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Post by Deleted on Jan 23, 2016 16:07:06 GMT
Randomly browsing CNN during a blizzard, you find the most interesting things. I'm such a dork, this brought tears to my eyes. I never heard of "haka" before, I know we have NewZealand peas, is this common in your experience? Haka Wedding Tribute
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Post by gar on Jan 23, 2016 16:09:29 GMT
I did see this.....great wasn't it! You're obviously not a rugby fan  There was a clip doing the Facebook round recently of the haka being performed at a funeral...very moving. Funeral haka
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Post by Deleted on Jan 23, 2016 16:11:34 GMT
I did see this.....great wasn't it! You're obviously not a rugby fan  There was a clip doing the Facebook round recently of the haka being performed at a funeral...very moving. LOL, not a rugby fan. And not on Facebook...so my excited discoveries are yesterdays news to most people!
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Post by gar on Jan 23, 2016 16:12:48 GMT
I added a clip for you
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Post by Deleted on Jan 23, 2016 16:16:40 GMT
Wow, that was really cool! TFS
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Post by Dalai Mama on Jan 23, 2016 16:16:58 GMT
I'm currently sitting in a choir practice watching 40 kids prepare a haka for competition. Our director is from NZ and we do at least one Maori piece a year. The kids LOVE it!
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Post by Deleted on Jan 23, 2016 16:18:42 GMT
I added a clip for you OMG, that was amazing, thank you!!
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Post by danor98 on Jan 23, 2016 16:18:46 GMT
OMG, I love this and I loved the rugby one too. I don't know what fascinates me, maybe it is because it is so primal or so steeped in custom. It is fascinating. I love the brief moment we see of the bride doing it, the groom was also shown mouthing it at one point, too, I think>
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Post by gar on Jan 23, 2016 16:21:39 GMT
maybe it is because it is so primal or so steeped in custom I think that's what I love about it.
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Post by LavenderLayoutLady on Jan 23, 2016 16:36:11 GMT
I never heard of "haka" before, I had never seen that before, either, until just now. Wow, that is powerful.
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Post by gar on Jan 23, 2016 16:40:41 GMT
Here's a rugby performance, for your viewing pleasure HakaI'd love to hear some of the history from our NZ peas!
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Post by BarbaraUK on Jan 23, 2016 16:42:59 GMT
I never heard of "haka" before, I had never seen that before, either, until just now. Wow, that is powerful. You should see the All Blacks perform it before a rugby match! ETA: See gar had already provided a link to that just before this post.
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Post by Dalai Mama on Jan 23, 2016 16:50:35 GMT
I don't know what fascinates me, maybe it is because it is so primal or so steeped in custom. It is fascinating. For me, it's that concept of Maori mana.
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Post by hockeymom4 on Jan 23, 2016 17:03:30 GMT
Was at a wedding in Scotland years ago, bride was half Maori, groomsmen did Haka in kilts!!!!!!! Wish I had a video of that!!!!!!
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Post by Deleted on Jan 23, 2016 17:24:49 GMT
There's a large Polynesian culture in Utah and there's a lot of football players. They do haka (s)? at games. It caused a controversy a while back. Most people were like WTF? They've been doing this for years. Why the complaints now? LINK TO VIDEO AND STORY
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Post by katlady on Jan 23, 2016 17:42:57 GMT
I remember one story from a few years ago. A team (I don't remember if they were from Hawaii) were doing the Haka before the game. They usually do it facing the opposing team. Well, there is one gesture in their Haka that looks like they are telling the other team to F-off, if you know what I mean. It doesn't mean that, but that is how it was interpreted and it did not go over well. I know that after that the U of H did the Haka only facing their own sideline.
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Post by BarbaraUK on Jan 23, 2016 18:02:22 GMT
I remember one story from a few years ago. A team (I don't remember if they were from Hawaii) were doing the Haka before the game. They usually do it facing the opposing team. Well, there is one gesture in their Haka that looks like they are telling the other team to F-off, if you know what I mean. It doesn't mean that, but that is how it was interpreted and it did not go over well. I know that after that the U of H did the Haka only facing their own sideline. People love seeing the All Blacks New Zealand rugby team doing the Haka before the kick-off here - they would feel cheated if the team faced the crowd! During the rugby World Cup last year the All Blacks even managed to intimidate the French team......and believe me, they are no wimps!
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Post by papercrafteradvocate on Jan 23, 2016 18:17:56 GMT
Awesome!! I'm sitting here crying--how epically beautiful!
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Post by FurryP on Jan 23, 2016 18:50:54 GMT
I've seen that at the Polynesian Culture Center in Hawaii. Also have seen it in the intro on one of the MTV Challenge seasons.
I love it! I didn't know the name.
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Post by gillyp on Jan 23, 2016 19:04:55 GMT
I remember one story from a few years ago. A team (I don't remember if they were from Hawaii) were doing the Haka before the game. They usually do it facing the opposing team. Well, there is one gesture in their Haka that looks like they are telling the other team to F-off, if you know what I mean. It doesn't mean that, but that is how it was interpreted and it did not go over well. I know that after that the U of H did the Haka only facing their own sideline. People love seeing the All Blacks New Zealand rugby team doing the Haka before the kick-off here - they would feel cheated if the team faced the crowd! During the rugby World Cup last year the All Blacks even managed to intimidate the French team......and believe me, they are no wimps! I believe the French got into trouble one time for advancing on the All Blacks while they were performing. I have loved the Haka from the first time I saw it many years ago. The sheer energy and commitment of the team/squad is incredible and so motivational. I would so like to see one in person instead of the tv or Internet. Maybe I should put it on my bucket list.
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Post by Tamhugh on Jan 23, 2016 19:10:57 GMT
I watched that video yesterday and found it really moving, even though I didn't understand it. When the men lined up and hugged the groom and touched foreheads, it made me bawl. It seemed like such a meaningful way of welcoming him to their family.
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Post by lumo on Jan 23, 2016 19:14:21 GMT
I love the haka. I agree with the previous poster that it just strikes something so primal and ancient.
The haka the schoolboys did at their teacher's funeral was so moving.
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Post by KiwiJo on Jan 23, 2016 20:20:46 GMT
Yes, haka are pretty common here, usually as a mark of honour. Many of our sports teams perform one before a international game - it is formal in rugby, where it is done in the middle of the field, with the opposition facing them, but in some other sports it is more informal, done on the sideline.
There is almost always a haka when important visitors are called onto a marae. Marae are the traditional hub of a Maori settlement, and there are many marae through New Zealand - our Maori people (in the main) are very keen to keep traditions alive).
So it is quite an event when a very important visitor arrives at a marae. an Elder woman "calls" the visitor onto the marae with a haunting solo, unaccompanied chant. The visitor(s) slowly walk into the courtyard area, accompanied by male Elders.
Then the visitor is challenged - a male 'warrior' performs a sort of war dance and during the process drops a twig with leaves on the ground. In order to show peaceful and trusting intent, the visitor must walk forward, keeping his eyes on the warrior, and pick up the twig. A haka is performed, and a waiata (an honoring dance/song by women) then the visitor can proceed into the meeting house.
Most children, of all ethnicities, learn haka and waiata - it is just delightful to watch a haka performed by a bunch of 8 year olds at a school concert - Maori and Pacifica of course, but also white, Indian, Asian......
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Post by FurryP on Jan 23, 2016 20:21:59 GMT
RE: FUNERAL HAKA....Did it annoy anyone else that some of the participants didn't get fully off the road when they were finished and the funeral car continued to drive on?
One side was completely off the road, the other side had some stragglers that did not back up all the way. Yes, I know, it is an irrational annoyance. Didn't help that their clothes didn't match. LOL
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Post by Deleted on Jan 23, 2016 21:03:10 GMT
I watched that video yesterday and found it really moving, even though I didn't understand it. When the men lined up and hugged the groom and touched foreheads, it made me bawl. It seemed like such a meaningful way of welcoming him to their family. It was the groom's family/friends who did the haka. The bride's tears were because his family was welcoming her, showing her the love and respect.
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Post by casii on Jan 23, 2016 21:59:20 GMT
I love to see a good haka and this one makes me weepy every time I watch it. Weddings are stressful, even if they are a happy stress. If only all unions could begin with such a passionate and heartfelt show of community support.
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Post by Deleted on Jan 23, 2016 22:15:31 GMT
Yes, haka are pretty common here, usually as a mark of honour. Many of our sports teams perform one before a international game - it is formal in rugby, where it is done in the middle of the field, with the opposition facing them, but in some other sports it is more informal, done on the sideline. There is almost always a haka when important visitors are called onto a marae. Marae are the traditional hub of a Maori settlement, and there are many marae through New Zealand - our Maori people (in the main) are very keen to keep traditions alive). So it is quite an event when a very important visitor arrives at a marae. an Elder woman "calls" the visitor onto the marae with a haunting solo, unaccompanied chant. The visitor(s) slowly walk into the courtyard area, accompanied by male Elders. Then the visitor is challenged - a male 'warrior' performs a sort of war dance and during the process drops a twig with leaves on the ground. In order to show peaceful and trusting intent, the visitor must walk forward, keeping his eyes on the warrior, and pick up the twig. A haka is performed, and a waiata (an honoring dance/song by women) then the visitor can proceed into the meeting house. Most children, of all ethnicities, learn haka and waiata - it is just delightful to watch a haka performed by a bunch of 8 year olds at a school concert - Maori and Pacifica of course, but also white, Indian, Asian...... Thanks so much for this inside info, KiwiJo
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Post by gar on Jan 23, 2016 23:27:20 GMT
RE: FUNERAL HAKA....Did it annoy anyone else that some of the participants didn't get fully off the road when they were finished and the funeral car continued to drive on? One side was completely off the road, the other side had some stragglers that did not back up all the way. Yes, I know, it is an irrational annoyance. Didn't help that their clothes didn't match. LOL No, I hadn't even noticed about some kids still standing on the road and I hadn't thought about their non matched clothes either. I was more impressed about the respect and tribute they were paying to their teacher.
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Post by AussieMeg on Jan 24, 2016 1:11:46 GMT
Well, there is one gesture in their Haka that looks like they are telling the other team to F-off, if you know what I mean. It doesn't mean that, but that is how it was interpreted and it did not go over well. Well yeah, that's pretty much what they ARE saying LOL! F-off and we're gonna smash you. And when it comes to rugby, they usually DO smash everyone! I believe the French got into trouble one time for advancing on the All Blacks while they were performing. I reckon most nations have done something similar at one time or another when the All Blacks are performing the Haka...... Ireland advancing on the All Blacks. Tonga doing their own version of the Haka (can't remember what it is called). The Welsh with their stand off. But when the French turned their backs, that was so incredibly rude. The English team singing Swing Low Sweet Chariot and drowning our the Haka wasn't much better. The Australian women's team was fined for advancing, and our men's team were warned not to do it. I absolutely love it when the All black do it before a rugby match, and think that opposing sides should respect it. I would love to see it live one day.
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Post by lurkingsince2001 on Jan 24, 2016 1:25:32 GMT
And here I thought I was weird for watching haka videos! Always so moving. Thanks for the links.
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