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Post by miominmio on Dec 12, 2015 14:33:42 GMT
You really do need a lawyer. This is not about building a case against a cop and them doing the right thing. They are building a case against your daughter in case she brings a civil suit. They will do everything possible to nail your daughter, discredit her story, etc. You can bet they have already started. She likely has a huge lawsuit potential and they are going to try to mitigate their damages. That phone call from IA was as much about gathering evidence they can use against your daughter as investigating the cop. I'm a law school graduate, and please believe me when I tell you that this is a very likely scenario, and that it is imperative that you get your daughter a lawyer....a good one.
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Post by uksue on Dec 12, 2015 14:48:36 GMT
I came late to this story but can't get it out of my head. How do you even know who rang you about this? It could easily be a friend of the LEO , finding out what your daughter is likely to say so he can cover his tracks. I find this so disturbing, and it's and has made me realise that I have never advised my two oldest about what o do in such a situation ( both have only been driving around 6 months) and to be honest, I really wouldn't know what to advise them.
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Post by RiverIsis on Dec 12, 2015 19:39:11 GMT
I came late to this story but can't get it out of my head. How do you even know who rang you about this? It could easily be a friend of the LEO , finding out what your daughter is likely to say so he can cover his tracks. I find this so disturbing, and it's and has made me realise that I have never advised my two oldest about what o do in such a situation ( both have only been driving around 6 months) and to be honest, I really wouldn't know what to advise them. I'm seriously considering putting my silhouette to use and making a vinyl decal to put right their inside our cars to remind any of us to call 911 to verify it is an officer if pulled over.
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Mary Kay Lady
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Post by Mary Kay Lady on Dec 12, 2015 22:50:41 GMT
What a scary situation to be in. I can't even begin to imagine how she must have felt. Can you hire a lawyer to help you navigate this situation?
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Post by MizIndependent on Dec 14, 2015 21:27:41 GMT
I'd be at the very least getting in touch with the ACLU, this is a Civil Lawyer's dream. I doubt you'd have to pay a single penny, you'd probably have your pick of lawyers for the hearing. ACLU
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Post by flute4peace on Dec 14, 2015 21:31:28 GMT
You really do need a lawyer. This is not about building a case against a cop and them doing the right thing. They are building a case against your daughter in case she brings a civil suit. They will do everything possible to nail your daughter, discredit her story, etc. You can bet they have already started. She likely has a huge lawsuit potential and they are going to try to mitigate their damages. That phone call from IA was as much about gathering evidence they can use against your daughter as investigating the cop. My goodness I would never have thought of this, but it makes sense. Now it's even more scary!
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Post by RiverIsis on Dec 14, 2015 22:12:43 GMT
I'd be at the very least getting in touch with the ACLU, this is a Civil Lawyer's dream. I doubt you'd have to pay a single penny, you'd probably have your pick of lawyers for the hearing. ACLU Please get your daughter a lawyer.
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Post by katiekaty on Dec 14, 2015 22:55:46 GMT
You nudge my car while its in park and I would have a mechanic check for damage. And present the bill to the sheriff's department for reimbursement. Sorry, that was an accident caused by the sheriff department-assault? And a lawuyer would be involved. I am not sure I would be sitting at home waiting for a court date.
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Post by gritzi on Dec 15, 2015 0:06:03 GMT
There is no way I would be waiting, not contacting an attorney & planning to attend the court day w/o representation. You are likely walking into a lion's den, so to speak.
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Post by gypsymama on Dec 27, 2015 12:30:06 GMT
Is there anything new on this?
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Post by wholarmor on Dec 27, 2015 12:33:14 GMT
Update please!
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Post by scrapngranny on Dec 27, 2015 15:26:40 GMT
I'm glad you are happy with the outcome and that your daughter heard the message about watching her speed. Keeping her safe is the only important thing.
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Post by styxgirl on Dec 27, 2015 15:42:52 GMT
my daughter admits to feeling she was going over 50 mph and will pay the ticket. i know this will not be a favourable response so please be gentle but I do feel this stop was a lesson learned. We let my dd handle it in her own way. She is not someone who will test authority and is a good kid but was always gone, driving here there everywhere being a typical 19 year old. She has slowed down and is home now more and thinking a bit before driving somewhere especially downtown In the city. (She drove down to the city 5 days a week for school in the last year so she is familiar with the roads ect.) As a her mom I feel it was a gift or someone from above telling her to slow her roll before something could happen.
You know your daughter best. :-)
Make sure to have her pay the fine with her own money. Can't remember if she works or not, but if not, have her do extra work at home to make up for the cost of the ticket.
Also, you might check to see if your town/county has a "diversion" for speeding tickets. It's where if you don't have a history of speeding tickets, you pay a little higher fine and they will "hold" the speeding ticket for one year. If you don't get another, then they will dismiss it. BUT, if you do get another in the year, they both tack on to your record (like they would anyway).
Could save you on your insurance in the long-run.
Best wishes.
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Post by originalvanillabean on Dec 27, 2015 15:49:18 GMT
Good update. I think you are handling it well as far a lesson for your daughter.
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Post by GiantsFan on Dec 27, 2015 15:57:09 GMT
Thanks for the update.
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Post by compeateropeator on Dec 27, 2015 16:09:43 GMT
Thanks for the update and I think your daughter's decision on how to handle it was a good choice. I was slightly shocked on how many were advocating for immediately lawyering up and/or suing. That wasn't even on my radar when I read your post. Obviously the situation was being looked into, and while traumatic I certainly did not think it was sue worthy with the information we knew. I think it was a very responsible decision to pay the speeding ticket if she thought it was valid. As someone who has had a few speeding tickets (probably a few too many ), l think it is important to accept the (reasonable) consequences even if there is a technicality. I have paid a ticket that had a obvious wrong location. There was no reason to try and get it dismissed because I was guilty of what he said. I knew what I was doing. And with all the times I "get away" with it. It just seems right to pay the price when i don't because sometimes I am making the conscious decision to break the law. sorry for the long post, I guess I am feeling chatty this morning.
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Post by wholarmor on Dec 28, 2015 23:15:45 GMT
It's good that they dropped the parking ticket. If she feels that she was speeding, then it's good that she's paying that ticket.
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Post by mom on Dec 28, 2015 23:32:35 GMT
I am glad you've reached a conclusion that you are all happy with. And double thumbs up for letting your daughter handle this. I am sure this wont be a lesson forgotten anytime soon!
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Post by LilyRose on Dec 29, 2015 1:24:49 GMT
Thanks for the update and I think your daughter's decision on how to handle it was a good choice. I was slightly shocked on how many were advocating for immediately lawyering up and/or suing. That wasn't even on my radar when I read your post. Obviously the situation was being looked into, and while traumatic I certainly did not think it was sue worthy with the information we knew. I think it was a very responsible decision to pay the speeding ticket if she thought it was valid. As someone who has had a few speeding tickets (probably a few too many ), l think it is important to accept the (reasonable) consequences even if there is a technicality. I agree--I too was surprised at the rush to get a lawyer/sue.
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Post by RiverIsis on Dec 29, 2015 5:06:40 GMT
Thanks for the update and I think your daughter's decision on how to handle it was a good choice. I was slightly shocked on how many were advocating for immediately lawyering up and/or suing. That wasn't even on my radar when I read your post. Obviously the situation was being looked into, and while traumatic I certainly did not think it was sue worthy with the information we knew. I think it was a very responsible decision to pay the speeding ticket if she thought it was valid. As someone who has had a few speeding tickets (probably a few too many ), l think it is important to accept the (reasonable) consequences even if there is a technicality. I agree--I too was surprised at the rush to get a lawyer/sue. I'm not going to go back through the thread but I guess I'm selective in what I understood the rationale behind seeking legal advice. Most suggestions for a lawyer were because it is HIGHLY irregular for a LEO to bump a citizen's car. It was a very intimidating situation to be in for any person and bullying. Bullying and intimidation are tactics to make her question herself and whether she was within the law. I'm glad the OP and her daughter are happy. And TBH that's what is important. I personally question the authority of a LEO willing to do such of thing. 99.9% of the time I would advise my child to fight the ticket as the officer's judgement was obviously impaired for him to continue with such behavior and additionally it will have an impact on her driving record and driving insurance costs.
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