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Post by Zee on Feb 3, 2016 23:03:55 GMT
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Post by Deleted on Feb 3, 2016 23:19:45 GMT
It's Anne Boleyn not Boylen and usually pronounced as Bo-lynn although I agree it does sound like Bow-lynn when it's said with an upper class British accent! A few books had the lower classes calling her Nan Bullen. How many ways can you say a name lol. I don't know about the lower class calling her that but the name Bullen came from the various spellings on historical records that refers to her father mainly. Although there are a few records of her using different spellings of her name.There was no standardized spelling in England at that time. Nan was a version of Ann during that time and it was considered derogatory to call the Queen of England by a shortened name.
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Post by perumbula on Feb 3, 2016 23:20:50 GMT
Cool. I love linguistic stuff like that @z*G Thanks for posting it. So basically, we call Germany that because the Romans did. The name goes back even farther than the French conquest of England. Cool to know.
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Post by johna on Feb 3, 2016 23:22:57 GMT
I thought this thread was going to be about this store nameI have never heard of the store, but I would have pronounced it "Zarra" as well.
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Post by 950nancy on Feb 3, 2016 23:41:22 GMT
Anne Boylen. I thought it was Boy Lynn. I have since heard historians pronounce it Bowlin. Who knows? It's Anne Boleyn not Boylen and usually pronounced as Bo-lynn although I agree it does sound like Bow-lynn when it's said with an upper class British accent! @peano beat you to it! It makes so much more sense when you actually read the word correctly. I do love the British pronunciation of words.
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Post by AussieMeg on Feb 3, 2016 23:52:30 GMT
My in laws travel a lot. When they went to South Africa they came home telling my kids about zeb-ras (zeb rhyming with the end of celeb). ZEB-ra is correct.
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Post by AussieMeg on Feb 3, 2016 23:54:01 GMT
This reminds me of the time my son returned from study abroad in London. He visited me at school, and my students asked him to "Speak English" to them. He had them at "al-u-min-e-um. " al-you-MIN-e-um is correct too!
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Post by Deleted on Feb 4, 2016 0:04:14 GMT
I know a family with the last name Theurer; pronounced tire.
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Post by kate on Feb 4, 2016 0:13:11 GMT
Oh, I love Versailles, Ohio - Versailles in French = Vehr-SIGH Versailles in Ohio = Vuhr-SAILS
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Post by Deleted on Feb 4, 2016 0:21:15 GMT
One I wanted to add that is mispronounced by so many people, including newscasters; Nevada. It is Ne-vadd-a, not Ne-vaww-da.
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Post by anniefb on Feb 4, 2016 0:28:57 GMT
We say zebra not zeebra in the UK. Same in New Zealand. The last letter of the alphabet is also 'zed' not 'zee'.
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Post by Zee on Feb 4, 2016 0:34:01 GMT
We say zebra not zeebra in the UK. Same in New Zealand. The last letter of the alphabet is also 'zed' not 'zee'.
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Post by AllieC on Feb 4, 2016 0:39:47 GMT
Same in New Zealand. The last letter of the alphabet is also 'zed' not 'zee'. LOL, this made me laugh. Same in Australia with zed!
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Post by anniefb on Feb 4, 2016 0:40:36 GMT
Vienna is spelled Wien and pronounced Vienne in Austria because W's are pronounced like 'V's and V's like W's. The letter v is usually pronounced like the English /f/ eg viel [feel] = a lot/many or vier [feer] = four.
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Post by AussieMeg on Feb 4, 2016 0:44:37 GMT
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Post by Zee on Feb 4, 2016 0:45:38 GMT
So you all go through those alphabet books with your children and come to the end and are all like "Zed is for Zebbra" My world has been rocked to its core. I actually knew about the zebbras, thanks to David Attenborough's fabulous narration of various nature documentaries, but ZED???
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Post by AussieMeg on Feb 4, 2016 0:46:44 GMT
One I wanted to add that is mispronounced by so many people, including newscasters; Nevada. It is Ne-vadd-a, not Ne-vaww-da. We pronounce that Nev-AH-duh. That must make you twitch LOL!!
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Post by valleyview on Feb 4, 2016 0:46:50 GMT
This reminds me of the time my son returned from study abroad in London. He visited me at school, and my students asked him to "Speak English" to them. He had them at "al-u-min-e-um. " al-you-MIN-e-um is correct too! I think we are using the same pronunciation, and you did a better job of writing it out. I had been thinking that I did not explain accented syllable and long e sound well. It really was funny to see kids realise that not all English words are pronounced (or even spelled) the same. We have a DIL who has a "boot" in her car. It drives DH crazy when she says that, especially because she drives an SUV. He thinks that rear area is cargo space.
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Post by AussieMeg on Feb 4, 2016 0:48:18 GMT
So you all go through those alphabet books with your children and come to the end and are all like "Zed is for Zebbra" My world has been rocked to its core. I actually knew about the zebbras, thanks to David Attenborough's fabulous narration of various nature documentaries, but ZED??? I'm surprised you didn't know that the rest of the world pronounces it ZED.
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Post by Deleted on Feb 4, 2016 0:48:52 GMT
One I wanted to add that is mispronounced by so many people, including newscasters; Nevada. It is Ne-vadd-a, not Ne-vaww-da. We pronounce that Nev-AH-duh. That must make you twitch LOL!! Not if you're from another country! That probably makes we weird.
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Post by lesley on Feb 4, 2016 0:52:51 GMT
The letter v is usually pronounced like the English /f/ eg viel [feel] = a lot/many or vier [feer] = four. Hmm, the way you have written the phoneme like that (/f/) makes me think you must have studied linguistics and/or phonetics? And Zee, it's making me giggle how shocked you are that the rest of the English-speaking world says 'zed'!
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Post by Zee on Feb 4, 2016 0:55:33 GMT
What can I say, I've never ever heard of "zed". I might have believed you if you told me that's what it was in Greek or something, but why is it different only here? Makes no sense! Nor does Aluminum/Aluminium, but whatever. At least those are spelled differently. I've never heard anyone say the letter Z that wasn't American, I guess. If you have two Lauras in a class, one would be Laura S--ess--and the other Z, ZED? Not Laura Zee? I knew a Laura Z. Now it's like she has an alternate last name. My God--how do you say X? ? Don't tell me. I still have to process this and tell my husband, too.
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Post by anniefb on Feb 4, 2016 1:02:08 GMT
What can I say, I've never ever heard of "zed". I might have believed you if you told me that's what it was in Greek or something, but why is it different only here? Makes no sense! Nor does Aluminum/Aluminium, but whatever. At least those are spelled differently. I've never heard anyone say the letter Z that wasn't American, I guess. If you have two Lauras in a class, one would be Laura S--ess--and the other Z, ZED? Not Laura Zee? I knew a Laura Z. Now it's like she has an alternate last name. My God--how do you say X? ? Don't tell me. I still have to process this and tell my husband, too. X = 'ex'
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Post by 950nancy on Feb 4, 2016 1:06:21 GMT
This reminds me of the time my son returned from study abroad in London. He visited me at school, and my students asked him to "Speak English" to them. He had them at "al-u-min-e-um. " al-you-MIN-e-um is correct too! I was fascinated the first time I heard Daniel Radcliff say this.
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Post by hennybutton on Feb 4, 2016 1:09:18 GMT
How about Gloucester or Leicester? Pronounced Glawster and Lester. Then there is Houston Street in NYC pronounced Howston, it demarks the northern side of SoHo aka South of Houston. I know the answer to Gloucester and Leicester. When we look at those names, we divide the syllables in the wrong places. They should be Glouce-ster and Leice-ster. Divide the syllables correctly and it's easier to pronounce them correctly.
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Post by oldcrow on Feb 4, 2016 1:10:49 GMT
So you all go through those alphabet books with your children and come to the end and are all like "Zed is for Zebbra" My world has been rocked to its core. I actually knew about the zebbras, thanks to David Attenborough's fabulous narration of various nature documentaries, but ZED??? It is zed in Canada too. But we say zee bra.
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Post by bc2ca on Feb 4, 2016 1:16:08 GMT
That was an interesting list - thanks for sharing. DH has a number of employees that commute from Tijuana and he drives me crazy because he always adds the extra "a" - it's not Ti ajuana!! He insisted that reporters say it the same way he does, and they don't. Zee, even though the rest of the English speaking world recognizes "zed" as the last letter of the alphabet, ZZ Top was never known as Zed Zed Top (at least not in Canada).
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Post by 950nancy on Feb 4, 2016 1:20:24 GMT
There ain't no rhyme or reason to that one. I remember thinking it was crazy as a kid.
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Post by Zee on Feb 4, 2016 1:59:20 GMT
That was an interesting list - thanks for sharing. DH has a number of employees that commute from Tijuana and he drives me crazy because he always adds the extra "a" - it's not Ti ajuana!! He insisted that reporters say it the same way he does, and they don't. Zee, even though the rest of the English speaking world recognizes "zed" as the last letter of the alphabet, ZZ Top was never known as Zed Zed Top (at least not in Canada). Oh thank God. I'm still reeling, that would have put me over the edge! My Canadian friend just confirmed that she says zed too. My husband hasn't gotten back to me on my text.
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Post by iowgirl on Feb 4, 2016 2:00:53 GMT
Z*G, even though the rest of the English speaking world recognizes "zed" as the last letter of the alphabet, ZZ Top was never known as Zed Zed Top (at least not in Canada). This made me laugh as hard as @z*G meme did. I knew about "zed" but forgot. ZedZed Top is going to be hard to get out of my mind now...
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