sweetpeasmom
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Post by sweetpeasmom on Aug 6, 2014 3:03:09 GMT
I don't have issue with communal supplies. Even if I have sent it in for my child, I am sure there are times when he/she has needed to use something from the communal supplies. I won't send in the Ticonderoga for the class. I do have them here at home and they can take them in their bag if they choose. But I won't supply the class with 48 of them. I do buy Crayola markers and crayons for the classroom though.
I also put my child's name on the folders and notebooks. They pick out specific ones they want, they should be ensured they get that one for their use.
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Post by lesleyanne on Aug 6, 2014 3:05:17 GMT
You will love it! People think I'm crazy when I say it, but it truly has changed my life. Btw, if it gets a little slow and the pencils seem like the lead is loose, it probably needs a replacement blade. I replace my blade a couple of times a year and it's good as new! BEST sharpener ever!!! I love that you found a sharpener that works! I'm so sad that they don't ship internationally except through ebay, and that literally doubles the cost of that little sharpener. My biggest classroom pet peeve is pencils: how they always disappear and I've never found "the one" sharpener to rule them all!
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Post by andreasmom on Aug 6, 2014 3:15:04 GMT
80 is way too many. Seriously. Why can't we ask our children to take care of a pencil more than two days? While I agree with communal supplies to a degree, i would also expect 5th graders to have enough maturity to take care of a pencil.
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Post by tidegirl on Aug 6, 2014 3:34:03 GMT
I have a light blue sharpener from classroomfriendlysupplies.com. It is a revolutionary tool in the classroom. I plan on buying a 2nd one (most likely pink because we are buying in bulk) for the start of the new year. I truly love that machine and will brag from here to the moon about it. I prefer Ticonderoga pencils but I do not request them. All of the pencils I purchase for the class are Ticonderoga. I will validate you that 80 sharpened pencils may be excessive (especially in 5th grade.)
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tiffanytwisted
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Post by tiffanytwisted on Aug 6, 2014 3:38:20 GMT
Slight hijack
Our school does this w/8th grade t-shirts that have the entire grade's signatures & w/8th grade yearbooks. I found out because my little angel forgot to bring home the forms. He showed up at the end of the year w/a t-shirt & a yearbook. Hmmmm . . . I don't remember filling out those forms. Looked in my checkbook, and indeed I hadn't. I was mortified! Called the school & sent in the checks. When I was sharing my horror w/a friend, she told me there are a few parents who do what you described - purposely don't pay because they know their kid will get them anyway.
I don't mind sending in extra supplies for those truly in need, but that kind of stuff really pisses me off, especially because a t-shirt or yearbook isn't a necessity.
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Post by Miss Lerins Momma on Aug 6, 2014 3:43:44 GMT
Both of my kids needed 24 pencils, not specified if they needed to be sharpened or not. I sent them both in with 2-24 packs each, so double the requested. They are in Kindergarten and 4th grade, I can't image them going through 80!!!
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Post by theboydbunch on Aug 6, 2014 4:06:02 GMT
I'm not a parent, but if I had kids, I wouldn't mind sending extra supplies. A 96 pack of Ticonderogas cost 15.02 on Amazon. Thanks! That's good to know! Headed there to purchase some to be reimbursed with PTA money we get for school supplies. I'd rather use my money on this than other things
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NoWomanNoCry
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Post by NoWomanNoCry on Aug 6, 2014 4:13:03 GMT
I remember when I was in school if we borrowed a pencil from the teacher or if she let us just have one we had to give her money. If it was just borrowing we got the money back but if we kept it we didn't.
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Post by theboydbunch on Aug 6, 2014 4:14:17 GMT
I think we're in agreement that 80 seems excessive, but, if a child is required to bring in say, 5 pencils, and there are no "community" or extra classroom pencils, what happens when he loses them and doesn't have any to use that day? I know, if I don't keep my own classroom personally stocked with extras that I buy at BTS sales, some kids would be SOL. This also applies to crayons, scissors and glue sticks. I don't expect other parents to buy supplies to make up for the short-comings from kids not bringing in basic supplies. I know there are good-hearted people out there that do this because they want to and I am grateful to them. It does bother me when I'm out running around like crazy hitting BTS sales to buy 25 cent boxes of crayons and scissors for my classroom, and some kids come in with none...expecting to be given them by "the school supply fairy" I guess?! Unless there are special circumstances and the school will assist in these cases and help with supplies, I think parents can make an effort to buy 2 glue sticks, some pencils and a box of crayons and scissors.. Sorry for the sidebar rant...I know this wasn't the case here...
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Post by theboydbunch on Aug 6, 2014 4:16:41 GMT
I remember when I was in school if we borrowed a pencil from the teacher or if she let us just have one we had to give her money. If it was just borrowing we got the money back but if we kept it we didn't. Sometimes, when all my pencils continue to disappear, I have the kids leave a shoe...
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Post by freecharlie on Aug 6, 2014 4:37:13 GMT
I think we're in agreement that 80 seems excessive, but, if a child is required to bring in say, 5 pencils, and there are no "community" or extra classroom pencils, what happens when he loses them and doesn't have any to use that day? I know, if I don't keep my own classroom personally stocked with extras that I buy at BTS sales, some kids would be SOL. This also applies to crayons, scissors and glue sticks. I don't expect other parents to buy supplies to make up for the short-comings from kids not bringing in basic supplies. I know there are good-hearted people out there that do this because they want to and I am grateful to them. It does bother me when I'm out running around like crazy hitting BTS sales to buy 25 cent boxes of crayons and scissors for my classroom, and some kids come in with none...expecting to be given them by "the school supply fairy" I guess?! Unless there are special circumstances and the school will assist in these cases and help with supplies, I think parents can make an effort to buy 2 glue sticks, some pencils and a box of crayons and scissors.. Sorry for the sidebar rant...I know this wasn't the case here... I don't have a problem with buying a little extra or even communal supplies when it is logical. I do buy one box of crayons. Hell, I'll buy two so that my kid can have new ones in January, but I have a friend who has 5 boxes on a kindergarten supply list. That is excessive IMO. I'll send in 24-48 pencils. Heck, the 80 pencils might not have caught my eye if they hadn't wanted me to sharpen them, though I think it may have.
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Post by farmdpea on Aug 6, 2014 13:55:10 GMT
Is it wrong that I am sad that I don't have school school age kids anymore I wish I could share in your vents today lol. I don't have kids, but I love shopping for school supplies. I have an aunt who teaches elementary school, so I bought the supplies for one child using the school's list. I hope it helps her cover for some of the parents who won't/can't send in supplies for their kid.
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Post by Merge on Aug 6, 2014 13:58:18 GMT
I always wonder - if the amount of supplies requested seems excessive, what is it that you think the teacher is doing with all the "extra" supplies? Selling them on eBay? Trading them for drugs? I mean, seriously. You trust these people to keep your child safe every day and educate them, but you don't trust them to know how many pencils their class goes through in a year? ETA: Here's a really good deal on Ticonderoga pencils. 192 for $30. This person seems to be selling a lot of office supplies - maybe he/she is really a teacher fencing extra pencils contributed by all those duped parents.
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Post by Deleted on Aug 6, 2014 14:00:54 GMT
I think parents can make an effort to buy 2 glue sticks, some pencils and a box of crayons and scissors. I don't disagree but also don't feel it's right that the teacher has pricing expectations that not all families can meet.
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Post by freecharlie on Aug 6, 2014 14:05:33 GMT
I always wonder - if the amount of supplies requested seems excessive, what is it that you think the teacher is doing with all the "extra" supplies? Selling them on eBay? Trading them for drugs? I mean, seriously. You trust these people to keep your child safe every day and educate them, but you don't trust them to know how many pencils their class goes through in a year? I think they get stored in a closet somewhere and left for the next teacher in the room or given to other classes or schools. At least that is what I have seen done.
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Post by Merge on Aug 6, 2014 14:09:00 GMT
I always wonder - if the amount of supplies requested seems excessive, what is it that you think the teacher is doing with all the "extra" supplies? Selling them on eBay? Trading them for drugs? I mean, seriously. You trust these people to keep your child safe every day and educate them, but you don't trust them to know how many pencils their class goes through in a year? I think they get stored in a closet somewhere and left for the next teacher in the room or given to other classes or schools. At least that is what I have seen done. Huh. At my school, we're always out of pencils by testing time in April. I've never seen extras stored anywhere.
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Just T
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Post by Just T on Aug 6, 2014 14:17:43 GMT
That's just great. However, keep in mind that not everyone has only one kid...many parents have several kids and deal with multiple school supply lists. So maybe one $15 pack of pencils isn't a big deal to send in extra. But what about all the other supplies? I have 4 kids, and while I now only have one in school, I used to spend soooooo much money on supplies. And the time to run around to different stores because one teacher requested a color of folder that couldn't be found anywhere. I remember one year, I dumped all of their supplies on the floor in our family room, and the size of the pile was astounding. So yeah, while it sounds really wonderful to say "I wouldn't mind sending extra supplies" it's not always that simple or easy. It's also VERY frustrating when you buy the specific brand asked for for your own kids, such as Crayola crayons, only to have them go into a classroom stash, and then YOUR child comes home with a box of crappy dollar store crayons that they pulled out of the classroom stash when they needed new ones. I have bought Ticonderoga pencils for my kids, but I did not send them all to school. I doled them out to my kids at home, and I don't see anything wrong with that.
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Post by alibama on Aug 6, 2014 14:20:29 GMT
Is it wrong that I am sad that I don't have school school age kids anymore I wish I could share in your vents today lol. I don't have kids, but I love shopping for school supplies. I have an aunt who teaches elementary school, so I bought the supplies for one child using the school's list. I hope it helps her cover for some of the parents who won't/can't send in supplies for their kid. You know that is a fantastic idea. My daughter is a third grade teacher this year. I should do the same. She teaches in a lower income school too so that should help her. Thanks for the great idea!
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Post by melanell on Aug 6, 2014 15:00:40 GMT
My daughter can go through a brand new pencil in half an hour of homework. She's 8, and it seems like somehow the way she writes (high pressure, and something about the angle) makes the point break off all but immediately. She also likes them super-sharp. The Ticonderogas are better, but still not miracles. So for US, sending in 80 might not be enough! DS is like this. He loves to write & draw and he like his pencils super sharp (I do too, so I completely understand.), but he keeps a death grip on his pencils. I'm always trying to explain to him that if he changes his grip he wouldn't draw/write so dark all of the time, too. Because he writes so dark every mistake takes 3x the effort to erase, so we got through erasers like mad as well. But in his case he'll use a pencil down to a stub before he'll finally toss it.
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Post by melanell on Aug 6, 2014 15:02:06 GMT
Our school list just says "pencils". You decide everything else about them. It cracks me up that they are even on a list. I mean aren't pencils a given?
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MerryMom
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Post by MerryMom on Aug 6, 2014 15:48:38 GMT
At my son's school, the only time that there were communal supplies was in kindergarten. After that, you put your stuff in a pencil box which was kept at your cubby,
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Post by alibama on Aug 6, 2014 17:32:50 GMT
I have to be honest I here. I had to look up a Ticonderoga Pencil. Never heard of it before. What is so special about it. I use regular pencils at work everyday all day long so if they are that special I might have to buy some
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Post by 3dcrafter on Aug 6, 2014 17:35:48 GMT
I always wonder - if the amount of supplies requested seems excessive, what is it that you think the teacher is doing with all the "extra" supplies? Selling them on eBay? Trading them for drugs? I mean, seriously. You trust these people to keep your child safe every day and educate them, but you don't trust them to know how many pencils their class goes through in a year? ETA: Here's a really good deal on Ticonderoga pencils. 192 for $30. This person seems to be selling a lot of office supplies - maybe he/she is really a teacher fencing extra pencils contributed by all those duped parents. With all due respect I have always volunteered in my kid's classes and there are indeed teachers who do hoard supplies;just to make this clear NOT ALL TEACHERS DO THIS, but there are some that do. When my oldest was in Kindergarten her teacher had a closet full of ziplock baggies, crayons, and pencils, etc. (bought in by the students...and not supplied by her or the school) which I didn't think all that much about until the middle of the school year when she had the nerve to request that parents send in more of these exact items. I spoke to her and told her point blank I wasn't sending in ANYTHING since we had a closet full and that we ought to be using what was there. Thankfully she retracted her request to the rest of the parents (probably more due to saving face than anything else). I'm sorry, but I'm not sending more money on supplies for them just to be stowed away and collected.
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Post by LavenderLayoutLady on Aug 6, 2014 17:48:45 GMT
I always wonder - if the amount of supplies requested seems excessive, what is it that you think the teacher is doing with all the "extra" supplies? Selling them on eBay? Trading them for drugs? I mean, seriously. You trust these people to keep your child safe every day and educate them, but you don't trust them to know how many pencils their class goes through in a year? ETA: Here's a really good deal on Ticonderoga pencils. 192 for $30. This person seems to be selling a lot of office supplies - maybe he/she is really a teacher fencing extra pencils contributed by all those duped parents. Funny you should ask this. Two years ago, my youngest dd's teacher was caught by quite a few parents & the asst. principal taking home the unused boxes of tissues, hand sanitizer, hand soap, and paper towels on the last day of school. Just absolutely loading up the back of her car! When she was asked on the spot, "Shouldn't you leave them for next year?" She shrugged and said, "The parents next year need to bring them in for their kids." Funny enough, she didn't teach at that school the next school year.
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Post by theboydbunch on Aug 6, 2014 18:47:26 GMT
I didn't mount mine, but it does come with a little clamp to mount if you want. I up find it easy to just put my left hand on top of it and crank with my right hand. You do not have to hold the pencil because the sharpener grips it. Are you the only one who uses it or do you allow your students? I have 3 in my classroom. I begin the year that it's only teacher and/or adult (volunteer) use because we have other sharpeners in the room. As the year progresses, I teach a group a students at a time how to use it. Part of their arrival routine is to make sure they have 2 pencils sharpened each morning
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Post by wholarmor on Aug 6, 2014 18:50:58 GMT
I recall a thread asking about school supplies, and someone mentioned they saw a teacher selling supplies at a yard sale, lol.
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Post by anxiousmom on Aug 6, 2014 18:57:55 GMT
I'm not a parent, but if I had kids, I wouldn't mind sending extra supplies. A 96 pack of Ticonderogas cost 15.02 on Amazon. I'm fortunate in that I don't have to stress about the expense of school supplies. But I am absolutely sensitive to the fact that the $187 per child I spent for the list my kids' school sent is a burden on many families. I would guess that over the years, the average costs for supplies were between $100-125/child for school supplies and that would not count clothing/shoes or things like extra costs like lunch accounts and the like. It *can* be a burden, if for no other reason than all the costs are bunched up in one very short period of time and can't be spread out over time. If it were *just* $15 pencils I would dance naked in the streets.
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Post by theboydbunch on Aug 6, 2014 18:58:57 GMT
I always wonder - if the amount of supplies requested seems excessive, what is it that you think the teacher is doing with all the "extra" supplies? Selling them on eBay? Trading them for drugs? I mean, seriously. You trust these people to keep your child safe every day and educate them, but you don't trust them to know how many pencils their class goes through in a year? ETA: Here's a really good deal on Ticonderoga pencils. 192 for $30. This person seems to be selling a lot of office supplies - maybe he/she is really a teacher fencing extra pencils contributed by all those duped parents. Funny you should ask this. Two years ago, my youngest dd's teacher was caught by quite a few parents & the asst. principal taking home the unused boxes of tissues, hand sanitizer, hand soap, and paper towels on the last day of school. Just absolutely loading up the back of her car! When she was asked on the spot, "Shouldn't you leave them for next year?" She shrugged and said, "The parents next year need to bring them in for their kids." Funny enough, she didn't teach at that school the next school year. I'd hope this is not the norm! At my school hand sanitizer and baggies are "optional" on the supply list, not mandatory; so I end up buying a lot of these myself.
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Post by 950nancy on Aug 6, 2014 19:50:14 GMT
Our PTO uses a company that sells the supplies in a kit for each grade level. The kids ate offered for less than $25. It includes everything on the supply list. If I have extras of things at the end of the year I share with the teachers that don't have regular classrooms. There are a lot of these teachers.
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Post by theboydbunch on Aug 6, 2014 19:52:45 GMT
I will often share a box of tissues, another optional item on our supply lists, which special area teachers, because they have to buy their own, and kids need to blow their noses in Library, too
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