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Post by ~Lauren~ on Jun 23, 2016 14:53:21 GMT
Germany is one of the toughest gun control laws in the world. And right now there is a terrorist or other crazy person in a German movie theater threatening to shoot up everybody. The bad guy has a good despite the moststrange and gun control laws out there
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Post by refugeepea on Jun 23, 2016 14:58:53 GMT
Your post comes across as gleeful that people are being held hostage in a movie theater. I'm firmly in the middle of gun control and don't know the right answer. Your post seems to be in poor form. 
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jeanninem
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Post by jeanninem on Jun 23, 2016 14:59:34 GMT
Germany is one of the toughest gun control laws in the world. And right now there is a terrorist or other crazy person in a German movie theater threatening to shoot up everybody. The bad guy has a good despite the moststrange and gun control laws out there Seriously. No one with half a brain believes that gun control policies will prevent all tragedies or keep guns out of the hands of criminals. But to do nothing will ensure that anybody and everybody will ALWAYS have the best guns, the fastest guns, the guns that will mow down people in the blink of an eye. Stop with the nonsensical arguments that just because we can't save every life or keep guns away from all criminal, we should just throw our hands up and do nothing. And stop gloating. You were so eager to post you couldn't make a coherent sentence.
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Post by not2peased on Jun 23, 2016 15:00:54 GMT
I don't know of a single person that believes that gun control will prevent all murders, do you?
just like seat belts don't prevent all deaths from car accidents, people want a way to reduce the number of murders.
it's beyond me how someone can think it's ok for someone who is too mentally ill to stand trial for murder, to be able to buy any gun, let alone an assault rifle
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carhoch
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Post by carhoch on Jun 23, 2016 15:04:34 GMT
Germany is one of the toughest gun control laws in the world. And right now there is a terrorist or other crazy person in a German movie theater threatening to shoot up everybody. The bad guy has a good despite the moststrange and gun control laws out there We can all hear he smirk in your post 
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Post by Deleted on Jun 23, 2016 15:08:39 GMT
Your post comes across as gleeful that people are being held hostage in a movie theater. I'm firmly in the middle of gun control and don't know the right answer. Your post seems to be in poor form. So gleeful she didn't even have time to proof read.
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Post by grinningcat on Jun 23, 2016 15:13:04 GMT
Wow. I have to agree with the other PPs that I am shocked to read the gleeful tone in your post. This is not something to be happy about nor proof that gun control doesn't work.
Are you also rubbing your hands together and grinning with anticipation that there will be a high death count so you can use this as ammunition?
Disgusting.
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Post by lumo on Jun 23, 2016 15:20:48 GMT
Germany is one of the toughest gun control laws in the world. And right now there is a terrorist or other crazy person in a German movie theater threatening to shoot up everybody. The bad guy has a good despite the moststrange and gun control laws out there You're ridiculous. No one is naïve enough to think that all murders by guns will just magically go *poof* and disappear. But will they be reduced? Yes. Also? Between 2000-2014, Germany had six mass shootings. SIX. So what they're doing is more effective than what we're doing -- which is nothing. The glee in your post turns my stomach.
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Post by Deleted on Jun 23, 2016 15:22:55 GMT
Again, for the back row. It is hard to count what doesn't occur. They have this one incident yet possibly 20 others avoided due to the controls they do have?
And I have to say normally posts on this topic at least have an expression of sorrow from the OP about the loss of life and then it eventually goes into gun control debate. But looks like OP couldn't give much of a fuck and is just cutting to the chase!
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Post by Sarah*H on Jun 23, 2016 15:23:26 GMT
The title of this post is reprehensibly smug. Whose first reaction to a situation like this is to go bait political opponents?
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Post by pierkiss on Jun 23, 2016 15:26:59 GMT
Your title makes it seem like you are gloating Lauren.
And yes, bad guys wih the intent to do harm will still get a gun if hey want it bad enough. But remind me, how often does this scenario play out in Germany? Every day like it does here?
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Post by stargazer on Jun 23, 2016 15:31:55 GMT
I've just googled relative figures to come back with a response but then I realised that this poster would ignore cold, hard facts, this kind of comment doesn't deserve my time & this kind of a reaction to a (very rare) tragedy says a lot more about the person posting it than about the laws in Germany.
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Post by ginacivey on Jun 23, 2016 15:33:44 GMT
you know..i'm a gun owning gal
we have lots of rifles, shotguns, and handguns
i appreciate the fact that i am allowed to own them
i don't want mine taken away
but if it were to save one life - i'd dump them in a truck myself
i realize it's not my guns that are killing people
i want there to be stricter laws governing the purchase and ownership of weapons
if you are so hell bent in YOUR rights superseding all others...well there is no amount of debate that will change your mind
or is there?
five or so years ago - i'd have argued you to the end about MY RIGHTS
but fuck my rights.....all this killing - with and without guns - has got to stop
it's not a 'slippery slope' - that's just a battle cry -
sure people use other methods...they resort to those when they can't get a gun
and it's hell of a lot easier to stop a knife wielding man than one with a full clip
gina
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Post by lumo on Jun 23, 2016 15:36:09 GMT
you know..i'm a gun owning gal we have lots of rifles, shotguns, and handguns i appreciate the fact that i am allowed to own them i don't want mine taken away but if it were to save one life - i'd dump them in a truck myself i realize it's not my guns that are killing people i want there to be stricter laws governing the purchase and ownership of weapons if you are so hell bent in YOUR rights superseding all others...well there is no amount of debate that will change your mind or is there? five or so years ago - i'd have argued you to the end about MY RIGHTS but fuck my rights.....all this killing - with and without guns - has got to stop it's not a 'slippery slope' - that's just a battle cry - sure people use other methods...they resort to those when they can't get a gun and it's hell of a lot easier to stop a knife wielding man than one with a full clip gina I'm pretty sure I love you.
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Post by ~Lauren~ on Jun 23, 2016 15:37:09 GMT
If that's how my post came off, I apologize. I am not the least bit gleeful. I am merely pointing out that gun control and gone bands do not do what it is that the proponents of those bands seem to think they will
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Post by Deleted on Jun 23, 2016 15:38:20 GMT
Germany is one of the toughest gun control laws in the world. And right now there is a terrorist or other crazy person in a German movie theater threatening to shoot up everybody. The bad guy has a good despite the moststrange and gun control laws out there We can all hear he smirk in your post Hard to say if the smirk is because of the shooting or "terrorist=Muslim".
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~Lauren~
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Post by ~Lauren~ on Jun 23, 2016 15:38:51 GMT
Gina, giving up your guns is not going to save if even one life. While I know you believe it laudable that you would give them up, three reality is that it is a grand gesture that has no practical impact on anything. You are not killing anyone and your guns are not killing anyone. And even if you gave them up, The bad guys would still get them so you're giving up your guns would be pointless gesture
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Post by secondlife on Jun 23, 2016 15:39:31 GMT
If that's how my post came off, I apologize. I am not the least bit gleeful. I am merely pointing out that gun control and gone bands do not do what it is that the proponents of those bands seem to think they will I know. I mean, they still have a 0.07 per 100,000 gun-related homicide rate. Clearly this demonstrates we can do nothing about our 3.43 per 100,000. Amirite?
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Post by elaine on Jun 23, 2016 15:40:09 GMT
My heart goes to the at least 25 wounded in this horrendous attack. Thank heaven the attack is over. The shooter was killed. Let us hope no one else dies.
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Post by elaine on Jun 23, 2016 15:41:29 GMT
you know..i'm a gun owning gal we have lots of rifles, shotguns, and handguns i appreciate the fact that i am allowed to own them i don't want mine taken away but if it were to save one life - i'd dump them in a truck myself i realize it's not my guns that are killing people i want there to be stricter laws governing the purchase and ownership of weapons if you are so hell bent in YOUR rights superseding all others...well there is no amount of debate that will change your mind or is there? five or so years ago - i'd have argued you to the end about MY RIGHTS but fuck my rights.....all this killing - with and without guns - has got to stop it's not a 'slippery slope' - that's just a battle cry - sure people use other methods...they resort to those when they can't get a gun and it's hell of a lot easier to stop a knife wielding man than one with a full clip gina I'm pretty sure I love you. Me too. ginacivey is my hero today.
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~Lauren~
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Post by ~Lauren~ on Jun 23, 2016 15:41:44 GMT
Germany is a much smaller population. They also do not have a constitution that guarantees individuals the right to bear arms. The homicide rates between the two countries are, in my opinion, comparing apples and oranges.
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~Lauren~
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Post by ~Lauren~ on Jun 23, 2016 15:43:07 GMT
No, Ally P, that's just your own biases coming into play. I have no idea if the terrorist in Germany is a Muslim. However I would not be the least bit surprised if it is
You can continue to play the "poor old Muslim me who's afraid to go to the United States". But, yeah I don't see Americans going overseas and shooting up people, bombing places, stabbing people in the streets etc. So you'll have to forgive me if I don't have a lot of compassion for you being upset that I considerThe word terrorist to equate with Muslims. Wow certainly not all Muslims are terrorists the fact is that the vast majority of terrorists are Muslim
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Post by missmiss on Jun 23, 2016 15:45:58 GMT
If that's how my post came off, I apologize. I am not the least bit gleeful. I am merely pointing out that gun control and gone bands do not do what it is that the proponents of those bands seem to think they will What a craptastic apology. How many deaths by guns have they had this year? How many mass shootings have they had this year? How many children have died by a gun there this year? Come back and tell me those stats on Germany when you want to talk about gun control in Germany so we can compare to the US. Let's get away from talking about terrorists and let's look at Germans who have walked into a school and shot and killed numerous kids. What about a German walking into a night club and shooting killing 49 people and wounding 50 others? What about a German walking into a church and killing 9 people? What about the German who was pissed in a movie theater and shot a man over someone throwing popcorn? What about the German who got road rage and shot someone? Terrorism isn't going away. Senseless deaths over popcorn and road rage can though.
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~Lauren~
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Post by ~Lauren~ on Jun 23, 2016 15:46:18 GMT
And didn't the end it is the argument of gun control fanatics that lacks any basis in reality. But please feel free to attack me. In my mind it just shows that you really don't believe your own arguments
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Post by eleezybeth on Jun 23, 2016 15:47:15 GMT
I used to live in that community and one of my BFFs goes to that movie theater and mall multiple times a week. Your glee towards this is disgusting. I'm glad those tragedies can prove your stance.
Mannheim is a very diverse city with a lot of different cultures and that region (Heidelberg, Mannheim and Viernheim) were noted to have a large influx of refugees (staying in old US housing in some cases). Are you making the stance on refugees as well? How right wing are you going to swing out your hate? Just curious what to expect...
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~Lauren~
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Post by ~Lauren~ on Jun 23, 2016 15:47:34 GMT
Whatever. I really don't give a crap if any of the knee-jerk liberals accept my apology about Seeming gleeful or not. In fact all it shows me is that there really isn't any point in admitting a mistake or wrongdoing. So read my post however you wish. I stand by it
In fact, I don't believe my postal was gleeful. But for the sake of argument I was willing to consider the point of you that it might've come off that way. I now see that making that accusation is another way to simply trying to shut down somebody who doesn't get on the Rah rah van the guns bandwagon
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Post by elaine on Jun 23, 2016 15:49:04 GMT
Germany is a much smaller population. They also do not have a constitution that guarantees individuals the right to bear arms. The homicide rates between the two countries are, in my opinion, comparing apples and oranges. Then why did YOU start a WHOLE THREAD comparing Germany to what you think will happen to the USA if we enacted gun control? YOU started the comparison, now you say it is an invalid comparison? Have you been drinking? Between the garbled gleeful not-proofread OP and this, something seems seriously off with you right now, Lauren. I don't agree with much you have to say politically, but this whole thread is even more hateful and frankly odd than usual.
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~Lauren~
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Post by ~Lauren~ on Jun 23, 2016 15:50:17 GMT
Oh goody now onto the have you been drinking because you don't like The content of my thread. It was garbled because I was using Siri and neglected to proofread.
Let me ask Elaine are you taking any bitch pills when you attack rainbow all the time or is that just your natural personality?
There is nothing off with me. Other then, perhaps, I should be more careful about proof reading in the future.
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Post by Deleted on Jun 23, 2016 15:50:44 GMT
Gina, giving up your guns is not going to save if even one life. While I know you believe it laudable that you would give them up, three reality is that it is a grand gesture that has no practical impact on anything. You are not killing anyone and your guns are not killing anyone. And even if you gave them up, The bad guys would still get them so you're giving up your guns would be pointless gesture The thing is...it isn't giving up ALL guns!!!! As with driving a car or flying a plane, you must work to obtain a license. I personally would like to see people have to take mandatory classes on the handling/proper storage procedures of guns. People still have access to hand guns and rifles. Taking these classes would help identify someone who might not be mentally stable. It would also give powers that be time to cross reference those that might be on a watch list. But if you disagree with some mandatory training or wait period, then that begs the question why would someone need such immediate access to a firearm. I will say that I think automatic assault rifles/guns need to be banned from the general populace. What is the purpose of these types of weapons. Provide me with a reason other than multiple kills, then I might change my mind.
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Post by stargazer on Jun 23, 2016 15:51:06 GMT
Germany is a much smaller population. They also do not have a constitution that guarantees individuals the right to bear arms. The homicide rates between the two countries are, in my opinion, comparing apples and oranges. The population of Germany is a quarter of the USA's. The rate of firearm related death per 100,000 people in the USA is about 50 times larger than in Germany. These figures are not apples to oranges.
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