flute4peace
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Post by flute4peace on Jun 10, 2016 16:08:52 GMT
Since we have a pea who recently lost her significant other to suicide, may I respectfully ask that you either remove this or put it under a spoiler? I know it's meant to be funny, and I'm sure to some it is, but it's also a pretty sensitive subject for many. Thanks. it seems like she did delete.. this is just a reminder to delete yours, which is now the only one showing it. Thank you, I just got back to the board. I thought I had put it under a spoiler but apparently was unsuccessful. I'll see if I can get it out of there.
(and very happy to see that she did delete)
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MizIndependent
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Post by MizIndependent on Jun 10, 2016 16:12:52 GMT
it seems like she did delete.. this is just a reminder to delete yours, which is now the only one showing it. Thank you, I just got back to the board. I thought I had put it under a spoiler but apparently was unsuccessful. I'll see if I can get it out of there.
(and very happy to see that she did delete)
Of course.
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Post by gmcwife1 on Jun 10, 2016 17:40:11 GMT
Not blaming the staffer at all. I just think she was advised well. I think the quote was an appropriate response. Face it - the world has changed - social media is a part of our world. Not all all voters are middle aged or old. I may may be middle aged and not totally get social media - but I do understand that it does significantly impact our lives. I do hold her accountable for her Twitter account and I like her response. What kind of a moron advises "Delete your account" as a response when the person they're representing is already infamously known for deleting 33,000 emails that she didn't think were relevant to an FOIA request that is now wrapped up in an FBI criminal investigation?!? I mean, wow. Way to shine the light right back on yourself! ETA: That was exactly my thought this morning when I heard it. "Delete your account" like you deleted your emails??? My other thought was it's interesting that Hillary tends to not be held accountable for various actions. The new issue with Rajive Fernando, who was appointed to the intelligence board with no experience, possibly because of the large donations he gave to her foundation. That is being pushed off as her staff doing. Yet Trump is being held accountable for all dealings of Trump University. I find it very interesting that they are or are not held accountable for different yet similar things depending on who you support.
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MizIndependent
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Post by MizIndependent on Jun 10, 2016 18:09:09 GMT
That was exactly my thought this morning when I heard it. "Delete your account" like you deleted your emails??? My other thought was it's interesting that Hillary tends to not be held accountable for various actions. The new issue with Rajive Fernando, who was appointed to the intelligence board with no experience, possibly because of the large donations he gave to her foundation. That is being pushed off as her staff doing. Yet Trump is being held accountable for all dealings of Trump University. I find it very interesting that they are or are not held accountable for different yet similar things depending on who you support. Almost created a new post for this very thing...but I know the politics issue is getting fatigued here, lol. I find it oddly convenient that they released this just after Tuesday's primary and Obama's endorsement. Feels like "take out the trash Friday". Here's GMA's article from this morning ( though the story first broke back in 2012): "How Clinton Donor Got on Sensitive Intelligence Board"Of particular note is the following: I find it especially interesting Fernando stepped down almost immediately when questions started being asked about his expertise, why he was on that particular board, etc.: and Interestingly enough, Fernando is now a super delegate who has committed his vote to Hillary Clinton. No surprise there.
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Post by Deleted on Jun 10, 2016 18:45:00 GMT
I've actually been looking for something to be impressed by, and acting like a child 'because someone else did it first' just doesn't do it for me. I'm not so much offended as deeply disappointed. You can defend it all you want out of blind party loyalty, but the fact is that continuing this kind of behavior will cost her votes that could have helped her defeat Trump. Defend her out blind party loyalty? Really? In the big scheme of things IT'S JUST NOT THAT BIG A DEAL.I know you are disappointed with what YOU view as inappropriate behavior by Hillary but don't insult others because they don't see Hillary the way you do. How very arrogant of you to believe that if someone doesn't see Hillary the way you do they are defending her out "blind party loyalty". Phooey. First of all, my blind party loyalty statement was not directed at anyone and everyone who would vote for Clinton. I completely understand voting for her while holding your nose, wishing you didn't have to resort to it, and considering her the lesser of two terrible evils. That wasn't what I was talking about and you know it. But yes, if voting for someone NO MATTER WHAT THEY DO OR HAVE DONE just because they have a (D) or an (R) behind their name on the ballot isn't blind party loyalty, then I don't know what is. It goes both ways. Just like there are people who will defend Hill no matter what she does just because of that (D) behind her name, there are plenty of people doing the same with Trump. Paul Ryan is a particularly (but certainly not solitary) egregious example of that. Of course one tweet is not a big deal. But when piled upon all the other shady, immoral, and stupid shit she's done, it just says to me that there's nowhere she won't go and nothing she won't do. I'd like nothing better than for her to prove me wrong before November finally rolls around-if it ever does. This tweet struck me as a sign that she won't. As for telling me not to insult others, and calling me arrogant, you're joking right? The only people that my statement would have cause to insult are those who actually are blinded by party loyalty, and excusing anything and everything that she does just because of the (D). If that's not you, then why are you insulted? I don't think that anyone who would vote for Hillary is "stupid" or even blindly loyal to the party. Have you forgotten that you were the one who called anyone who would vote for Trump "stupid," and then doubled-down when called out on the name-calling? I think Trump is awful and horrible, but I'm not going to start hurling out "stupid" and other insults to people just because I disagree with their views. Because, you know, it would be wrong to insult others who don't see him as I do (see your underlined statement above). That would be very arrogant, wouldn't it? For anyone who is not a blind party loyalist who was insulted by my use of that phrase, I am sorry as that was not my intent. I was specifically talking about party loyalists who will chuck all their morals and ideals out the window to support a candidate just because of the letter behind their name. People that claim it's wrong when one side does it, but not their side. If that's not you, then please believe me when I say I was not trying to be arrogant or offensive with the 'blind' term. It's a very specific descriptor for a very specific type of person.
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Post by Sarah*H on Jun 10, 2016 19:26:06 GMT
Did you guys see the Trump/Warren twitter exchange this morning? Trump calls her PocahontasAnd she responds "No seriously, delete your account." Oh Donald.
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Post by Deleted on Jun 10, 2016 19:47:58 GMT
Defend her out blind party loyalty? Really? In the big scheme of things IT'S JUST NOT THAT BIG A DEAL.I know you are disappointed with what YOU view as inappropriate behavior by Hillary but don't insult others because they don't see Hillary the way you do. How very arrogant of you to believe that if someone doesn't see Hillary the way you do they are defending her out "blind party loyalty". Phooey. First of all, my blind party loyalty statement was not directed at anyone and everyone who would vote for Clinton. I completely understand voting for her while holding your nose, wishing you didn't have to resort to it, and considering her the lesser of two terrible evils. That wasn't what I was talking about and you know it. But yes, if voting for someone NO MATTER WHAT THEY DO OR HAVE DONE just because they have a (D) or an (R) behind their name on the ballot isn't blind party loyalty, then I don't know what is. It goes both ways. Just like there are people who will defend Hill no matter what she does just because of that (D) behind her name, there are plenty of people doing the same with Trump. Paul Ryan is a particularly (but certainly not solitary) egregious example of that. Of course one tweet is not a big deal. But when piled upon all the other shady, immoral, and stupid shit she's done, it just says to me that there's nowhere she won't go and nothing she won't do. I'd like nothing better than for her to prove me wrong before November finally rolls around-if it ever does. This tweet struck me as a sign that she won't. As for telling me not to insult others, and calling me arrogant, you're joking right? The only people that my statement would have cause to insult are those who actually are blinded by party loyalty, and excusing anything and everything that she does just because of the (D). If that's not you, then why are you insulted? I don't think that anyone who would vote for Hillary is "stupid" or even blindly loyal to the party. Have you forgotten that you were the one who called anyone who would vote for Trump "stupid," and then doubled-down when called out on the name-calling? I think Trump is awful and horrible, but I'm not going to start hurling out "stupid" and other insults to people just because I disagree with their views. Because, you know, it would be wrong to insult others who don't see him as I do (see your underlined statement above). That would be very arrogant, wouldn't it? For anyone who is not a blind party loyalist who was insulted by my use of that phrase, I am sorry as that was not my intent. I was specifically talking about party loyalists who will chuck all their morals and ideals out the window to support a candidate just because of the letter behind their name. People that claim it's wrong when one side does it, but not their side. If that's not you, then please believe me when I say I was not trying to be arrogant or offensive with the 'blind' term. It's a very specific descriptor for a very specific type of person. No I didn't forget I called anyone who votes for Trump stupid. And I got called on it. While I still believe anyone who votes for Trump is suspect I should have kept it to myself. Whether you intended to or not your remark came off as insulting to those who do not believe as you. I read your response and went away and looked at from different angles but it still came off as insulting. To me anyway. I think one of the problems in discussions with strangers on boards like this is one doesn't always get the point they are trying make across to others in the way it was meant to. Unless you say it straight out like I did with my stupid remark. There can be absoulately no misunderstanding of what I meant.
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Post by annaintx on Jun 10, 2016 20:00:09 GMT
It really is a Twitter thing, for those of you tearing at your hair. Vox explains:: "Delete your account" is a pretty standard joke tweet, especially in political and media Twitter (which both the people writing "Hillary Clinton's" tweets and the people reading them in the middle of a Thursday afternoon are likely to be familiar with). But this is a well-executed iteration of it. You don't tweet "delete your account" in response to an outrageous or offensive tweet, because it's not a serious demand. So many of the things that Trump tweets (or retweets) wouldn't be appropriate targets. Rather, "delete your account" is used when someone has tried to be funny on Twitter — for example, by attempting to land a sick burn — and failed. That's a pretty good description of Trump's tweet. "Crooked Hillary" was never his best nickname, and it's not enough to carry a whole tweet. And the "nobody else does" joke, while it plays okay to his base, isn't his strongest material — Obama is a pretty popular president, and way more people hate Clinton than hate Obama. The other reason this is funny, of course, is that it might actually be a good idea for Donald Trump to delete his Twitter account. Unlike Clinton's professionally run, deliberately savvy, focus-tested-within-an-inch-of-its-life social media "voice" (a voice that sounds very little like the candidate herself), Trump's Twitter feed is the purest distillation of Trump: mocking, shouty, and unable to let go of a slight. And it poses all the same liabilities for his campaign. His insistence on writing all his tweets himself (which curiously disappears whenever he's criticized for tweeting something objectionable) is a symptom of his broader problem of campaign management — he's micromanaging his communications strategy while letting everything else go to seed — and, practically speaking, it's a massive time suck. His repeated retweeting of anyone who praises him, even when they are obviously neo-Nazis, has certainly reinforced the idea that Donald Trump simply doesn't have good judgment of people — and that he's willing to indulge extremism among his followers because he's too afraid of losing his support. If he got off Twitter, his advisers wouldn't have to worry that he will literally tweet out his running-mate announcement (which is seriously, I am not kidding, something they are worried about right now). And, perhaps most importantly, spending less time typing on his phone would save embarrassing injury to those famously stubby fingers. UPDATE: Donald Trump is constitutionally unable to let someone else have the last word, so we should have seen this coming: Ya...thanks for the uh, education. I have two teenage daughters, I already knew what it meant. My point is - not very presidential. Trump is an ass, we already knew this. Didn't think I'd see Hill take his bait. Seriously-- Thank you for this. I had no idea. My dd is 6.5 and I don't do twitter. SIGH. That said, we are ALL SCREWED this November.
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Post by Deleted on Jun 10, 2016 20:03:20 GMT
I thought it was funny.
But then I don't take twitter very seriously. And I don't mind if candidates make jokes and are not serious about everything. I'm surprised so many people are jumping on her back because it was un-presidential. Maybe I'm just one of those people who find humor in everything instead of anger.
I'm more worried about Trump trying to be presidential and failing in so many ways. Of course that may be because my husband is disabled and I can't forgive his mocking that reporter. That's something I didn't find funny at all.
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Post by amom23 on Jun 10, 2016 20:33:17 GMT
Did you guys see the Trump/Warren twitter exchange this morning? Trump calls her PocahontasAnd she responds "No seriously, delete your account." Oh Donald. How do you not love Elizabeth Warren?
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flute4peace
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Post by flute4peace on Jun 10, 2016 20:58:47 GMT
That was exactly my thought this morning when I heard it. "Delete your account" like you deleted your emails??? My other thought was it's interesting that Hillary tends to not be held accountable for various actions. The new issue with Rajive Fernando, who was appointed to the intelligence board with no experience, possibly because of the large donations he gave to her foundation. That is being pushed off as her staff doing. Yet Trump is being held accountable for all dealings of Trump University. I find it very interesting that they are or are not held accountable for different yet similar things depending on who you support. Almost created a new post for this very thing...but I know the politics issue is getting fatigued here, lol. I find it oddly convenient that they released this just after Tuesday's primary and Obama's endorsement. Feels like "take out the trash Friday". Here's GMA's article from this morning ( though the story first broke back in 2012): "How Clinton Donor Got on Sensitive Intelligence Board"Of particular note is the following: I find it especially interesting Fernando stepped down almost immediately when questions started being asked about his expertise, why he was on that particular board, etc.: and Interestingly enough, Fernando is now a super delegate who has committed his vote to Hillary Clinton. No surprise there. This is intriguing
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Post by SockMonkey on Jun 10, 2016 22:59:27 GMT
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Post by femalebusiness on Jun 10, 2016 23:13:07 GMT
Oh man, I love you for posting this!
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Post by jayfab on Jun 10, 2016 23:39:31 GMT
Oh man, I love you for posting this! Me too! That last paragraph says it all SaveSave
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MizIndependent
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Post by MizIndependent on Jun 11, 2016 0:16:42 GMT
Aww...now, you see that's amusing. She actually thinks she (Sara Benincasa) can belittle/guilt/insult people into her point of view. When has that ever worked? Oh ya...never.
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Post by SockMonkey on Jun 11, 2016 1:09:51 GMT
Aww...now, you see that's amusing. She actually thinks she can belittle/guilt/insult people into her point of view. When has that ever worked? Oh ya...never. You do you, tire fire.
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MizIndependent
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Post by MizIndependent on Jun 11, 2016 1:20:03 GMT
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Post by refugeepea on Jun 11, 2016 1:36:16 GMT
I didn't get it until mollycoddle posted the lengthy explanation (thank you!). Now I can safely say, what the hell is all the outrage about? It was funny. I can understand the argument that bringing up the word delete may be more damaging to her than not. But you can lay that one at an assistant's door, whether you like it or not. If she writes the tweet, she does sign it H. Of course she's responsible in the end for whatever goes out under her name, but I sincerely doubt she tweeted that herself. But the argument that she's lowering herself to his level ... you all are joking, right? Did you not just watch 16 Republicans go under, most of whom tried to be gentlemanly and not stoop to his level? He needs to be kicked back in the ass every time he opens his mouth. It's even better when it's being done by a woman. This exchange has absolutely zero to do with her qualifications, her competence, her ability to be presidential, her standing on the right side of purple (by my standards) ... but I guess if you're looking for something to be offended by, go for it. It's your call. ITA! I did not know the meaning of it either until the explanation. I'm not a fan of Hillary and will probably vote third party, but this isn't something that upsets me.
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Post by leftturnonly on Jun 11, 2016 1:55:10 GMT
Ummm. And Trump is perfect good in what he tweets? Got it. ? If this was directed at me, of course he's not. It would be nice if she could put herself out there as a better alternative, and not stoop to his level. She of all people needs to ignore his ridiculousness and present herself as a serious candidate, instead of running out into the schoolyard to join in the shenanigans. I'm surprised that isn't obvious. ? At least she's consistent. Same old same old from the Clinton camp.
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Post by Deleted on Jun 11, 2016 1:57:01 GMT
I don't know who the lady was in the video but she has a point.
All day I have been hearing that Sanders supporters aren't going to vote. That if they do vote it will be for some obscure third party candidate to "send a message".
That's it will be up to Hillary to "court" the Sanders' supporters.
But here is the thing. Bernie is not going to be the nominee and the only hope for any part of his agenda and Revolution , that have excited more supporters then anyone thought, to be enacted is if there is not only Democrat in the White House but to elect as many Democrats to Congress as we can. Otherwise his revolution will die.
Bernie is doing his part, that is what those meeting were about yesterday in DC laying the groundwork for pushing his agenda with the support of the Democratic leadership in the Senate when he is back in the Senate.
But it will all be for nothing if there isn't a Democrat in the White House and because of his age this is Bernie's one shot.
So I guess I have to wonder if the support for Bernie and his revolution is real or just a passing fancy until the next sparkly thing comes along to catch their collective attention. And if these individuals chose not to vote or vote for an obscure third party candidate I'm wondering if they really are sending a message or cutting off their nose to spite their face. They certainly will be doing a disservice to Bernie because without a Democrat in the White House Bernie will go back to being an "after thought"in the Senate.
But it's their choice.
PS I was just watching Rachel it seems the Clinton Campaign is hiring Sander staffers. They have already hired a couple and are in talks to hire more.
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Post by leftturnonly on Jun 11, 2016 1:58:05 GMT
I expected more from her. Why?
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Post by Deleted on Jun 11, 2016 2:00:51 GMT
I guess I don't understand why people belittle others who vote their conscience.
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Post by leftturnonly on Jun 11, 2016 2:07:09 GMT
It really is a Twitter thing, for those of you tearing at your hair. Vox explains:: "Delete your account" is a pretty standard joke tweet, especially in political and media Twitter (which both the people writing "Hillary Clinton's" tweets and the people reading them in the middle of a Thursday afternoon are likely to be familiar with). But this is a well-executed iteration of it. You don't tweet "delete your account" in response to an outrageous or offensive tweet, because it's not a serious demand. So many of the things that Trump tweets (or retweets) wouldn't be appropriate targets. Rather, "delete your account" is used when someone has tried to be funny on Twitter — for example, by attempting to land a sick burn — and failed. That's a pretty good description of Trump's tweet. "Crooked Hillary" was never his best nickname, and it's not enough to carry a whole tweet. And the "nobody else does" joke, while it plays okay to his base, isn't his strongest material — Obama is a pretty popular president, and way more people hate Clinton than hate Obama. The other reason this is funny, of course, is that it might actually be a good idea for Donald Trump to delete his Twitter account. Unlike Clinton's professionally run, deliberately savvy, focus-tested-within-an-inch-of-its-life social media "voice" (a voice that sounds very little like the candidate herself), Trump's Twitter feed is the purest distillation of Trump: mocking, shouty, and unable to let go of a slight. And it poses all the same liabilities for his campaign. His insistence on writing all his tweets himself (which curiously disappears whenever he's criticized for tweeting something objectionable) is a symptom of his broader problem of campaign management — he's micromanaging his communications strategy while letting everything else go to seed — and, practically speaking, it's a massive time suck. His repeated retweeting of anyone who praises him, even when they are obviously neo-Nazis, has certainly reinforced the idea that Donald Trump simply doesn't have good judgment of people — and that he's willing to indulge extremism among his followers because he's too afraid of losing his support. If he got off Twitter, his advisers wouldn't have to worry that he will literally tweet out his running-mate announcement (which is seriously, I am not kidding, something they are worried about right now). And, perhaps most importantly, spending less time typing on his phone would save embarrassing injury to those famously stubby fingers. UPDATE: Donald Trump is constitutionally unable to let someone else have the last word, so we should have seen this coming: Thanks for explaining. Deleting his account.... and putting a muzzle on him.... would go a long way to making this election cycle more tolerable for me.
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Post by leftturnonly on Jun 11, 2016 2:22:35 GMT
He needs to be kicked back in the ass every time he opens his mouth. It's even better when it's being done by a woman. Which is why I wanted to see Carly Fiorino on that debate stage with him. She was so fun to watch.
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Post by lucyg on Jun 11, 2016 2:33:27 GMT
He needs to be kicked back in the ass every time he opens his mouth. It's even better when it's being done by a woman. Which is why I wanted to see Carly Fiorino on that debate stage with him. She was so fun to watch. I did think of her when I wrote that paragraph. I'm no Carly fan, but she did handle him gracefully and effectively.
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Post by 2peaornot2pea on Jun 11, 2016 2:45:02 GMT
#deleteyouraccount is now trending on Twitter! It may have been childish, but people are talking about it. And a lot of people think the tweet was fabulous. Me included.
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Post by bothmykidsrbrats on Jun 11, 2016 2:51:46 GMT
#deleteyouraccount is now trending on Twitter! It may have been childish, but people are talking about it. And a lot of people think the tweet was fabulous. Me included. I'm sure it perked up some Sanders supporters.... Just like it was suppose to.
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Post by Deleted on Jun 11, 2016 5:13:41 GMT
Reince Priebus @ Hillary Clinton if anyone knows how to use the delete key, it's you.
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