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Post by peano on Feb 17, 2016 5:07:30 GMT
I started down the rabbit hole yesterday reading about this...all starting with one tweet from one man who is apparently known for his conspiratorial thoughts where he speculated that the death was perhaps not natural. It has spiraled from there and now there are those that think that President Obama is responsible so that he can nominate 'a Muslim who will force Sharia Law on the US' or that the nominee will be so liberal (read communist or socialist or whatever other ist people think they understand but really don't) that you can kiss your civil rights goodbye and start planning your move to the FEMA camps for your RFD chip. I finally had to stop reading because I simply couldn't wrap my brain around having that kind level of concern over the government the energy that kind negative thinking requires on a day to day basis. And for the love of all that is holy that is not me. But there are some things that ARE happening and people are blind. Not conspiracy theories though. Things in plain sight. Would you care to elaborate? Because your mysterioso verbiage sounds exactly like the mother$uckers who continue to maintain that Sandy Hook never happened and the families are actors.
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Post by lucyg on Feb 17, 2016 5:37:09 GMT
I started down the rabbit hole yesterday reading about this...all starting with one tweet from one man who is apparently known for his conspiratorial thoughts where he speculated that the death was perhaps not natural. It has spiraled from there and now there are those that think that President Obama is responsible so that he can nominate 'a Muslim who will force Sharia Law on the US' or that the nominee will be so liberal (read communist or socialist or whatever other ist people think they understand but really don't) that you can kiss your civil rights goodbye and start planning your move to the FEMA camps for your RFD chip. I finally had to stop reading because I simply couldn't wrap my brain around having that kind level of concern over the government the energy that kind negative thinking requires on a day to day basis. And for the love of all that is holy that is not me. But there are some things that ARE happening and people are blind. Not conspiracy theories though. Things in plain sight. What things? When you make a claim like that, you have to be willing to stand by your words enough to explain what you're talking about. Otherwise, it's just more conspiracy hot air.
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Post by anxiousmom on Feb 17, 2016 13:21:54 GMT
I started down the rabbit hole yesterday reading about this...all starting with one tweet from one man who is apparently known for his conspiratorial thoughts where he speculated that the death was perhaps not natural. It has spiraled from there and now there are those that think that President Obama is responsible so that he can nominate 'a Muslim who will force Sharia Law on the US' or that the nominee will be so liberal (read communist or socialist or whatever other ist people think they understand but really don't) that you can kiss your civil rights goodbye and start planning your move to the FEMA camps for your RFD chip. I finally had to stop reading because I simply couldn't wrap my brain around having that kind level of concern over the government the energy that kind negative thinking requires on a day to day basis. And for the love of all that is holy that is not me. But there are some things that ARE happening and people are blind. Not conspiracy theories though. Things in plain sight. I'm sorry, I wasn't calling you out specifically. I spent some time reading about these theories and was commenting about how I find it hard to understand. Just out of curiosity, what are the things that are happening that we are blind too? I have no problem doing some reading and researching if you don't mind being more specific. I think I am relatively on top of things, so if something is going on in plain sight, I am totally missing it.
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Post by Deleted on Feb 17, 2016 16:06:42 GMT
Just another comment regarding a very influential Senator and his opposing view in 2008.....this time it's not Chuck Schumer but Senator Charles Grassley, the chairman of the Judiciary Committee that is responsible for the judicial nominations AND my Senator.
It appears that Senator Grassley said this in 2008:
I have a great email I'm sending my Senator today addressing my concerns with his flip-flopping.
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Post by Deleted on Feb 17, 2016 16:45:42 GMT
And for the love of all that is holy that is not me. But there are some things that ARE happening and people are blind. Not conspiracy theories though. Things in plain sight. Would you care to elaborate? Because your mysterioso verbiage sounds exactly like the mother$uckers who continue to maintain that Sandy Hook never happened and the families are actors. What a peach you are. And this also goes for everyone who liked it. I am truly disappointed and saddened. I am in the middle of packing and moving 17 hours away. I will get back to you when I have a chance. This board is going back to how it was before. But you better believe when I am in Texas, I will make a long list. The media is spoon feeding what it wants to and I have NEVER in my life believed ANY conspiracy theories. Ever. I actually follow the blog of Emilee Parker's mom who was a victim in the Sandy Hook shootings. It broke my heart that SHE had to address those theories. It's actually an amazing blog and her statement that evil did not win that day was powerful. Here is the blog link in case anyone is interested and wants to read. Parker BlogSeek to KNOW someone's heart before you call them out. That doesn't happen enough in our society I know. It's like it's void of kindness. But I guarantee I have NEVER intentionally been rude to ANYONE on here. EVER. Like I said this board is going back to exactly how it was before. I will say I have seen things most haven't FIRST HAND. I was at the UN and saw way more than I wish I had. I was in the negotiating meetings where the documents had already been written without the consent and collaboration of everyone. I have been on the floor in the General Assembly and seen our delegate booed. I have seen them turn off the sound system and wait until delegates have left for lunch or dinner and made more changes (I actually sat behind the desks then). I also saw the UN force nations to comply with international documents and override their national sovereignty. I saw how evil of a place it is. So I am more informed than you know. And I bet people really would never believe that would happen. Think again. It already has. Just not in the US mostly because we haven't ratified CEDAW. I will write more when I am settled in Texas. There is a way to disagree with someone without jumping to assumptions or name calling. Again, kindness matters.
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Post by Deleted on Feb 17, 2016 16:46:49 GMT
And for the love of all that is holy that is not me. But there are some things that ARE happening and people are blind. Not conspiracy theories though. Things in plain sight. I'm sorry, I wasn't calling you out specifically. I spent some time reading about these theories and was commenting about how I find it hard to understand. Just out of curiosity, what are the things that are happening that we are blind too? I have no problem doing some reading and researching if you don't mind being more specific. I think I am relatively on top of things, so if something is going on in plain sight, I am totally missing it. See THIS is the way to handle it and kind. Thank you! When I am in Texas I will lay out a few things. It should be about a week. But thanks for being respectful. You have always been a respectful pea!
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Post by lucyg on Feb 17, 2016 16:58:28 GMT
Would you care to elaborate? Because your mysterioso verbiage sounds exactly like the mother$uckers who continue to maintain that Sandy Hook never happened and the families are actors. What a peach you are. And this also goes for everyone who liked it. I am truly disappointed and saddened. I am in the middle of packing and moving 17 hours away. I will get back to you when I have a chance. This board is going back to how it was before. But you better believe when I am in Texas, I will make a long list. The media is spoon feeding what it wants to and I have NEVER in my life believed ANY conspiracy theories. Ever. I actually follow the blog of Emilee Parker's mom who was a victim in the Sandy Hook shootings. It broke my heart that SHE had to address those theories. It's actually an amazing blog and her statement that evil did not win that day was powerful. Here is the blog link in case anyone is interested and wants to read. Parker BlogSeek to KNOW someone's heart before you call them out. That doesn't happen enough in our society I know. It's like it's void of kindness. But I guarantee I have NEVER intentionally been rude to ANYONE on here. EVER. Like I said this board is going back to exactly how it was before. I will say I have seen things most haven't FIRST HAND. I was at the UN and saw way more than I wish I had. I was in the negotiating meetings where the documents had already been written without the consent and collaboration of everyone. I have been on the floor in the General Assembly and seen our delegate booed. I have seen them turn off the sound system and wait until delegates have left for lunch or dinner and made more changes (I actually sat behind the desks then). I also saw the UN force nations to comply with international documents and override their national sovereignty. I saw how evil of a place it is. So I am more informed than you know. And I bet people really would never believe that would happen. Think again. It already has. Just not in the US mostly because we haven't ratified CEDAW. I will write more when I am settled in Texas. There is a way to disagree with someone without jumping to assumptions or name calling. Again, kindness matters. Did you used to be on the old 2peas with a different name? I remember a pea who had worked at the UN and was very disillusioned with it. But I can't remember her pea name. Was that you? I'm sorry you were upset by peano's response. Try to keep in mind that she actually lives in Newtown and was personally affected by the events there. She has her own traumas and sensitivities to deal with and the Newtown conspiracy craziness hits close to home for her. So please try to give her some grace on that topic.
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Post by Deleted on Feb 17, 2016 17:03:44 GMT
Would you care to elaborate? Because your mysterioso verbiage sounds exactly like the mother$uckers who continue to maintain that Sandy Hook never happened and the families are actors. I have NEVER heard that theory! That's terrible. The way he died is so similar to the way my dad died. He was no Supreme Court Justice, but he did piss off some people in his lifetime. Justice Scalia was on a private ranch in the middle of nowhere with very rich people who were there for hunting. I think it would easily be noticed if some stranger were to come onto the ranch. I don't see it as an inside job. They are all like minded people. Plus he was overweight, elderly, and smoked. My dad was found in bed, deceased where my family owns private land for camping. Some states do not require an autopsy for an unattended death if circumstances don't look suspicious. I think sometimes we overlook at what is required for an autopsy. When it's your loved one and you have the option of NOT having their body cut open, it is a really easy decision. ETA: Just wanted to say if it were Democrats and a Republican president, the same thing would be happening. I don't think there should be a delay. If anything, Obama is NOT distracted by trying to run a campaign. He can concentrate on getting it done.
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Post by Darcy Collins on Feb 17, 2016 17:10:12 GMT
Just another comment regarding a very influential Senator and his opposing view in 2008.....this time it's not Chuck Schumer but Senator Charles Grassley, the chairman of the Judiciary Committee that is responsible for the judicial nominations AND my Senator. It appears that Senator Grassley said this in 2008: I have a great email I'm sending my Senator today addressing my concerns with his flip-flopping. Are you going to send one to President Obama about his flip flopping from filibustering Justice Alito with the reason: "I will be supporting the filibuster because I think Judge Alito, in fact, is somebody who is contrary to core American values, not just liberal values," Obama said. "When you look at his decisions--in particular, during times of war--we need a court that is independent and is going to provide some check on the executive branch." to now chastising Republicans - of course not. Just don't try and pretend the Republicans are doing anything new. I have no doubt when Republicans try and filibuster any nominee put forth for not being in keeping with core American values and providing a check on the executive branch you'll label them as extremists.
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Post by Deleted on Feb 17, 2016 17:12:59 GMT
Just another comment regarding a very influential Senator and his opposing view in 2008.....this time it's not Chuck Schumer but Senator Charles Grassley, the chairman of the Judiciary Committee that is responsible for the judicial nominations AND my Senator. It appears that Senator Grassley said this in 2008: I have a great email I'm sending my Senator today addressing my concerns with his flip-flopping. Are you going to send one to President Obama about his flip flopping from filibustering Justice Alito with the reason: "I will be supporting the filibuster because I think Judge Alito, in fact, is somebody who is contrary to core American values, not just liberal values," Obama said. "When you look at his decisions--in particular, during times of war--we need a court that is independent and is going to provide some check on the executive branch." to now chastising Republicans - of course not. Just don't try and pretend the Republicans are doing anything new. I have no doubt when Republicans try and filibuster any nominee put forth for not being in keeping with core American values and providing a check on the executive branch you'll label them as extremists. You're barking up the wrong tree.....nobody is pretending the Republicans are doing anything new and my post certainly didn't.
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Post by Darcy Collins on Feb 17, 2016 17:25:45 GMT
Are you going to send one to President Obama about his flip flopping from filibustering Justice Alito with the reason: "I will be supporting the filibuster because I think Judge Alito, in fact, is somebody who is contrary to core American values, not just liberal values," Obama said. "When you look at his decisions--in particular, during times of war--we need a court that is independent and is going to provide some check on the executive branch." to now chastising Republicans - of course not. Just don't try and pretend the Republicans are doing anything new. I have no doubt when Republicans try and filibuster any nominee put forth for not being in keeping with core American values and providing a check on the executive branch you'll label them as extremists. You're barking up the wrong tree.....nobody is pretending the Republicans are doing anything new and my post certainly didn't. Well the nobody is pretending the Republicans are doing anything new is easily disproven by reading this thread. If you're one who realizes it's more of the same - my apologies.
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Post by Deleted on Feb 17, 2016 17:59:26 GMT
Just another comment regarding a very influential Senator and his opposing view in 2008.....this time it's not Chuck Schumer but Senator Charles Grassley, the chairman of the Judiciary Committee that is responsible for the judicial nominations AND my Senator. It appears that Senator Grassley said this in 2008: I have a great email I'm sending my Senator today addressing my concerns with his flip-flopping. Are you going to send one to President Obama about his flip flopping from filibustering Justice Alito with the reason: "I will be supporting the filibuster because I think Judge Alito, in fact, is somebody who is contrary to core American values, not just liberal values," Obama said. "When you look at his decisions--in particular, during times of war--we need a court that is independent and is going to provide some check on the executive branch." to now chastising Republicans - of course not. Just don't try and pretend the Republicans are doing anything new. I have no doubt when Republicans try and filibuster any nominee put forth for not being in keeping with core American values and providing a check on the executive branch you'll label them as extremists. The only problem with your example using President Obama is he was expressing his opinion about the decisions made by a specific candidate for the Supreme Court. What the Republicans have been saying is whoever President Obama nominates is dead on arrival. In fact Ted Cruz has said he will filibuster whoever the President nominates. It would appear for the Republicans qualifications don't matter. There is a difference between what Senator Obama did and what the Republican Senators are purposing. But it appears some Republicans are now changing their tune and they, at least at this point, may hold hearings on whoever President Obama nominates. But I bet you any amount of money whoever the nominee is and no matter what this person's qualifications are Ted Cruz will filibuster that nominee. And it only takes one. And the blowback by Cruz's actions will be a black eye for all Republicans.
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Post by RiverIsis on Feb 17, 2016 18:28:45 GMT
Just another comment regarding a very influential Senator and his opposing view in 2008.....this time it's not Chuck Schumer but Senator Charles Grassley, the chairman of the Judiciary Committee that is responsible for the judicial nominations AND my Senator. It appears that Senator Grassley said this in 2008: I have a great email I'm sending my Senator today addressing my concerns with his flip-flopping. It's not the flip-flopping so much as the memory loss that seems to be a huge issue!
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Post by RiverIsis on Feb 17, 2016 18:38:05 GMT
Would you care to elaborate? Because your mysterioso verbiage sounds exactly like the mother$uckers who continue to maintain that Sandy Hook never happened and the families are actors. What a peach you are. And this also goes for everyone who liked it. I am truly disappointed and saddened. I am in the middle of packing and moving 17 hours away. I will get back to you when I have a chance. This board is going back to how it was before. But you better believe when I am in Texas, I will make a long list. The media is spoon feeding what it wants to and I have NEVER in my life believed ANY conspiracy theories. Ever. I actually follow the blog of Emilee Parker's mom who was a victim in the Sandy Hook shootings. It broke my heart that SHE had to address those theories. It's actually an amazing blog and her statement that evil did not win that day was powerful. Here is the blog link in case anyone is interested and wants to read. Parker BlogSeek to KNOW someone's heart before you call them out. That doesn't happen enough in our society I know. It's like it's void of kindness. But I guarantee I have NEVER intentionally been rude to ANYONE on here. EVER. Like I said this board is going back to exactly how it was before. I will say I have seen things most haven't FIRST HAND. I was at the UN and saw way more than I wish I had. I was in the negotiating meetings where the documents had already been written without the consent and collaboration of everyone. I have been on the floor in the General Assembly and seen our delegate booed. I have seen them turn off the sound system and wait until delegates have left for lunch or dinner and made more changes (I actually sat behind the desks then). I also saw the UN force nations to comply with international documents and override their national sovereignty. I saw how evil of a place it is. So I am more informed than you know. And I bet people really would never believe that would happen. Think again. It already has. Just not in the US mostly because we haven't ratified CEDAW. I will write more when I am settled in Texas. There is a way to disagree with someone without jumping to assumptions or name calling. Again, kindness matters. Honestly, you were asked to elaborate. You did. So you are offended you weren't called a name (because that was the stipulation) and then proceeded with a set down? That's just odd. I think to presume you are the only one "in the know" is ridiculous. Anyone with a decent grip of international news from various agencies and how to assess those agencies' reliability can make quite educated conclusions. To mask educated conclusions from various new sources and information with conspiracy theories doesn't really add credit to a person's claim to be in the know. I think kindness matters and that is why even veiled insults such as "peach" are still insults and not kind at all, so maybe walk the walk.
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Post by Deleted on Feb 17, 2016 19:36:55 GMT
You're barking up the wrong tree.....nobody is pretending the Republicans are doing anything new and my post certainly didn't. Well the nobody is pretending the Republicans are doing anything new is easily disproven by reading this thread. If you're one who realizes it's more of the same - my apologies. No apologies necessary....I should have used the "I'm not" and not "nobody" because I can only speak for what I've posted myself and not what others have posted. The only purpose to my most recent post was to point out that it wasn't only Chuck Schumer that has "memory loss" as RiverIsis has pointed out but that Chuck Grassley who at this point has WAY MORE influence as chairman of Judiciary Committee has also seemed to suffer from that same loss and in his position makes him look like a fool.
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Post by peano on Feb 17, 2016 22:40:50 GMT
I started down the rabbit hole yesterday reading about this...all starting with one tweet from one man who is apparently known for his conspiratorial thoughts where he speculated that the death was perhaps not natural. It has spiraled from there and now there are those that think that President Obama is responsible so that he can nominate 'a Muslim who will force Sharia Law on the US' or that the nominee will be so liberal (read communist or socialist or whatever other ist people think they understand but really don't) that you can kiss your civil rights goodbye and start planning your move to the FEMA camps for your RFD chip. I finally had to stop reading because I simply couldn't wrap my brain around having that kind level of concern over the government the energy that kind negative thinking requires on a day to day basis. And for the love of all that is holy that is not me. But there are some things that ARE happening and people are blind. Things in plain sight. people are blind people don't agree with me Not conspiracy theories though. Because that would group me with crazy people and I don't view myself as a crazy person, even though my words sound exactly like the crazy people who continue to torment the Sandy Hook families and I'm sure have swooped down on other families whose loved ones were killed in one of the mass shootings since Sandy Hook. ________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________ What a peach you are. And this also goes for everyone who liked it. I am truly disappointed and saddened. I am in the middle of packing and moving 17 hours away. I will get back to you when I have a chance. This board is going back to how it was before. But you better believe when I am in Texas, I will make a long list. The media is spoon feeding what it wants to and I have NEVER in my life believed ANY conspiracy theories. Ever. I actually follow the blog of Emilee Parker's mom who was a victim in the Sandy Hook shootings. It broke my heart that SHE had to address those theories. It's actually an amazing blog and her statement that evil did not win that day was powerful. Here is the blog link in case anyone is interested and wants to read. Parker Blog Seek to KNOW someone's heart before you call them out. That doesn't happen enough in our society I know. It's like it's void of kindness. But I guarantee I have NEVER intentionally been rude to ANYONE on here. EVER. Like I said this board is going back to exactly how it was before. I will say I have seen things most haven't FIRST HAND. I was at the UN and saw way more than I wish I had. I was in the negotiating meetings where the documents had already been written without the consent and collaboration of everyone. I have been on the floor in the General Assembly and seen our delegate booed. I have seen them turn off the sound system and wait until delegates have left for lunch or dinner and made more changes (I actually sat behind the desks then). I also saw the UN force nations to comply with international documents and override their national sovereignty. I saw how evil of a place it is. So I am more informed than you know. And I bet people really would never believe that would happen. Think again. It already has. Just not in the US mostly because we haven't ratified CEDAW. I will write more when I am settled in Texas. There is a way to disagree with someone without jumping to assumptions or name calling. Again, kindness matters. _________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________ Me, just to be clear: I wasn't calling you a mother$ucker, I was calling the hoaxers that. And while that brief snipped you wrote sounded like the same type of insanely convoluted garbage they so cavalierly throw around, I'm not going to base my views of you based on one short sentence. Which is why I asked you to elaborate. In other words, I WAS seeking to "know your heart". Not really sure what disappoints and saddens you. And not understanding why you are lecturing me on kindness. I have a righteous fury aimed at those who seek to magnify the pain of suffering, innocent people who have experienced an unimaginable loss and am moved to speak out and defend them. How is that not kindness? ________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________ And lucyg... . Thank you for your input (I wish I could figure out how to link different threads into one thread). You summed it up nicely. I was just at lunch with a friend today at a restaurant very near Sandy Hook School when two vehicles with lights flashing and sirens blaring raced by and we both immediately panicked and teared up. We are both still finding it very difficult three years out and these $ucking hoaxers will.not.leave.us.alone. So perhaps my response to @me was harsh, but I guess that's where I am in the process of healing.
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Post by Merge on Feb 18, 2016 0:02:01 GMT
Just another comment regarding a very influential Senator and his opposing view in 2008.....this time it's not Chuck Schumer but Senator Charles Grassley, the chairman of the Judiciary Committee that is responsible for the judicial nominations AND my Senator. It appears that Senator Grassley said this in 2008: I have a great email I'm sending my Senator today addressing my concerns with his flip-flopping. Are you going to send one to President Obama about his flip flopping from filibustering Justice Alito with the reason: "I will be supporting the filibuster because I think Judge Alito, in fact, is somebody who is contrary to core American values, not just liberal values," Obama said. "When you look at his decisions--in particular, during times of war--we need a court that is independent and is going to provide some check on the executive branch." to now chastising Republicans - of course not. Just don't try and pretend the Republicans are doing anything new. I have no doubt when Republicans try and filibuster any nominee put forth for not being in keeping with core American values and providing a check on the executive branch you'll label them as extremists. The point is that they're not saying they're going to filibuster a candidate who doesn't support core American values or with whose record or background they find fault; they're saying they don't plan to even consider any Obama nominee, period. They're saying that this is because a president with almost a full year left in his term doesn't deserve to appoint a Supreme Court justice. And it's not just one or two people saying it - it's a hefty number of Republican senators, including two presidential candidates. To the best of my knowledge, that is new. I'm open to hearing different information, though. And BTW, despite Obama's joining in the filibuster, Senate Democrats eventually confirmed both Roberts and Alito. Bush was allowed by the senate to fulfill his constitutional duty even in the face of political opposition.
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Post by ~Lauren~ on Feb 18, 2016 1:05:26 GMT
So be honest now: if the Repubilcans fillibuster each nominee and/or reject each nominee until Jan. 20, 2017, you're not going to be screaming about that? I don't think anyone believes that. You'll be just as angry and scream just as much if they have hearings but refuse to confirm.
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Post by Deleted on Feb 18, 2016 1:19:36 GMT
To date, Obama has successfully appointed 323 federal judges in his tenure. Two of those being Supreme Court justices (Sotomayor and Kagan). He's had a good run in that regard, I'd say.
Now, being as how the last two mid-term elections resulted in the people making it pretty clear they are leaning conservative, I think the people need to have their say in who replaces Justice Scalia via the upcoming general election.
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Post by Deleted on Feb 18, 2016 1:23:23 GMT
To date, Obama has successfully appointed 323 federal judges in his tenure. Two of those being Supreme Court justices (Sotomayor and Kagan). He's had a good run in that regard, I'd say. Now, being as how the last two mid-term elections resulted in the people making it pretty clear they are leaning conservative, I think the people need to have their say in who replaces Justice Scalia via the upcoming general election. JMO. L Funny, that's not at all what the Constitution says.
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Post by Merge on Feb 18, 2016 1:25:50 GMT
So be honest now: if the Repubilcans fillibuster each nominee and/or reject each nominee until Jan. 20, 2017, you're not going to be screaming about that? I don't think anyone believes that. You'll be just as angry and scream just as much if they have hearings but refuse to confirm. At this point, would anyone believe the nominees were getting a fair hearing? Republicans have said outright they won't allow Obama to appoint. Not because of any unsuitability of the nominee, but just because they doing think Obama should be allowed to appoint another justice. I don't think the means matter so much as the stated intent to circumvent the constitution.
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Post by Deleted on Feb 18, 2016 1:27:16 GMT
To date, Obama has successfully appointed 323 federal judges in his tenure. Two of those being Supreme Court justices (Sotomayor and Kagan). He's had a good run in that regard, I'd say. Now, being as how the last two mid-term elections resulted in the people making it pretty clear they are leaning conservative, I think the people need to have their say in who replaces Justice Scalia via the upcoming general election. JMO. L Funny, that's not at all what the Constitution says. I never asserted that the constitution did. I simply stated my OPINION on the matter. Does my opinion distress you in some way? L
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Post by Merge on Feb 18, 2016 1:30:12 GMT
Funny, that's not at all what the Constitution says. I never asserted that the constitution did. I simply stated my OPINION on the matter. Does my opinion distress you in some way? L And we're back to differentiating between opinions supported by the actual words of the constitution, and those based only on personal preference.
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Post by mimima on Feb 18, 2016 1:39:37 GMT
To date, Obama has successfully appointed 323 federal judges in his tenure. Two of those being Supreme Court justices (Sotomayor and Kagan). He's had a good run in that regard, I'd say. Now, being as how the last two mid-term elections resulted in the people making it pretty clear they are leaning conservative, I think the people need to have their say in who replaces Justice Scalia via the upcoming general election. JMO. L The people did have their say. They elected Obama for a four year term.
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Post by marimoose on Feb 18, 2016 1:41:20 GMT
Dear Dems: Why are you acting so horrified that the Reps might try to block a SC nominee of Obama's? Surely you know you are just as guilty and have played this game yourself! Maybe you aren't aware of influential Senator Charles Schumer's insistence that the Democratic party attempt to block ANY of George Bush's nominees (should he get the chance to make any) based on the fact that he was a lame duck president. Just for the record, it was 2007 and Bush had 18 MONTHS left on his term. Apparently the press has been trying to contact Schumer to ask why it was OK to do this in 2007, and NOT OK for the Republicans to do it in 2016. From what I hear, he's been strangely silent on the subject. o would be horrified no matter the party. I don't like blocking based on being assholian no matter how much time is left. If the person is a brilliant jurist and doesn't have any skeletons and has proven the ability to rule and write opinions, then they should be confirmed.
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Post by Deleted on Feb 18, 2016 2:01:54 GMT
So be honest now: if the Repubilcans fillibuster each nominee and/or reject each nominee until Jan. 20, 2017, you're not going to be screaming about that? I don't think anyone believes that. You'll be just as angry and scream just as much if they have hearings but refuse to confirm. Actually yes I will call them on this. In the Republicans rush to "stick it" yet again to President Obama they made it very clear they have no intention of confirming anyone the President nominates. First by saying there would be no committee hearings or votes. Then by saying "well maybe we will have committee hearings for the nominee". Only an idiot would not believe that the Republicans only goal is to drag out the procedure until January 21 as they have absolutely no plan to confirm anyone no matter how qualified they are. For the very simple reason they gave away their plan.
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Post by lucyg on Feb 18, 2016 2:23:32 GMT
To date, Obama has successfully appointed 323 federal judges in his tenure. Two of those being Supreme Court justices (Sotomayor and Kagan). He's had a good run in that regard, I'd say. Now, being as how the last two mid-term elections resulted in the people making it pretty clear they are leaning conservative, I think the people need to have their say in who replaces Justice Scalia via the upcoming general election. JMO. L There are at least 46 judicial nominees who have been waiting and waiting and waiting for Senate confirmation for six months, a year, or more. The 2010 midterm election has no bearing since Pres. Obama was re-elected in 2012. And to be honest, the 2014 midterm election has no bearing, either, since Pres. Obama was re-elected in 2012. You may prefer to wait for the next president (you're gonna love Bernie Sanders's appointments!) but it is only your preference we're talking about here. There's no real-life reason for Pres. Obama not to appoint a new Justice, other than Republicans don't want him to.
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Post by Merge on Feb 18, 2016 3:20:48 GMT
To date, Obama has successfully appointed 323 federal judges in his tenure. Two of those being Supreme Court justices (Sotomayor and Kagan). He's had a good run in that regard, I'd say. Now, being as how the last two mid-term elections resulted in the people making it pretty clear they are leaning conservative, I think the people need to have their say in who replaces Justice Scalia via the upcoming general election. JMO. L There are at least 46 judicial nominees who have been waiting and waiting and waiting for Senate confirmation for six months, a year, or more. And 11 of those are in the state of Texas - far more than any other state - because our Republican senators have actively worked to keep any Obama nominations from coming to the bench here.
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