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Post by ktdoesntscrap on Jun 3, 2016 3:06:49 GMT
I'd never heard of the religious baccalaureate. The English Baccalaureate is purely academic....you learn something every day:smile: What is a baccalaureate in England? Here it is a religious celebration in honor of graduation, usually from High School or University. We had one at my Catholic High School. I don't know what they will have at my daughter's high school they won't have the first graduation for two years.
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Post by MsKnit on Jun 3, 2016 5:06:36 GMT
There was one when I graduated (public school). I didn't attend.
Different state, the boy's school had one. I'm not trying to spell it because I will butcher it. He didn't attend his, either. Even though it was just last year, I can't remember where that was supposed to be held.
I think it's so overstepping bounds for a public school. The elementary school did something similar. However, someone made a fuss and the BOE put a stop to the children attending anything in the church. Oddly, it was just that particular elementary school that was effected.
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Post by gar on Jun 3, 2016 6:23:10 GMT
I'd never heard of the religious baccalaureate. The English Baccalaureate is purely academic....you learn something every day:smile: What is a baccalaureate in England? Here it is a religious celebration in honor of graduation, usually from High School or University. We had one at my Catholic High School. I don't know what they will have at my daughter's high school they won't have the first graduation for two years. I was wrong calling it the English baccalaureate, I meant the baccalaureate that I'm familiar with in England. Having googled I see that the word actually has different meanings between UK and the US. Here it's an academic qualification with no religious content or meaning. It's actually called the IB, international Baccalaureate and is a programme of across the board studies. This is it in a nutshell; The International Baccalaureate, or IB, is a challenging and well-rounded programme of education for 16-19-year-old students. It’s an internationally recognised course, followed by students around the world. Until recently in the UK it was only taught in a minority of independent schools, but is now an option in some state schools too. It’s currently on offer at 190 schools across the UK.
The IB course leads to a qualification called the IB Diploma, which is very well-respected by universities and is also an advantage if your child is hoping to study overseas.
The IB has a reputation for being demanding but very rewarding. It offers a broader programme of study than A levels, and encourages students to think independently, and to explore their creativity.
The IB will aim to teach your child to:
explore what it is to learn
ask challenging and thoughtful questions
develop a sense of identity and culture
develop the ability to communicate with people from different countries and cultures
There are three compulsory, core 'elements' to the IB. These are:
theory of knowledge (TOK): your child will learn about where knowledge comes from, how to analyse evidence and how to argue a point
creativity, action and service: your child will be encouraged to get involved in theatre or musical activities, sports and/or community service
extended essay: your child will be asked to investigate a topic of interest and to write a 4,000-word essay
In addition, your child will take six subjects – three at standard level, three at higher level. This gives more options than A levels when it comes to choosing a mix of subjects.
The six subjects are:
a first language (your child’s mother tongue)
a second language
experimental sciences (biology, chemistry, physics, design technology)
mathematics and computer science
the arts (visual, theatre and music)
individuals and society (history, psychology, geography)
Baccalaureate (UK source)
Pronunciation: /ˌbakəˈlɔːrɪət/ NOUN 1 An examination intended to qualify successful candidates for higher education. See also International Baccalaureate. 2 A university bachelor’s degree: 3 US - A religious service held at some educational institutions before commencement, including a farewell sermon to the graduating students. As I said, you learn something every day
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Post by wellway on Jun 3, 2016 7:18:07 GMT
as explained by gar I have only known it as an educational programme/exam.
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Post by Deleted on Jun 3, 2016 10:39:26 GMT
as explained by gar I have only known it as an educational programme/exam. and another one. The IB is damn hard to pass too, hence the reason it's more popular in the Private Independent schools in the UK who may have the cream of the crop as their pupils ( saying that tongue in cheek as I have no issue with private education). The EBacc diploma is slightly different. It's based on the core subjects at GCSE whereas the IB is on par with A Levels so it's a higher achievement academically.
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Post by peabay on Jun 3, 2016 10:39:47 GMT
Wow. No. People would go batshit crazy if they did. Large, northeastern public high school? So, incredibly no.
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Post by Gravity on Jun 3, 2016 10:59:42 GMT
No, thank goodness. FWIW, my dd just graduated from a large suburban Texas high school.
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Post by BoilerUp! on Jun 3, 2016 12:45:20 GMT
Just chiming in to say that I didn't even know what baccalaureate service was . . . I love google!
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Post by bigbundt on Jun 3, 2016 12:55:18 GMT
I have never heard of a baccalaureate service. My public high school (small town in Louisiana) did not have one which surprises me since it was not religiously adverse. The local baptist and Catholic churches were both very involved in the schools at the time and the Lord's prayer was said over the loud speaker every morning (I had French first period one year and after morning announcements we would again say the Lord's prayer in French). If anything was done it must have been done by each church for their own graduating members.
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Post by Deleted on Jun 3, 2016 13:01:53 GMT
The only schools that actually sponsor it are the religious ones. The public schools do not have a service. However, I know several students in the band with ds are members of the same church and I've seen a few posts on social media about their church holding a service just for their seniors this past Sunday. This weekend is graduation weekend for the public schools - two tomorrow, two on Sunday. The Christan school had theirs recently and the Catholic one was last week.
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Post by anxiousmom on Jun 3, 2016 13:04:47 GMT
As I said, the service was last night. It was sweet-the honors, high honors, and high honors with distinction kids got their cords, the senior chorus sang, there were speeches (and a couple of prayers-we were in a church after all) and from what I could tell, there were only a handful of kids not there. One of them I know-and his excuse for not coming was that he didn't have anything to wear (which is not TRUE-this kid is related to me and I happen to know for an absolute fact that not only does he have all kinds of appropriate clothing, he also could have borrowed something from us if he wanted-he just didn't want to go.)
I am finding it really interesting hearing how everyone does things differently.
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Post by mallie on Jun 3, 2016 13:18:17 GMT
Never heard of it. I'm from NY and have lived in the upper midwest for the last 20+ years.
The church we attended while the girls were at that age had a recognition of graduates during the services on graduation weekend. None of my girls chose to participate because they were not fans of how, once again, the kids who got the longest intro and biggest applause were always the athletes. As my oldest said, "It's amazing how even Jesus prefers male football players, isn't it?" (And the co-pastor was a woman who was quite feminist and very pro-gay rights. But when it comes to football, it's a while different story.)
I am a little agog that the honors students get their cords at a religious service. So if you're not religious or do/can not attend a religious service, you don't get your honor cords? Or do the honors students get other forms at recognition at the regular graduation service?
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Post by Deleted on Jun 3, 2016 13:24:53 GMT
Our public school (not in the south) has this at a church a couple evenings before graduation. For ours they have the kids dressed in their gowns (not caps) and parade in. They have a few prayers, speeches, the senior choir members sing, a slide show, and they parade out. Less than half the students attend (aprox 30).
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Post by anxiousmom on Jun 3, 2016 13:34:58 GMT
I am a little agog that the honors students get their cords at a religious service. So if you're not religious or do/can not attend a religious service, you don't get your honor cords? Or do the honors students get other forms at recognition at the regular graduation service? If they don't attend, they get their cords prior to the graduation service. They do recognize the honor students at the formal graduation ceremony-and are recognized by name in the program.
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Post by amom23 on Jun 3, 2016 15:14:25 GMT
No, individual churches do something to honor their graduates. This is how it works here too.
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Post by ktdoesntscrap on Jun 3, 2016 15:40:53 GMT
What is a baccalaureate in England? Here it is a religious celebration in honor of graduation, usually from High School or University. We had one at my Catholic High School. I don't know what they will have at my daughter's high school they won't have the first graduation for two years. I was wrong calling it the English baccalaureate, I meant the baccalaureate that I'm familiar with in England. Having googled I see that the word actually has different meanings between UK and the US. Here it's an academic qualification with no religious content or meaning. It's actually called the IB, international Baccalaureate and is a programme of across the board studies. This is it in a nutshell; The International Baccalaureate, or IB, is a challenging and well-rounded programme of education for 16-19-year-old students. It’s an internationally recognised course, followed by students around the world. Until recently in the UK it was only taught in a minority of independent schools, but is now an option in some state schools too. It’s currently on offer at 190 schools across the UK.
The IB course leads to a qualification called the IB Diploma, which is very well-respected by universities and is also an advantage if your child is hoping to study overseas.
The IB has a reputation for being demanding but very rewarding. It offers a broader programme of study than A levels, and encourages students to think independently, and to explore their creativity.
The IB will aim to teach your child to:
explore what it is to learn
ask challenging and thoughtful questions
develop a sense of identity and culture
develop the ability to communicate with people from different countries and cultures
There are three compulsory, core 'elements' to the IB. These are:
theory of knowledge (TOK): your child will learn about where knowledge comes from, how to analyse evidence and how to argue a point
creativity, action and service: your child will be encouraged to get involved in theatre or musical activities, sports and/or community service
extended essay: your child will be asked to investigate a topic of interest and to write a 4,000-word essay
In addition, your child will take six subjects – three at standard level, three at higher level. This gives more options than A levels when it comes to choosing a mix of subjects.
The six subjects are:
a first language (your child’s mother tongue)
a second language
experimental sciences (biology, chemistry, physics, design technology)
mathematics and computer science
the arts (visual, theatre and music)
individuals and society (history, psychology, geography)
Baccalaureate (UK source)
Pronunciation: /ˌbakəˈlɔːrɪət/ NOUN 1 An examination intended to qualify successful candidates for higher education. See also International Baccalaureate. 2 A university bachelor’s degree: 3 US - A religious service held at some educational institutions before commencement, including a farewell sermon to the graduating students. As I said, you learn something every day Thanks we have International Baccalaureate here too. I love figuring out the differences.
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Post by gar on Jun 3, 2016 16:02:54 GMT
ktdoesntscrap - I did wonder if that was the case since it's international but decided to post the info anyway
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Post by Tamhugh on Jun 3, 2016 18:30:45 GMT
Wow. No. People would go batshit crazy if they did. Large, northeastern public high school? So, incredibly no. Our school is approximately 3000 kids, also a public high school in the Northeast. It is really the norm around here. I think that all of the schools have them.
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Post by pierkiss on Jun 3, 2016 19:40:58 GMT
My high school had one. It was done in our auditorium, and the school invited a religious person from all the local religions. That way there was something for every faith. Which was great if you are religious. It was not mandatory, and I really did not want to go, as I do not enjoy going to church. My mother made me because she is super religious. (She also made me go to our church's mass honoring the graduates). I absolutely hated that baccalaureate ceremony!! It was several hours long and so boring.
The school my children are at and will hopefully graduate from just does a graduation mass, as it is a catholic school. So basically the same as attending regular Sunday mass-1hr and tolerable.
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Post by lbp on Jun 3, 2016 20:51:48 GMT
Yes! It is combined with the Senior awards ceremony. Seniors are give their athletic awards, scholarships are announced, and then they start listing colleges that each senior is attending and the senior who is attending that college stands. It's really cool.
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Post by cmpeter on Jun 4, 2016 23:52:42 GMT
Ours has one. It's not held at or put on my the school. It's held at a church off nearby and does not replace graduation
Not sure what goes on or how many attend as we didn't attend when ds graduated.
I am just outside of Seattle.
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