Deleted
Posts: 0
Apr 24, 2024 13:11:02 GMT
|
Post by Deleted on Jul 25, 2014 5:29:53 GMT
Who is "he"?
|
|
|
Post by *Shannon on Jul 25, 2014 5:35:03 GMT
What do you currently do? Do you have the experience to manage a hotel? Are we talking small family run motel in a touristy area or a fancier hotel downtown?
|
|
Deleted
Posts: 0
Apr 24, 2024 13:11:02 GMT
|
Post by Deleted on Jul 25, 2014 5:58:51 GMT
Why would you even consider taking a job for which you have no training and no experience? Are you even interested in a career in hotel management? Color me puzzled.
|
|
|
Post by gar on Jul 25, 2014 6:41:44 GMT
Running a hotel is a heck of a job to do without any experience/training if you don't mind me saying so. Truly, there is a lot more going on behind the scenes than people imagine, a lot of staff, suppliers, logistics, legalities etc etc. I have no idea about salary in the US but I'll wish you luck - from the wife of a former hotel manager, who ran a couple of them alongside him in an unofficial capacity
|
|
|
Post by Crack-a-lackin on Jul 25, 2014 9:35:02 GMT
Going from a nurse to managing a hotel without prior experience? That's a huge leap. Why does "he" want you to? You'd think anyone who owned a hotel would understand you can't just walk into that job and do it well. He would also know the going rate for a hotel manager.
Is this someone you're in a relationship with?
|
|
|
Post by elaine on Jul 25, 2014 10:54:17 GMT
If he owns several hotels, why not ask to shadow a current manager for a day or two, so that you get some sort of idea of what the job entails, before you say yes.
You may also want to consider that a hotel is a business that is open 24/7, including ALL holidays. You, as a manager, not the owner, could expect to be called at all hours of the day and night about the hotel, and you would work most holidays, as they tend to be busy times for hotels.
|
|
|
Post by ingrid6 on Jul 25, 2014 11:57:35 GMT
Dh and I owned a Bed & Breakfast (that had guest rooms plus 7 cottages) in a tourist area for 10 years. I wish I had shadowed someone and had done more research before buying the inn. It was the hardest 10 years of my life. On call 24/7, worked all holidays, managing the chambermaids, laundry, laundry and more laundry, etc. Just my opinion, but unless you're really interested in hotel management, I wouldn't take this job just because it's the first one that's been offered to you.
Another thing I think is sort of odd - if he knows you don't have experience, why is he asking you for salary info? Shouldn't he be setting that based on your experience a/o lack of?
Good luck with whatever you decide to do!
|
|
|
Post by sisterbdsq on Jul 25, 2014 13:40:12 GMT
Run away!
|
|
|
Post by JustCallMeMommy on Jul 25, 2014 14:23:17 GMT
When you are a manager of a hotel, I would imagine that you are on call 24x7 to address major issues that may come up, and I would also expect major issues to come up pretty often. My dad did this for a while when I was in elementary school, and it seemed like a pretty high stress situation.
ETA: When I am asked for salary requirements I usually say something like, "Salary.com lists the salary for similar positions in this area as a range from $X to $Y. I would be comfortable in that range/in the top half of that range/etc." If you are currently working and must make more than you are making now, you should make sure the range you are giving is above that amount.
|
|
|
Post by ChicagoKTS on Jul 25, 2014 14:53:02 GMT
Is this a now or never type deal? Can you ask for a year to take some hotel management courses to at least understand what you would be getting into? I think it's great you want to reinvent yourself and try something new but I am afraid you are just setting yourself up to fail taking on so much with no real experience. There has to be a big learning curve when it comes to managing a hotel. You're not talking about walking into a Subway shop and training to make sandwiches. Or could you try an assistant manager position first and learn the ropes under someone who presumably knows that he or she is doing before taking this giant leap?
|
|
|
Post by hennybutton on Jul 25, 2014 15:11:18 GMT
Can't help with salary. However, DH has a cousin who is a hotel manager. His wife is in the industry as well. In my opinion, it's a hell of a job. They work long hours: nights, weekends, whenever. I don't know if this is still the case, but during most of their marriage, they've worked conflicting schedules. They often miss family parties because of work.
Count me in as surprised that this owner is offering someone who has no education or experience in the hospitality industry to be a hotel manager. Did he say why he thought you'd be a good fit? I'm sure you're a great person and a hard worker, but I wonder if you're a right fit for the job. More importantly, you can't even know if the job is a right fit for you.
|
|
valleyview
Pearl Clutcher
Posts: 2,816
Jun 27, 2014 18:41:26 GMT
|
Post by valleyview on Jul 25, 2014 15:33:32 GMT
If he owns several hotels, why not ask to shadow a current manager for a day or two, so that you get some sort of idea of what the job entails, before you say yes. You may also want to consider that a hotel is a business that is open 24/7, including ALL holidays. You, as a manager, not the owner, could expect to be called at all hours of the day and night about the hotel, and you would work most holidays, as they tend to be busy times for hotels. Ditto on this. My family owned a small motel years ago. Owning it was a pain, but it was the manager's responsibility to be there physically whenever extra things came up. Managing and finding qualified staff in a small town is difficult. You would need good accounting skills, problem solving, an understanding of maintenance issues, thick skin, and no desire for normal hours. Good luck with that! Sorry if this sounds harsh, but hotel management is really tough.
|
|
|
Post by peano on Jul 25, 2014 15:51:56 GMT
You need to sit down and watch a few episodes of Hotel Impossible on the Travel Channel and then reassess. Also, if the owner wants to hire someone with no experience he is a moron. Do you want to work for a moron?
|
|
perumbula
Pearl Clutcher
Posts: 3,439
Location: Idaho
Jun 26, 2014 18:51:17 GMT
|
Post by perumbula on Jul 25, 2014 16:11:00 GMT
In my experience when people do something like this it's because they expect you to low ball and they want to save money.
|
|
Deleted
Posts: 0
Apr 24, 2024 13:11:02 GMT
|
Post by Deleted on Jul 25, 2014 16:56:32 GMT
I'd say it is a red flag that he has a LPN "helping out on occasion" that has virtually no experience in the industry. Does he pay you wages to do that for him? Why does he have new employees calling you for help? And he wants you to go from helping occasionally to managing the whole hotel? What kind of training are you going to get? Have you ever managed employees (especially many in different job positions)? Being a temp/substitute is very very different from managing the place on a full-time basis.
|
|
|
Post by krc11 on Jul 25, 2014 18:16:31 GMT
With the explanations from OP, it sounds more reasonable that they are asking. It sounds like they think you have the skill set. They probably feel more comfortable with hiring someone they know, who is trustworthy and a good worker, figuring they can teach you the rest. It is a big leap though. And I'm guessing they aren't going to want to give you a huge salary, otherwise they'd hire someone with experience. My guess is they are fishing to find out how much you earn now to see if it's in the realm. For example if they only were thinking to pay $1000K a month and you already make $2000K, they know you won't leave your current position for that position.
|
|
|
Post by gmcwife1 on Jul 25, 2014 18:48:54 GMT
With the explanations from OP, it sounds more reasonable that they are asking. It sounds like they think you have the skill set. They probably feel more comfortable with hiring someone they know, who is trustworthy and a good worker, figuring they can teach you the rest. It is a big leap though. And I'm guessing they aren't going to want to give you a huge salary, otherwise they'd hire someone with experience. My guess is they are fishing to find out how much you earn now to see if it's in the realm. For example if they only were thinking to pay $1000K a month and you already make $2000K, they know you won't leave your current position for that position. I agree with this! Hospitality is a tough field so good luck if you decide to get into it
|
|