M in Carolina
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Post by M in Carolina on Jun 5, 2016 11:42:16 GMT
But she's gonna have the BEST vanity license plate!!!!
I didn't understand what her name was supposed to be at first--K8lyn would have made more sense. I did learn Roman numerals, but most people in the US don't know them. There are a lot of people with Roman numeral date tattoos--like Justin Bieber-- I IX VIII V instead of the correct MCMLXXXV
Alyca, my name is Micah. Nobody knows how to spell it--they always switch it to Micha. Also, most people tell me that they know a boy named Micah. I've also been marked absent multiple times because the teacher was looking for a boy--no questions about why there was an extra girl in the class.
I hate my name. My family doesn't even use it. They call me Mimi. As far a Starbucks, I just tell them the letter M.
I like Elijah, but I think that Alijah isn't going to be pronounced the same, and nobody will ever spell it right.
I get a lot of compliments on my name, but I think it sounds harsh with the kuh sounds.
I always envied the kids that could find personalized souvenirs, etc.
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Post by pelirroja on Jun 5, 2016 12:01:51 GMT
Slight hijack: My Dad is "junior" and has always been called by his middle name. Legally he has to write out his given first name (even if it's only an initial) followed by his middle (real) name. So he decided he was going to do things differently for my brothers and give them NO middle name whatsoever. Great theory but it totally backfired. As grownups, my brothers each have to write "NMI" (no middle initial) on all their legal paperwork. NMI is longer than if Dad had just given them a meaningless initial like "X" or "Q". It gets even more complicated because our last name is extremely common.
One of my daughter's friends has the biblical name "Micah" just as M in Carolina does. And my daughter's friend has is always put on the boys list instead of girls list for roll call. As a teenager, she totally hates her name and calls herself something other than her given name at school (her parents still continue to call her by the name they gave her, not the name she wants to use).
The best way to judge a baby name, imho, is to ask a preschool or elementary teacher about it. We chose a name we hadn't heard very often for our daughter who was born in July. By the following January, it was the 7th most popular name that year so she has to get called by her first name and her last initial. (Definitely not my intention at all).
I have an unusual name and get asked all the time how to pronounce it, how to spell it, etc. And even though I tell them, they spell it and say it however they want: it's not even close to my real name sometimes. I wish my parents had been a little more orthodox and chose a more common name. Having red hair is tough enough.
And yes, I read that baby's name on the original post as KVillian. I already feel sorry for that kid.
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Post by Spongemom Scrappants on Jun 5, 2016 12:59:46 GMT
I'm voting with #teamstupid on this ridiculous name. That's so cutesy it makes my head hurt.
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Post by anxiousmom on Jun 5, 2016 13:35:26 GMT
Funny...I just had a conversation with my youngest where he said that he is thinking that when he moves off to college of having people start calling him by his middle name. Not because his first name is unusual or easily mispronounced, but because is middle name is more uncommon. Apparently is first name is too common for him (there were four of them in his elementary class-small school) and his middle name is WAY cooler. When I chose his name, I was going for a more traditional name and his middle name is a family last name. Just goes to show you, you can't win. (We won't even talk about my name-it is so common that you can pretty much accurately guess my age because it's popularity cycle and my middle name is Lynn like every other southern girl ever born. I was born to be average. )
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Post by refugeepea on Jun 5, 2016 14:07:19 GMT
If you are going to pronounce it the same then spell it the same. I personally don't pronounce Elijah as uh-lie-zha and don't know anyone that does. Around here it is E-lie-juh; using a sound that is a long E not an "uh" and a j sound like jeep. the name you pronounce as "Uh-lie-zha" is spelled Elisha and is a different name altogether. Elisha was a follower of Elijah (they are biblical names so get used fairly frequently in the bible belt if for no other reason the Sunday school lessons) . Alijah is going to get A-lie-juh. I pronounce all of those names the same way.
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Post by fruitysuet on Jun 5, 2016 14:12:36 GMT
I personally don't pronounce Elijah as uh-lie-zha Nor do I actually. I forgot to write that. I'd pronounce it Eh-lie-juh and Alijah I'd expect to be pronounced Ah-lie-juh. Agreed Back to the op though. Must remember to show this to my own dd who constantly berates me for naming her Chiara (key-are-a) the Italian version with the silent 'h' as no-one gets it right when they see it spelt before hearing it out aloud.
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Post by kernriver on Jun 5, 2016 16:43:49 GMT
Its KATELYN. The VII is 8. So its K-8-lynn. Omfg.
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Post by utmr on Jun 5, 2016 16:55:09 GMT
I read it as a radio station. "One oh three point seee-veeen K V I L". (DFW peas sing along...)
Poor kid
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Post by crazy4scraps on Jun 5, 2016 17:16:04 GMT
....slight hijack..... We are doing IVF and transferring a female embryo next month. I have a unique name (Alyca) and my husband has a currently very common name for babies (Ethan). I very much want an uncommon name for our baby girl, but not something ridiculous or stereotypical (my husband is black and I am white. We want to have a name where you can't necessarily tell their ethnicity by the name--so nothing like LaTanya or Tanisha, etc). We are not into crazy spelling to make a common name sound uncommon. That having been said..... we both love the name Elijah, and have had it on our baby boy name list forever. We have lots of boy names we like, but not a single girl name. Then I randomly came across an article in a magazine where there was a baby girl named Alijah. Thoughts on this? We would pronounce it exactly the same as Elijah (uh--lie--zha). I kind of love it but I'm not for sure. I like names with lots of syllables (Dominic, Tobias, Elijah, etc were on our boy list) I agree with the others who say they would think to pronounce Alijah with an A sound at the beginning, so if you like the name Elijah just spell it the normal way and save everyone some trouble. (And I too would pronounce that name like EEE-lie-zha.) What about the name Aaliyah? (Ah-LEE-yuh) That said, there is a family in our neighborhood with three kids: Parker, Hunter and Dylan--all girls. They don't have any brothers. There was a little girl in DD's kindergarten class named Elliot, and another girl in the first grade named that too. To be honest, whenever I see girls with traditional boy names it always makes me wonder just a little bit if the parents really wanted a boy instead of the girl they got. I'm sure that's not the case, but I still always think it.
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Post by PNWMom on Jun 5, 2016 17:32:14 GMT
But she's gonna have the BEST vanity license plate!!!! I didn't understand what her name was supposed to be at first--K8lyn would have made more sense. I did learn Roman numerals, but most people in the US don't know them. There are a lot of people with Roman numeral date tattoos--like Justin Bieber-- I IX VIII V instead of the correct MCMLXXXV Alyca, my name is Micah. Nobody knows how to spell it--they always switch it to Micha. Also, most people tell me that they know a boy named Micah. I've also been marked absent multiple times because the teacher was looking for a boy--no questions about why there was an extra girl in the class. I hate my name. My family doesn't even use it. They call me Mimi. As far a Starbucks, I just tell them the letter M. I like Elijah, but I think that Alijah isn't going to be pronounced the same, and nobody will ever spell it right. I get a lot of compliments on my name, but I think it sounds harsh with the kuh sounds. I always envied the kids that could find personalized souvenirs, etc. My name is Alyca (uh-lee-suh). NO one gets it right. I get Lisa and uh-leesh-uh and uh-lish-uh and Allison and Alice and Uh-leer-uh (not sure how that happens, but it totally does). I always knew when they got to my name in roll call on the first day of school because the teacher would pause and scrunch up their face before making an attempt at it. But... I love my name. I love that it is unique. I think it looks pretty. I love the story behind how my parents chose it. I correct people on a daily basis, but I am not at all upset when they get it wrong--I just learned the hard way that if you DON'T correct someone (someone who will see you frequently, not some random stranger), they will call you the wrong thing for the entirety of your relationship and will feel AWFUL when they someday realize they have been saying it wrong all along. I remember the delight on my dad's face when we were at a state fair when I was 19 or so and there was a woodcarver who would carve any name out of wood and my dad had him make my name for me. I still have that. Never had a keychain or shot glass with my name on it, but I have this 6 inch carving of my name on it and I remember my dad giggling when he handed it to me. My middle name is boring and super common and I detest it (Marie). Most of my siblings have made up names as well, and love them. I would hate to be the Sara who has to go by her name plus last initial or specify that there is or is not an H, or the 5th Jennifer in a class. We have Rachel, Rachelle and Rochelle at work and that is a huge pain in the butt when they are all working on the same day. I realize the difficulties that can come of having a unique name, but I totally embrace that. I do know someone who has a daughter named Thailehr (Tyler), which I think is particularly awful and NOT somewhere I want to go with a name. But I also don't want the 7th Emma in a classroom or the 5th Sophia.
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Post by gar on Jun 5, 2016 17:33:57 GMT
Its KATELYN. The VII is 8. So its K-8-lynn. Omfg. I think most of us got that - or are you talking to yourself?
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Post by gar on Jun 5, 2016 17:37:20 GMT
But she's gonna have the BEST vanity license plate!!!! I didn't understand what her name was supposed to be at first--K8lyn would have made more sense. I did learn Roman numerals, but most people in the US don't know them. There are a lot of people with Roman numeral date tattoos--like Justin Bieber-- I IX VIII V instead of the correct MCMLXXXV Alyca, my name is Micah. Nobody knows how to spell it--they always switch it to Micha. Also, most people tell me that they know a boy named Micah. I've also been marked absent multiple times because the teacher was looking for a boy--no questions about why there was an extra girl in the class. I hate my name. My family doesn't even use it. They call me Mimi. As far a Starbucks, I just tell them the letter M. I like Elijah, but I think that Alijah isn't going to be pronounced the same, and nobody will ever spell it right. I get a lot of compliments on my name, but I think it sounds harsh with the kuh sounds. I always envied the kids that could find personalized souvenirs, etc. My name is Alyca (uh-lee-suh). NO one gets it right. I get Lisa and uh-leesh-uh and uh-lish-uh and Allison and Alice and Uh-leer-uh (not sure how that happens, but it totally does). I always knew when they got to my name in roll call on the first day of school because the teacher would pause and scrunch up their face before making an attempt at it. But... I love my name. I love that it is unique. I think it looks pretty. I love the story behind how my parents chose it. I correct people on a daily basis, but I am not at all upset when they get it wrong--I just learned the hard way that if you DON'T correct someone (someone who will see you frequently, not some random stranger), they will call you the wrong thing for the entirety of your relationship and will feel AWFUL when they someday realize they have been saying it wrong all along. I remember the delight on my dad's face when we were at a state fair when I was 19 or so and there was a woodcarver who would carve any name out of wood and my dad had him make my name for me. I still have that. Never had a keychain or shot glass with my name on it, but I have this 6 inch carving of my name on it and I remember my dad giggling when he handed it to me. My middle name is boring and super common and I detest it (Marie). Most of my siblings have made up names as well, and love them. I would hate to be the Sara who has to go by her name plus last initial or specify that there is or is not an H, or the 5th Jennifer in a class. We have Rachel, Rachelle and Rochelle at work and that is a huge pain in the butt when they are all working on the same day. I realize the difficulties that can come of having a unique name, but I totally embrace that. I do know someone who has a daughter named Thailehr (Tyler), which I think is particularly awful and NOT somewhere I want to go with a name. But I also don't want the 7th Emma in a classroom or the 5th Sophia. I would guess that you're in a minority who loves having constant mix ups and hassle with their name but hey, it's your baby so you get to choose of course!
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Post by PNWMom on Jun 5, 2016 17:37:37 GMT
...and I am surprised by how some of you would pronounce Elijah. I think of the actor Elijah Woods, and he pronounces it uh-lie-zha, not ee-lie-juh. This has actually been a name we have discussed far before baby thinking times because my mom is hearing impaired and can't do certain sounds--like the CH in chef, or in Massachusetts. She can't hear/do the 'zha' sound well, either. She got a cochlear implant a few years ago and we worked with her a lot on those sounds, using Elijah Woods as one example (she has liked him since he was a little kid actor). Elijah pronunciation
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Post by PNWMom on Jun 5, 2016 17:43:51 GMT
My name is Alyca (uh-lee-suh). NO one gets it right. I get Lisa and uh-leesh-uh and uh-lish-uh and Allison and Alice and Uh-leer-uh (not sure how that happens, but it totally does). I always knew when they got to my name in roll call on the first day of school because the teacher would pause and scrunch up their face before making an attempt at it. But... I love my name. I love that it is unique. I think it looks pretty. I love the story behind how my parents chose it. I correct people on a daily basis, but I am not at all upset when they get it wrong--I just learned the hard way that if you DON'T correct someone (someone who will see you frequently, not some random stranger), they will call you the wrong thing for the entirety of your relationship and will feel AWFUL when they someday realize they have been saying it wrong all along. I remember the delight on my dad's face when we were at a state fair when I was 19 or so and there was a woodcarver who would carve any name out of wood and my dad had him make my name for me. I still have that. Never had a keychain or shot glass with my name on it, but I have this 6 inch carving of my name on it and I remember my dad giggling when he handed it to me. My middle name is boring and super common and I detest it (Marie). Most of my siblings have made up names as well, and love them. I would hate to be the Sara who has to go by her name plus last initial or specify that there is or is not an H, or the 5th Jennifer in a class. We have Rachel, Rachelle and Rochelle at work and that is a huge pain in the butt when they are all working on the same day. I realize the difficulties that can come of having a unique name, but I totally embrace that. I do know someone who has a daughter named Thailehr (Tyler), which I think is particularly awful and NOT somewhere I want to go with a name. But I also don't want the 7th Emma in a classroom or the 5th Sophia. I would guess that you're in a minority who loves having constant mix ups and hassle with their name but hey, it's your baby so you get to choose of course! I wouldn't say that I love having my name messed up all the time, but it is a very, very minor blip on my radar. It doesn't irritate me at all. I know that it is tricky. And, as a severely shy, socially awkward introvert, it gives me something to break the ice when meeting new people (I am an RN and meet new patients/families on a daily basis at work). I have a 30 second blurb about my name's origin that I tell when asked about my unusual name. Silver linings, and all of that...
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Post by gar on Jun 5, 2016 17:46:00 GMT
...and I am surprised by how some of you would pronounce Elijah. I think of the actor Elijah Woods, and he pronounces it uh-lie-zha, not ee-lie-juh. This has actually been a name we have discussed far before baby thinking times because my mom is hearing impaired and can't do certain sounds--like the CH in chef, or in Massachusetts. She can't hear/do the 'zha' sound well, either. She got a cochlear implant a few years ago and we worked with her a lot on those sounds, using Elijah Woods as one example (she has liked him since he was a little kid actor). Elijah pronunciationI don't hear it your way. I heard an indistinct first syllable leaning more towards ee than uh.
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Post by Rainbow on Jun 5, 2016 17:49:00 GMT
She's doomed to spell out her name every. freaking. time.
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Post by Zee on Jun 5, 2016 17:57:09 GMT
...and I am surprised by how some of you would pronounce Elijah. I think of the actor Elijah Woods, and he pronounces it uh-lie-zha, not ee-lie-juh. This has actually been a name we have discussed far before baby thinking times because my mom is hearing impaired and can't do certain sounds--like the CH in chef, or in Massachusetts. She can't hear/do the 'zha' sound well, either. She got a cochlear implant a few years ago and we worked with her a lot on those sounds, using Elijah Woods as one example (she has liked him since he was a little kid actor). Elijah pronunciationI definitely say and hear Elijah with a strong E, not an Uh, so I would not hear Elijah and Alijah the same way. Interesting about your mom, is that why your name is spelled in a way that wouldn't be pronounced correctly? Just curious, not trying to be rude. To me a "ca" is never going to make an S sound. Your name looks like Ally-ca or A-lie-ka to me. Alisa would never occur to me because phonetically, it doesn't make sense.
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Post by Deleted on Jun 5, 2016 18:03:14 GMT
...and I am surprised by how some of you would pronounce Elijah. I think of the actor Elijah Woods, and he pronounces it uh-lie-zha, not ee-lie-juh. This has actually been a name we have discussed far before baby thinking times because my mom is hearing impaired and can't do certain sounds--like the CH in chef, or in Massachusetts. She can't hear/do the 'zha' sound well, either. She got a cochlear implant a few years ago and we worked with her a lot on those sounds, using Elijah Woods as one example (she has liked him since he was a little kid actor). Elijah pronunciationIMO, your source isn't saying what you think it said. The initial E is must more E than uh, and I think they get the ending wrong. Try this one: www.merriam-webster.com/dictionary/Elijah yes, click the sound button for a verbal pronunciation.
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Post by supascrappa on Jun 5, 2016 18:14:09 GMT
Elementary teacher here.. I dislike cutesy made up spellings. Do you know how hard it is for kids to spell phonetically and learn spelling rules in English? Then parents give the child a name and essentially make up their own pronunciation rules (sorry Alyca- your name is pretty to look at but it doesn't say AL-ee-sha. It says AL-ee-Kah).
Elijah/Alijah- the difference is the beginning vowel sound.
The English language is hard enough... Spelling counts!
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Post by kernriver on Jun 5, 2016 18:39:54 GMT
Its KATELYN. The VII is 8. So its K-8-lynn. Omfg. I think most of us got that - or are you talking to yourself? I just posted..I didnt read thru 3pages of posts. Please forgive me
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Post by Rainbow on Jun 5, 2016 19:04:40 GMT
Elementary teacher here.. I dislike cutesy made up spellings. Do you know how hard it is for kids to spell phonetically and learn spelling rules in English? Then parents give the child a name and essentially make up their own pronunciation rules (sorry Alyca- your name is pretty to look at but it doesn't say AL-ee-sha. It says AL-ee-Kah). Elijah/Alijah- the difference is the beginning vowel sound. The English language is hard enough... Spelling counts! I have seen the made up spelling and then forced pronunciation that does not match. I always felt sorry for the kid.
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Post by PNWMom on Jun 5, 2016 19:07:30 GMT
...and I am surprised by how some of you would pronounce Elijah. I think of the actor Elijah Woods, and he pronounces it uh-lie-zha, not ee-lie-juh. This has actually been a name we have discussed far before baby thinking times because my mom is hearing impaired and can't do certain sounds--like the CH in chef, or in Massachusetts. She can't hear/do the 'zha' sound well, either. She got a cochlear implant a few years ago and we worked with her a lot on those sounds, using Elijah Woods as one example (she has liked him since he was a little kid actor). Elijah pronunciationI definitely say and hear Elijah with a strong E, not an Uh, so I would not hear Elijah and Alijah the same way. Interesting about your mom, is that why your name is spelled in a way that wouldn't be pronounced correctly? Just curious, not trying to be rude. To me a "ca" is never going to make an S sound. Your name looks like Ally-ca or A-lie-ka to me. Alisa would never occur to me because phonetically, it doesn't make sense. No....my mom has been (legally) deaf since birth (Usher's syndrome--she has also been blind since her 30's). She now has a cochlear implant, so one ear hears pretty good, but not great. She went to deaf school for about half of her schooling and mostly signed. She lip reads but can also hear, and hasn't signed since she was a kid. My name is a combination of my parents' best friends at the time--AL from Alan, YC from Joyce, and another A from Alan. My middle name (Marie) is Joyce's middle name. My parents did the same name-combo thing for my older sister and younger brother (but not my younger sister, who got Sabrina). My brother is Jobie (Joe and Brian cobbled together). My older sister was known as a scrapbooker and has a very unique name so I'm not going to 'out' her, but her name is a combo of my parents' names, and her middle name is a combo of my parents' middle names (Gale, from Charles and Gail). My mom often calls me Al-ick-uh when she is in a goofy mood (emphasis on the first syllable).
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Post by PNWMom on Jun 5, 2016 19:10:45 GMT
Interesting--I would totally pronounce Elisha uh-leesh-uh. Just the same as Alicia (I know many pronounce that ul-lee-see-uh, in the Spanish way). I have a coworker who is Elisa, which is pronounced basically exactly like mine (it is actually Ay-lees-uh, but the emphasis is on the second syllable so it sounds like uh-lees-uh or el-ees-uh).
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Post by PNWMom on Jun 5, 2016 19:14:47 GMT
Elementary teacher here.. I dislike cutesy made up spellings. Do you know how hard it is for kids to spell phonetically and learn spelling rules in English? Then parents give the child a name and essentially make up their own pronunciation rules (sorry Alyca- your name is pretty to look at but it doesn't say AL-ee-sha. It says AL-ee-Kah). Elijah/Alijah- the difference is the beginning vowel sound. The English language is hard enough... Spelling counts! (your post totally cracks me up, because I *don't* pronounce my name Al-ee-sha.....also--I was in the Oregon state spelling bee in high school. I had skillz) Yes, my name is odd. My go-to comment about it when people ask is that my parents were weird. (uh-LEES-uh)
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Post by Zee on Jun 5, 2016 20:53:49 GMT
I definitely say and hear Elijah with a strong E, not an Uh, so I would not hear Elijah and Alijah the same way. Interesting about your mom, is that why your name is spelled in a way that wouldn't be pronounced correctly? Just curious, not trying to be rude. To me a "ca" is never going to make an S sound. Your name looks like Ally-ca or A-lie-ka to me. Alisa would never occur to me because phonetically, it doesn't make sense. No....my mom has been (legally) deaf since birth (Usher's syndrome--she has also been blind since her 30's). She now has a cochlear implant, so one ear hears pretty good, but not great. She went to deaf school for about half of her schooling and mostly signed. She lip reads but can also hear, and hasn't signed since she was a kid. My name is a combination of my parents' best friends at the time--AL from Alan, YC from Joyce, and another A from Alan. My middle name (Marie) is Joyce's middle name. My parents did the same name-combo thing for my older sister and younger brother (but not my younger sister, who got Sabrina). My brother is Jobie (Joe and Brian cobbled together). My older sister was known as a scrapbooker and has a very unique name so I'm not going to 'out' her, but her name is a combo of my parents' names, and her middle name is a combo of my parents' middle names (Gale, from Charles and Gail). My mom often calls me Al-ick-uh when she is in a goofy mood (emphasis on the first syllable). I just wondered if it was because she doesn't "hear" the phonetic sounds like we do. I like the story behind the names
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Post by myshelly on Jun 5, 2016 21:22:40 GMT
...and I am surprised by how some of you would pronounce Elijah. I think of the actor Elijah Woods, and he pronounces it uh-lie-zha, not ee-lie-juh. This has actually been a name we have discussed far before baby thinking times because my mom is hearing impaired and can't do certain sounds--like the CH in chef, or in Massachusetts. She can't hear/do the 'zha' sound well, either. She got a cochlear implant a few years ago and we worked with her a lot on those sounds, using Elijah Woods as one example (she has liked him since he was a little kid actor). Elijah pronunciationHe does? Are you sure? I've never heard it pronounced like that.
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Post by myshelly on Jun 5, 2016 21:26:40 GMT
...and I am surprised by how some of you would pronounce Elijah. I think of the actor Elijah Woods, and he pronounces it uh-lie-zha, not ee-lie-juh. This has actually been a name we have discussed far before baby thinking times because my mom is hearing impaired and can't do certain sounds--like the CH in chef, or in Massachusetts. She can't hear/do the 'zha' sound well, either. She got a cochlear implant a few years ago and we worked with her a lot on those sounds, using Elijah Woods as one example (she has liked him since he was a little kid actor). Elijah pronunciationI just watched a clip with him being interviewed where they repeatedly say his name while playing an advice game called Would Elijah Wood They are saying it the way you say it is not pronounced and the way everyone else is saying it is pronounced. m.youtube.com/watch?v=ftHpky-Kl3U
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Post by k8smom on Jun 5, 2016 21:30:23 GMT
That's just awful. I have a Katelyn and she's always hated her name and has gone by Kate since the 3rd grade.
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Post by crazy4scraps on Jun 5, 2016 21:33:23 GMT
...and I am surprised by how some of you would pronounce Elijah. I think of the actor Elijah Woods, and he pronounces it uh-lie-zha, not ee-lie-juh. This has actually been a name we have discussed far before baby thinking times because my mom is hearing impaired and can't do certain sounds--like the CH in chef, or in Massachusetts. She can't hear/do the 'zha' sound well, either. She got a cochlear implant a few years ago and we worked with her a lot on those sounds, using Elijah Woods as one example (she has liked him since he was a little kid actor). Elijah pronunciationI don't hear it your way. I heard an indistinct first syllable leaning more towards ee than uh. Yes, I hear Ell-EYE-zha.
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