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Post by myshelly on Apr 30, 2016 2:15:20 GMT
It's what the law is in my state - that you can kill to protect your property. But in any case I also disagree with you. If someone breaks into your house while you are home that IS a threat to your life. Not always. Then I guess we disagree on that.
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Happycat
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Post by Happycat on Apr 30, 2016 2:23:28 GMT
I hope I'm never faced with this situation. I have a baseball bat, a golf putter and a cat. My money would be on the cat.
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Post by gar on Apr 30, 2016 8:19:37 GMT
Grab one of your assault rifles, scoot the kids out the way and shoot him through the door! What are you waiting for?! The non-American peas must be appalled. I'm American and I'm appalled. I'm honestly not sure what to think....I guess I'm still shocked by those whose automatic thought is to shoot and kill a stranger as the first course of action, sad that a society has to operate like that, disbelief that when it actually came to it they could just bang! kill someone who may or may not intend harm, shock that it seems to be ok that theft/breaking and entering warrants death even though grabbing some cash may have been their only intention - certainly very wrong but not worthy of death in my book.....and knowing that this thought will prompt the response "but I'm not going to wait and find out what his plans were." So in the end this is just another thread that highlights one of the huge differences in the way we live. Luckily I live in an area where break-ins are very rare, but even if it happened the chances of them wanting to harm the occupants rather than steal stuff is low, and the chances of them carrying a gun are remote....so what do I know?
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Post by katiejane on Apr 30, 2016 9:49:06 GMT
Grab one of your assault rifles, scoot the kids out the way and shoot him through the door! What are you waiting for?! The non-American peas must be appalled. I'm American and I'm appalled. I'm honestly not sure what to think....I guess I'm still shocked by those whose automatic thought is to shoot and kill a stranger as the first course of action, sad that a society has to operate like that, disbelief that when it actually came to it they could just bang! kill someone who may or may not intend harm, shock that it seems to be ok that theft/breaking and entering warrants death even though grabbing some cash may have been their only intention - certainly very wrong but not worthy of death in my book.....and knowing that this thought will prompt the response "but I'm not going to wait and find out what his plans were." So in the end this is just another thread that highlights one of the huge differences in the way we live. Luckily I live in an area where break-ins are very rare, but even if it happened the chances of them wanting to harm the occupants rather than steal stuff is low, and the chances of them carrying a gun are remote....so what do I know? Like you gar2 I am shocked. The question was raised about someone trying to open the door. And in the original case it was an error. How the hell that warrants a 'shoot to kill response, ask questions later' is beyond me. Like I said before when it happened to me they both were determined to get in my house as they thought they had a right to be there. At no point did I think "Gosh, I wish I had a weapon, my life is in deadly danger'. Yes I thought "this could get a bit sticky tricky, I might need to call the police" and I deadbolted the door. While shouting at them through the door. And did have to call them and did feel shaken up. But to jump to being justified to killing someone......no words.
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M in Carolina
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Post by M in Carolina on Apr 30, 2016 10:52:54 GMT
I don't think that just because someone enters your house you should kill them. I do think that it could be very dangerous for someone to enter your home when you're there. Woman beaten in front of baby by home intruder A home invasion can happen very quickly. Bang, through the screen or glass door--right on top of you. You might not get a chance to even call 911. Even 3 minutes is an extremely long time if someone is beating you up. This happened to a pea. I wouldn't shoot someone because they broke into my house. I would use my handgun as a warning for them to back off--it's a great equalizer between a small woman and a huge guy or guys. I also have an upstairs. If someone stayed downstairs, I wouldn't shoot them. If they came upstairs or in my bedroom (if I had one story) despite my warnings, all bets are off. Shooting someone outside is reckless. Not all states allow this. I just saw on the news this week that a guy that was shot in someone's garage is suing the homeowner--who was found guilty of recklessness since the guy was in the garage and fleeing. This also happened years ago in Durham. My uncle was the prosecutor on the case. One of the young men that broke into his house was fleeing and was shot in the back yard. The homeowner drug him into the garage, but the police noticed the ejected casings outside the garage. Like in the video that I showed, if you're home when someone breaks in, they can get violent. They don't want witnesses, and some guys can get really violent when they have nothing to lose because they've already gone to prison twice and know that they'll go back for a long time if caught. For peas in other countries, do y'all have a lot of violent break ins? We do. Most of the thugs are armed. Gun control laws don't really matter to someone who's going to steal people's stuff and rape women--many times old women.
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Post by flgirlatheart on Apr 30, 2016 11:08:14 GMT
I was home alone one morning when a man came to our front door and messed with the doorknob. I called 911 and the deputy was there in a matter of minutes. Turned out to be a funny/ridiculous story though. The dispatch operator told me the deputy was at the door and it was safe for me to open it. When I did he was standing there chuckling holding one of those door hanger flyers and said "I think I know what happened." I was embarrassed but he assured me they would rather we call than not ?. He did find the guy and make him leave the neighborhood since we are a no soliciting community.
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Post by Merge on Apr 30, 2016 12:15:45 GMT
What would I do? Go out the back door with my kids and pets, get far away and call 911. I don't own anything that is worth killing someone over.
But Texas homeowners have been repeatedly acquitted (or have had charges dropped or never brought) for shooting and killing trespassers on their property and their neighbors' property who are actively fleeing. Because that's just how we roll here. Recklessness and endangering others is perfectly OK as long as you're exercising your 2nd amendment rights in the process.
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Dani-Mani
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Post by Dani-Mani on Apr 30, 2016 12:23:08 GMT
I'd call 911 and I'm somewhat surprised by the people who wouldn't. If he doesn't get into your house, he will keep moving until he gets into someone's house. Why put my neighbors at risk like that?
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raindancer
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Post by raindancer on Apr 30, 2016 16:59:29 GMT
Then I guess we disagree on that. Someone coming into your home is not always a threat to your life. It's not something to agree on, it's a simple fact. Most people are coming to steal stuff. Not murder you.
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Post by myshelly on Apr 30, 2016 17:09:35 GMT
Then I guess we disagree on that. Someone coming into your home is not always a threat to your life. It's not something to agree on, it's a simple fact. Most people are coming to steal stuff. Not murder you. If someone comes into your home while you're there there is going to be some type of confrontation. That is a threat to your life. A threat does not mean they came in with the intention of murder.
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