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Post by workingclassdog on Apr 25, 2016 20:47:12 GMT
Ugggg.. I don't have the most manicured lawn, or the nicest flowers and all that.. But we keep our grass cut, almost weed free or try to be weed free...we don't spend a "ton" of time on the yard....but walking my daughter back and forth to school, people just don't give a flip about what their homes look like. WHY? I don't get it.. even renting, why is it such a pain to mow a yard that isn't much bigger than the size of a postage stamp.
One neighbor down the street, he hangs his watering hose from a broken limb on the tree.. It's been hanging like that for six months? Now they have added two formal living room type chairs to the front porch. Classy.
Another yard 1/2 their grass looks like it is moldy.. I don't know what they have done to it.. but it looks gross.
HOA is saying all the homes need to be painted this year (they been warned for the last two years).. I seriously doubt 1/2 of anyone gets them done. (my home has been painted)...
I just don't know why people move into a community that clearly states to keep your yard/house looking decent. Our HOA isn't horrible either.. they are pretty lenient for the most part.
Don't people have any pride in where they live? If there wasn't HOA I would hate to see what kind of state this neighborhood would be in now... It's a great place.. lots of parks in the neighborhood, walking paths.. a school...it is a decent neighborhood...
I just hate this time of year... everything is coming up so nice and then there is that house that really ruins it.
Oh well.. nothing is ever perfect, right?
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Post by myshelly on Apr 25, 2016 20:49:44 GMT
So if you live in an HOA why isn't the HOA enforcing anything?
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Post by luvnlifelady on Apr 25, 2016 20:52:44 GMT
We are not in an HOA. Some houses are pretty bad but most of them keep up the outside. There was a house that was an eyesore just as you enter the tract. It was bad. High weekds/grass and the outside just looking really. Come to find out it was in foreclosure yet the owner was still there part of the time. He finally left and they are just now rehabbing the house for probable sale again. Kind of sad though. We keep our's looking decent most of the time but our neighbor probably still wishes we had an HOA. We sometimes leave things out longer than they should but he has grown children while we still have kids at home that have stuff out and about from time to time.
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Post by freebird on Apr 25, 2016 20:53:33 GMT
"Our HOA isn't horrible either.. they are pretty lenient for the most part."
Looks like that might be a big factor.
I can care less about dandelions. I'm not going to fight it. We do keep it mowed though.
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Post by anonrefugee on Apr 25, 2016 21:08:01 GMT
I thought the point of most HOA s was to prevent problems like OPs?
I try to be patient if house maintenance suddenly slips- in case there's illness or bigger issues happening.
We have a neighbor that's showing signs of crazy, it's been growing for one year at least. I called our city's property standards office last week to ask questions and was relieved to find out they have a case open. The strangest part was learning they had originally been called about the backyard - which I'd never seen. Now I want to go in alley and peek over their fence - see what wonders lie there.
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Post by crimsoncat05 on Apr 25, 2016 21:15:05 GMT
even if your HOA actually does things, it can take for-EVER:
-- letter to the homeowner -- 30 - 60 days to respond (or not). -- no response, second letter to the homeowner -- more time -- repeat till they get to the fine and $$ part-- then -- fine the homeowner --- more time (if they don't care, they won't pay).
Repeat this a few times till it's gone on long enough or is egregious enough that they actually have to get a lawyer involved and 6 months to a year or more could have gone by before anything happens, if at all. Even if they put a lien on the property, I think sometimes the homeowners don't care.
It's even worse if the homeowner is renting out the house and/or isn't local! Then it can take even longer, because the homeowner: a) doesn't care as long as they're getting their rent payment b) has never told the renters what the rules are (even though they're supposed to) and/or c) is out of state so photos have to be taken of everything to include with the correspondence.
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Post by Dori~Mama~Bear on Apr 25, 2016 21:15:14 GMT
I know what you mean.
It just blows my mind why people do or don't do what they do or don't do to their yards.
In our Apartment complex there are green spaces for the dogs (we are a very pet friendly complex) and it blows my mind on how many people let their pets poop and don't pick it up. The complex has poop stations all over the place and they just added one to the green space by our building that we use because it is the closest to us and I don't have to walk across the complex to the other one.
The landscapers come every Thursday and they cut the grass and walk all over the poop and make a mess with it all over the grass and then we have to take our dogs out there.
We always pick up after our dogs.
I just don't understand how some one can watch their dog poop with in 5 feet of the poop station with poop bags supplied and just walk away without picking it up.
I can understand it if you are out in the woods or in your own yard but dam people think of others when your pooping dog is pooping and you don't pick it up.
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Post by scrappinmama on Apr 25, 2016 21:18:38 GMT
I'm patient within reason. Maybe someone is battling a serious illness, or suffered a job loss and doesn't have the money. But if the place looks like a dump, there's no excuse for that.
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Post by Gravity on Apr 25, 2016 21:30:41 GMT
Me neighbors have nice flower beds but a yard full of grass burrs. They refuse to treat their yard because the don't want to use chemicals due to their kids. However, they sure don't have a problem with their kids playing in my yard all the time. They know I use chemicals to control weeds and don't seem to care.
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Post by papersilly on Apr 25, 2016 21:36:42 GMT
why? because some people just don't give a crap about things that you and I do. to some people, it's just a roof over their heads. nothing more. if they rent, they have no vested interest so why keep it in good condition? if they "own" but the house is upside down or mortgaged to the hilt, why maintain it for resale value? some people simply don't care if the paint is peeling, lawn is dead, windows are broken or rotting off. it's like when when I see people throw trash out of their cars or just leave their Starbucks cups on random shelves at Target or wherever, I can only wonder how they treat their houses.
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Post by IAmUnoriginal on Apr 25, 2016 21:41:30 GMT
Our next door neighbors are those folks on our block. We moved in 6 years ago. When we give people directions to our house, we use theirs as the landmark. "When you see the long grass and/or rusty (super rusty) garage door, we're the house just to the east of that." I've had to call code enforcement on them a few times for various maintenance problems, but usually their 12" grass (code is 8"). We don't have an HOA to make them paint or replace that damn garage door. But, I can force them to cut their lawn before all the woodland critters become our neighbors with a call. The village did it for them once and invoiced them for the labor hours. I wish I could bill them for the hours I have to spend plucking weeds out of our yard because they won't take care of theirs. The lady to the east of us is super particular about her yard and property. It's beautiful. I'll keep mine acceptable and enjoy looking at hers. She's single, doesn't have kids and is home a lot with her schedule as a flight attendant.
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Post by Lexica on Apr 25, 2016 21:46:29 GMT
We had a house at the end of our development that had always been kept up nicely, lawns mowed, cars in the garage, flowers annually, etc. Then things were not getting done. There were weeds everywhere and you could tell someone had just given up. We eventually found out that the wife had been diagnosed with terminal cancer and her husband couldn't deal with everything. As soon as the neighbors closest to them heard what was going on, they started mowing their grass and sweeping the leaves, pulling weeds, etc. It wasn't so much that they didn't want to live by an eyesore, they felt it was the least they could do for the poor husband. The husband either quit his job or they let him go, but he was home all the time as her end was coming. After the wife passed, he lost the house, which isn't surprising because he wasn't working, but it was all just so sad.
If a home had previously been kept up, and starts to go down hill, maybe find out what is going on in the home, if the neighbors are all friendly enough, maybe they can chip in and care for it like they did on my street.
And your association must be very lenient if they let the guy hang a hose off a tree limb in the front yard for 6 months. That's a pretty easy fix!
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Post by Linda on Apr 25, 2016 21:46:56 GMT
I'm so glad that we don't live in an HOA - because I'm sure we would be the neighbours you are talking about It's not because we don't care - it's because we're overwhelmed and as soon as we handle one thing, three more need handling. Time and money and skill are all in short supply here. My yard? we have four acres, 2 of which are wooded, 2 of which have 'grass' (aka weeds we mow). They badly need mowing but we weren't home last weekend (visiting my terminally ill MIL) and the push mower I use won't start (I can't manage the riding mower). Trees need trimming too and I'm doing them about one/week but it's slow going (one tree's trimming fill my two spare bins). Weeding? I'll get to it. We've recently added a ramp to the front of the house - it looks nice - but the deck on the back needs to be torn down and replaced. The time and money that would have done the deck went into doing the ramp when we were expecting MIL to move in (she got too sick for that to happen) My niece recently pressure washed the house for us - Bless her! It's a mobile home - nearly 20 years old. We replaced the roof a few months ago but there is a lot that needs doing still - it was bought as a fixer upper and well...live and learn but DH doesn't really have the time/skills for that and we bought right as the economy crashed so income dropped - we're doing better now but repairs cost money and hiring people costs more. We're doing our best...but I'm glad that our property isn't visible from either the street or our neighbours' houses.
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Post by AnotherPea on Apr 25, 2016 21:54:22 GMT
I don't care about yards. Mine or anyone else's. Sure, I can appreciate a beautiful yard, but not enough to spend the time or money on what it takes to maintain it. I'm the same way about my own appearance - I'm about three weeks past due a root touch-up but I just have better things to spend the hours and the $$ on. I'll get to it eventually. But until then, it isn't anyone's business but my own what I do with my hair. Or my yard.
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Post by betty on Apr 25, 2016 22:05:51 GMT
We aren't yard people and we just do the bare minimum to keep the HOA away. I consider all the joy and happiness that I give others who get to feel smug and good about themselves when they compare their perfect lawn to mine as my personal good deed of the day!
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Post by myshelly on Apr 25, 2016 22:06:36 GMT
I have a lot of pride in my house.
The inside is immaculate. There is not a speck of dust to be found, not a single thing out of place. I won't leave the house in the morning without all the beds being made and I won't go to sleep at night without all of the dishes and laundry being done.
But my yard? I could not care less. I don't even know what my front yard looks like right now (we have one of those houses where the driveway is at the rear so all my friends and family enter at the rear). I haven't been in the front yard in months. I'm not an outside person. I don't do outside work. If my husband doesn't have time the oh well.
Different people have different priorities. My yard will never be a priority to me.
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Post by cindyupnorth on Apr 25, 2016 22:22:45 GMT
I think a lot of people just don't have the time, resources or health to keep their lawns up as well as they should. We live out in the country. We have a HUGE lawn. Like 5 acres. My dh mows it all. There are times where it can get a big shaggy though, when we've gotten lots of rain or we've had busy wkends. I love flowers, flower gardens, etc, so We have quite a few gardens to keep up also. Sometimes I get behind. Right now our mailbox is leaning from the winter snow plow, and it's been raining all wkend, so we need to go fix that. Unfortunately there is the whole curb appeal deal. If your house looks clean, picked up, and neat on the outside, it has more appeal. if your house looks unkempt, shaggy, no appeal on the outside, most people think the inside of your looks the same.
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Post by gmcwife1 on Apr 25, 2016 22:55:36 GMT
I think a lot of people just don't have the time, resources or health to keep their lawns up as well as they should. We live out in the country. We have a HUGE lawn. Like 5 acres. My dh mows it all. There are times where it can get a big shaggy though, when we've gotten lots of rain or we've had busy wkends. I love flowers, flower gardens, etc, so We have quite a few gardens to keep up also. Sometimes I get behind. Right now our mailbox is leaning from the winter snow plow, and it's been raining all wkend, so we need to go fix that. Unfortunately there is the whole curb appeal deal. If your house looks clean, picked up, and neat on the outside, it has more appeal. if your house looks unkempt, shaggy, no appeal on the outside, most people think the inside of your looks the same. I figure this happens a lot or most times. I just don't worry about other people's yards since I never know what is going on in their lives.
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Post by refugeepea on Apr 25, 2016 23:06:20 GMT
I live in a neighborhood of starter homes, and some low income apartments, and regular apartments. Unfortunately the worst offenders are the renters. I DON'T automatically assume they aren't caring for things. In my area, it depends on the landlord if they do or do not do lawn maintenance; most do.
I also feel like you can't win. I've seen on here that some peas don't understand why people don't have flowers or do additional landscaping. I feel like my postage stamp front lawn looks perfectly fine. The area under our windows usually remains weed AND flower free. The other area has a rock area under that window. I live in a state with a desert climate. I don't want the aggravation of keeping things alive.
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Post by Deleted on Apr 25, 2016 23:36:10 GMT
I like in a similar neighborhood as refugeepea - starter homes for a lot of people. We do know which houses are rentals though. They're the ones with very little landscaping, sporadic lawn care, and often shabby looking houses. Are they all rentals? No but the majority of the houses that look this way are. There are several houses that really do a good job with their lawn care - trimmed bushes, weed-free flower beds/rock beds, etc. They actually stand out among the houses that don't look as nice.
Our yard is trimmed, mostly weed free. We have hops in our front flower bed so by June, we'll have this awesome wall of vines. Unfortunately, the house was a rental before we bought it. There is years of "bare minimum" to undo. Meanwhile, next door seems to only mow from May 1 to Sept 30. Another house is a junk yard/porch. Another has 20 planters with mostly dead plants in them. *sigh* Our yard is currently freshly mowed and between two yards that are in need.
Sometimes, it's hard not to judge when you know the people living in the house ARE able-bodied.
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Post by Yubon Peatlejuice on Apr 25, 2016 23:40:30 GMT
I live alone in a 2500 sq ft house ( it's too much space and I hate cleaning it all) with 9 cats and my son is there every-other-week. I work 60 hours a week and try to find time to work out after work plus DS is involved in multiple sports/activities. I am barely keeping it together INSIDE the house. I don't have time to give a flying fuck about the outside. I pay my neighbor to mow it in the back but in the front I have a bunch of ivy and I don't keep up on pulling weeds that grow in it. My house needs to be power washed and I need the gutters cleaned out. I'll get to it when I fucking get to it. Anyone who doesn't like it can kiss my ass.
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Post by originalvanillabean on Apr 25, 2016 23:42:44 GMT
even if your HOA actually does things, it can take for-EVER: -- letter to the homeowner -- 30 - 60 days to respond (or not). -- no response, second letter to the homeowner -- more time -- repeat till they get to the fine and $$ part-- then -- fine the homeowner --- more time (if they don't care, they won't pay). Repeat this a few times till it's gone on long enough or is egregious enough that they actually have to get a lawyer involved and 6 months to a year or more could have gone by before anything happens, if at all. Even if they put a lien on the property, I think sometimes the homeowners don't care. It's even worse if the homeowner is renting out the house and/or isn't local! Then it can take even longer, because the homeowner: a) doesn't care as long as they're getting their rent payment b) has never told the renters what the rules are (even though they're supposed to) and/or c) is out of state so photos have to be taken of everything to include with the correspondence. This!!
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Post by padresfan619 on Apr 25, 2016 23:45:37 GMT
I live in drought stricken California in a non-HOA community. I had all of the grass ripped out and replaced it with cactus, succulents, and other drought friendly plants. It is so low maintenance I don't even water the plants that often. I love it.
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Post by breetheflea on Apr 25, 2016 23:49:10 GMT
I try but it's all me. DH procrasinates on the yard work, and then surprise it's raining, can't weedwhack this weekend. I do keep it mowed as best as I can.
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Post by crazy4scraps on Apr 26, 2016 0:21:23 GMT
I honestly don't know. When we bought our former house, it needed a lot of help. We spent a lot of time (and money) systematically redoing just about room (some of them twice) in the 20+ years we lived there, plus we finished off the 1/2 story attic, added a 2.5 car garage, put in new steps outside in the front and back, worked on the landscaping in the front, a new retaining wall and a new asphalt driveway. Then we sold the house to my brother on a contract for deed when we moved here. In spite of putting a decent chunk of money down on it, he has really let the place go to the point where it looks like homeless people are squatting in the back porch. His cats trashed the vertical blinds in the living room, so he hung up some big flags in the front window. There is junk mail a foot deep littering the entire floor of the front porch, plus some old carpet from a different brother's house rolled up in there that should have gone to the dump a year ago. He let that same brother park his leaky junk camper in the driveway for a year which ruined the new asphalt where it leaked fluids. When I stopped there around Christmastime there were at least a dozen of the little free neighborhood newspapers laying scattered in the front yard. How hard is it to pick stuff like that up and throw it away or recycle it? As far as I can tell it's mostly just laziness. The house is small, and I lived there myself so I know it isn't that hard to keep that particular house looking halfway decent. It's just sad that for whatever reason some people are simply unable to keep their stuff nice. What's really stupid is that if he would have even kept it looking even the way we left it, he would have been able to turn around and sell it at a profit when the market turned around. The neighborhood it's in is highly desirable because of the location and close proximity to many things, so I'm sure it would sell quickly in today's market if it wasn't so rundown looking. I don't even want to know how bad it looks on the inside. Now if he defaults and we end up getting the house back for whatever reason, we would have to spend every dime of his down payment (and countless months of time) just getting it back to the way it was when we sold it to him. We're just praying that he will continue to make the payments on it long enough to be able to get a traditional mortgage on the place so we can cash out our interest in it and run, and if he does lose it it won't be our problem. It makes me sad to see that little house that we loved and took such good care of looking like a dump.
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Post by myboysnme on Apr 26, 2016 0:24:47 GMT
I have lived in my home in an HOA for 25 years. If I leave a couple of newspapers on my porch I get a letter from them. My yard is a mess. When we built the builder removed every bit of topsoil and sold it off.
We paid for years to have topsoil brought in; the rain washed it right down the sewer. We tried sod. It took in some places, others it didn't. We tried fighting the weeds, we tilled and reseeded and in the past decade we have given up. We put out weed killer and we mow, but not much else. It doesn't matter what we do. Our yard sucks. Our neighbors have varying degrees of the same situation.
We just don't care anymore. Too much money and effort and we don't care. We need so many home repairs but we have 2 kids in college and are really strapped. We have one neighbor who has a very nice yard. He is retired and out every single day weeding and fussing with his lawn.
When my husband and I drag ass in from work, we are lucky to get dinner on the stove. So to the OP's question - don't people care? No, we don't care. We are not interested in putting anymore time and money into it. When we move someday, we will try sod again to get it sold.
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Post by melanell on Apr 26, 2016 0:26:45 GMT
I can care less about dandelions. I'm not going to fight it. We do keep it mowed though. I actually love the look of fields of green grass dotted with yellow dandelions. Because people where I live have large yards (many acres each), you see a lot of that, and I just think it's lovely.
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Post by workingclassdog on Apr 26, 2016 0:28:52 GMT
even if your HOA actually does things, it can take for-EVER: -- letter to the homeowner -- 30 - 60 days to respond (or not). -- no response, second letter to the homeowner -- more time -- repeat till they get to the fine and $$ part-- then -- fine the homeowner --- more time (if they don't care, they won't pay). Repeat this a few times till it's gone on long enough or is egregious enough that they actually have to get a lawyer involved and 6 months to a year or more could have gone by before anything happens, if at all. Even if they put a lien on the property, I think sometimes the homeowners don't care. It's even worse if the homeowner is renting out the house and/or isn't local! Then it can take even longer, because the homeowner: a) doesn't care as long as they're getting their rent payment b) has never told the renters what the rules are (even though they're supposed to) and/or c) is out of state so photos have to be taken of everything to include with the correspondence. Yes this exactly.. there is only so much the HOA can do.... then a lien.... the homeowner just doesn't care. Then if they want to sell, they want the HOA to write off all the legal and late payments... yeah that has happened as well. I am on the board. I see what happens. Letter after letter, fine after fine. They just plain don't care until they want to sell.. then it is boo hoo me.. please waive all the extra charges so we can sell it...
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Post by kluski on Apr 26, 2016 0:36:19 GMT
Our gems have four dogs and don't pick up after them. Wait until the grass is about too high and never trims. We are looking at a 6ft privacy fence. Wish it could be taller. My concern once we install it is they will take down their chain link and their beasts will destroy our fence. Ughh no HOA here.
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Post by workingclassdog on Apr 26, 2016 0:38:01 GMT
If you don't live in an HOA community and you don't care about your lawn that is cool beans. But it kills me when you do live in an HOA and can't keep it looking decent.. Like I said I don't care if it isn't perfect. Heck ours is not perfect. We don't spend every weekend on the lawn. We may mow every other week, but we do keep it up. I might or might not put flowers out.. depends on $$$. But when you move to an HOA area please follow the rules to some extent.
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