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Post by daisydonna on Feb 4, 2016 15:25:58 GMT
I apologize if I asked this before or if anyone has already but I figure I could use some fresh perspectives.
After divorce how do you scrap? Include X in pages? Divorce was heartbreaking for all of us...and to be honest even looking at pics from our life before is so painful for me and kids. I am taking about pics from life and events years ago...I don't have any pics at all of X from our current life and events.
I recently moved and am getting ready to reorganize my scrap stuff and pics and would love some insight from those that have gone through the same thing.
Also...keep those old (when kids were babies etc) scrapbooks out and accessible? Remove X from those and just set those actual pictures aside?
Thank u for any comments...I really need to purge etc and want to have a game plan so I can happily scrap going forward.
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Post by jenb72 on Feb 4, 2016 15:30:58 GMT
I don't scrap those pictures. Or at least, I don't scrap the ones that I hadn't already in the past. I have the tucked away in a photo box because I know, at some point, one or all of my kids will ask me for them, so I don't want to get rid of them or destroy them.
As far as scrapbooking, I focus on the now. I don't really scrapbook chronologically anyway, so it hasn't been all that difficult.
Jen
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Post by loco coco on Feb 4, 2016 15:31:21 GMT
I would skip the years with him that you haven't scrapped yet, not every year has to be scrapped. Can you start a fresh album with your current life and events?
I hope you have fun in your new scrap space
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Post by KikiPea on Feb 4, 2016 15:39:53 GMT
I would only scrap current times. I would not remove his photos from the albums already made, because he was actually there for those moments. I'd put them away for safe keeping.
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Post by Deleted on Feb 4, 2016 15:48:23 GMT
I agree with the others. Keep the ones that are already scrapped and set aside those that aren't. Whatever you do, don't get rid of them. As painful as it is now to even think about, your ex is part of your family's history. One day someone in your family's future will want to know that history.
My grandparents were divorced, and they both got rid of everything relating to the other. My mom has just one picture of herself with both her parents when she was three years old. She treasures it, because even though a lot of heartache resulted from their divorce and the ensuing bitterness, she likes the idea that at one time they were a family. Both of them are now deceased, so she displays the picture in a frame. Before they died, she kept it hidden away. I always thought it was sad that she felt like she had to deny her history because the two of them didn't get along.
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Post by myboysnme on Feb 4, 2016 15:49:41 GMT
In my case, I did not have children with my ex, but I did scrap photos of him and me together. I tossed all the photos of him by himself.
I am a child of divorce as well and even though it was a horrendous time, I do think if you can stand it scrap photos of the kids with their dad. Also it meant the world to me to have a few photos of my dad and mom together because it showed me that they did love each other at one point.
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Post by ilikepink on Feb 4, 2016 15:49:53 GMT
I wouldn't remove the X from past books - that's a disservice to your children. Put away, for now, the pictures that include him--perhaps in the future you'll be able to scrap them. Focus on your current life-the move and the new life you are making. From experience, I know how hard it is - but in time, those old memories will be sweeter than they are now.
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Post by mom on Feb 4, 2016 16:03:30 GMT
Definitely keep any special photos of x with the kids. You don't have to do anything with them now, but he is still their dad and they might want to scrapbook them later.
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Post by mikklynn on Feb 4, 2016 16:06:08 GMT
I would only scrap current times. I would not remove his photos from the albums already made, because he was actually there for those moments. I'd put them away for safe keeping. This is what I would do, also. Those earlier years are your family history.
I have the problem with our DS and former DIL, whom we still adore. Do I remove her photos from display in our home? I don't want our grandchildren to feel weird about no photos of their mom, but I also respect our DS's feelings. UGH! I am thinking I'll remove them from public view, like the family room, but leave in the bedroom the grandkids use.
Sorry, didn't mean to hijack your thread, OP.
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Post by Deleted on Feb 4, 2016 16:10:10 GMT
I'm divorced with no kids and I threw a ton of pics out. Time has softened me and I wish I would have kept some of them. Put them away and think about it. You may eventually change your mind.
Ann
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Post by anonrefugee on Feb 4, 2016 17:00:57 GMT
We have no photos of my mother's birth father. My Grandmother divorced him very early, and she was persuaded by relatives to toss photos. I know he was tall, but that's about it. My mother doesn't look like her half-siblings, is taller. she will never bad-mouth her mother but I think she would have benefitted from knowing what he looked like.
Divorce was less common in the 1930s, but now it's part of many family histories. If you don't want emotions of scrapping them, you put them in envelopes with notes? Maybe later your kids will put in a photo album, or you'll feel like scrapping but history won't be lost. Hugs!
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Post by anonrefugee on Feb 4, 2016 17:06:59 GMT
My BFF went through a horrific divorce after 21 years. It was a shock to friends because they were a dream family.
Now that's it's been a few years (5-7) she is able to remember how great most of the time was, and hold those memories separate from the end. Her kids are adults now and it's healthy for them, to know that. She's said it makes her feel like decades of life weren't wasted.
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Post by Deleted on Feb 4, 2016 17:34:28 GMT
I scrap for my son, so I've always included the pics of him with his father. I left the ones done as they were that we were in together before the divorce, and if we had some mutual event, I actually tried to get pics of them together because I know that is something the ex wouldn't think to do.
I have even asked him to send me pics when he does things with out son. I would find it weird to leave out such a big part of his life.
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Post by Deleted on Feb 4, 2016 17:35:19 GMT
I apologize if I asked this before or if anyone has already but I figure I could use some fresh perspectives. After divorce how do you scrap? Include X in pages? Divorce was heartbreaking for all of us...and to be honest even looking at pics from our life before is so painful for me and kids. I am taking about pics from life and events years ago...I don't have any pics at all of X from our current life and events. I recently moved and am getting ready to reorganize my scrap stuff and pics and would love some insight from those that have gone through the same thing. Also...keep those old (when kids were babies etc) scrapbooks out and accessible? Remove X from those and just set those actual pictures aside? Thank u for any comments...I really need to purge etc and want to have a game plan so I can happily scrap going forward. I left my pre-divorce books "as is" They aren't out but are easily accessible (behind a door in my living room entertainment center) So if the kids want to look they can but they aren't as openly visible as they would be on a book shelf. At the time we separated I stopped scrapping for a couple of years. What scrapping I have done has been post divorce life. I haven't yet gone back to my unscrapped pre-divorce life. It has been 11 years and the pain IS much less raw than it was but I'm not ready to immerse myself in past history. The photos are neatly arranged in photo boxes with journaling notes interspersed among them (done before the marriage exploded) Someday I may get back to it and do. Or I may leave it for the kids/grandkids to do as part of their life story from their perspective. I think sometimes we get wrapped up in all the story has to be from our perspective... it doesn't. While future generations may (or may not care) want to hear our perspective doesn't mean that is owed to them.
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Post by justkat on Feb 4, 2016 17:41:10 GMT
Take my advice with a grain of salt as I've not ever been divorced..... I understand divorce is painful. I also understand that photos of your ex and/or happier times is painful. But. But at some point this person was a big part of your life. Do you want your scrapbooks to be a realistic representation of your life or a fairy tale version? If your answer is that you want them to reflect your actual life then leave them as is. Any finished scrapbooks should be left as is, pictures of ex intact. If you need/want to scrap events that include your ex do so in a way that highlights photos that he's not in but include him in other ways. For example, use a picture that includes him on a pull-out tag or that's hidden behind a flap. Your children, and even you in the future, are able to see that he was a part of the event but as his ex you're not staring at him every time you look through your books. I'm pretty sure that your children will appreciate having those memories. Or, as another pea has said, if you don't want to/are unable to scrap your ex don't destroy or get rid of the photos. Place them in an envelope and save them for the future, for either yourself or your children. If nothing else it gives you options which are always good to have.
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Post by Delta Dawn on Feb 4, 2016 17:54:01 GMT
I have a couple of photos of my ex-husband who is my son's father in my scrapbooks. I don't have a whole ton of photos of him as he kept all the photos I had when we split. I think there are only 3 photos of him in all my books. I did that for DS' benefit. If DS wants to see layouts of him and dad and his grandparents then I have them. It's too bad, but what can I do?
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Post by JustCallMeMommy on Feb 4, 2016 17:54:44 GMT
At some point, I will go back and "catch up." When I do, I will include those pictures because they were part of the history. Mostly, my pictures revolve around DD anyway, and he didn't jump in a ton of pictures. When I do go back, I think it will be digital; in some ways, I think it is easier to include them than to weed them out.
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Post by myboysnme on Feb 4, 2016 18:46:34 GMT
I answered above but I'm just going to toss this in. I have this sort of fantasy that someday maybe grandchildren or even great grandchildren may look at my books and may be going through something. Maybe knowing I went through it all those many years earlier will resonate with them or even be comforting. They can see life goes on even after the person you thought you couldn't live without. You see that there were characteristics of that person that made them the right one and the wrong one. You see that people change and evolve and grow.
I don't focus on the negative but I am honest in my scrapbooks. When I scrapped some pics of me and ex at our wedding I titled them "Not so happily ever after" and journalled that "..even though we thought it was the right decision, after 5 years we finally called it quits and should have done so years before."
For me it's all part of scrapping the hard stuff along with the great stuff which is what I enjoy. Kind of like an autobiography in photos and stories. Keeping it real....
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Post by jeremysgirl on Feb 4, 2016 18:57:10 GMT
I had the good fortune that my scrapbooking was very current. But when really rocky times in my life hit in 2008 and 2009, I could not bear to scrapbook them. It was when my marriage and my life, in general, just started really falling apart. What I ended up doing was I sold all my scrapbook stuff. When life got back to normal in 2011, I started digi scrapping from that point on. When I really felt better about things, I ended up taking those pictures from those bad years and putting them in premade Shutterfly albums. I did one album for each year. This way, the kids will have them when they get older, but I did not have to go through the pain of scrapbooking them myself. I think this was a really happy medium for me. My books are ultimately for my kids. My ex is a part of their life too. He does not appear in anything post 2011, but the earlier years, he is still a part of. I gave my wedding album to my dd.
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Post by Deleted on Feb 4, 2016 19:15:58 GMT
For me it's all part of scrapping the hard stuff along with the great stuff which is what I enjoy. Kind of like an autobiography in photos and stories. Keeping it real.... I think it also depends on why you scrap. Do what works for you. I personally don't want an autobiography of myself to leave my family. I prefer to scrap the good things. For *me*, scrapping the bad moments is not helpful. Even if there is some lesson learned, I don't like putting personal things out there for others to view. Take your time and do what feels best. I think I would buy divided sheet protectors that hold 6 4x6 photos and put them in an album away from view for awhile. You can always scrap them later if you want.
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Post by leftturnonly on Feb 4, 2016 19:28:48 GMT
Also...keep those old (when kids were babies etc) scrapbooks out and accessible? Remove X from those and just set those actual pictures aside? Don't leave those albums out casually. Put them on a shelf, in a closet, etc. Leave them alone, just as they are. You don't ever have to look at them again, but someday, your children or grandchildren may enjoy seeing those moments in time as they were. From now on, only scrap your life without the X and leave those around for people to look at.
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Post by Deleted on Feb 4, 2016 19:29:35 GMT
I scrap for me. When I divorced, I completely stopped scrapping my life events and make a few gift albums. But I kept all the pictures so some day DS can decide what is important to him.
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Post by leftturnonly on Feb 4, 2016 19:33:19 GMT
My BFF went through a horrific divorce after 21 years. It was a shock to friends because they were a dream family. Now that's it's been a few years (5-7) she is able to remember how great most of the time was, and hold those memories separate from the end. Her kids are adults now and it's healthy for them, to know that. She's said it makes her feel like decades of life weren't wasted. What a healthy perspective your friend is able to embrace! Good for her.
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Post by Rainbow on Feb 4, 2016 19:36:27 GMT
I apologize if I asked this before or if anyone has already but I figure I could use some fresh perspectives. After divorce how do you scrap? Include X in pages? Divorce was heartbreaking for all of us...and to be honest even looking at pics from our life before is so painful for me and kids. I am taking about pics from life and events years ago...I don't have any pics at all of X from our current life and events. I recently moved and am getting ready to reorganize my scrap stuff and pics and would love some insight from those that have gone through the same thing. Also...keep those old (when kids were babies etc) scrapbooks out and accessible? Remove X from those and just set those actual pictures aside? Thank u for any comments...I really need to purge etc and want to have a game plan so I can happily scrap going forward. I use all the pictures. I do it for my children. One day pictures are all they will have left. I don't want them to have a warped view of what life was like. Cutting him out of pictures or avoiding using those pictures would make them feel bad, I think. Their father was there, and is in the pictures. I don't have to like him but I don't want to punish my children because of my feelings. We were a family and they still love him. I probably do too in some weird way, lol.
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Post by leftturnonly on Feb 4, 2016 19:37:46 GMT
I would only scrap current times. I would not remove his photos from the albums already made, because he was actually there for those moments. I'd put them away for safe keeping. This is what I would do, also. Those earlier years are your family history.
I have the problem with our DS and former DIL, whom we still adore. Do I remove her photos from display in our home? I don't want our grandchildren to feel weird about no photos of their mom, but I also respect our DS's feelings. UGH! I am thinking I'll remove them from public view, like the family room, but leave in the bedroom the grandkids use.
Sorry, didn't mean to hijack your thread, OP.
That's a nice consideration for your grandchildren, to continue to have a photo(s) out where they can see them. I think that will be a very strong, yet subtle, life lesson for them. I don't think you should feel bad about taking them down from the more public areas.
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Post by vronn on Feb 4, 2016 20:06:29 GMT
For me,I tossed all the layouts that I'd done of the two of us together. There wasn't that many pictures of just the two of us, so I probably threw out maybe 5 pages, lol. Most of the scrapbooking I had done when I was married, was of the kids. I didn't take his pictures out from the ones I had of him and the kids though. My feeling was that their history with their dad was different from the one I had with him. Our marriage was rocky for many many years though, and there wasn't many things he wanted to do with the kids and I, so he didn't show up in many layouts anyways.
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Post by pierkiss on Feb 4, 2016 20:21:14 GMT
Also...keep those old (when kids were babies etc) scrapbooks out and accessible? Remove X from those and just set those actual pictures aside? Thank u for any comments...I really need to purge etc and want to have a game plan so I can happily scrap going forward. I haven't been divorced. But I have dismantled old scrapbooks to remove various people I'm no longer friends with and to just "fix" the pages. I regret each of those pages I fiddled with for whatever reason. I'm my mind, they should have stayed there. Like it or not now, some of those people were my best friends, and we're a huge part of my growing up/history. There is not going to be any erasing of them. Now the pages don't make any sense and most just look shitty. Esp this one I did of my brother in laws wedding. It was perfect before. Then I got it in my head hat it really needed to be an 8x8, because I was on a kick of only doing 8x8 pages. So I cut it. It looks so bad now. The proportions are completely wrong and it just looked so much better and finished as an 8x11. I no longer scrap, and I won't start again just to fix those pages. I rarely flip through my scrapbooks, and when I do I just feel regret for screwing up my pages. I should have just left all those people in there because they are part of the story. I think if he pages/pictures of your x-husband are causing you too much pain to look at them then you should consider putting them in an out of the way place until you heal a bit more. Someday it might not hurt as much, and it might be ok to look at those images again.
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Post by myboysnme on Feb 4, 2016 20:31:51 GMT
For me it's all part of scrapping the hard stuff along with the great stuff which is what I enjoy. Kind of like an autobiography in photos and stories. Keeping it real.... I think it also depends on why you scrap. Do what works for you. I personally don't want an autobiography of myself to leave my family. I prefer to scrap the good things. For *me*, scrapping the bad moments is not helpful. Even if there is some lesson learned, I don't like putting personal things out there for others to view. Take your time and do what feels best. I think I would buy divided sheet protectors that hold 6 4x6 photos and put them in an album away from view for awhile. You can always scrap them later if you want. Yeah, I know what you mean. I've always had this streak in me that I want to leave some kind of written legacy. I always really got into diaries that people left that got turned into books and such.
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Post by Sam on Feb 4, 2016 20:59:01 GMT
Keep old scrapbooks - there's more to teh stories in there than just the ex
Photos not scrapped yet - photo album or shoe box UNLESS significant in which case, you need to choose what you want to do, but if he was part of your life and happens to be there, i'd leave him in pics where he is not the main focus.
BUT anything not so significant...back to photo album to store or shoe box or whatever.
I would only put energy at this time into what is happening moving forward and not what went before, at least for a while.
As for the comment regarding "keep those old (when kids were babies etc) scrapbooks out and accessible? Remove X from those and just set those actual pictures aside?" --- unless there were serious issues at that time, surely you scrap as much for your kids as for yourself? If so, don't remove him from those. Life might feel hard for them now and the reality of the situation might hurt them, but at some point, they may well want to come back to those memories. I don't know how old your children are, but I would be inclined to keep them where they can be accessed if they ask, but not out on display for them to see all the time.
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Post by mikklynn on Feb 4, 2016 21:02:02 GMT
I scrap for my son, so I've always included the pics of him with his father. I left the ones done as they were that we were in together before the divorce, and if we had some mutual event, I actually tried to get pics of them together because I know that is something the ex wouldn't think to do. I have even asked him to send me pics when he does things with out son. I would find it weird to leave out such a big part of his life. I do something similar with DIL. I have asked her to send me photos of the grands with HER family, so I can scrapbook them in the kid's albums. Since DS and DIL divorced, she is really good about sending photos of the kids with and without her. I definitely scrapbook photos of the kids and their mom, in their books.
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