freebird
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Post by freebird on Jun 3, 2016 0:20:33 GMT
... soldier. This is a few years old but I just saw it today. This is awesome. Why do people have to talk ALL THE TIME. Just shut up once in a while.
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NoWomanNoCry
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Post by NoWomanNoCry on Jun 3, 2016 0:29:20 GMT
Good for him! Silence can be golden sometimes.
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Post by grinningcat on Jun 3, 2016 0:35:21 GMT
Is this a rule that there is no talking in this spot? Not that I would prattle on, but I would likely say something to my travel companion as I observe the area/ceremony. We have a tomb of the unknown soldier in Ottawa but I have never heard of silence being a requirement in that location.
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Post by lurkingsince2001 on Jun 3, 2016 0:42:00 GMT
I can't imagine talking through that.
When we were there, I tripped and dropped my camera. The ceremony hadn't even started yet and you could've heard a pin drop and I got hateful looks. Apparently I was the only one there that had ever had a ill-timed klutzy moment.
Most of the noise we heard was from school tour groups. Those teens were running and jumping, playing hide and seek around markers, even getting a little frisky, no real supervision whatsoever. There was an actual funeral going on at the time and they still didn't settle. SMH
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Post by Deleted on Jun 3, 2016 0:48:47 GMT
Good for him! (Your thread title made me laugh a little, because my in-laws are Italian and that's what they say for money, "soldi")
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Post by bearmom on Jun 3, 2016 0:52:59 GMT
Is this a rule that there is no talking in this spot? Not that I would prattle on, but I would likely say something to my travel companion as I observe the area/ceremony. We have a tomb of the unknown soldier in Ottawa but I have never heard of silence being a requirement in that location. If I remember correctly, there is signage around the tomb requesting quiet around the tomb.
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Post by maryland on Jun 3, 2016 1:02:58 GMT
Good for him. They have signs up asking people to be quiet and respectful. My parents live near DC and my grandparents are buried there. My grandfather was killed in WWII when my mom was a baby. We visit Arlington in the summer when we visit my parents. Even my kids understand that they have to stop talking when we visit the Tomb of the Unknown Soldier.
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Post by marianne on Jun 3, 2016 1:10:37 GMT
I've watched it a couple of times and I just can't understand what he said... maybe its my ears, maybe lousy sound on my puter... would someone translate for me?
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Post by freebird on Jun 3, 2016 1:25:08 GMT
I've watched it a couple of times and I just can't understand what he said... maybe its my ears, maybe lousy sound on my puter... would someone translate for me? “It is requested that everyone maintain an atmosphere of silence and respect at all times!”
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Post by Deleted on Jun 3, 2016 1:34:52 GMT
Yep.
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Post by ellen on Jun 3, 2016 1:35:34 GMT
People do talk all the GD time. It drives me crazy. Good for him. I was there years ago with a 4-H group and they made it very clear to all of us beforehand that we were to be silent and respectful and we were.
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Post by alissa103 on Jun 3, 2016 1:36:43 GMT
I hissed at some RUDE people to be quiet when we were there a few years ago. DH also told a pre-teen to put his phone away. His parents were either oblivious or morons, not sure. We were shocked at the behavior of some people.
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Post by marianne on Jun 3, 2016 1:38:04 GMT
Thank you freebird!! And, good for him. It's a pretty somber and solemn area; too many people seem to forget what it represents.
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Post by refugeepea on Jun 3, 2016 1:42:34 GMT
I've watched it a couple of times and I just can't understand what he said... maybe its my ears, maybe lousy sound on my puter... would someone translate for me? “It is requested that everyone maintain an atmosphere of silence and respect at all times!” When I read the thread title, I thought, um no... that is not cool to use that language if you are THE guard at the tomb of the unknown soldier. The way he phrased it was fine.
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Post by Deleted on Jun 3, 2016 1:52:39 GMT
They do this A LOT. Very sad that we are losing our respect and manners as a country.
They will also request that men remove their hats. Wtf? Men today have to be told to remove their hats at this hallowed ceremony?
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Post by mom on Jun 3, 2016 1:58:41 GMT
Good for him! If people can't shut their trap I would rather they not go there.
Some times/places are sacred and respect needs to be given.
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Post by cadoodlebug on Jun 3, 2016 2:03:08 GMT
DS was chosen with 3 others in his 8th grade class to participate in the laying-of-the-wreath ceremony from their small school. They were given strict instructions to be solemn and respectful ~ and they were.
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Post by anniefb on Jun 3, 2016 6:36:24 GMT
Good for him! Silence can be golden sometimes. Definitely!
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Post by grinningcat on Jun 3, 2016 11:13:10 GMT
Is this a rule that there is no talking in this spot? Not that I would prattle on, but I would likely say something to my travel companion as I observe the area/ceremony. We have a tomb of the unknown soldier in Ottawa but I have never heard of silence being a requirement in that location. If I remember correctly, there is signage around the tomb requesting quiet around the tomb. Thank you. That is good to know. I think I need to go do some research to find out the history behind this particular area and the strict rules.
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Post by grinningcat on Jun 3, 2016 11:14:47 GMT
They do this A LOT. Very sad that we are losing our respect and manners as a country. They will also request that men remove their hats. Wtf? Men today have to be told to remove their hats at this hallowed ceremony? Generally, the etiquette for outdoor hat wear is that they do not need to be removed with the exception of a few, rare instances. I would wager with fewer people wearing hats these days that the knowledge would not be well known.
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Post by mallie on Jun 3, 2016 12:06:48 GMT
When we were at the American Cemetery in Normandy, a bus full of French schoolkids pulled up. They got out and were horsing around and wow did their teacher give them an earful about being respectful. A major earful. Those kids shaped right up.
(It turned into an interesting experience because later on a few kids from that group came up and asked, in English, if we were Americans. When we said that we were, they pulled out a piece of paper and recited something like, "thank you for your country's service in World War II." I thanked them and told them that my grandfather was a D-Day survivor and later was in Paris. They were actually interested in that. I then added that I would like to thank their country for their service in the American Revolution. They went running back to their teacher and we then heard the name Lafayette being thrown about.)
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Post by peabay on Jun 3, 2016 12:59:50 GMT
We have been there many times and it has been absolute silence every time. I would've been horrified to have to have been chastised like that. I hope the talkers were properly ashamed.
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Post by freebird on Jun 3, 2016 13:33:29 GMT
We have been there many times and it has been absolute silence every time. I would've been horrified to have to have been chastised like that. I hope the talkers were properly ashamed. I'd turn 19 shades of red if that happened to me. Like, someone help me cover up with this big giant rock.
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Post by gmcwife1 on Jun 3, 2016 13:55:16 GMT
“It is requested that everyone maintain an atmosphere of silence and respect at all times!” When I read the thread title, I thought, um no... that is not cool to use that language if you are THE guard at the tomb of the unknown soldier. The way he phrased it was fine. I just read an article last weekend about the guards that said they aren't allowed to curse, so I was very thrown by the title!
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Post by cade387 on Jun 3, 2016 14:00:19 GMT
“It is requested that everyone maintain an atmosphere of silence and respect at all times!” When I read the thread title, I thought, um no... that is not cool to use that language if you are THE guard at the tomb of the unknown soldier. The way he phrased it was fine. I thought the same thing. I have heard them say the polite line above several times, but I was thinking "oh my goodness a soldier said "STFU" - no way!
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Post by RosieKat on Jun 3, 2016 14:01:14 GMT
I don't think it's just an American thing. When we were at the Sistine Chapel 15 years ago, the guards kept having to call for "SIIIIIII-LEEEEEEEENCE." Not only is it a museum exhibit, so to speak, it is also a chapel still in use for regular religious service and prayer.
I think it tends to come out when people have to wait in a long line. They may begin with good intentions, but waiting makes chatter start up. Not an excuse, but an explanation.
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Post by chendra on Jun 3, 2016 14:16:16 GMT
I don't think it's just an American thing. When we were at the Sistine Chapel 15 years ago, the guards kept having to call for "SIIIIIII-LEEEEEEEENCE." Not only is it a museum exhibit, so to speak, it is also a chapel still in use for regular religious service and prayer. I think it tends to come out when people have to wait in a long line. They may begin with good intentions, but waiting makes chatter start up. Not an excuse, but an explanation. We experienced the same at Sainte-Chapelle in Paris. Every few minutes, a woman would cry out "Silence!" over a loudspeaker (not quite as satisfying as what the guard gets to say). People couldn't even refrain from talking for more than a few minutes at a time. It is a beautiful chapel, especially when the light streams through the stained glass in the afternoon. I think people become excited and feel the need to talk about it, despite the signs and the "Silence!" reminder person.
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Post by anxiousmom on Jun 3, 2016 14:25:29 GMT
I saw a documentary somewhere about these guys-the ones that are accepted into the unit that guards the tomb. They are hardcore about feeling like it is the greatest honor they can participate in and take it very seriously. It was kind of humbling really to hear them talk about it and the hours and hours and hours of work and practice they put in to perfecting the routines required for the job.
It isn't just a monument to them, it the ideal of that these unnamed represent their brother's in arms and the reverence that brotherhood means to them.
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Post by Outspoken on Jun 3, 2016 16:22:35 GMT
I've never visited a tomb of unknown soldier, but I have been to Pearl Harbor and it was eerily silent. I'm ok with that. However, I am an emotional person and I did cry when reading the list of names at the memorial. I wasn't the only one crying, but our sniffles were definitely the only sounds.
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Post by auntkelly on Jun 3, 2016 17:27:01 GMT
We have been there many times and it has been absolute silence every time. I would've been horrified to have to have been chastised like that. I hope the talkers were properly ashamed. I've been twice and it was completely silent both times. I think most people are so moved they don't have to be told to be quiet. I had the same experience at the American cemetery in Normandy. We walked around for a couple of hours and everyone who was there spoke quietly when they spoke at all. It was very nice and respectful, and no one, as far as I know, had to be told to be quiet.
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