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Post by crimsoncat05 on Apr 21, 2016 23:58:37 GMT
Except for online purchases I pay for everything with cash. I don't get how having and using cash is difficult. Any change I get that's under a pound gets put aside and it adds up nicely over the year. ^^^ It's not that it's difficult, it's that I don't want to carry cash around with me because if I did, I would spend it on random things. I don't think anyone here is saying it's difficult to use cash, just that it's not their preference. ETA: And I will say, I've been guilty of paying for something less than $5 with a card before, but it's usually because I thought I had enough cash on me and didn't realize I wouldn't have enough for the purchase till I'm up at the register. I guess I figured that somehow businesses (small or large) factored the cost of accepting credit cards into their cost of doing business.
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Post by gmcwife1 on Apr 22, 2016 0:20:32 GMT
This is exactly why I don't frequent a couple of local coffee stands. If my $15 coffee purchase is too small for them to want because I don't carry cash, then I won't stop. I'm not going to go to the bank every time we might want a frap or coffee. So off to Starbucks or one of the other stands that does not tack on a fee for using a card. When asked, I always tell the business it doesn't matter to me if they do debit or credit, it's whatever is best for them. Most businesses seem to appreciate that and don't turn my business away. I wasn't talking about $15 purchases and wouldn't have a problem with that. I was talking about the people who would hand me a card to pay for a couple sheets of paper or a pen that was under $2. On purchases that small, I would actually lose money on the sale after paying the 3% discount rate and a 30¢ per transaction swipe fee on top of all my other overhead. And that was in the days before merchants *could* tack on a fee for using plastic. There was a clause in the merchant agreement to accept the cards for payments in ANY amount regardless of how small it was. I once had someone want to pay for a 53¢ purchase with their credit card. I told the lady to just take it and pay me next time. Honestly, for a purchase that small I could probably find enough coins under the seat of my car. Ahhh, that makes sense For me a small purchase is an individual fro fro coffee drink at $4.50 - $5.00 plus tip, so less than a dollar is ridiculous and I would never even think to do that! Several of the coffee stands don't even have anything under a dollar and do charge to use your card so I go to the places that don't. I rarely get a single drink since I usually have my dd and her boyfriend with me
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Post by threegirls on Apr 22, 2016 0:21:11 GMT
When my DH and I started out we were mostly cash then we eventually moved to cards.We always paid the cards off every month, we never carried a balance. A few months ago we went back to cash. It made my first trip to Costco with cash very interesting. I spent about $75.00 less than what I would have if I had used the credit card. Those shorts that I thought were cute? Didn't get them. I don't really need yet another pair. Those steaks that looked really good? Didn't get them. Chicken worked.
I think it's also good for my kids to actually see the money being spent. We have always been pretty good with money but using cash-only has made us even better.
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Post by melanell on Apr 22, 2016 0:23:42 GMT
We mostly use a credit card that gives us cash back. However, we do take out some cash each week for things like the farmers' market, weekly dues for clubs or sports, library fines, garage sales, ice cream stands, etc. We use far more cash in the warm weather months than in the winter.
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Post by gmcwife1 on Apr 22, 2016 0:24:02 GMT
Except for online purchases I pay for everything with cash. I don't get how having and using cash is difficult. Any change I get that's under a pound gets put aside and it adds up nicely over the year. ^^^ It's not that it's difficult, it's that I don't want to carry cash around with me because if I did, I would spend it on random things. I don't think anyone here is saying it's difficult to use cash, just that it's not their preference. ETA: And I will say, I've been guilty of paying for something less than $5 with a card before, but it's usually because I thought I had enough cash on me and didn't realize I wouldn't have enough for the purchase till I'm up at the register. I guess I figured that somehow businesses (small or large) factored the cost of accepting credit cards into their cost of doing business. Exactly, why should we have to go to the bank to get cash when we don't need to? I rarely need to go to the bank, I don't write checks, I don't deposit or withdraw cash, I have direct deposit, I do auto bill pay, so why would I want to make a special trip to the bank on my lunch 1/2 hour just so I can carry cash when my debit card does the same thing only easier.
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Post by melanell on Apr 22, 2016 0:25:56 GMT
While we use our debit card for mostly everything I do agree it does make it easier to overspend. In fact, when we vacation we always do it on a cash basis. Because otherwise we would swipe, swipe, swipe with abandon. It is much easier when you have the actual visual of the dollars for us. We use cash on vacation as well. We budget a certain amount of money per day to keep ourselves from going nuts.
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Post by luvnlifelady on Apr 22, 2016 1:04:25 GMT
I track everything (or at least I'm trying to) so I would still have to track that expense. I guess it could just go in the vacation category.
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Post by ShesaRenegade on Apr 22, 2016 1:07:00 GMT
I tend to not have many $5 bills so instead I started saving all of my $1 bills. I won't spend them (even if something is $1 at the store I had over a $5 or larger) and then when I get home I drop every one of the $1 bills, along with any change, into my large jar. Right now I have close to $1000 in my jar (in bills alone) that I'll use as spending money for my trip to New Zealand later this year. I did this last year, too, for my trip to the Galapagos and Machu Picchu.
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Post by melanell on Apr 22, 2016 1:27:39 GMT
Oh, I forgot, I also dole out allowances in cash, which means I give some of my fives away!
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Post by leeny on Apr 22, 2016 1:33:34 GMT
I have heard of that, but don't know anyone who has tried it. If I carry cash I try to get small bills. My Credit Union ATM issues $5 bills, so I always have them! I don't know if I could save them!
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Post by chaosisapony on Apr 22, 2016 2:00:27 GMT
Except for online purchases I pay for everything with cash. I don't get how having and using cash is difficult. Any change I get that's under a pound gets put aside and it adds up nicely over the year. ^^^ It's not that it's difficult, it's that I don't want to carry cash around with me because if I did, I would spend it on random things. I don't think anyone here is saying it's difficult to use cash, just that it's not their preference. That's me too. If I have a few dollars in my wallet I will inevitably spend them on something. Usually it would be a snack or a drink in the middle of the work day. If I don't have any cash I'm not going to walk to the cafe and get a $1 snack or pop into the candy store for a $2 treat. Those things aren't "worth" using my debit card on and some of the places I go have a $10 minimum to use your debit card so that ensures I won't be swinging by making impulse purchases.
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Post by GiantsFan on Apr 22, 2016 2:08:38 GMT
It wouldn't work for me. I pay most everything with my credit card. Its an automatic payment from my checking account to pay in full on the due date. So I'm still watching and being accountable for how much I spend. Plus I get cash back. That said, just today I found a five in the front pocket of my gym bag and one in the "key" pocket of my workout pants.
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Post by Deleted on Apr 22, 2016 2:15:00 GMT
I'm not a cash user either, but DH is. He fills up jars of coins and nets about $300-500 a year when he rolls them up. Friends of mine were cash users and would dump their change in a big glass bowl every night when they got home. They always ended up with at least $2k yearly for vacation from that change jar.
Hey, little bits add up.
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Post by Linda on Apr 22, 2016 2:38:17 GMT
This is exactly why I don't frequent a couple of local coffee stands. If my $15 coffee purchase is too small for them to want because I don't carry cash, then I won't stop. I'm not going to go to the bank every time we might want a frap or coffee. So off to Starbucks or one of the other stands that does not tack on a fee for using a card. When asked, I always tell the business it doesn't matter to me if they do debit or credit, it's whatever is best for them. Most businesses seem to appreciate that and don't turn my business away. I wasn't talking about $15 purchases and wouldn't have a problem with that. I was talking about the people who would hand me a card to pay for a couple sheets of paper or a pen that was under $2. On purchases that small, I would actually lose money on the sale after paying the 3% discount rate and a 30¢ per transaction swipe fee on top of all my other overhead. And that was in the days before merchants *could* tack on a fee for using plastic. There was a clause in the merchant agreement to accept the cards for payments in ANY amount regardless of how small it was. I once had someone want to pay for a 53¢ purchase with their credit card. I told the lady to just take it and pay me next time. Honestly, for a purchase that small I could probably find enough coins under the seat of my car. I try very hard not to spend less than $5 or $10 at a small business since I do almost always use my debit card (and while I prefer to use it as 'credit' since my CU gives a nickel back - I do ask at small business which they prefer debit or credit). At a chain like WalMart? I have no qualms about swiping my card for a small purchase. The LSS here is cash-only - I'll be honest, between the limited hours and the fact I have to remember to get cash, I probably don't shop their as often as I might otherwise...
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Post by FurryP on Apr 22, 2016 2:43:50 GMT
I have nothing against cash. For those of you that do.....bundle it up and send it to me!
I do use mostly my debit card. However I do carry cash for some things; drinks, ordering delivered lunches with co-workers, convenience stores, etc.
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Post by crazy4scraps on Apr 22, 2016 3:10:11 GMT
^^^ It's not that it's difficult, it's that I don't want to carry cash around with me because if I did, I would spend it on random things. I don't think anyone here is saying it's difficult to use cash, just that it's not their preference. ETA: And I will say, I've been guilty of paying for something less than $5 with a card before, but it's usually because I thought I had enough cash on me and didn't realize I wouldn't have enough for the purchase till I'm up at the register. I guess I figured that somehow businesses (small or large) factored the cost of accepting credit cards into their cost of doing business. Most businesses try to. The problem that I was dealing with (and that the recent credit card processing laws have somewhat addressed) was that merchants were stuck in the middle of a huge catch-22. You NEED to be able to accept cards (debit and credit) because so many people use them, so I got a merchant account and agreed to all their crazy rules such as no added fees to accept cards, agree to accept payment for any amount and so on. Problem is, the rules were the same whether it was a credit or debit card, but many people used them differently. People using a credit card tended to spend more to make it "worth" putting on the card. But when debit cards became popular people were much more careful with their purchases so they wouldn't get overdrafts and would spend as little as possible when using debit. As a business owner I got charged the same fees either way. Okay, I totally get that. BUT, as a business owner if everybody charges their $1 purchase on their debit card, my *average* credit sale drops to a very low amount. When that happened, the credit card processor would jack up the discount rate fees I had to pay and there wasn't anything I could do about it because I was forced to agree to it. When you start a business, all you can do is guess what your average sale will be because you have no sales history to base it on. So on the one hand, I was obligated to accept any card for any amount but on the other hand I was being penalized for doing so! I couldn't even put up a sign *suggesting* a lower dollar limit for card transactions or I could risk losing my merchant account. A business selling $500 tvs will have an average credit sale that's much higher than a business selling $5 cups of coffee, and the coffee business will end up paying credit card fees almost 3-4 times higher than the tv business because of it. And then when the rates and fees DO get raised by the card processor and the coffee business raises their prices to offset those higher costs (factoring it in, as noted above), people then complain about that too and say that the small business is price gouging.
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Post by katlady on Apr 22, 2016 4:19:08 GMT
I remember one small business telling me once that they prefer not to take American Express because the fees that AE charges are so much higher than the other cards. I understand how this can hurt the business, especially smaller retail stores. You don't want to charge more than retail because the customers know their prices, yet charging retail and accepting high fee credit cards can hurt your bottom line. Small businesses really are stuck since they can't get the higher discounts big box stores can get for buying in mass quantities.
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Post by AussieMeg on Apr 22, 2016 4:28:49 GMT
Saving every $5 note or $1 or $2 coin etc just wouldn't work for me. I don't carry much cash, just enough for an emergency. If I were to put all of my $1 or $2 coins into a money box, then the next time I needed to buy something small I'd have to break a $5 or $10 note to buy it. Then I'd put the $1 or $2 change in the money box, then next time I had to buy something small I'd have to break yet another note and so on and so on and so on..... So in the end I've had to get more cash out of the bank and break lots of notes just to save my small change.
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Post by Delta Dawn on Apr 22, 2016 4:29:27 GMT
Cash and debit all the way. I usually just have cash unless I want to buy something using Paypal.
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Post by gar on Apr 22, 2016 9:32:30 GMT
^^^ It's not that it's difficult, it's that I don't want to carry cash around with me because if I did, I would spend it on random things. I don't think anyone here is saying it's difficult to use cash, just that it's not their preference. ETA: And I will say, I've been guilty of paying for something less than $5 with a card before, but it's usually because I thought I had enough cash on me and didn't realize I wouldn't have enough for the purchase till I'm up at the register. I guess I figured that somehow businesses (small or large) factored the cost of accepting credit cards into their cost of doing business. Exactly, why should we have to go to the bank to get cash when we don't need to? I rarely need to go to the bank, I don't write checks, I don't deposit or withdraw cash, I have direct deposit, I do auto bill pay, so why would I want to make a special trip to the bank on my lunch 1/2 hour just so I can carry cash when my debit card does the same thing only easier. Don't you have ATM machines all over the place? You don't have to actually go to a bank to get cash out do you? (General you'd )
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Post by Meri-Lyn on Apr 22, 2016 13:26:34 GMT
I use my debit card for almost everything. I do give the kids cash for lunch money and allowance. But what I do is log into my bank everyday to check my transactions on my lunch hour. I take the "change" and throw it in my savings. So if I look and my account balance is $250.33, I take the 0.33 and throw it in my savings account. I do this everyday and it isn't much money, but at least I feel like I am saving extra. And keeping my checking account to a nice, round number, as well. This is a great idea! I am so particular about keeping a ledger though (and reconciling it two to three times a week), I wonder how crazy I would make myself doing this. BOA and Wells Fargo have programs that will do this automatically for you. Maybe check out and see if your bank does? (I've done it for a while now.) I also use my debit card almost exclusively. Cards can be replaced if stolen, cash not so much. I usually take out about $20 a week for little things (sodas, etc), but I use my card on pretty much everything else. I'm pretty meticulous about keeping track of my balances, etc., so I know how much I have to spend. Interesting story, we had a guy do our landscaping yesterday. When he was done, I was going to write him a check, but he asked if he could have cash instead. I had to trek down to the ATM to get some. He claimed his wife had the ATM card and he couldn't make any deposits. Upon further investigation by DH, it appears he wanted some "fun" money his wife didn't know about. DH recognized this pretty quickly, as his cousin does the same thing with his wife. (But that's another saga entirely, haha!)
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Post by Deleted on Apr 22, 2016 13:31:23 GMT
Exactly, why should we have to go to the bank to get cash when we don't need to? I rarely need to go to the bank, I don't write checks, I don't deposit or withdraw cash, I have direct deposit, I do auto bill pay, so why would I want to make a special trip to the bank on my lunch 1/2 hour just so I can carry cash when my debit card does the same thing only easier. Don't you have ATM machines all over the place? You don't have to actually go to a bank to get cash out do you? (General you'd ) There are ATMs all over, but they generally have fees if they aren't attached to a bank. If I need cash, I usually use my debit card when checking out at the grocery store and get cash back. ETA: There are also generally fees if you are a customer at Bank A and use your debit card at Bank B's ATM to get cash.
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Post by Meri-Lyn on Apr 22, 2016 13:38:31 GMT
This is us too, exactly. DH usually has more cash than I do, but I typically have at least some cash in my purse. I hate having to use a debit/credit card for small purchases. I *WAS* that small businessperson not making anything on those small sales when I had my store back in the day, and I refuse to do that to other small businesspeople if I can help it. In some cases it was cheaper to just give the person the item they wanted for free than it was to charge their card for it. I also don't like using a debit card for every little thing for the added reason that it makes balancing my bank account a huge PITA when the bank statement is three pages of transactions under $20 to reconcile, even though we're using Quickbooks, etc. to do it. (And yes, I still reconcile my checking account monthly. As a former bank employee who had to balance other people's hot messes that got out of hand, it's something I won't skip.) This is exactly why I don't frequent a couple of local coffee stands. If my $15 coffee purchase is too small for them to want because I don't carry cash, then I won't stop. I'm not going to go to the bank every time we might want a frap or coffee. So off to Starbucks or one of the other stands that does not tack on a fee for using a card. When asked, I always tell the business it doesn't matter to me if they do debit or credit, it's whatever is best for them. Most businesses seem to appreciate that and don't turn my business away. I guess I am that person, as my bank statement is usually about 2-3 pages. $5 is my limit though on debit vs. cash. I do take into account, is it a small business vs. is it a big chain (like Starbucks). My germaphobe BIL takes the cake, though. I've seen him use a debit card to pay for a $1.50 thing of french fries at McDonalds, because he thinks money is "dirty" and it squeaks him out touching it.
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Post by Meri-Lyn on Apr 22, 2016 13:41:18 GMT
Don't you have ATM machines all over the place? You don't have to actually go to a bank to get cash out do you? (General you'd ) There are ATMs all over, but they generally have fees if they aren't attached to a bank. If I need cash, I usually use my debit card when checking out at the grocery store and get cash back. I get mine at the grocery too, usually, for weekly cash. We have WF and they have offices everywhere, so no shortage of machines. The account I do have with them allows you to go outside their network once a month, and they will reimburse you any fees. (But again, between going to the store, and the abundance of branches, I've never had to do that.)
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Post by crazy4scraps on Apr 22, 2016 14:01:26 GMT
Don't you have ATM machines all over the place? You don't have to actually go to a bank to get cash out do you? (General you'd ) There are ATMs all over, but they generally have fees if they aren't attached to a bank. If I need cash, I usually use my debit card when checking out at the grocery store and get cash back. Most major banks around here have lots of branded ATMs everywhere that are not connected to branches and that are free for their customers to use. You have to pay a fee only if you aren't a customer of that bank, or if you're using another bank's ATM. Then there's the cash back option at the grocery store, Target, all kinds of places. Most of the time it pops right up on the screen when you check out. I've never done it that way, so I don't know if there are fees when you add cash back to your transaction or not.
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Post by myshelly on Apr 22, 2016 14:25:46 GMT
Exactly, why should we have to go to the bank to get cash when we don't need to? I rarely need to go to the bank, I don't write checks, I don't deposit or withdraw cash, I have direct deposit, I do auto bill pay, so why would I want to make a special trip to the bank on my lunch 1/2 hour just so I can carry cash when my debit card does the same thing only easier. Don't you have ATM machines all over the place? You don't have to actually go to a bank to get cash out do you? (General you'd ) I need/use cash so little that I've never even used an ATM. I don't even know what my PIN is.
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Post by grinningcat on Apr 22, 2016 14:32:02 GMT
Don't you have ATM machines all over the place? You don't have to actually go to a bank to get cash out do you? (General you'd ) I need/use cash so little that I've never even used an ATM. I don't even know what my PIN is. Then how do you use your debit card at all? Don't you have to put the pin in for a transaction? The only time we don't have to put a pin in for a debit transaction is if we tap... though that's not entirely true since they randomly ask for the pin especially for large tap transactions.
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Post by Linda on Apr 22, 2016 14:32:14 GMT
Exactly, why should we have to go to the bank to get cash when we don't need to? I rarely need to go to the bank, I don't write checks, I don't deposit or withdraw cash, I have direct deposit, I do auto bill pay, so why would I want to make a special trip to the bank on my lunch 1/2 hour just so I can carry cash when my debit card does the same thing only easier. Don't you have ATM machines all over the place? You don't have to actually go to a bank to get cash out do you? (General you'd ) yes and no - there are ATMs all over the place but unless I use one belonging to my credit union (or bank), I get charged fees (sometimes by the ATM, sometimes by my CU/Bank, sometimes you get super lucky and get both). My CU is local - there's one branch in the town I live outside and I think 3 or 4 others in nearby towns - their only ATMs are at the branches. I can get cash back with purchase using my debit card for free (no fees) at bigger merchants which is usually what I do if I need cash (rarely).
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Post by grinningcat on Apr 22, 2016 14:33:03 GMT
There are ATMs all over, but they generally have fees if they aren't attached to a bank. If I need cash, I usually use my debit card when checking out at the grocery store and get cash back. Most major banks around here have lots of branded ATMs everywhere that are not connected to branches and that are free for their customers to use. You have to pay a fee only if you aren't a customer of that bank, or if you're using another bank's ATM. Then there's the cash back option at the grocery store, Target, all kinds of places. Most of the time it pops right up on the screen when you check out. I've never done it that way, so I don't know if there are fees when you add cash back to your transaction or not. I've done it a couple times and I'm pretty sure there isn't a fee since it is just added to your total balance. But it's been a while, so I could be wrong.
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Post by Linda on Apr 22, 2016 14:35:00 GMT
I need/use cash so little that I've never even used an ATM. I don't even know what my PIN is. Then how do you use your debit card at all? Don't you have to put the pin in for a transaction? The only time we don't have to put a pin in for a debit transaction is if we tap... though that's not entirely true since they randomly ask for the pin especially for large tap transactions. I almost never use my PIN for my debit (only if I need cash back or am using the ATM - both rare). I usually run my debit card as credit - my CU gives us a nickel on every debit card transaction we run as credit (signature vs pin) - I have to sign for purchases over about $20 or so (depends on the business)
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