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Post by Deleted on Feb 19, 2016 13:01:28 GMT
I was just coming in to say the same thing. U.S. Census DataAs for the OP, I did know
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Post by auntkelly on Feb 19, 2016 15:08:07 GMT
Post deleted. Wrong thread.
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Post by SnowWhite on Feb 19, 2016 15:34:42 GMT
Do you have a source that isn't wikipedia and isn't based on self reporting? I mean, it's not that I don't believe you, I just don't trust that source, especially since they admit "Reporting depends on how persons choose to identify." ETA: nevermind, I should have checked the next page, I see @scrubologist already provided a better source. Okay, I was wrong
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Post by anonrefugee on Feb 19, 2016 15:49:22 GMT
According to Wikipedia the majority of Americans are Protestant. That should be reflected somewhere in the court. It is really odd it is not. For most of the first two centuries, almost all of the justices were white male Protestants. Now you're going to be resentful the first time there happens (not deliberately on anyone's part, as far as I know) to be none? I think it would be fine if the next nominee were a white male Protestant. But I don't think it's needed. Balance isn't resentment, it's a goal, albeit one that's not always attainable at a given point in time. It's a big country, why not have someone from Stanford?
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Post by epeanymous on Feb 19, 2016 17:35:49 GMT
For most of the first two centuries, almost all of the justices were white male Protestants. Now you're going to be resentful the first time there happens (not deliberately on anyone's part, as far as I know) to be none? I think it would be fine if the next nominee were a white male Protestant. But I don't think it's needed. Balance isn't resentment, it's a goal, albeit one that's not always attainable at a given point in time. It's a big country, why not have someone from Stanford? Justices Rehnquist and O'Conner were both Stanford grads. She obviously is still alive and could still be on the court. Just to remind everyone, until not that long ago, by custom and practice, Jews and Catholics were excluded from the court. Then, once Jews and Catholics were considered at all acceptable for appointment, there was a "Jewish seat" -- no more than one at a time. Justices Souter and Stevens were both Protestant and are still alive and could still be on the court. They elected to step down. While a history of religious bigotry did historically limit Catholic and Jewish access to court seats, there isn't a similar history of religious bias against Protestant Christians, and I don't think anyone really believes the court's current composition reflects religious bias against Protestants. Do they? Btw, two fun facts. One, Thomas was protestant when he was appointed. And two, Sri Srinivasan, the odds on favorite for nomination, is Hindu. I can't help but wonder if the sudden onset I've seen of "there is no Protestant on the court!" (Not saying the OP is part of that) is related to that.
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Post by cadoodlebug on Feb 19, 2016 17:39:52 GMT
Balance isn't resentment, it's a goal, albeit one that's not always attainable at a given point in time. It's a big country, why not have someone from Stanford? Justices Rehnquist and O'Conner were both Stanford grads. She obviously is still alive and could still be on the court. Just to remind everyone, until not that long ago, by custom and practice, Jews and Catholics were excluded from the court. Then, once Jews and Catholics were considered at all acceptable for appointment, there was a "Jewish seat" -- no more than one at a time. Justices Souter and Stevens were both Protestant and are still alive and could still be on the court. They elected to step down. While a history of religious bigotry did historically limit Catholic and Jewish access to court seats, there isn't a similar history of religious bias against Protestant Christians, and I don't think anyone really believes the court's current composition reflects religious bias against Protestants. Do they? Btw, two fun facts. One, Thomas was protestant when he was appointed. And two, Sri Srinivasan, the odds on favorite for nomination, is Hindu. I can't help but wonder if the sudden onset I've seen of "there is no Protestant on the court!" ( Not saying the OP is part of that) is related to that. You are correct ~ I was not making any political statement when I started this thread ~ merely a statistical curiosity. It has been interesting reading the discussions that have ensued.
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Post by lucyg on Feb 19, 2016 18:12:15 GMT
For most of the first two centuries, almost all of the justices were white male Protestants. Now you're going to be resentful the first time there happens (not deliberately on anyone's part, as far as I know) to be none? I think it would be fine if the next nominee were a white male Protestant. But I don't think it's needed. Where did I say I was resentful? It is something that should be taken into consideration when selecting the next justice. I am totally cracking up here at the folks that constantly whine about gender and race equality, then they say this is the one time it doesn't matter! You may not be resentful. I am not a whiner. There is no history in this country of discrimination against white male Protestants. That's why people don't get terribly excited if there's a minute when none are sitting on the Supreme Court. Sorry, I didn't realize that wasn't clear.
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Post by cadoodlebug on Feb 19, 2016 19:16:43 GMT
Where did I say I was resentful? It is something that should be taken into consideration when selecting the next justice. I am totally cracking up here at the folks that constantly whine about gender and race equality, then they say this is the one time it doesn't matter! You may not be resentful. I am not a whiner. There is no history in this country of discrimination against white male Protestants. That's why people don't get terribly excited if there's a minute when none are sitting on the Supreme Court. Sorry, I didn't realize that wasn't clear. Well, tell that to my son's friends who didn't get into some of the University of California Universities perhaps because they are white males and perhaps protestants. <Said half-way in jest with a modicum of truth>
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Post by tincin on Feb 19, 2016 19:18:58 GMT
It wouldn't even cross my mind to question the religious affiliation of a judge. Honest question: why is religion is a requirement or even something of public knowledge when it comes to a Supreme Court judge? Shouldn't that be irrelevant? The same could be said for sex and race, correct? No because for the most part you choose your religion but not your sex or race.
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Post by lucyg on Feb 19, 2016 19:22:47 GMT
You may not be resentful. I am not a whiner. There is no history in this country of discrimination against white male Protestants. That's why people don't get terribly excited if there's a minute when none are sitting on the Supreme Court. Sorry, I didn't realize that wasn't clear. Well, tell that to my son's friends who didn't get into some of the University of California Universities perhaps because they are white males and perhaps protestants. <Said half-way in jest with a modicum of truth> I am not going to touch that. I'm sorry. Okay, I'll just say that basing UC admissions on race has been illegal for years. Maybe decades? I don't remember how long. And that most Cal campuses are very difficult to get into and many perfectly well-qualified applicants are turned away. Okay, I guess I did touch it. But I stayed nice. ETA and I will add that I hope these young men don't go through life believing they were discriminated against due to their race or religion.
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tincin
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Post by tincin on Feb 19, 2016 19:26:05 GMT
You may not be resentful. I am not a whiner. There is no history in this country of discrimination against white male Protestants. That's why people don't get terribly excited if there's a minute when none are sitting on the Supreme Court. Sorry, I didn't realize that wasn't clear. Well, tell that to my son's friends who didn't get into some of the University of California Universities perhaps because they are white males and perhaps protestants. <Said half-way in jest with a modicum of truth> Let's balance them out with the millions of women and people of color who have been refused entry to everything from job opportunities to choice colleges. Sorry no sympathy for white men here and I raised two of them.
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Post by cadoodlebug on Feb 19, 2016 19:40:25 GMT
Well, tell that to my son's friends who didn't get into some of the University of California Universities perhaps because they are white males and perhaps protestants. <Said half-way in jest with a modicum of truth> I am not going to touch that. I'm sorry. Okay, I'll just say that basing UC admissions on race has been illegal for years. Maybe decades? I don't remember how long. And that most Cal campuses are very difficult to get into and many perfectly well-qualified applicants are turned away. Okay, I guess I did touch it. But I stayed nice. ETA and I will add that I hope these young men don't go through life believing they were discriminated against due to their race or religion. I'm sure they didn't as they are all now successful in their careers.
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