heyliv
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Post by heyliv on Dec 29, 2015 22:21:29 GMT
Hey all! Newbie here!
Was wondering about the pros and cons of the Silhouette Cameo/Cricket Explorer/Cut&Scan2!
Thanks All!
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doglover
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Post by doglover on Dec 29, 2015 22:26:16 GMT
Welcome!
Sorry of no help as I don't have any of these...
Just wanted to welcome you to 2Peas!!
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iowgirl
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Post by iowgirl on Dec 30, 2015 13:54:54 GMT
I have the Silhouette Cameo, so I can give some points on that one.
The software for it is very nice. Once you learn how to use it - it can do a lot of stuff. I even use it for other projects now that involve printing.
Print & Cut is great. The software works great for designing your own too. You can import digital scrapbook paper to use in your designs. If you have a large format printer, you can do it on bigger paper. You can't with Cricut. Not sure about the Cut&Scan
You can use any font (I think this is the case with all the newer machines, just not the older Cricuts)
The cuts are amazing. I can cut very small detail.
There is a lot of support for the Silhouette machines. There are many Facebook groups and you can get almost immediate help - not to mention the inspiration from others projects.
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scrapnnana
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Post by scrapnnana on Dec 30, 2015 15:05:02 GMT
I have the Silhouette Cameo and love it! It's a great machine with a lot of capability, whether you want to use designs created by others or create and design your own. It has excellent software (better than the Explore IMO), but my opinion is based on the fact that I know how to use the software to create literally any design I want. I can also adapt, adjust, tweak, whatever design I want to change. Their software is extremely versatile. I also like their subscription plan for when I want to be lazy and let others do the design work for me. With my sub, I can buy designs for between 11 cents (most designs) to 33 cents (alphabets) per design, and the subscription includes licensed designs (Marvel, Care Bears, and another one that escapes me at the moment). Depending on the sub you choose, you may pay a little more and have fewer downloads available, but they are yours to keep, even after your subscription ends. Basically, the subscription is a way to buy designs for pennies on the dollar.
In contrast, the Cricut subscription is a flat fee per month. You do not have access to the licensed designs (they have Disney designs, as well as some others), but you can cut as many of the non-licensed designs as you want, while you have an active subscription. Once you stop subscribing, though, you do NOT continue to have access to the designs unless you buy them. You can buy individual designs or cartridges, but in the long run, for me the Silhouette subscription is a better deal. I don't have time to cut a bunch of stuff all in one month, or storage space if I did so, which makes the Cricut subscription far less appealing to me.
The Cricut Explore is reportedly a very good machine. I do not have it, but I can tell you a few things about it. It will cut heavier materials than the Silhouette Cameo. It requires you to be online to use it (at least so far). While you can use it to cut your own designs, the software is more geared to your buying Cricut designs and making projects they have designed for you. Unless things have changed, you need a separate graphics program to create your own designs, then import them into the Design Space software.
I have considered buying the Explore because I want to be able to cut leather & other heavier materials, but a recent message thread about it made me decide to hold off for awhile for a couple of reasons. First is the Internet requirement, which potentially can mean that if you are trying to cut something at a time where there is a lot of "traffic" then you may have issues. We seem to have Internet issues when Skyping or using Google Plus video chats, so the idea of having difficulty for cutting a project I need to get done, and not be able to because of wonky Internet, really does not sit well with me. I currently live in a large metro area, and supposedly have the fastest, most reliable internet, but I have times when my internet is not reliable. I have heard they are working to make an offline software, so I am waiting till they do. Another issue is that I have a Cricut Expression and 104 cartridges that are all linked to my Gypsy. There seems to be some kind of issue with getting them to be usable with the Explore. I just don't have time to deal with it right now. However, if these issues are not something that would be a problem for you, the Explore might be a great machine for you, especially if you want to cut heavier materials.
Both the Cricut Explore and the Silhouette Cameo can cut tiny details. The Explore might have a slight edge over the Cameo, but I recently learned of a feature that helps the Cameo cut even better details than it normally does, so there may be little to no difference in their ability to cut tiny details. I have no way to test that.
Both the Cameo and the Explore do print and cut. You can scan an image, then create a cutting line, and cut it out, but you don't just scan and cut, which brings me to the third machine you asked about:
I have read a little about the Scan N Cut, but not enough to say much about it. Most owners seem to like it, especially stampers who want the machine to cut out what they have stamped. Unless you do a lot of stamping, I don't think this machine would be as good a choice. I have thousands of stamps and use them, but I don't really feel a need for this machine (yet--maybe someone who has it can persuade me).
In the time it took me to type this, others may have responded. I suggest you also try a search here of previous message threads about these machines.
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Post by kiwifarmer on Dec 30, 2015 23:34:00 GMT
I am ashamed to say I have all three
I use them all differently. The cricut ....I only have the earlier model, so no experience with the Explore.
For ease of use I would say the silhouette. I love the design software and ability to weld different designs together to make your own. The online store is good for amassing cheap designs, and once you know your way around the software you can do a lot more with it. ( Recommmend Kerri Bradfords classes to teach you how to drive the software to make the most of it) The downside for the silhouette cameo for me personally is the ability to cut thicker things like chipboard.....but thats where my scan n cut comes in! I can design in the cameo software and print the design, then save it to cut with the scan n cut. Love that the scan n cut does fussy cutting with ease as well.
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Post by htstepper on Dec 31, 2015 0:37:38 GMT
I, myself prefer the Silhouette. The trace feature is my favorite way of creating my own images for free! It takes some practice, but well worth it! Here is a comparison of all three machines:
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scrapnnana
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Post by scrapnnana on Dec 31, 2015 3:13:37 GMT
htstepper, that was a well done review. Thanks for posting it.
After reading the review, I want to add two things: the Cameo will also cut 12x24 if you get the bigger mat and use that setting in the software.
Also, the Explore does not work with some computers. That was briefly mentioned, but I do want to emphasize that you need to make absolutely sure your computer is compatible if you are interested in the Explore.
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Post by anniefb on Dec 31, 2015 3:22:29 GMT
Thanks for the review htstepper - very helpful!
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Post by htstepper on Dec 31, 2015 4:13:31 GMT
htstepper, that was a well done review. Thanks for posting it. After reading the review, I want to add two things: the Cameo will also cut 12x24 if you get the bigger mat and use that setting in the software. Also, the Explore does not work with some computers. That was briefly mentioned, but I do want to emphasize that you need to make absolutely sure your computer is compatible if you are interested in the Explore. I finally got a 12x24 mat recently after owning my Silhouette for a few years-so handy for larger projects.
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Post by Deleted on Dec 31, 2015 9:02:30 GMT
You got really great advice. htstepper's review was an excellent one. I have the Cricut Explore & the Silhouette Cameo. I am happy with both of them. I heard a great tip about the Cricut Explore and Silhouette Cameo. If you just want to create then the Explore is for you. If you want to design then the Cameo is for you. I really thought that was a great tip especially if your new to the world of die cutting. I think this is the comparison video I saw that great tip about- www.youtube.com/watch?v=lx99aN10z7cI think both cutters are great. I do enjoy my Explore. I don't like that it is online. I do love that I can cut designs only using my iPad on the Cricut Explore. Huge bonus for me because I don't like to take my computer into my art room. I am always dragging my iPad around with me. I think Print & Cut is more accurate on the Explore. I also think the prints look a little faded. Not enough to be a problem. Graphic Designers would probably prefer the Cameo. Actually I would recommend the Cameo over the Explore for a graphic designer. I do get snobby about my Print & Cuts. I do plan to do a lot of Print & Cuts on my Explore. Making stickers or doing photos I will use my Cameo. If your doing vinyl. Don't look at the Explore. The Silhouette will always be better for vinyl designers. Both machines cut excellent. I will be fair and say that I do think the Explore has an advantage over the Cameo in cutting. The Cameo blade is not the best. I have a CB09 blade holder in my Cameo. My cuts are exactly the same as the Explore using that blade holder. There are a lot of reviews on the CB09 Blade holder. I will add one thing I never see on the reviews. You can buy German Carbide blades for your Cameo. This is something the Explore touts. It's not a Cricut thing. Those blades have been around for years. A lot of the Explore reviews make it seem like Cricut invented the blades. ProvoCraft did not. My other con that bothers me about the Explore is there is no offset. You have to do workarounds. If you make a lot of stickers and you want a white border. If you make mats for your cuts then the Cameo is better. I will have to say the offset missing for Cricut almost made me pack it up and take it back. I use that function a lot in my Cameo. Google Chrome is recommended to run Cricut Explore's software. I am a Firefox user. If you can only use one browser and it's not Chrome then you might have issues. I do have Chrome on my computer and only using it for the Explore. Last plus for the Silhouette Cameo you can use a variety of cutting software. You can use MTC & Sure Cuts A Lot. Both excellent software. Cricut Explore you use Cricut's software. That will probably never change. In htstepper's review she shared there was the Sizzix Eclips & of course the Scan Cut. I was going to buy an Eclips. It is still a maybe on my list. Sizzix makes good machines. I have heard great reviews about the machine. Sure Cuts A Lot forum will be a good resource to research. The Eclips has the same hardware as the Explore pretty much. It cuts at 700gsm. That is past Cricut's range. I heard Cricut was testing at 550GSM. That is still a powerful cutter too. Here's Eclips manual- d3r06h67fvmy8.cloudfront.net/media/uploads/pdfs/instructions/655934.pdf. I got it from Sizzix's site. Brother Scan Cut- What I have seen in You Tube videos this is a good machine. It is really great for those who do not want a computer in their craft room. I did really look into this cutter for that reason. It's not a cutter for me because I do design & already have a Cricut. I highly recommend this cutter for those who quilt or are sewists. I admit I did completely geek out that you can actually put seam allowances in the designs. For new die cutting owners I never heard any one say "I hate this cutter." The more advanced users do have some issues with it. Brother is a good company I bet they are working to fix those issues. If you have a good quilting or sewing machine store in your area I bet you they have a Scan Cut you can actually try and ask questions about it. I do have a feeling I will be adding a Scan Cut in my home. My DH is a quilter. I hope that helps. I was trying not to turn my reviews into a book.
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scrapnnana
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Post by scrapnnana on Dec 31, 2015 16:09:40 GMT
I want to add one more issue that I think has not yet been mentioned.
If you mainly want to create using ready to go designs that you are willing to purchase, then look at the designs offered for each machine and see which company has designs you really like.
If you are really into Disney, you can buy Disney designs for the Explore. They will cost you at least 99 cents per design if you just buy individual designs, but the digital cartridges should give you a better deal. If you like cute designs for pages of kids and/or grandkids, Cricut has a lot of cute designs.
The Cameo designs offer a wide variety of styles. I have had a subscription for the past two years, since I bought my machine. My sub lets me buy $150 worth of designs of my choice each month for $16/month. Although it was getting harder the last few months (I now have thousands of designs to choose from), I did manage to spend all my credits each time. It worked out to most designs costing about 11 cents each for me.
I considered getting an E-Clips (or however that one is spelled). I looked through their designs, but they were not my style at all.
I don't know if you can buy ready made designs for the Scan-N-Cut.
So much really depends on what you want to do with the machine. There are a lot of choices available to crafters now, which is great, but it makes the decision tough. What matters most to you?
If you plan to do your own graphic design work, especially if you already use a program such as Illustrator, then you should be able to import your designs to both the Cameo and the Explore, in which case I think a lot depends on what materials you plan to cut. If you will be cutting papers, cardstock, thin chipboard, and vinyl, the Cameo is capable of handling any and all of those. The Explore will cut leather and wood and heavier chipboard.
FWIW, I used to use Illustrator to design all of my cutting files. Once I realized that the Silhouette software had many of the same capabilities (especially the ability to edit points), then I stopped using Illustrator for most things and mainly use the Silhouette software now, since it saves me the step of importing and converting the file.
It really depends on what you want you want to do with the machine that determines which is the best machine for you. I hope what has been posted throughout this thread has been helpful, and that you come back to let us know what you decide to get and how you like it.
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Post by Deleted on Jan 6, 2016 8:25:23 GMT
I wanted to add another Cricut/Cameo thing. I have been working with my Explore a lot this week. I made my own SVG design that is complex. I used Inkscape for my designing. I did import it using Cricut Explore. I can say with 100% certainty if you design SVG's then the Explore is a bit frustrating to use. I made a node error. That is a common mistake. I just couldn't fix the error in Cricut Explore. I had to fix the error in Inkscape, then upload it again in the Explore. Then I made another mistake fixing the node error and had to go through all the same steps again. Cricut Explore won't let you see nodes. Silhouette Cameo I fix my node and that's it. Doesn't matter if I designed in Inkscape. Silhouette will let me see the nodes. Cricut Explore you can't see the nodes. That is beyond frustrating, least for me. I guess you can tell I am still a bit frustrated, lol. That was a tiring session for a tiny mistake. I am one of those girls who always say it's a learning experience. I will have to say I can't recommend the Explore if you do design. I think it's too basic as it stands right now. Maybe, in a year that will change. I do think Cricut would like to keep this machine basic and easy to understand for those who want to create and not make complex designs. scrapnnana- I remember that Sizzix was opening an e-store when the new version of the E-clips came out. I don't know if that ever came about. If it did I am thinking it's not a very big store. You would think we would hear about the designs. I bet it's small like BossKut's e-store.
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scrapnnana
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Post by scrapnnana on Jan 6, 2016 13:38:30 GMT
The E-clips designs were available to see online when the machine first came out, or fairly soon after. I think they were on cartridges, similar to the earlier Cricuts. I just didn't like the style of their designs enough to invest in that machine. I never heard anything more and kind of forgot about that machine till it was mentioned here.
I appreciate knowing about the nodes. I actually use the ability to make node adjustments a lot. That would really frustrate me about the Explore. I often make adaptations or adjustments in Silhouette designs I buy, using the nodes. If you can't do that with the Explore, it's one more reason for me to wait to buy that machine.
I get that Provo Craft wants to keep the machine super easy to use. I also understand that they want to encourage customers to buy their designs. Some customers, however, want the capability for both. While the Cricut machines are easier to learn to use quickly than the Silhouette, the Silhouette software is not that bad.
My sister bought a Cameo in November. I gave her one lesson while visiting in early December. She is not technological at all. She has never used any graphic design software. She hates computer stuff. However, she is learning to use her machine. I gave her a little additional training using FaceTime, and a little additional verbal instruction by phone. She is learning to do some pretty complex things in a very short time, which is rather impressive, considering she is as resistant to anything "techy" as any person can be.
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tazmom
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Post by tazmom on Jan 7, 2016 3:13:33 GMT
The Brother Scan N Cut doesn't require a computer ever if you don't want it. Very easy scan pictures in and then cut them. I love my mom's. You pretty much do everything on it without even opening a app up on the computer plus you can add to it by using a usb storage card. Does everything that the other two do without being dependent on cartridges or images that are really not yours(Cricut makes you pay for the use of them as does Silhouette). Plus make easier for people that are not tech savvy.
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Post by Deleted on Jan 7, 2016 8:11:33 GMT
The E-clips designs were available to see online when the machine first came out, or fairly soon after. I think they were on cartridges, similar to the earlier Cricuts. I just didn't like the style of their designs enough to invest in that machine. I never heard anything more and kind of forgot about that machine till it was mentioned here. I appreciate knowing about the nodes. I actually use the ability to make node adjustments a lot. That would really frustrate me about the Explore. I often make adaptations or adjustments in Silhouette designs I buy, using the nodes. If you can't do that with the Explore, it's one more reason for me to wait to buy that machine. I get that Provo Craft wants to keep the machine super easy to use. I also understand that they want to encourage customers to buy their designs. Some customers, however, want the capability for both. While the Cricut machines are easier to learn to use quickly than the Silhouette, the Silhouette software is not that bad. My sister bought a Cameo in November. I gave her one lesson while visiting in early December. She is not technological at all. She has never used any graphic design software. She hates computer stuff. However, she is learning to use her machine. I gave her a little additional training using FaceTime, and a little additional verbal instruction by phone. She is learning to do some pretty complex things in a very short time, which is rather impressive, considering she is as resistant to anything "techy" as any person can be. I agree the Silhouette software is not bad at all. I think it's excellent software. I do rely on it. I use several design software programs. When I got the Cricut Explore I thought I would pick it up. I was relying heavily on their tutorial site. I have never done that with any of my other programs. I always figured it out myself. I thought my trouble was because the Cricut software was too easy to use. I have different design habits now. After working with the software I don't think that any more. There is a learning curve. I am struggling with it. I am slowly mastering the software. The Silhouette software I picked up so quickly. I had no issues with it. I can't use the Cricut for SVG's. I did try basic SVG's and they were fine. Complex SVG it's just not going to happen. The software is too basic and it makes using the machine frustrating. One of ProvoCraft's advertising things is you can spend more time drawing and we will do the rest. Something like that along the lines. ProvoCraft I can say that didn't happen. I spent less time drawing and more time uploading my file over and over again because I couldn't do anything basic in your software. I still love my Explore. I am staying away from it using my own designs. I will be fair I do think the Explore will be fine using designs from other stores. I know a lot of people would worry about that. I am sure stores like SVGCuts test all their designs on the machines before uploading them to their stores. If your boo-boo prone like I am. You make mistakes in your files and catch them after you upload them in your cutting software then get a Silhouette or different cutter. I swear going back and fourth hitting the upload button on the Explore software will make you go batty. I am known for my patience. You know what I messed up. I forgot to close a node on the tail of a poodle I designed. Then I had to go back to Inkscape fix it. Then I forgot part of his tail. I had to go back and get the tail. Then Google Chrome decided I need to hit the upload button three times before it decided I could upload the file. If anybody is in the market for a die cutter download both software programs and play with them. I have always said with die cutter's this is where you will spend most of your time is in the software. Some people might find the Cameo software too hard while the Explore is perfect and vice-versa. I would download MTC & SCAL too. Those might be easier than the software that comes with the machines. Of course you can't use third party with the Explore. You can with the Cameo and other cutters.
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Post by htstepper on Jan 8, 2016 23:45:34 GMT
I would love to hear more about German carbide blades. Anyone have any info on those?
I have toggled buying the CBO9 blades, but haven't taken the plunge yet. I did join a FB group on CBO9 and they seem to cut nicely.
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Post by Deleted on Jan 9, 2016 8:55:58 GMT
German Carbide is a tougher steel. The men in your life probably have German Carbide blades, knives, arrows and other sharp tools in their arsenal. It has been around since before WWII, if my history thinking is correct. ProvoCraft has not been around since WWII. Here you go I was able to dig for a wiki article- en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cemented_carbideI have been buying Carbide blades for my Graphtec & Roland cutting machines for years. Carbide cutting blades cut better and more accurately than normal blades. They do last longer. I use my die cutters a lot. I only buy blades once every three years. Every cutting session when I am done I take a piece of tin foil to knock off any burrs on my blades. I put my blades back in. I can get one blade to last a very long time. I bought Cameo blades two years ago. I am still on my first one.
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Post by htstepper on Jan 9, 2016 23:34:25 GMT
German Carbide is a tougher steel. The men in your life probably have German Carbide blades, knives, arrows and other sharp tools in their arsenal. It has been around since before WWII, if my history thinking is correct. ProvoCraft has not been around since WWII. Here you go I was able to dig for a wiki article- en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cemented_carbideI have been buying Carbide blades for my Graphtec & Roland cutting machines for years. Carbide cutting blades cut better and more accurately than normal blades. They do last longer. I use my die cutters a lot. I only buy blades once every three years. Every cutting session when I am done I take a piece of tin foil to knock off any burrs on my blades. I put my blades back in. I can get one blade to last a very long time. I bought Cameo blades two years ago. I am still on my first one. Those sound awesome. Where can I get Cameo ones and do they come in a plastic holder or are they the same as CBO9?
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Post by Deleted on Jan 10, 2016 12:26:59 GMT
You will need the CB09 blade holder for the blades. Silhouette's blade holder you can't change the blades unless you have one of the old ones that came with the caps. I buy my blades on Ebay. No particular seller. I just go with who has the best price. Don't buy Roland blades. You need to buy Graphetec blades when doing your search. For example Graphtec Carbide Blades. Roland blades are for the Cricut.
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Post by gale w on Jan 10, 2016 20:00:23 GMT
German Carbide is a tougher steel. The men in your life probably have German Carbide blades, knives, arrows and other sharp tools in their arsenal. It has been around since before WWII, if my history thinking is correct. ProvoCraft has not been around since WWII. Here you go I was able to dig for a wiki article- en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cemented_carbideI have been buying Carbide blades for my Graphtec & Roland cutting machines for years. Carbide cutting blades cut better and more accurately than normal blades. They do last longer. I use my die cutters a lot. I only buy blades once every three years. Every cutting session when I am done I take a piece of tin foil to knock off any burrs on my blades. I put my blades back in. I can get one blade to last a very long time. I bought Cameo blades two years ago. I am still on my first one. I've been trying to find 3rd party "better" blades for the scan n cut. Do you know if anyone has been making them for that machine?
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Post by megs78 on Jan 11, 2016 0:53:38 GMT
I've had my Cricut Explore for a year now and I'm finding that the software gets better with every release. I don't design SVGs but I've had no problems importing JPEGs and producing cut files from them, nor with importing SVGs that someone else as created. It can be a little buggy if I'm too far ahead in the beta release of my laptop's OS. I get around that by using a standard install of Chrome as an alternate whenever my beta gets too far ahead (mainly Flash becomes an issue). I've been really pleased with the intricacy of the cuts it makes, how long the blade lasts and how easy it is to adjust for whatever material I'm using.
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Post by Deleted on Jan 11, 2016 7:10:21 GMT
I've been trying to find 3rd party "better" blades for the scan n cut. Do you know if anyone has been making them for that machine? Gale- I was watching videos this weekend of the Scan n Cut. I think it's a Roland machine. The motor sounds like a Roland Machine. I just went and looked at the blades. No, those are not standard Roland blades. I read on the MTC forum somebody said they used their Wishblade blades. I didn't realize the Scan n Cut blades are that expensive for the machine. My DH wanted to know about the machine because of quilting. I knew that was going to happen. I saw the Scan N Cut is importing PES files. I am so intrigued to know about this. I have my Brother embroidery machine. I am glad you brought up the blades. That is pretty expensive consumable. I will keep researching and see if I can find anything. I will post if I find an alternative. Cameo users I did an Ebay search for you on the CB09 blade holder with the carbide blades- www.ebay.com/sch/i.html?_nkw=graphtec%20cemented%20carbide%20cb09%20blades&clk_rvr_id=964886791259&mfe=search I hope that is a good start for you.
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Post by gale w on Jan 11, 2016 10:24:45 GMT
Thanks-I have 2 spare blades but would love to find a longer lasting version. I paid around $7 each for the two spares I bought. The extra cost is worth not having to hook up to the computer but even so, I've read that they don't last very long.
My machine is the 350 which does not recognize PES files. I don't do a lot of embroidery (and no applique on my embroidery machine) so I didn't really need it. The 650 does recognize PES.
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Post by OntarioScrapper on Jan 11, 2016 18:39:49 GMT
Another issue is that I have a Cricut Expression and 104 cartridges that are all linked to my Gypsy. There seems to be some kind of issue with getting them to be usable with the Explore. I just don't have time to deal with it right now. However, if these issues are not something that would be a problem for you, the Explore might be a great machine for you, especially if you want to cut heavier materials. Just so you know Cricut will add your carts manually. You would have to take pictures of the physical carts and email them. All my carts linked to my Gypsy were linked to Cricut Craftroom when I used my Expression 2. When I got my Explore, I used the same sign in for Design Space and all my carts were there. I no longer use the Gypsy and have sucessfully added new carts from the port in my Explore into Design Space. There are some problems with certain cartridges like George which have to be manually put into Design Space. Though from what I know you have to link your Gypsy to Craft Room to get your cartridges into your account. You can't link the Gypsy to Design Space. HTH.
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Post by OntarioScrapper on Jan 11, 2016 19:05:28 GMT
I've had my Explore for a year now. I have had a Create and an Expression 2. What I have noticed with the Explore, is that they really push the premade stuff. I think this is why Design Space is so limited. Since I already own a zillion cartridges, I don't mind. I have used the print then cut feature a lot and love it. I just grab images off of google. I made a Steampunk card last year for my niece. I had no Steampunk images with my cartridges so it was great for me to be able to use those images. If you want simple, the Explore will work.
Now the problems I have noticed. I am on several Facebook groups and recently joined Cricut Misfits. A lot of the groups have been approached by Cricut to give the admins free stuff. They try out beta software for the Explore and have even been given machines. In return, the admins now have to silence any thing negative about the Explore and Design Space. Frankly, I am beyond annoyed. My groups were great before and now you have to be careful what you say or deleting happens. I joined the Misfits group and they are a great bunch (though a bit more sailor talk for some people's liking, I don't mind). Then some of the members starting getting banned from other groups. The group has become secret because of it but I don't know how anyone can know if someone is there just to rat on them. It's almost like being on the freaking school yard again!
The one thing I have come to learn is that most LOVE the machine and hate the program Design Space. DS can be glitchy. I have pretty good internet and I'm on a gaming computer so lots of RAM. I don't have many problems. Some have lots. Some bought their machines and when DS got a big overhaul, suddenly their computers were good enough. They were told to update their computers! In DS you can't have too much on your mat. If you do, weird things start happening. I have had images just disappear. I have had DS just hang on me and I can no longer bring up a certain project because I guess I had too much on my mat. I never had this problem with the Gypsy or Craft Room. Some will be told it is their internet connection, their computer or you know it's them. However over Christmas holidays DS was being extra glitchy for some. All those new machines suddenly online. If they are going to have a program that needs to relay heavily on the internet, then they need to fix those problems or they will lose customers.
I do love how my Cricut cuts. I do a lot of vinyl and am highly impressed on how it cuts. I don't buy Cricut brand vinyl because frankly, it sucks. Sign shop vinyl cuts awesome. The new German blades (and that's right, Cricut didn't just make these up themselves, they just know others were buying these blades for their machines because the Cricut blades sucked) do last longer and cut nicer. The new mats sucks. I still have my older mat that came with my Expression 2 and it's fine. My 12x24 mats are fine. However my 12x12 new ones aren't. I have had two break. I have had the last 4 I bought loose spots of stickiness right away no matter what paper I was using. And yes, I was using the desticky method so that it wasn't so sticky. Apparently it's not the mats, it's me. Though now that my warranty is up, I will be getting all the stickiness off my current problem mats and resticking them. It's hard to cut out words when you have spots of no stickiness on your mat! So I do think Cricut has some quality control issues right now.
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Post by scrapnnana on Jan 12, 2016 5:19:46 GMT
Thank you, OntarioScrapper. I appreciate knowing that I can get my carts added manually by Cricut/Provo Craft. I do have the physical cartridges. I just don't have time to sit down and take pictures of over 100 cartridges. We are renovating, selling, and then moving halfway across the country. Maybe by Black Friday 2016 I can consider this issue a bit more when I have unpacked and actually have a scrapbook room. Maybe by then they will have fixed the things I don't like, such as the online requirement and lack of design ability within the software.
I don't need the Explore. I would love to cut my cartridge designs more accurately when sizing down. I want to be able to cut leather. Other than that, I am perfectly happy with my Cameo. I cut vinyl with it all the time, I make my own designs and cut them. It handles the things I need most, and I can cut my cartridge designs on my Expression.
But maybe someday.
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Post by Deleted on Jan 13, 2016 9:01:57 GMT
OntarioScrapper- Thank you for the review. I am really glad you wrote it.
I am really disturbed that ProvoCraft is pulling this Facebook stunt. It reeks of the old days in Cricut world. I thought this was past us now with the new CEO. It was like reading DejaVu again. This was the #1 reason why I didn't want to buy the Explore. I want a company that I trust. If the machine was offline I would still be hesitant but I know I could have a software program that would last as long as my computers. Which is a long time. This machine is a complete Cloud base system. I feel using my Explore is always a gamble if ProvoCraft wants to be a not trustworthy company and the same company only a few years back. You gave me a lot to think about. I still have my receipts. I might be returning. That means my WalMart had every one of the Cricut Explores returned.
Yes, I agree ProvoCraft makes you feel like your in the freaking school yard. Nobody needs that in their life. We need a responsible company.
I was wondering why I am not finding good tutorials online and it seems like a lot of cheerleading. Back in the day Cricut was full of tutorials and help. Now, it seems very closed and elitist. The Silhouette used to be the closed elitist one and now they have the best tutorials and help of all the die cutting machines and the most inspiration too.
Like scrapnnana I bought my Explore to cut my images more accurately when sizing down. I make miniatures. An accurate die cutting machine is a must. It's funny but it was the miniature & scale model world that made me think I should get an Explore. My Expressions is on her last legs. I was going to buy an E2 or another Expression. I do need a die cutter that cuts stronger than the Cameo.
Even though I think the Explore is great. I really do. I don't trust ProvoCraft but the machine is great. It would have been the best machine on the market if it wasn't for their bad software & sketchy business practices of the company. I do prefer my Cameo.
I guess that does make a big point in buying a die cutter for those trying to make a decision. You need good customer service. Look for a cutter with good customer service. ProvoCrafts looks like theirs might be biased. I know Silhouette has great customer service. I did hear a couple of stories about Brother's customer service not being too good. Maybe somebody could chime in that has dealt with Brother.
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Post by scrapnnana on Jan 14, 2016 17:12:02 GMT
Okay, here is my opinion on what is happening with Cricut, but keep in mind, all that follows is only my opinion:
I remember the days when the Wishblade was the first personal electronic cutters available to crafters in the U.S. It was challenging for many to learn to use. I saw lots of reviews from frustrated users saying the Wishblade was crap. It wasn't. It was a good machine, but it took a lot of determination and persistence for me to learn, even using the written tutorials of experienced users. I had paid more for mine than those who bought theirs later, so I made myself spend the time to learn how to use it. Once I knew the ropes, it was fairly easy for me. I loved that machine! Most people absolutely hated it. With a passion. And they were very, very vocal. You don't see the Wishblade anymore. Xyron gave up on it, although Silhouette survived. The Portrait is basically the same machine. Their software was slightly different, but really, I think it came down to Silhouette got smarter about customer service and survived. Xyron didn't seem to want to spend the effort, so they went back to focusing on the Xyron adhesive tools and dumped the Wishblade.
The Explore is not as easy to use as the Cricut Baby Bug and the first Expression. I feel that the Expression was the easiest electronic cutter for crafters, especially crafters who were not used to using graphics programs. It was targeted to that group. The problem was the cost of cartridges really added up over time. The Provo Craft customer service has often been a problem, yet they have managed to stay in the cutter market. The relative ease of the Expression to use is a big reason why. Another reason was that third party software allowed those who wanted to design their own cutting files to have the best of both worlds.
The lawsuit changed everything and customers suddenly dumped their Cricuts for Silhouettes. Provo Craft had to get more competitive to win customers back. They finally had a winner when they came out with the Explore. The Explore is a great machine from all accounts, even if the software isn't the best. Also, I could be wrong, but I think that the Provo Craft CEO created the software (based on some things I read online) or at least had a hand in it. He has a computer programming background. That's part of the reason they hired him.
So I think the squelching opposition tactics they are using is to keep people from saying the machine is crap, like what happened with the Wishblade. It's a good machine, but there is room for a lot of user error, especially with their software. Unhappy customers can really submarine sales by bad mouthing the machine. Some unhappy customers will just say the machine is junk, not realizing the software (and user error) was probably their problem. Potential buyers might see reviews claiming the machine is crap, which discourages the potential buyers from taking the plunge. Even those who realize the software is the issue, are going to discourage potential buyers. Provo Craft undoubtedly spent a lot of money to bring the Explore to the market. They can't afford to have another machine lose money for them like the Imagine did. Besides, if the CEO was at least partly involved in developing the software, I suppose that it might be hard for him or Provo Craft to admit that anything about the software is faulty or causing problems for customers.
All of that is my opinion, but it makes sense to me that they are trying to silence any who don't praise the Explore. A lot of money is on the line, after all. It's really kind of sad, though, because if they'd had good software that could be used offline like Silhouette, it would probably steal the lion's share of the electronic cutter market. The Explore is a great machine for the price, but a lot of potential customers may not believe it because of the frustrated customers who bad mouth it.
Anyway, I think that is probably the reason behind why customers are being silenced (unless they are part of the cheerleading squad). I had really hoped that Provo Craft was actually starting to listen to customer concerns and be responsive to them, but it doesn't really seem like it.
At this point, I don't have time for a new cutter. Maybe I'll consider the Explore for this year's Black Friday, after we have moved and gotten unpacked. In the meantime, I will be watching to see what direction Provo Craft customer service goes, and just keep on using my Cameo as I have time.
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Post by Deleted on Jan 15, 2016 9:22:56 GMT
scrapnnana- I liked your opinion.
I was a Wishblade user too. That thing was hard. It was like you needed a Ph.D to use that machine. I remember every one complaining about it. There was so much complaining, so much closed groups it was a hard system to learn.
I loved the Wishblade & I did enjoy using it. One of the best die cutters I ever owned. Vectors back then were so hard for me. I was into pixel artist back then. I remember my first vector creation took me four days to complete. I was so proud of myself. Funny thing is I actually got proficient at vectors using the Cricut when SCAL came out and SusanBlueRobot started posting tutorials. It was like it clicked. Then I couldn't stop using the Wishblade.
The new CEO used to be with Logitech. He was the vice-president. I knew the Cricut Explore was going to be a good machine and that he could turn the company around. I am probably in the minority but I actually like Logitech items. I knew future Cricut releases would be promising. Why he decided on Cloud software is beyond me. I don't mind that he wants to go in that direction. Everything is going in that direction. I just wish Cricut produce an offline software too. I am not talking about the iPad's offline app . iPad's are expensive. Not only do you have to buy the Explore, you need an iPad to have offline access & then buy all the consumables. A top of the line Klik-n-Kut machine starts looking better at this point.
I do agree that a lot of the complaints are user error. I am also seeing that a lot of the glowing reviews are errors too. Like the Carbide blades were created by ProvoCraft. Read one review where the girl said you can cut thick leather with a regular blade. Yes, you can if you want to destroy your machine. You need the deep cut blade. These are not reviews that are just normal bloggers but reviews from affiliated Cricut bloggers. ProvoCraft needs to be more vigilant about these reviews. Somebody is going to pick up on it and take them to task about it.
After I had a cussing for the past couple of days about Cricut pulling old stunts I decided to keep the machine. Poor machine didn't do anything. I need a machine that cuts .30 styrene and other heavier materials. I could get one of the other machines. Even my DH is like return and get a Scan n' Cut after he had a good cussing too. I read some horror stories last night on a railroad model board I lurk at about the Scan n Cut. Those were not user error stories. I am thinking at this point in the die cutting world all die cutters are drama queens, lol.
Plus, even though I don't trust the company. I don't think Cricut is going anywhere. It's become a norm in the industry.
Has anyone seen or used the new Janome cutter? That one caught my eye this week.
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Post by htstepper on Jan 15, 2016 19:49:12 GMT
You will need the CB09 blade holder for the blades. Silhouette's blade holder you can't change the blades unless you have one of the old ones that came with the caps. I buy my blades on Ebay. No particular seller. I just go with who has the best price. Don't buy Roland blades. You need to buy Graphetec blades when doing your search. For example Graphtec Carbide Blades. Roland blades are for the Cricut. Thanks for that info. I don't think I have any of the old blades. I have had my machine for a few years, but I think they were changing the blade style just as I was getting into my machine. I need to take the plunge. I'm into cutting vinyl and the cuts are supposed to be amazing with some of these aftermarket blades. Silhouette is really missing the boat by not making blade improvements!
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