Gennifer
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Post by Gennifer on Apr 30, 2016 23:53:08 GMT
Depending on the area you live in, OP's post is not at all unusual. In my town, the only time cars are parked on the street is for parties. And, to allow for snow removal, cars can actually be ticketed for parking on the street.
Not that that stops the guy who lives across the street from me. Single guy, 4 car garage, and a 40' circular driveway, but he still parks on the street directly behind my driveway.
I've had company mention that it made them nervous, so I know it's not just me. He's such a nice guy, and my "jokes" about hitting his vehicle don't seem to be working, so I just live with it. I feel you, though.
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Post by sunraynnc on Apr 30, 2016 23:58:43 GMT
You asked nicely and they haven't responded. Unless there is a legal imperative, you need to park on the street or learn to drive the vehicle.
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Post by monklady123 on May 1, 2016 0:14:25 GMT
I don't entirely understand either. People here park all over the street even if they have a driveway. Most of the time the driveway might be long enough for one car, maybe two. Ours can fit both cars if we really squeeze up, but we don't bother. We just park dh's car in the street. The people directly across from us park both cars in front of their house which happens to be directly across the street from our driveway. But I don't understand the problem of backing out of the driveway, even if you might have to maneuver a bit. If dh forgets and parks too close to our driveway I might have to back up then go forward then back up again then go forward in order to get out. I figure that's just life in the city.
On the other hand, if there are no other cars on the street and the OP asked these neighbors if they could move a bit then you'd think they could just move up or back a bit. Especially with no other cars around how would it hurt them to just move some? They'd still be in front of their house, just up a few feet.
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Post by salem on May 1, 2016 0:15:37 GMT
I don't dispute that the OP needs to be able to control the vehicle she's driving, and the neighbors do have a right to park in front of their house, BUT sometimes when a neighbor asks you not to do something as small as not park in a certain 6 foot area because it sits in her blind spot directly across from her drive and there's a chance that damage to their vehicle could happen if she pulls out a little too far, you control your right to be a complete ASSHOLE and MOVE your fucking car another few feet. That's all. Just don't park in that very tiny area. There's a whole side of the street to park on, and it's really not a common problem on her street. This is your neighbor who is asking you nicely. I would think they would be concerned about their car being damaged.
I have asshole neighbors that moved in recently. They have noisy tow trucks that aren't supposed to be there, a HUGE rottie they have tied with a flimsy leash to their front porch and he launches at my car each time I pull out of the driveway, two pit bulls that have been caught running free around the neighborhood, they have junk strewn all over the yard and driveway and they are fucking noisy. All. The. Time. with no regard to anyone else that lives around them. Those are the kind of neighbors that you say screw you to when they ask for something. Not a small request to just move your car a few feet over in a wide open space.
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Post by crazy4scraps on May 1, 2016 0:25:46 GMT
I'm sorry, but I'm still not getting it. Half the parking spaces here are across from someone's driveway and the other half are right in front in someone's house. Of course, we don't have snow, either. =shrug= Okay, I'll go away now. I'm with you Lucy. I don't follow. If someone is parking on the street how are they not supposed to be directly across from another person's driveway? It's never been an issue here. But I live near you so maybe this is a regional thing. Our streets are wide and we don't get snow. Most of the driveways where we used to live are directly across the street from each other, so it's not an issue usually because people aren't going to park in the street blocking their own driveway. Our driveway was across from a solid curb because we moved it from one side of our house (where we only had about 8' between the side of our house and the property line) to the other side of the house where we had more room and ultimately built our garage.
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Post by anxiousmom on May 1, 2016 0:40:33 GMT
I guess part of the issue is that the road is in a residential area and is only wide enough for two cars. If there is someone parked in the street, the width left is approximately the width of an average car so if someone is parked on the street and someone is coming from the opposite direction, one care will have to wait for the other to pass prior to being able to go around the parked car. It is also a brick street (not asphalt.) There isn't a lot of room to work with.
And it isn't something that is normally done here, so I admit that I naively didn't realize that it was common in so many other areas.
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anaterra
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Post by anaterra on May 1, 2016 1:03:28 GMT
We live on an old residential street... definitely to narrow for 2 cars to pass each other... because we all have single drive ways with a carport... so everyone parks in the street.. I have had to replace a tail light because the teen across the street busted it when he was pulling out... it sucks but we have no other places to park...
I think you need to suck it up.. you've already asked them so much that they are avoiding you... not a good sign.. lol
Maybe the guy has problems backing out n his parents have him park in the street until he has more experience... who knows.. good luck
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Post by melanell on May 1, 2016 1:04:12 GMT
Ugh, that's frustrating. It's no fun to have to be concerned about not hitting a parked car every time you go in and out of your driveway. The people across the street from my parents had a very steep driveway and visitors used to park across from our driveway and walk up the neighbor's steps to reach their house. My dad asked thema few times if they could ask guests to park just a little bit further up or down, but I don't think that happened. One day someone visiting my brother hit the car parked across the street. The 2 people worked it out, and after that we saw far less cars park there. So the neighbors must have finally started mentioning to their guests that it wasn't the safest option.
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Post by kelly8875 on May 1, 2016 1:07:37 GMT
Do you have at least the same amount of room to back out of your driveway as you do in a parking lot space? If so, the neighbors aren't doing anything wrong. If you have less room, then you can complain IMO.
I think it's more of an unspoken rule that as long as they park in front of their own house, on their side of the street, they're fine. But as long as there aren't no parking signs up, and it's legal in your city, they aren't doing anything wrong.
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Post by refugeepea on May 1, 2016 1:51:43 GMT
I'm sorry, but I'm still not getting it. Half the parking spaces here are across from someone's driveway and the other half are right in front in someone's house. Of course, we don't have snow, either. =shrug= Okay, I'll go away now. I can see how it would be annoying. Our street is a bit narrower than most where I live. If there is a car parked across the street directly behind my driveway, it is hard to get out without doing some 3 point turn about maneuvering. Technically no one is supposed to park there (it's painted red), but there are t-ball fields and parking gets crazy in the summer. So vehicles park there and along both sides of my house and getting out is hard! So, if there's room to move the car up or down the street a little, I think it would be nice to do so. I know it's not required. ETA: We get the same issue of it being very difficult for 2 cars to drive on the same road if parked cars aren't parked very close to the curb. Almost up on the sidewalk for bigger cars. It's impossible in one spot if they park in the red area.
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Post by MsChiff on May 1, 2016 2:02:48 GMT
If you really want them to stop parking there, park your car directly in front of theirs, close enough that they have to back up to get out. They likely will get the message after a few days. If they ask why you're parking there, be honest and say you'd rather park in your driveway but since they choose to park directly across from it, you're afraid you might accidentally hit their car and park in the street so you don't.
If not, you can try parking directly across from their driveway. Other than that, you likely have to accept things as they are.
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Post by Deleted on May 1, 2016 2:11:43 GMT
In my neighborhood, you can only park on one side of the street. Usually no one parks there unless they are visiting or there's a party. The times I have parked in neighborhoods, the only thing I look at is the side I am parking on, to make sure I am not in the middle of a place two cars could fit, that I am not too far from the curb, or that I'm not partly into someone's driveway or too close to it.
I have literally never, ever looked to the left to see if I am across from someone's driveway. That has never occurred to me, nor have I ever experienced it to be an issue across from my own driveway.
I'm with lucyg, This situation is confusing to me. I can't imagine asking someone legally parked in a public spot to not be there - they'd just be moving up or down across from someone else's driveway, so, uh....what? I missing something I think.
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Post by refugeepea on May 1, 2016 2:31:39 GMT
they'd just be moving up or down across from someone else's driveway, so, uh....what? I missing something I think. There's spaces between driveways. So rather than parking directly behind someone's driveway, they move their car up a few feet.
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Post by Deleted on May 1, 2016 2:41:26 GMT
they'd just be moving up or down across from someone else's driveway, so, uh....what? I missing something I think. There's spaces between driveways. So rather than parking directly behind someone's driveway, they move their car up a few feet. I just went out and looked at the street here, which again is a little different because parking is legal on only one side. If you purposely park so as not to be across from a driveway, almost every time you'd be splitting a spot in the middle where two cars could park.
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Post by refugeepea on May 1, 2016 2:43:34 GMT
There's spaces between driveways. So rather than parking directly behind someone's driveway, they move their car up a few feet. I just went out and looked at the street here, which again is a little different because parking is legal on only one side. If you purposely park so as not to be across from a driveway, almost every time you'd be splitting a spot in the middle where two cars could park. I guess homes are spaced out a bit more in my neighborhood. That's probably the difference.
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Post by MsChiff on May 1, 2016 2:45:25 GMT
There's spaces between driveways. So rather than parking directly behind someone's driveway, they move their car up a few feet. I just went out and looked at the street here, which again is a little different because parking is legal on only one side. If you purposely park so as not to be across from a driveway, almost every time you'd be splitting a spot in the middle where two cars could park. Splitting a spot in the middle doesn't matter when you're on a street where only one or two cars are parked in the entire block.
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Post by anxiousmom on May 1, 2016 2:47:14 GMT
I just went out and looked at the street here, which again is a little different because parking is legal on only one side. If you purposely park so as not to be across from a driveway, almost every time you'd be splitting a spot in the middle where two cars could park. I guess homes are spaced out a bit more in my neighborhood. That's probably the difference. Also, there are no designated parking places in my neighborhood. There is a road that is just about wide enough for two cars (it is a brick road) and there wouldn't be a concern one bit about splitting a spot where two cars could park. There isn't even a line painted down the middle, just old brick pavers.
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Post by freecharlie on May 1, 2016 15:43:17 GMT
Check with your city to see if there are any codes that address this issue. Some places have a 5' rule- no parking within 5' of a driveway. I think they are across the street directly behind the op driveway My across the street neighbors do this, I back out just like I would from a parking space and I thing the other lane in a parking lot is closer than across the street.
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Post by newfcathy on May 1, 2016 16:03:58 GMT
In my neighborhood, the street is not at all wide, if you park on either side people will have to swerve out around you, even if you park partway on the side walk. We only do it if we are moving cars around or having mulch dumped. One single spring day, we had parked a car on the street as had the neighbors on either side at one time or another. Each of the cars were hit or grazed by different drivers. A very unlucky day. We always tell guests to park in the driveway.
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Post by gsquaredmom on May 1, 2016 16:28:48 GMT
Op, can you back up your driveway so you leave nose first?
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Post by theshyone on May 1, 2016 18:23:11 GMT
If there is a place for them to park just by moving up a bit, I would ask them if they wouldn't mind doing thst. Maybe tell them that you have trouble backing out, and wouldn't want to hit them. They may not realize they are making it hard for you. Sometimes just asking nicely works! That's the thing. I *have* asked them nicely. Probably too nicely as they didn't take me seriously I think. Besides reminding them again...could you back into your own driveway?? Would make it easier to pull out. No way. I am not nearly proficient enough with the standard yet to do that. Trying to back in at this point would be asking for trouble. For all of us. If you can't drive it confidently and safely you shouldn't be driving it. You can park on the street too, and totally avoid the driveway issue. Really I can't imagine people not parking on a street. It just is beyond my scope of understanding. Even when there are huge snow windrows people park on the street beside them.
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Post by anxiousmom on May 1, 2016 18:41:23 GMT
. Really I can't imagine people not parking on a street. It just is beyond my scope of understanding. Even when there are huge snow windrows people park on the street beside them. It's funny, I never knew there were so many people who had street parking as a normal thing-outside of big city areas I guess. In most neighborhoods that I know of here, it just isn't something that is normally needed. As far as how much room there is, I just watched my son in VW Golf trying to back out of the driveway-he had to back up, pull forward a bit, back up again before he could get going. Just not a lot of room.
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Post by refugeepea on May 1, 2016 18:46:13 GMT
As far as how much room there is, I just watched my son in VW Golf trying to back out of the driveway-he had to back up, pull forward a bit, back up again before he could get going. Just not a lot of room. That is really tight!
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Post by anniefb on May 1, 2016 19:08:17 GMT
The only rules here are about parking across or too close to someone's driveway. Other than asking them if they can move slightly, I'm not sure there's much you can do.
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Post by Deleted on May 1, 2016 19:45:18 GMT
I guess part of the issue is that the road is in a residential area and is only wide enough for two cars. If there is someone parked in the street, the width left is approximately the width of an average car so if someone is parked on the street and someone is coming from the opposite direction, one care will have to wait for the other to pass prior to being able to go around the parked car. It is also a brick street (not asphalt.) There isn't a lot of room to work with. And it isn't something that is normally done here, so I admit that I naively didn't realize that it was common in so many other areas. I can't see what the problem is really. You should live over here,we do this everyday! I can come out of my driveway without going over to the other side of the road and our road it the same....only a two car width road. Seriously, the fact that this car is a manual transmission shouldn't make a difference to your steering. Is this car bigger than your own car?
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Post by anxiousmom on May 1, 2016 19:59:56 GMT
Seriously, the fact that this car is a manual transmission shouldn't make a difference to your steering. Is this car bigger than your own car? No, actually it is smaller (but no power steering.) I drive a Suburban and pretty much everything in the world is smaller. And frankly I am used to squeezing into smaller driving situations. But apparently I am old and don't do change well and having to drive a different car, some one parking in a new spot changing up the neighborhood norm and all has thrown me into a tizzy.
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Post by Deleted on May 1, 2016 20:07:31 GMT
Seriously, the fact that this car is a manual transmission shouldn't make a difference to your steering. Is this car bigger than your own car? No, actually it is smaller (but no power steering.) I drive a Suburban and pretty much everything in the world is smaller. And frankly I am used to squeezing into smaller driving situations. But apparently I am old and don't do change well and having to drive a different car, some one parking in a new spot changing up the neighborhood norm and all has thrown me into a tizzy. You'll have to come over here and get some practice ! I do have sympathy though, it is a little annoying when they do that.
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Post by BlueDiamond on May 1, 2016 20:14:57 GMT
Where I live, we have larger lots, so there is a whole lotta space to park in the street without being directly across from someone's driveway. Thank goodness, too! Because we have a trailer and a boat, and if someone parked directly across from our driveway, they'd get pounded if we tried pulling in or pulling out towing one of those!
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Post by Lexica on May 1, 2016 20:47:20 GMT
Brick streets? And to be so narrow that it is the width of 2 cars, one having to use the opposite side of the street to drive on if someone is parked on the side they are driving on? Where in the world do you live?
First, I love the idea of brick streets. So quaint! And no wonder parking on the street isn't common with it being the width it is.
Where I live, the streets are wide enough for people to park on both sides and still have plenty of room in the middle for 2 cars to pass each other comfortably driving down it. That is pretty much the rule for streets here. And directly across from my driveway is my neighbor's driveway, so I will never face your problem, but I can absolutely empathize with it!
I don't see anything wrong with asking someone not to park behind your drive, given all the rest of the information about that street. Yes, it is legal, but it isn't neighborly or nice, especially when they could simply move the car up or down a few feet to eliminate the problem. Could you maybe go over with a batch of homemade cookies and ask again? If they refuse, you have no choice but to live with it, but it can't hurt to try, right?
Sure, you could park the same way in front of their house, or maybe park where this person is parking so that they cannot do so, but that brings with it more issues of you having to walk further to get to your own house.
Too bad you can't buy an old worthless heap of a car to park in that spot yourself. Then if you hit it, oh well.
I wish there were an easier solution for you. I really feel for your issue.
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