
I'm sorry your daughter had such an experience. I personally didn't stop on the freeway when I was pulled over. I don't think it's safe for the officer or the motorist when they need to reenter the lanes (traveling at 55+ MPH). I immediately put on my blinker, and proceeded to the exit. I also was always taught to make sure you're in a lit location with other people before stopping - wasn't it Ted Bundy who posed as an officer? If it was dark, I would proceed to an exit and stop at a gas station/store etc. If it was some distance, I wouldn't hesitate to call 911 to inform them that I was stopping in a safe, secure location so they could notify the officer.
As an aside, when I was pulled over, it did take at least 5-10 minutes before the officer approached the vehicle. I'm sure he was running my plates. I'm pretty sure that's standard now so that officers aren't blindsided during a normal traffic stop.
As many PP have said, if internal affairs is calling, clearly the department is looking into the officer's behavior.
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Post by Deleted on Dec 9, 2015 16:55:25 GMT
The first time I got pulled over it was an unmarked car. There was no siren, or typical police light.... just yellow flashing lights on the front of the car. I think the guy followed me for about 10 mins. with them on before I mentioned it to my Mom.. and she said pull over. Boy did I get yelled at. First by the cop. Then by my Mom who had to keep telling me to slow down, before I got the ticket. I have no idea how I was supposed to know it was an unmarked police car. Even with my MOM ( or maybe because I was with my Mom) it scared the hell out of me. OP.. I would call a lawyer I actually had the same thing happen, although it wasn't 10 minutes. I was followed by an unmarked car. I don't think at that time that I was speeding excessively although I'm certain (after the fact) that I probably was speeding. However, when the unmarked car got behind me and had just flashing lights in the grill of the car, I thought it was some kid screwing with me. It was at a time that there were a lot of reports of fake police pulling women over and then assaulting them. For a minute or two, I know I sped up trying to get this guy off my bumper. Then I slowed down hoping that he would get tired of messing with me and go around. It then dawned on me that it might be a police officer and I pulled over. He was pissed, but I didn't have any experience with getting pulled over or experience with an unmarked car. At the time, my DD was a baby and he even went so far to ask if she was my child. I've since read that if someone has ANY doubt or if the situation seems sketchy, they should call 911 and tell them you have been pulled over, the location, and ask them to verify that it is an officer that has pulled you over. I don't blame your daughter one bit for being scared. I'm an adult and that would have scared the crap out of me.
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Post by ~KellyAnn~ on Dec 9, 2015 17:14:18 GMT
Oh my gosh, Luanne. I can't imagine how frightened S was. (hugs to both of you)
You've gotten lots of great advice. Hoping she gets a satisfactory explanation from the police department soon.
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Post by irisheyes on Dec 9, 2015 17:34:59 GMT
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Post by gina on Dec 9, 2015 17:43:02 GMT
That's really odd and as a parent, I am pissed for you. I have NEVER heard of bumping a car WITH a car as a legit police procedure. What in the actual f? (And I was married to a cop-now-turned-fireman). I am usually all for sticking up for law enforcement but this guy sounds like a giant tool bag on a power trip and that kind of thing makes me want to gag. I think he's done 'stuff' like this before (or it showed on a dash cam as someone upthread mentioned) for his higher-ups to be looking into it. Please report back with an update when you have one. Your poor daughter.
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Post by red88 on Dec 9, 2015 17:48:14 GMT
I'd be getting a lawyer like yesterday. Something is not adding up.
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Post by Rhondito on Dec 9, 2015 18:16:27 GMT
Poor kid! I would have called 911 if he did that to me - but kids don't know what to do, and are just scared. What an ass.
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Post by Deleted on Dec 9, 2015 18:16:31 GMT
Please update us as you are able.
I read most of this thread with my mouth hanging open.
Honestly, if I had been in your daughter's place, I would have called 911 after 10 minutes of him sitting behind me with lights and siren on and not doing anything else. I would have CALMLY explained what was happening and asked that someone wait on the line with me. Then I wouldn't have felt alone, and the interaction would have been recorded.
Bless her heart. I can't help but think "BULLY".
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Post by Zee on Dec 9, 2015 18:22:45 GMT
He sounds completely unhinged. I hope you've already contacted an attorney. You know they're watching him and they must have a reason to do so.
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Post by flute4peace on Dec 9, 2015 18:24:08 GMT
I checked in with some of my cop friends, including one Sheriff and one Supervisor. All said inappropriate on his part.
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Post by khaleesi on Dec 9, 2015 18:28:15 GMT
How scary! Speeding or not speeding aside, I would have been just as scared as your daughter. I understand it takes several minutes to run plates and such and if it was at night when it's dark I would expect lights to alert other motorists. I want to believe that I would have had the presence of mind to call 911 to explain what happened and ask if there is an officer in the area after he bumped my car but I don't know.
I have never heard of bumping the car before. I would expect to have heard something over the loud speaker in the police cruiser with instruction.
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Post by ro on Dec 9, 2015 19:25:32 GMT
Your poor dd! I'd be still sitting in jail if that happened to me. When I get nervous, and someone yells at me, if totally answer back.
Luckily the few times, I've been pulled over, I have had only courteous LEO's. I get it, I'm in the wrong, I'll listen to why what I did was so wrong, but no one has the right to yell which imo is intimidation.
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Post by ktdoesntscrap on Dec 9, 2015 19:37:39 GMT
The first time I got pulled over it was an unmarked car. There was no siren, or typical police light.... just yellow flashing lights on the front of the car. I think the guy followed me for about 10 mins. with them on before I mentioned it to my Mom.. and she said pull over. Boy did I get yelled at. First by the cop. Then by my Mom who had to keep telling me to slow down, before I got the ticket. I have no idea how I was supposed to know it was an unmarked police car. Even with my MOM ( or maybe because I was with my Mom) it scared the hell out of me. OP.. I would call a lawyer I actually had the same thing happen, although it wasn't 10 minutes. I was followed by an unmarked car. I don't think at that time that I was speeding excessively although I'm certain (after the fact) that I probably was speeding. However, when the unmarked car got behind me and had just flashing lights in the grill of the car, I thought it was some kid screwing with me. It was at a time that there were a lot of reports of fake police pulling women over and then assaulting them. For a minute or two, I know I sped up trying to get this guy off my bumper. Then I slowed down hoping that he would get tired of messing with me and go around. It then dawned on me that it might be a police officer and I pulled over. He was pissed, but I didn't have any experience with getting pulled over or experience with an unmarked car. At the time, my DD was a baby and he even went so far to ask if she was my child. I've since read that if someone has ANY doubt or if the situation seems sketchy, they should call 911 and tell them you have been pulled over, the location, and ask them to verify that it is an officer that has pulled you over. I don't blame your daughter one bit for being scared. I'm an adult and that would have scared the crap out of me. That is really good advice to call 911. I would not have thought of that. It would have helped this young girl.
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Post by iowgirl on Dec 9, 2015 20:44:44 GMT
Holy Hannah! I would have been on the phone with any and every law enforcement agency the minute my daughter called me with that. NO WAY is that OK. I would seriously be there NOW with my attorney crawling up every butt in that agency. The first time I got pulled over it was an unmarked car. There was no siren, or typical police light.... just yellow flashing lights on the front of the car. I think the guy followed me for about 10 mins. with them on before I mentioned it to my Mom.. and she said pull over. I have instructed all my kids - male and female to NEVER pull over for an unmarked car. Signal and slow and get on the phone with 911. We live in a rural area and I told them to never pull over without calling 911 and to never get out of the car. Lock the doors and crack the window and let them know what you are doing. But too much weird shit goes on. Until they know for a fact it is a legitimate law enforcement office and his/her dispatch knows what is going on. Sit tight.
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Post by stampnscrap1128 on Dec 11, 2015 19:08:34 GMT
Any update on this?
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Post by anonrefugee on Dec 11, 2015 19:59:43 GMT
Oh my! She probably thought he was one of the car-bump rapist we read about.
I am not a get a lawyer type person, but I'd call one right now! Or two days ago when I wish I'd started reading this thread.
Your poor DD.
I haven't read the thread yet but am probably not alone in my comments. I'm also usually open to hearing the other side of the story, but I'd want to be prepared first if I received those phone calls.
Good luck!!!
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Post by pudgygroundhog on Dec 11, 2015 20:09:09 GMT
How scary. I just read this to my DH. He's a retired police officer. He said if Internal affairs is calling, then the officer involved is gonna get his ass in trouble. He said if she was completely stopped he had absolutely no right to hit her with his car. The cop cars are equipped with a PA system he could have easily gotten on that and told her to pull forward to get off the road completely. I can't imagine how scared she must have been. I was just wondering about a PA system. Why didn't he use it? If I was pulled over I wouldn't want to make any move until I heard from the police officer - I wouldn't know what to do. I'm not sure how he expected her to know what he wanted her to do. I've never heard of an officer bumping a car like that. I would find that behavior outside the norm and it would cause me to worry that it was somebody impersonating an officer or an officer up to no good. No wonder she was scared - I would've been shaken too.
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Post by kernriver on Dec 11, 2015 20:23:15 GMT
Dont they have microphones in their cars so they can give you instructins without getting of their car? I wouldnt know what to do if a cop bumped my car. I wouldnt take it as a signal to pull ahead. Jesus, I dont know what I would do.
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Post by Nicole in TX on Dec 12, 2015 0:10:39 GMT
I would consider getting the media involved.
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Post by luanne on Dec 12, 2015 2:03:59 GMT
We have no update at this point. As far as we know he did not use a PA system. My dd said even though it was raining at one point she did roll the window down to see if he was using one. But she heard nothing. We are going to wait till next week and then call the first officer that called. Court date is right after Christmas. We will be going to it. Luanne
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Post by Rhondito on Dec 12, 2015 2:12:35 GMT
I can't believe you've done nothing about this.
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Post by scrapmaven on Dec 12, 2015 3:02:36 GMT
Your poor dd must be still very scared each time she gets behind the wheel. I don't have experience w/this type of thing, but I think I'd consult w/legal counsel, only because internal affairs is involved. Makes me wonder why this is being investigated?
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Post by wholarmor on Dec 12, 2015 3:13:18 GMT
Wow. I'm marking my place, because I for sure want to hear the update. I hope that guy gets disciplined. Totally not right.
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Post by RiverIsis on Dec 12, 2015 3:36:34 GMT
Whoa. Something is not right here and personally I think the sheriff's office knows it if they're calling her asking all those questions. I'm 20 years older than your DD and if a cop did that I'd either drive off or be calling 911. There's just too many cases of people posing as police that I wouldn't be risking it. But either way I'd be scared out of my mind, I can't imagine how scared she was. I am hoping they do review the tape on this. My dh and I both heard him yelling through the phone and it was not on speaker. My dh pulled it away from his ear because it was so loud. Although not physically present you were present over the phone as a witness. Document it. You (and your daughter) have a right to review the tape. Insist on it. Please be documenting EVERYTHING - calls (with names, times, dates), any interviews, your DD version of the incident. In no way, shape or form is it appropriate for an officer to use his car to 'bump' another vehicle. I am betting that the shit is about to hit the fan, and the officer is in a heap of trouble. Document everything. And I will say this even if the officer documented she admitted speeding I would have that questioned as she was answering under duress as he had already been "physical" with her. Secondary to the big issue. I would want to know when the speed camera had last been calibrated and its accuracy etc. If it was affected by the crash into her car etc. Wow. I'm marking my place, because I for sure want to hear the update. I hope that guy gets disciplined. Totally not right. As it is with IA she may never know the update. Honestly though, it frightens me when someone that unreasonably angry loses their job because I would be afraid he would blame me. I guess I'm over-reacting but we currently have a suspected murder case nearby (body has yet to be found) and there is a now former cop (fired for interfering with the investigation) suspected along with his brother.
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Post by papercrafteradvocate on Dec 12, 2015 3:52:06 GMT
I can't believe you've done nothing about this. Me either! I would have been all over that immediately and not been just waiting to find out what happened! You never know, you might have benefited from bring a lawyer to the hearing!!
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Post by welshjenni on Dec 12, 2015 10:07:27 GMT
Please get a lawyer for the hearing. You can't rely on the higher-ups being completely on your DDs side.
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Post by gailoh on Dec 12, 2015 12:13:32 GMT
He crossed the line when he bumped her car. That was unwarranted. I agree with rcarpin, he should have gotten out his car and asked to pull further over...sounds like they are watching him as well...do have her sit down and write it all out even calling you on cell and time...hugs
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Post by uksue on Dec 12, 2015 13:21:53 GMT
I'm the last one to go to solicitors but even I would have been appointing one as soon as this happened. Sitting back and expecting the police to 'do the right thing' after doing the absolute wrong just seems naive to me. Your daughter must have been absolutely terrified and needs to know how wrong this is.
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Post by pierkiss on Dec 12, 2015 14:23:17 GMT
Dude. You need a lawyer to be at that court hearing.
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Post by gsquaredmom on Dec 12, 2015 14:27:46 GMT
You really do need a lawyer. This is not about building a case against a cop and them doing the right thing. They are building a case against your daughter in case she brings a civil suit. They will do everything possible to nail your daughter, discredit her story, etc. You can bet they have already started. She likely has a huge lawsuit potential and they are going to try to mitigate their damages. That phone call from IA was as much about gathering evidence they can use against your daughter as investigating the cop.
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