Nanner
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Post by Nanner on Mar 23, 2016 11:41:03 GMT
Thank you again, Melanell
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Post by leftturnonly on Mar 23, 2016 12:00:47 GMT
I do wonder though with those extremely uncommon names if your Alex is Native American? I'm still in the middle of page 2, so if this has been figured out, OK. But.... My ldh's family was from Texas/Oklahoma. Their names are REALLY unusual and there is no Native American in them. One line is extremely Scottish and that's where you get the Douglas/Dougald Alexander/Sandy names. All of them had gotten to TX/OK down the east coast and then west through the south. By the time they hit Texas and Oklahoma, the way they spoke must have been considerably different! I met a lot of these people with the crazy names personally and spoke with them about the family history. Nanner 's names appear more of the same to me. Birdie is most likely a nickname, but it could be her name. Byrd is a name going back to the earliest of immigrants and very easily could be part of their family.
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Post by leftturnonly on Mar 23, 2016 12:19:57 GMT
I had an unknown person pop up as a third-degree/first-cousin level relative. Now that I have gotten my own tests back..... I had a person in the 3rd cousin level pop up with absolutely no surnames and practically no locations in common. Ancestry's BETA program strongly encourages me to pursue this line with some suggestions who to start with. I was matched with a 3rd cousin and son that I absolutely know is correct, and it says that this line is also matched to her's. That moves the unknown 3rd cousin most likely further down the line in terms of how closely we're related. I have a ton of names in the 4th cousin category, with the range being 4th-6th, and I'm tracing them to more distantly related also. Like... 7th or 8th cousins. One 4th cousin is more like 8th or 9th, so I am pretty darn sure we have multiple ancestors in common that effectively doubled the amount of DNA we share. The same for those cousins that are further back than the tests alone would expect. We are most likely related through another person as well. The person showing as your 3rd cousin may not be that close a relation to you. And since you were concerned this was a close relative of yours that would disturb the family dynamics, let me give you the relationship of my actual 3rd cousin and myself. Me -> Father -> Grandmother -> GrGrandfather -> 2GrGrandparents -> 2nd GrAunt -> 1st Cousin 2x Removed -> 2nd Cousin 1x Removed -> 3rd Cousin. (I did that looking at my tree as I typed to be certain.) Does this help put you at ease a little more?
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Post by leftturnonly on Mar 23, 2016 12:27:55 GMT
You can find Birdie in Oklahoma on the 1910 census with her brother and mother. It's a few pages off the Elix Duglass family. She probably married in 1910 after the census was taken. Have you contacted the Stephens County historical society? They may have marriage records that aren't available online. Nanner - I found Oklahoma marriage records at FamilySearch.org. I haven't seen them at Ancestry yet. OK marriages 1870-1930
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Post by Darcy Collins on Mar 23, 2016 13:06:42 GMT
You can find Birdie in Oklahoma on the 1910 census with her brother and mother. It's a few pages off the Elix Duglass family. She probably married in 1910 after the census was taken. Have you contacted the Stephens County historical society? They may have marriage records that aren't available online. Nanner - I found Oklahoma marriage records at FamilySearch.org. I haven't seen them at Ancestry yet. OK marriages 1870-1930Unfortunately those don't cover marriages in Stephen's county. These folks claim to have marriage books beginning in 1907: members.tripod.com/davis_genealogy/SCGS.htmlBTW sorry about the wrong Birdie Fisher Nanner on the 1910 census - searching too quick without knowing enough about the extended family!
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Post by epeanymous on Mar 23, 2016 14:10:44 GMT
I had an unknown person pop up as a third-degree/first-cousin level relative. The person showing as your 3rd cousin may not be that close a relation to you. Oh, I had a few people pop up as third cousins and a ton of people pop up as 4th or more distant cousins. It didn't even occur to me to wonder much about them. This person popped up as a third-degree relative, not a third cousin -- the typical relationship could be first cousin, niece/nephew, uncle/aunt, or great-grandparent/grandchild. The site does say that it is possible they can be off by a degree, and if it is a fourth-degree relative, I still know my family tree such that they would not be accounted for, but they wouldn't be a sufficiently close relative that my father or I would be missing a sibling.
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Post by melanell on Mar 23, 2016 14:52:27 GMT
I found some OK marriages elsewhere, but they were too early...1904 and 1905, I think. I looked through them anyway, because you could check by county, but no luck.
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Post by leftturnonly on Mar 23, 2016 15:12:04 GMT
This person popped up as a third-degree relative, not a third cousin Well, that's different then. ETA - How much does it change things if this person is a 4th-degree relative?
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Post by scrapbookwriter on Mar 23, 2016 15:40:21 GMT
I removed the info from my post because I found an actual living relative of the deceased. (A brand-new sort-of cousin for me!)
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Post by scrapbookwriter on Mar 23, 2016 22:37:59 GMT
<----- thread killer
so sorry
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Post by Nanner on Mar 24, 2016 0:45:16 GMT
I do wonder though with those extremely uncommon names if your Alex is Native American? Nanner 's names appear more of the same to me. Birdie is most likely a nickname, but it could be her name. Byrd is a name going back to the earliest of immigrants and very easily could be part of their family. Birdie is also how her name appears on the U.S. Death Index. She had a twin sister named Bertha.
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Post by myboysnme on Mar 24, 2016 0:45:31 GMT
melanell once again broke through a major wall for me. She found my ancestor who came over from Germany living with his family in 1870. I could not find him at all after he arrived 2 decades earlier. From there I have been able to follow a few of his children's marriages. They were all in the same area but no one ever passed down that information. How I wish someone was alive to share my excitement. My grandpa lived to age 99 but he died in March 2011. I can tell my mom but she's still mad that the research shows they are German not French.
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