MizIndependent
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Post by MizIndependent on Apr 6, 2016 21:08:43 GMT
From CNN: "The Clinton campaign has been watching these Wisconsin results come in, and the delegate race of course is tight there, but the reality is they're running out of patience. So they're going to begin deploying a new strategy, it’s going to be called disqualify him, defeat him and then they can unify the party later."Is this who we want representing the Democrats? Meanwhile, as Secretary Clinton is freaking out over refocusing after losing Wisconsin, Senator Sanders was proven right again with the release of the Panama Papers. Here he is back in 2011 speaking out against the Panama Free Trade Agreement that Secretary Clinton was very much in favor of.
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Post by librarylady on Apr 6, 2016 21:21:16 GMT
That is how the political game is played. I am not shocked nor surprised. It is cut throat if one wants to be in the White House.....if you think otherwise, you are naive.
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Post by Deleted on Apr 6, 2016 21:29:12 GMT
I'm not a Democrat and don't pay much attention to what goes on within their party. However even from the outside looking in, I've always gotten the impression that the Democratic Establishment, and the Clinton Campaign, have been very, very angry at Sanders for not rolling over quietly and giving their golden girl her "turn." This validates that.
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Post by MizIndependent on Apr 6, 2016 21:29:37 GMT
That is how the political game is played. I am not shocked nor surprised. It is cut throat if one wants to be in the White House.....if you think otherwise, you are naive. Indeed. It is. This show is just ramping up.
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Post by Deleted on Apr 6, 2016 21:31:50 GMT
That is how the political game is played. I am not shocked nor surprised. It is cut throat if one wants to be in the White House.....if you think otherwise, you are naive. I've long since come to the conclusion that the kind of person who should be President is the kind of person who would never seek it. The kind of person who should be President would never be able to win. There's so much back room dealing and compromising and scheming. I just don't see how you can keep your principles and character and still win. Call me jaded, but that's how I see it.
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Post by gsquaredmom on Apr 6, 2016 21:35:28 GMT
Clinton knew she was going to lose Wisconsin. That's why she went to New York early. I would not call it freaking out.
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Post by MizIndependent on Apr 6, 2016 21:37:21 GMT
Clinton knew she was going to lose Wisconsin. That's why she went to New York early. I would not call it freaking out. Fair point.
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Post by refugeepea on Apr 6, 2016 21:40:38 GMT
Clinton knew she was going to lose Wisconsin. That's why she went to New York early. I would not call it freaking out. I don't think it's freaking out either. Now, if she loses NY, that will be interesting. I think it's funny how so many things are breaking news now (in reference to the video clip).
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Post by peasapie on Apr 6, 2016 21:42:39 GMT
Very interesting to see that Sanders footage from 2011.
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Post by oliquig on Apr 6, 2016 21:49:38 GMT
She's actually opening an office in CT, which doesn't really happen. Candidates don't really come here until after the primaries are done, and even then they tend to stick to the Stamford/Greenwich (ie where the money is) area. But she's opening one right smack dab in the center of the state.
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Post by suzastampin on Apr 6, 2016 23:07:46 GMT
Very interesting video of Bernie.
With all of Hillary's losses, I'm wondering if she's begun thinking Déjà Vue, it's 2008 all over again.
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Post by Deleted on Apr 6, 2016 23:27:17 GMT
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The Clinton campaign doesn't need a plan to "bury" Bernie. When asked why he changed his affiliation from Independent to Democrat he said he did it to get the press coverage. Now that he seems to be giving Hillary a run for it he is getting the press coverage he asked for. Well he has been getting press but as someone who could knock Hillary out of the race the press is now taking a closer look at him and his policies. He did an interview with the Editorial Board of the New York Daily News. His interview did not go all that well and caught the attention of various members of the press who have been talking about his answers and his lack of details. The attached article in The Atlantic is by David A. Graham. The title "How Much Does Bernie Sanders know about Policy" I think is a good read about the New York Daily News interview and other concerns about his answers. In the article is this one sentence that really caught my eye. "There have, of course, been plenty of accusations, not least from the Hillary campaign, that Bernie is offering a deeply unrealistic program. He tends to answer that they fail to grasp that he is building a political revolution." My guess as Sander's plans receive more scrutiny from the media the Clinton Campaign won't need a plan to bury him. An example. He is asked the question if he is President and he somehow manages to break up the big banks what happens to the bank employees and investors in the fallout from the break up of the banks? His answer is it isn't his problem. I mean after all he is building a political revolution and if those investors lose their investments and bank employees lose their jobs it's acceptable collateral damage to his great revolution. Except I think the individuals impacted might think differently. After all those impacted are the very individuals he wants to help.
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Post by papercrafteradvocate on Apr 6, 2016 23:38:09 GMT
And just today I read an article, CNN I think that stated that HC was okay losing Wisconsin. The article also noted that Bernie was really struggling to answer direct question as to his plan to disband big banking and implement the things he has been campaigning on for the last year, and he couldn't (didn't know) the answers!!!
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Post by papercrafteradvocate on Apr 6, 2016 23:39:11 GMT
I definitely get the "vibe" that the OP really hates/dislikes HC...
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Post by MizIndependent on Apr 7, 2016 0:04:19 GMT
I definitely get the "vibe" that the OP really hates/dislikes HC... Yeah. I admit it. I really, really don't trust her.
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Post by kat on Apr 7, 2016 0:56:05 GMT
She's actually opening an office in CT, which doesn't really happen. Candidates don't really come here until after the primaries are done, and even then they tend to stick to the Stamford/Greenwich (ie where the money is) area. But she's opening one right smack dab in the center of the state. Hillary and Bernie each opened an office in Hartford the other day.
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Post by ntsf on Apr 7, 2016 0:56:16 GMT
one thing that hasn't been discussed much is how much money is bernie raising for the general democrat party...like to help others in the party get elected. I know hillary is raising money for the party, as well as for herself. is bernie really embracing the party..or just using it?
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Post by cmpeter on Apr 7, 2016 4:13:08 GMT
I don't think anyone expected her to win Wisconsin. Same is true about the upcoming WY primary. Now, if she loses in places like NY, IL,, etc, then I can see panic by her campaign.
And, she's trying to win an election, so is he. I assume they both have plans to win.
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Post by Deleted on Apr 7, 2016 10:02:24 GMT
What do you all think or feel about her smear campaign using the Sandy Hook massacre as a talking point about gun control? Article
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Post by mollycoddle on Apr 7, 2016 10:10:07 GMT
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Post by Deleted on Apr 7, 2016 10:13:32 GMT
one thing that hasn't been discussed much is how much money is bernie raising for the general democrat party...like to help others in the party get elected. I know hillary is raising money for the party, as well as for herself. is bernie really embracing the party..or just using it? Well, first of all, the DNC has not given him any opportunities to fundraise for them. Second of all, they do not support him, in any way shape or form. So why would he raise money for them if they do not support him? He has supported the Democrats at least 90 percent of the time, voting for their bills and helping them with their programs. Now, when he needs their support, they refuse to stand by him.
I imagine that he will start fundraising for them if he wins the nomination. Right now, he's fighting tooth and nail just to get there.
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Post by Deleted on Apr 7, 2016 10:23:10 GMT
Not sure what you meant by beanbag?
But I don't disagree with him. She definitely is not qualified despite what everyone thinks. A presidency under her would be disastrous. She is so busy pandering to whatever corporation or country buys her loyalty.
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Post by mollycoddle on Apr 7, 2016 10:44:00 GMT
Not sure what you meant by beanbag?
But I don't disagree with him. She definitely is not qualified despite what everyone thinks. A presidency under her would be disastrous. She is so busy pandering to whatever corporation or country buys her loyalty.
It's an old saying, meaning that politics isn't a game. And I disagree with you. I think that she is very qualified. But then, I never have been able to figure out Bernie's appeal. I believe that we do need reforms, but I also think that requires a detailed plan. If he wins the nomination, I will vote for him, because despite my doubts, he will be better than the Republican alternative. And now it's time to get ready for work.
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Post by nurseypants on Apr 7, 2016 14:07:24 GMT
Sometimes I wonder if certain posters have ever witnessed an election before.
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Post by Deleted on Apr 7, 2016 15:17:32 GMT
one thing that hasn't been discussed much is how much money is bernie raising for the general democrat party...like to help others in the party get elected. I know hillary is raising money for the party, as well as for herself. is bernie really embracing the party..or just using it? Well, first of all, the DNC has not given him any opportunities to fundraise for them. Second of all, they do not support him, in any way shape or form. So why would he raise money for them if they do not support him? He has supported the Democrats at least 90 percent of the time, voting for their bills and helping them with their programs. Now, when he needs their support, they refuse to stand by him.
I imagine that he will start fundraising for them if he wins the nomination. Right now, he's fighting tooth and nail just to get there.
I imagine he won't do any fundraising for the DNC if he is the nominee. Because if he should become the nominee he is going to need every penny he gets for himself. If he is the nominee he will go up against a well funded Republican opponent. So either Bernie caves and accepts that " dirty" money or he crashes and burns. But who is to say if that "dirty" money will even be offered to Bernie if he should become the nominee. Those donors may just decide to sit on the sidelines. As far as the DNC not supporting him let's review the facts. 1. He ONLY registered as a Democrat so he could run for President to take advantage of the Democratic infrastructure. Prior to that he offered very little if any support to the DNC. To long term Democrat leaders things like this matters. I think it's called "using" somebody to obtain personal gains. In this case he is using the Democratic Party for his personal gains. 2. When a software glitch in the DNC system made Hillary's voter data accessible to the Sanders campaign instead of walking away from it they not only looked at it they downloaded some of it. And they got caught and every since they have been trying to play the victim ever since. Including filing that ridiculous law suit against the DNC. My question is why should the DNC support Bernie?
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Post by katieanna on Apr 7, 2016 15:39:23 GMT
That is how the political game is played. I am not shocked nor surprised. It is cut throat if one wants to be in the White House.....if you think otherwise, you are naive. I've long since come to the conclusion that the kind of person who should be President is the kind of person who would never seek it. The kind of person who should be President would never be able to win. There's so much back room dealing and compromising and scheming. I just don't see how you can keep your principles and character and still win. Call me jaded, but that's how I see it. Well said and I can't agree with you more. I can't remember feeling so discouraged during an election.
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Post by BeckyTech on Apr 7, 2016 16:57:17 GMT
Is this who we want representing the Democrats? So I guess everything that the Democrats have done before this has been fine with you, which is why you are only just now objecting. Either that, or you don't read much about politics.
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Post by MizIndependent on Apr 7, 2016 18:16:30 GMT
Is this who we want representing the Democrats? So I guess everything that the Democrats have done before this has been fine with you, which is why you are only just now objecting. Either that, or you don't read much about politics. Becky, I really don't think that is fair. I'm questioning if Hillary is the type of person we want representing the Democratic Party and you're attacking the idea that I can question that, even questioning my intelligence by suggesting that I "don't read much about politics." I expect better from you and actually, this breakdown in discourse really saddens me. I have a right to question any of the candidates ethics/morals/qualifications same as you do, whether or not I've been a life-long Democrat.
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Post by papercrafteradvocate on Apr 7, 2016 18:28:37 GMT
Not sure what you meant by beanbag?
But I don't disagree with him. She definitely is not qualified despite what everyone thinks. A presidency under her would be disastrous. She is so busy pandering to whatever corporation or country buys her loyalty.
She certainly is more qualified--especially more so than any other candidate running! Donations from companies do not make one any less qualified to run the country. Bernie has no clue as to what it takes to run the country--he cannot even answer questions in regards to his own platform issues.
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Post by peano on Apr 7, 2016 18:31:43 GMT
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