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Post by Deleted on Apr 26, 2016 19:54:45 GMT
So basically she had her temper tantrum and got away with it. Nice to know the diva is strong in her. All I heard in her little message was "me me me me me me, I don't really mean what I'm saying, I was the one that was wronged, me me me me me me, everyone must bow to me, me me me me, how dare he leave for another gig what can be better than being with me me me me me, I'm just going to stamp my feet and make my opinion known, me me me me me, give me what I want dammit and now that I got it, I'm going to go back to my nice girl persona and make everyone think I really am a team player when it's obvious I'm not. Look at me me me me. I'm the most important person on the show and MY show has to be a priority to the network. It's inconceivable that anyone would think I'm anything less than the most important person on the network. Now where's my broom to rugsweep all this." Yeah, not buying it. She's a diva and she realised that her temper tantrum didn't get what she wanted. Now she's back with her tail between her legs. Cancel the diva and the show. They can do better. I have watched the show for years and did not see it this way at all. She took a day off and then went on her 20th anniversary weekend with her husband. She was hurt that she was told minutes before the public. I would have been too. She has taken one sick day in 16 years. I think she earned that day off to regroup. She said she was happy to have had the time to think through it. Her name is on the show and she does carry the show. I do love Michael and am sad to see him go, but Kelly is professional and upbeat and covers for Michael a lot. I thought it was interesting though that on today's show, the guest was talking about how long it took to put on the tattoos and Michael asked the question that the guest just answered. It happens at least once a week and Kelly covers for him. Today she did not. I think that people that don't like her feel she threw a tantrum and the people that do like her understand why she took a day off. She is in the public eye and it was important that she not throw a tantrum. I do hope the next cohost fills Michaels shoes and I wish them both well. I see it this way also.....hate Kelly Ripa all you want, call her names, don't watch her show, wish her ill will, but I'd be willing to bet that most of you belly aching about her "tantrum" wouldn't have taken it in the shorts when your boss of 25 years thought it would be SO cool to announce that your co-host is leaving the show without giving you a heads up.....yea, I'm sure all of you would have been pleased as punch at that.
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Post by melissa on Apr 26, 2016 20:07:59 GMT
I honestly didn't know the show was still broadcast nationwide. I didn't notice when it was moved to FOX. That must be your local affiliate. It is still on ABC in the NYC and Philly markets. The show is still owned by ABC/Disney. I would not have been surprised if a man did the same thing and took a day off to gather his thoughts/calm down/whatever. She only took a single extra day off. The other days were previously scheduled. She was blindsided. She used the word respect in her monologue. This was handled with absolutely no respect towards her. I would dare say this was handled in an unprofessional manner, with her learning from her co-host that he was leaving just moments before it was announced to the public. If the executives had handled this appropriately, there would have been a meeting before the public announcement and not minutes before.
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Post by gmcwife1 on Apr 26, 2016 20:22:22 GMT
I can see that some people think this way, but if a man acted like her, would we think the same way? I just wonder if she is getting hit harder for this because she is female. I think we both feel the same way about the show and co hosts, but can't help but wonder if women's behaviors' get hit harder than when a man does something similar. I would feel exactly the same if it were a man, but it's probably a moot point b/c I don't think many men would pout and take a couple of extra days (I understand she had vacation plans for Friday-Monday) out of work when given disappointing and hurtful news. That's not reality in corporate America, and it certainly doesn't help women. As far as your previous comment, I don't dislike her or like him. I've probably seen their show 5 or less times ever. I'm looking at it from a business/corporate standpoint, which the network that made this decision certainly is! I agree with KAS, we didn't find out for three days that one of our co-workers wasn't coming back to work. She was the assistant and the person we were all supposed to go to with any daily issues or questions. She went home Friday night like normal. We thought she was out sick and three days later we were just told she wasn't with the company any longer. Businesses don't owe other employees information on each other. Job change announcements are rarely shared with individuals no matter how important we think we are or who we are. Unless we are personal friends with someone, we find out as a group after it's all done. Even with friends they are very careful who they share it with. If Michael thought Kelly would say something then of course he isn't going to tell her either.
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Post by Deleted on Apr 26, 2016 20:25:00 GMT
This isn't some office in corporate America....this is a high profile television morning show....BIG difference.
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Post by cakediva on Apr 26, 2016 20:25:43 GMT
I honestly didn't know the show was still broadcast nationwide. I didn't notice when it was moved to FOX. That must be your local affiliate. It is still on ABC in the NYC and Philly markets. The show is still owned by ABC/Disney. I would not have been surprised if a man did the same thing and took a day off to gather his thoughts/calm down/whatever. She only took a single extra day off. The other days were previously scheduled. She was blindsided. She used the word respect in her monologue. This was handled with absolutely no respect towards her. I would dare say this was handled in an unprofessional manner, with her learning from her co-host that he was leaving just moments before it was announced to the public. If the executives had handled this appropriately, there would have been a meeting before the public announcement and not minutes before. I don't watch often - I actually had to google to see what all the fuss was about. I'm with Melissa here - she was told just minutes before Michael announced on air he was leaving. They did the same thing to her when Regis left, according to the article I read. I'm sorry - but if my name was on the show, and my cohost of over 4 years (or 10 years in the case of Regis) is leaving, and my bosses only see fit to tell me just minutes before it is announced live on air? I'd be pissed too. Talk about lack of respect!
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Post by compeateropeator on Apr 26, 2016 22:05:02 GMT
So basically she had her temper tantrum and got away with it. Nice to know the diva is strong in her. All I heard in her little message was "me me me me me me, I don't really mean what I'm saying, I was the one that was wronged, me me me me me me, everyone must bow to me, me me me me, how dare he leave for another gig what can be better than being with me me me me me, I'm just going to stamp my feet and make my opinion known, me me me me me, give me what I want dammit and now that I got it, I'm going to go back to my nice girl persona and make everyone think I really am a team player when it's obvious I'm not. Look at me me me me. I'm the most important person on the show and MY show has to be a priority to the network. It's inconceivable that anyone would think I'm anything less than the most important person on the network. Now where's my broom to rugsweep all this." Yeah, not buying it. She's a diva and she realised that her temper tantrum didn't get what she wanted. Now she's back with her tail between her legs. Cancel the diva and the show. They can do better. I am going to disagree with this. I had no doubt she would be back and I don't think it is with her tail between her legs. Frankly she was upset and instead of saying something inappropriate or having a bad and uncomfortable show she took time off. How many times have you heard step away from the situation when things become heated. I think it was much more professional to take time off and regroup. It was something that very much effected/affected her job and I think she had reason to be upset. It is also a lot different when your job is to entertain and interact on live tv than if it is just to coexist with someone in an office space. How may times have you known people to take a sick day or a personal health day when there was crap going on at work. Well try doing it live in front of cameras. Because of non substantiated news stories where some anonymous person reports she is doing this or saying this people think they know what is going on. Could she be the biggest bitch in real life? Maybe but I don't see it so I can't comment on it. But I do think she is very good at her job and I enjoy watching her. You may love her or hate her but I think she has proved that she does have a work ethic and does try to be professional. Everyone has there own opinion and mine is that she did what she had to do for herself (which she should be able to without judgement) and then came back and sucked it up and continued on with her job and tried to entertain people. She is the first to admit it is a talk show, they are not curing cancer here.
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Post by *KAS* on Apr 26, 2016 22:15:23 GMT
I have watched the show for years and did not see it this way at all. She took a day off and then went on her 20th anniversary weekend with her husband. She was hurt that she was told minutes before the public. I would have been too. She has taken one sick day in 16 years. I think she earned that day off to regroup. She said she was happy to have had the time to think through it. Her name is on the show and she does carry the show. I do love Michael and am sad to see him go, but Kelly is professional and upbeat and covers for Michael a lot. I thought it was interesting though that on today's show, the guest was talking about how long it took to put on the tattoos and Michael asked the question that the guest just answered. It happens at least once a week and Kelly covers for him. Today she did not. I think that people that don't like her feel she threw a tantrum and the people that do like her understand why she took a day off. She is in the public eye and it was important that she not throw a tantrum. I do hope the next cohost fills Michaels shoes and I wish them both well. I see it this way also.....hate Kelly Ripa all you want, call her names, don't watch her show, wish her ill will, but I'd be willing to bet that most of you belly aching about her "tantrum" wouldn't have taken it in the shorts when your boss of 25 years thought it would be SO cool to announce that your co-host is leaving the show without giving you a heads up.....yea, I'm sure all of you would have been pleased as punch at that. There's a difference between pleased about the way things were handled by corporate management and not showing up to see the audience that was there in large part b/c of you to see your live TV show. I'm sure there were many, many people that waited for however long to get tickets to see Kelly Ripa. She was mad at her bosses, but she took it out on her audience. That's why I think it was immature. Handle it behind closed doors.
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Post by *KAS* on Apr 26, 2016 22:21:36 GMT
This isn't some office in corporate America....this is a high profile television morning show....BIG difference. Umm, no, not different. Kelly and Michael is syndicated by ABC. As is GMA where Michael is going. They are a part of the "Disney ABC Television Group". It is VERY much run by a corporate office, and this was a business decision. She wasn't told 20 minutes before she went on TV. She was told after the show on Tuesday, shortly before it became public. No doubt ABC should have given her more notice before it became public, but if I were to guess with my limited knowledge of the industry, they had no intention of it coming out that soon publicly - but somebody leaked it and they got a short heads up, so they had to scramble to tell her before it was going to come out. They won't say that publicly of course, but I'd bet that to be the case.
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Post by christine58 on Apr 26, 2016 22:27:59 GMT
I'm glad she faced it and can move on now and hopefully get a new guest host that she really loves. Where was it said that they don't like each other??
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Post by disneypal on Apr 26, 2016 22:33:52 GMT
I'm glad she faced it and can move on now and hopefully get a new co-host that she really loves. Where was it said that they don't like each other?? Nowhere - as far as I know she and Michael do like each other. I didn't mean to imply otherwise - I just meant that I hope whoever her new co-host is, that she loves working with him.
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Post by compeateropeator on Apr 26, 2016 22:37:08 GMT
I see it this way also.....hate Kelly Ripa all you want, call her names, don't watch her show, wish her ill will, but I'd be willing to bet that most of you belly aching about her "tantrum" wouldn't have taken it in the shorts when your boss of 25 years thought it would be SO cool to announce that your co-host is leaving the show without giving you a heads up.....yea, I'm sure all of you would have been pleased as punch at that. There's a difference between pleased about the way things were handled by corporate management and not showing up to see the audience that was there in large part b/c of you to see your live TV showt. I'm sure there were many, many people that waited for however long to get tickets to see Kelly Ripa. She was mad at her bosses, but she took it out on her audience. That's why I think it was immature. Handle it behind closed doors. You are correct in that there might have been 235 people who paid nothing for tickets that were very upset with her for not showing up. But that is life. I/you would either get over it or hate her - that is my/your right. Just as I could get over (or not) a concert being canceled. Or paying 60.00 to see a show where the person wasn't feeling it so decided a 45 minute show would suffice. I think it was much more prudent to risk alienating those 235 people than to have a live show that does more damage by bringing all the drama to live TV.
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Post by gmcwife1 on Apr 26, 2016 22:39:32 GMT
This isn't some office in corporate America....this is a high profile television morning show....BIG difference. Umm, no, not different. Kelly and Michael is syndicated by ABC. As is GMA where Michael is going. They are a part of the "Disney ABC Television Group". It is VERY much run by a corporate office, and this was a business decision. She wasn't told 20 minutes before she went on TV. She was told after the show on Tuesday, shortly before it became public. No doubt ABC should have given her more notice before it became public, but if I were to guess with my limited knowledge of the industry, they had no intention of it coming out that soon publicly - but somebody leaked it and they got a short heads up, so they had to scramble to tell her before it was going to come out. They won't say that publicly of course, but I'd bet that to be the case. Oh KAS what do you know, you only work in a similar type of corporate environment <---- yes, sarcasm
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Post by 950nancy on Apr 26, 2016 22:41:31 GMT
I'm glad she faced it and can move on now and hopefully get a new guest host that she really loves. Where was it said that they don't like each other?? There have been a lot of "sources" discussing this. I guess to me most of it sounded like other television personalities trying to make something out of something quite different. The one great thing about Kelly is that you just don't hear her make comments about other shows in and outs. On television, she really doesn't gossip about other people and has the nicest things to say about everyone on screen. Other morning talk shows aren't quite as kind as Kelly has always been. Too bad she didn't receive the same treatment. I think Kelly's point was always about her deserving respect for what she does. She got the shaft from her bosses, and I would have stood up for myself (and have many times) in my job. It wasn't pouting or being a diva; it was saying I deserve better than this. I think women (and men) should be able to do this.
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Post by melissa on Apr 26, 2016 23:19:56 GMT
Even if it had been leaked, from what has been reported, Michael was the one telling her and not the appropriate executives. Even if it had been leaked, there was no need to rush to a formal announcement. Rumors could have swirled, as they do with so many things, true or not.
I would have been seething and I do not know if I would have had the wherewithal to cancel the following days appearance to avoid saying something I might later regret.
As far as disappointing the audience, when you get tickets to these shows, you have no idea if the normal hosts will be there or not unless it is a single person show like Rachael Ray and in that case, the taping is simply cancelled and you are out of luck unless they happen to have room in a taping on another day and you are free.
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Post by Deleted on Apr 26, 2016 23:21:50 GMT
Being in HR/corporate world, I have to wonder like KAS. I do agree that it was either (1) they got gobsmacked by the information being leaked and rushed to tell her as soon as they NEEDED to or (2) they truly don't have enough trust/respect/position/authority/etc for her to include her in the executive boardroom for decisions . Since this is the 2nd time (someone above posted the same thing when Regis left, I have to think #2 honestly).
I do wonder why Michael didn't tell her but he could have had a non-disclosure clause on the move/transfer. But even then I would think that they would have a closer relationship and this makes me suspect they don't. Because once you tell one person, it gets beyond that mightly quickly. And it was interesting to see Kathy Lee's response. I think no matter where you stand that Kelly's response(s) haven't helped her much -- whether that was the sick day or whether that was her "speech".
Honestly I stopped watching when Kathy Lee left because I"ve never been able to watch Kelly. She reminds me way too much of my SIL.
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Post by *KAS* on Apr 26, 2016 23:23:29 GMT
There's a difference between pleased about the way things were handled by corporate management and not showing up to see the audience that was there in large part b/c of you to see your live TV showt. I'm sure there were many, many people that waited for however long to get tickets to see Kelly Ripa. She was mad at her bosses, but she took it out on her audience. That's why I think it was immature. Handle it behind closed doors. You are correct in that there might have been 235 people who paid nothing for tickets that were very upset with her for not showing up. But that is life. I/you would either get over it or hate her - that is my/your right. Just as I could get over (or not) a concert being canceled. Or paying 60.00 to see a show where the person wasn't feeling it so decided a 45 minute show would suffice. I think it was much more prudent to risk alienating those 235 people than to have a live show that does more damage by bringing all the drama to live TV. Great, that's the beauty of America. We all get to have an opinion. I respect yours. I read somewhere that she's paid $36,000 per episode. For that kind of change, I'd go home mad, have a glass of wine or two, bitch to my husband, then gather my thoughts, email my bosses for a meeting the next day, and then write down proper words of how I would wish my coworker well the next day with a smile on my face. And then handle it behind closed doors like an adult. She's been on the show for 15 years, and she's a former actress. So act. Suck it up for 2 days, go on your vacation, turn off your phone and come back the next week relaxed and refreshed!
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Post by mallie on Apr 26, 2016 23:32:11 GMT
I don't think the WYse was told had sad anything to do with her. The same week, stana katic and another actress on. Castle were let go and at least the other supporting actors on the show said they found out about it via the news. So seems like it's Disney's sop.
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Post by compeateropeator on Apr 26, 2016 23:36:42 GMT
You are correct in that there might have been 235 people who paid nothing for tickets that were very upset with her for not showing up. But that is life. I/you would either get over it or hate her - that is my/your right. Just as I could get over (or not) a concert being canceled. Or paying 60.00 to see a show where the person wasn't feeling it so decided a 45 minute show would suffice. I think it was much more prudent to risk alienating those 235 people than to have a live show that does more damage by bringing all the drama to live TV. Great, that's the beauty of America. We all get to have an opinion. I respect yours. I read somewhere that she's paid $36,000 per episode. For that kind of change, I'd go home mad, have a glass of wine or two, bitch to my husband, then gather my thoughts, email my bosses for a meeting the next day, and then write down proper words of how I would wish my coworker well the next day with a smile on my face. And then handle it behind closed doors like an adult. She's been on the show for 15 years, and she's a former actress. So act. Suck it up for 2 days, go on your vacation, turn off your phone and come back the next week relaxed and refreshed! I agree that is the beauty of America...that we all get to have our opinion and get to freely express it. I respect yours also. ETA. Sorry hit enter early. Again I would agree if it was a scripted sitcom or movie. But in my opinion live host interaction can be awkward as it is, so just putting on a smile and continuing on like nothing happened isn't so easy to gloss over.
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Post by ahiller on Apr 27, 2016 1:03:26 GMT
So basically she had her temper tantrum and got away with it. Nice to know the diva is strong in her. All I heard in her little message was "me me me me me me, I don't really mean what I'm saying, I was the one that was wronged, me me me me me me, everyone must bow to me, me me me me, how dare he leave for another gig what can be better than being with me me me me me, I'm just going to stamp my feet and make my opinion known, me me me me me, give me what I want dammit and now that I got it, I'm going to go back to my nice girl persona and make everyone think I really am a team player when it's obvious I'm not. Look at me me me me. I'm the most important person on the show and MY show has to be a priority to the network. It's inconceivable that anyone would think I'm anything less than the most important person on the network. Now where's my broom to rugsweep all this." Yeah, not buying it. She's a diva and she realised that her temper tantrum didn't get what she wanted. Now she's back with her tail between her legs. Cancel the diva and the show. They can do better. ITA. There are people in this country with real, honest problems. Finding out that the co-host of your show, where you make tens of millions of dollars, is leaving isn't even close to one of them. I have zero sympathy for her.
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Post by kimpossible on Apr 27, 2016 1:03:43 GMT
Perhaps they were trying to match or beat the offer he got and it went down to the wire?
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Post by Deleted on Apr 27, 2016 2:17:08 GMT
Umm, no, not different. Kelly and Michael is syndicated by ABC. As is GMA where Michael is going. They are a part of the "Disney ABC Television Group". It is VERY much run by a corporate office, and this was a business decision. She wasn't told 20 minutes before she went on TV. She was told after the show on Tuesday, shortly before it became public. No doubt ABC should have given her more notice before it became public, but if I were to guess with my limited knowledge of the industry, they had no intention of it coming out that soon publicly - but somebody leaked it and they got a short heads up, so they had to scramble to tell her before it was going to come out. They won't say that publicly of course, but I'd bet that to be the case. Oh KAS what do you know, you only work in a similar type of corporate environment <---- yes, sarcasm Oh gee...and I only worked in one for 30 years before I retired. <---yes, sarcasm
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Post by Really Red on Apr 27, 2016 3:08:17 GMT
I almost wonder if she did it for ratings. I wouldn't be surprised.
I like Kelly. I don't love (or hate) Michael. I think she did a stellar job of talking today. It must have been very difficult and she really did the absolute best she could.
I don't think it's diva to take a couple days off. I've been blindsided once or twice at work and while I didn't take a day off, I should have. It's a good idea to regroup and find your priorities. It was not right what they did and she is right to call them on it. Just because she is paid a fortune doesn't mean she doesn't have feelings.
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Post by 950nancy on Apr 27, 2016 3:46:35 GMT
Really, I just don't even "get it". What temper tantrum? What stomping of feet? The media (print and television) speculated so many things that made it seem like she really did them. I think if you are a regular watcher and see their dynamics, the whole thing seems pretty thoughtless on Disney's part. I think Kelly made it clear this morning that that was her beef. She's allowed to be human and take a day off to gather her thoughts, and I think it was a good idea on her part not to go in and say something she would regret. People take sick days off all of the time when they aren't really sick to deal with stressful things. She is human.
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Post by jovifan on Apr 29, 2016 17:56:18 GMT
My take on it, is the first day she came back she acted her way through the show. Her acting skills were in full force. Since, its kind of painful to watch. Ackwardness, they barely look at each other. I heard at lunch she kind of took a dig at him because he is divorced. Its just weird. She needs to go on vacation until he is gone. Its hard to watch.
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