The Birdhouse Lady
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Post by The Birdhouse Lady on Jun 23, 2016 22:10:44 GMT
Maybe you could put together a gift bag with some deodorant and soap with a cute wash rag. Tell you are remaining anonymous because you don't want to embarrass or hurt her feelings. You could leave it in a common area where she will see it.
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Post by smcast on Jun 23, 2016 22:16:41 GMT
I work with a gal that has a "stinky" sweat when she is nervous and sweaty at work. I realize we all smell when we sweat but some people have more of a stench than just working out or being hot. I wouldn't say anything.
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Post by Deleted on Jun 23, 2016 22:22:03 GMT
Maybe you could put together a gift bag with some deodorant and soap with a cute wash rag. Tell you are remaining anonymous because you don't want to embarrass or hurt her feelings. You could leave it in a common area where she will see it. I think that's a horrible idea. How is that not going to be embarrassing and hurtful? And how would you address it, hey stinky, I saw this and thought of you?
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Post by hockeyfan06 on Jun 23, 2016 22:26:59 GMT
One could leave a note on her car. Just write a polite, respectful note and the reason being that you didn't want to embarrass her and just wait to see if anything changes...
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Post by ktdoesntscrap on Jun 23, 2016 22:31:37 GMT
Maybe you could put together a gift bag with some deodorant and soap with a cute wash rag. Tell you are remaining anonymous because you don't want to embarrass or hurt her feelings. You could leave it in a common area where she will see it. She would have to be stupid to receive that anonymously and not take the hint. I think that is cowardly! Has it happened more than once? If it has only happened once then you should just deal with it. If it is on going, then you have a choice, deal with it, or be prepared to hurt this woman's feelings. I know there are times of the month where if I use my regular deodorant I will smell myself by the end of the day. When I am hormonal.. it seems to come out everywhere. It got 100% worse when I was going through IVF and did not get better until I went through menopause. So there were times when it caught me completely unaware and I would smell myself and have to try and remedy it.. but it wasn't always possible right away. I can not imagine how mortified I would have been if anyone had pointed it out to me!!
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Post by jenjie on Jun 23, 2016 22:33:22 GMT
It's a mom at vbs and just walking behind her 10 feet outdoors was awful. I don't know her at all. I would want to know if I was stinky. Was it a VBS worker or a mom bringing her kid to VBS? Are you working VBS or dropping your kid off? If a stranger was smelling up the grocery store, would you tell them? As others have said, if you don't know her you don't know if it's a one-off thing where she walked out without deodorant that day. Or it just quit. I do know somebody, a very sweet, kind person, who has body odor in general but I think she sweats a lot all over, not just her pits if you know what I mean. I'm talking sweat on her forehead on a regular day. You can't assume they don't wash or don't try. Unless you know they don't.
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Post by gotranch on Jun 23, 2016 22:35:48 GMT
Maybe you could put together a gift bag with some deodorant and soap with a cute wash rag. Tell you are remaining anonymous because you don't want to embarrass or hurt her feelings. You could leave it in a common area where she will see it. I think that's a horrible idea. How is that not going to be embarrassing and hurtful? And how would you address it, hey stinky, I saw this and thought of you? I agree. This would be horrifying to receive and then on top of it wonder about each person you come in contact with and whether or not they were the one who sent it. Is this an ongoing issue? Or could it be a one time thing? She forgot deodorant, got her period, or didn't use the right soap to cut the smell???
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Post by happiest.raincloud on Jun 23, 2016 22:41:25 GMT
Lurker coming out to say NO, don't say anything! Especially if it's the 1st time you've noticed.
After turning 30 I suddenly became allergic to every mainstream deodorant available. Even the natural brands give me a painful rash. I only use deodorant when I'm going to be around a lot of people (like going to a concert or party) because it takes a week for the rash to go away. Summers are no fun.
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Post by mollycoddle on Jun 23, 2016 22:51:36 GMT
Aside from a medical condition or allergy, I would personally appreciate it if I had BO and someone told me. Of course, you have to take my advice with a grain of salt. I am the kind of person who will tell you if you have a booger in your nose or something in your teeth. Why? Because I would want someone to tell ME. But everyone does not appreciate frankness, although my friends do. But I would of course not say anything unless I knew the person. There are limits to frankness!
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Post by oldcrow on Jun 23, 2016 22:57:46 GMT
Maybe you could put together a gift bag with some deodorant and soap with a cute wash rag. Tell you are remaining anonymous because you don't want to embarrass or hurt her feelings. You could leave it in a common area where she will see it. I hit the like button by mistake. You want her to leave said *gift* in the common area where everyone can see it and put the offender's name on it so she (and everyone else) knows it is for her. Smooooth.
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Post by jenjie on Jun 23, 2016 23:03:00 GMT
Aside from a medical condition or allergy, I would personally appreciate it if I had BO and someone told me. Of course, you have to take my advice with a grain of salt. I am the kind of person who will tell you if you have a booger in your nose or something in your teeth. Why? Because I would want someone to tell ME. But everyone does not appreciate frankness, although my friends do. But I would of course not say anything unless I knew the person. There are limits to frankness! Something in your nose or teeth is something that can be immediately rectified if you know about it. Not so with BO.
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Post by georgiapea on Jun 23, 2016 23:09:12 GMT
Assuming this has happened more than once I'd watch for the car she drives and pop a deodorant stick on it somewhere. Wiper blade, balanced on the car window. Maybe she can't buy any till payday or something.
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Post by mollycoddle on Jun 23, 2016 23:18:32 GMT
Aside from a medical condition or allergy, I would personally appreciate it if I had BO and someone told me. Of course, you have to take my advice with a grain of salt. I am the kind of person who will tell you if you have a booger in your nose or something in your teeth. Why? Because I would want someone to tell ME. But everyone does not appreciate frankness, although my friends do. But I would of course not say anything unless I knew the person. There are limits to frankness! Something in your nose or teeth is something that can be immediately rectified if you know about it. Not so with BO. True, and I would not say anything about BO unless I knew the person really well; well enough to know that there was no medical condition.
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Post by rickmer on Jun 23, 2016 23:23:06 GMT
i have had to. more than once. ugh. i was a recruiter for temp staffing company and occasionally a customer would call and ask me to address it with someone. they always wanted to tell them they were getting a raise, but not this... lol. it was never a fun conversation to have but if handled with kindness and compassion, it can be done nicer when handled certain ways than others.
in this situation, i would say nothing.
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Post by moodyblue on Jun 23, 2016 23:30:11 GMT
Is it body odor or maybe stinky shoes? But, I can't think of any way you could or would want to say something about the odor without embarrassing the woman. And I would feel horrible if I said something and it turns out she does have a medical condition causing the odor. And giving a "gift" of deodorant would be offensive too, especially if she has a problem that isn't easily fixed.
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Post by lisacharlotte on Jun 24, 2016 0:42:42 GMT
I think if the smell is that bad, it's not just forgetting to roll on some deodorant. Either there are hygiene issues or medical issues. She's a stranger, you aren't in charge of VBS, I wouldn't say anything.
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Post by annabella on Jun 24, 2016 0:59:30 GMT
I bet she switched to natural deodorant and doesn't live with another adult to tell her. I would buy her some CertianDri or Clinical Protection Dove. Pull her aside privately and be super nice about it and let her know those deodorants need to be applied at night. Oh wait, first ask her if everything is ok at home, ask if she has running water. You never know maybe a pipe burst in the winter and she didn't have the money to fix it. Then give her the deodorant.
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Post by Spongemom Scrappants on Jun 24, 2016 1:00:55 GMT
In the situation described, I'd chew my own arm off before I'd say anything to that woman.
I certainly would not leave her an "anonymous" note.
If it were a family member, very close friend, or someone I had to be honest with due to work... I'd do it. Reluctantly.
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Post by annabella on Jun 24, 2016 1:04:58 GMT
I see the suggestion of the anonymous note, I think that's a good idea. But find a way to throw it in her purse maybe if she walks away from it for a minute. I can't remember where, but I've heard of someone doing this, maybe at work? I think she's not showering daily and not using a strong deodorant. And if no one tells her, how awful to continue on like that. Someone has to tell her and it may stink less if she doesn't know who told her. Either way, write the note with "kindness and compassion" as suggested. Don't pass this job on to the head of vbs, they will probably coward out like most people in this thread.
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Post by hollymolly on Jun 24, 2016 1:14:45 GMT
Those of you who would want to know: Do you really think you wouldn't know if your BO was that strong? If someone did say something to you, what would you do? Right there, in that situation, in a public place that you couldn't easily leave, what would you do?
My hormone therapy includes testosterone, and from about week 2 through week 4 of my 3 month dose, I smell like a teenage boy. For years, Degree has been my go-to never fail deodorant for when I know I'm going to need to step up my deodorant game. But during those weeks, even Degree fails by about midday. I scrub and scrub in the shower and can still smell a faint testosterone stink. I have to break out the clinical strength Secret, it's the only thing that works. It really took me by surprise the first time it happened. I would have been humiliated if I'd been out in public and a stranger said something.
Please just let it go. She knows already and you will humiliate her, or she knows already and doesn't care. Either way, no good will come of it. Tell someone about food in their teeth or a booger hanging out of their nose or toilet paper stuck to their waist band. Don't tell them they smell bad.
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Post by annabella on Jun 24, 2016 1:21:28 GMT
Those of you who would want to know: Do you really think you wouldn't know if your BO was that strong? If someone did say something to you, what would you do? Right there, in that situation, in a public place that you couldn't easily leave, what would you do? No I can't smell myself after the gym even though I'm covered in sweat, nor do I smell my breath in the morning, I can only smell my shoes. My friend married a Cameroonian man last year and he had his local priest marry him. At the rehearsal the day before the wedding the priest stunk so bad I said to my friend that her fiance needs to say something to the priest. She said that the priest's wife and kids smell too. Perhaps they don't wear deodorant or shower daily, but obviously they all don't smell each other. Her fiance said something to the priest and the next day I could not smell him. We're not talking about stopping a stranger in a parking lot, this is a woman she sees regularly and is part of her community.
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Post by hollymolly on Jun 24, 2016 1:46:13 GMT
No I can't smell myself after the gym even though I'm covered in sweat, nor do I smell my breath in the morning, I can only smell my shoes. But what would you do if you were at an event and someone told you that you smelled bad? I'm not trying to argue a point, I'm genuinely curious about what people do in those situations. I tend to freeze up and all I want to do is slink away and crawl under a rock forever, so I always think that's how everyone else would react. I know not everyone is as sensitive as I am, but I can't imagine making someone feel the way that would make me feel. So to the people who would want to know, I'm sorry, I'm not going to tell you. ETA I really do want to know how that works. I admire people who handle things well and don't get upset the way I do.
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Post by jenjie on Jun 24, 2016 1:50:57 GMT
We're not talking about stopping a stranger in a parking lot, this is a woman she sees regularly and is part of her community. She hasn't clarified that at all. She said it's somebody she doesn't know in an environment where many of the people don't know each other. VBS is an outreach for children in the community. Parents drop their kids off and pick them up after. It lasts for one week. We don't know if either the OP, the stinker or both attend the church, are VBS Workers, are dropping their kids off or some kind of combination. ETA I sound way more invested in this than I actually am. I don't mean to sound rude.
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Post by Deleted on Jun 24, 2016 1:54:37 GMT
I've drawn the short straw twice and had to have this discussion with two different colleagues. Both people acknowledged it but denied that it was that bad. Both refused to do anything about it. One of them told me she'd been told by other people before, but she just didn't think it was such a big deal. That one was really awkward because she was interviewing for jobs and I was telling her in the hopes that she'd remedy the situation to be considered for good positions. She didn't, she wasn't, and though she has a master's degree in science and is a very talented researcher, she's still unemployed as far as I know. I think there are kind, diplomatic ways to let people know about this when there is a real need - i.e., a young person who may not know, or to help someone be competitive in interviews - but IME, they already know and either can't or won't fix it. I won't bother putting myself through one of those conversations again!
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Post by txdancermom on Jun 24, 2016 2:02:57 GMT
a good friend of ours was a college professor that worked with a lot of students from other countries/cultures, who didn't always have the same level of hygiene that most of us have, and also ate a large amount of garlic and other foods that contributed to it. she would have a session every year where she would go over hygiene "rules" so that if the students wanted to get internships/jobs what they needed to do to improve their body odors. Most had no idea that they had BO because everyone they were around smelled the same and to them was "normal"
In your case if she is part of a VBS, is there a minister or leader who might know her and be able to tell her?
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Post by ktdoesntscrap on Jun 24, 2016 2:07:35 GMT
I bet she switched to natural deodorant and doesn't live with another adult to tell her. I would buy her some CertianDri or Clinical Protection Dove. Pull her aside privately and be super nice about it and let her know those deodorants need to be applied at night. Oh wait, first ask her if everything is ok at home, ask if she has running water. You never know maybe a pipe burst in the winter and she didn't have the money to fix it. Then give her the deodorant. I can not imagine. Someone coming up and asking me if I had running water and then giving me a deodorant. Far better to do it face to face than some anonymous deodorant on the car. But really it is no one's business. If she was a friend, then tell her, but a stranger? Not your place.
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Post by anxiousmom on Jun 24, 2016 2:26:37 GMT
If someone I didn't know told me that I had offensive body odor, I would be so mortified that not only would I not show my face at that particular church again (not exactly what vbs programs are going for) but I would likely hide in my house for a while. Stinky is a kind of known quantity around my state. It's hot. It is hot and humid and particularly for people who are not used to it, their bodies have a really hard time keeping up. Ever been to Disney in August? Your olfactory sense is assaulted at every turn. Not only different cultural norms about natural body scents, but just normal people who are overwhelmed by just how sweaty it can be. Even those of us who are acclimated to it can have off days, days where your hormones just go apeshit and you can spray yourself from top to bottom with heavy duty deodorant and you still don't come home smelling like a rose at the end of the day. And...not to be deliberately gross, but most people only use deodorant under their arms...but down here that isn't the only area that gets hot and sweaty and stinky. So all that to say, I would likely keep my counsel to myself and as my grandmother always said 'tend to my own knitting.'
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Post by crimsoncat05 on Jun 24, 2016 2:28:11 GMT
The OP does NOT know this woman. At all!! I honestly cannot believe that some of you are actually suggesting to anonymously put a deodorant under the windshield wiper on her car, have a discussion about her financial situation, give her a 'gift' of deodorant, or *secretly* toss a deodorant into her purse. Really?!? How would YOU feel if a stranger did that to YOU ? ? ? Can you HONESTLY SAY that you wouldn't be offended and/or embarrassed by that?!?!? Really?!? OP, if you've never seen her before, never met her officially, and probably won't ever see her again, then just LET IT GO.
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Post by Lexica on Jun 24, 2016 2:43:09 GMT
I couldn't do it. I would feel so rude and invasive. I did work where we had a male coworker who smelled awful. I doubt he bathed more than weekly. I didn't have to sit near him, but I did learn to hold my breath if I needed to walk by his cubicle.
I guess one morning several people who did sit near him planned an intervention-type thing and they all brought in deodorant, mouthwash, bars of strong soap, toothpaste, etc. They put it all on his desk and put a note on top that just said, "Please!" I didn't see it, I heard about it after the fact. I was embarrassed for the man. I don't know if he used them or not. I never got over my habit of holding my breath, just in case.
I think in a case of an employee, then HR needs to have a talk with them. My friend in HR has had to talk to employees about their hygiene and with one girl, her slutty wardrobe. It was her job and she did it as professionally as she could, but she didn't enjoy it.
For someone I didn't know at all, I would just make it a point to avoid being in their proximity. And since their only contact is passing by her at VBS, I would think it would be an easy thing to keep your distance.
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Post by bluepoprocks on Jun 24, 2016 2:52:19 GMT
I had a teacher in high school who always had sweaty smelly armpits. Every year several students would give him deodorant and soap as Christmas gifts. I always thought it was really rude and I'm sure he was embarrassed. He obviously knew he had a problem with sweating and I'm thinking he had no way to control it.
I also worked with a guy who had awful BO and always looked kind of greasy. We worked at a store so he had contact with customers all the time. Finally a manager took him aside and talked to him about it. He told him that he was aware of it and had been to a doctor about it, showered several times a day, and used prescription deodorant but nothing worked.
I wouldn't say anything because I wouldn't want to embarrass her.
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