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Post by gryroagain on Aug 5, 2014 18:15:58 GMT
This is the first year I haven't given it to my 13 year old lab. Stopped flea and tick stuff,too. Last summer when tested she had Lyme, after all the years and thousands of dollars spent on preventatives! It was treated and she tested negative, but it can come back or she can get a positive result and not have it from now on- I haven't given it much thought at her age. She mostly goes out just to pee, is too arthritic these days for more than an around the block walk, so this year I just stopped buying it. No fleas or ticks, and she just had a heart worm test, negative. I will be surprised if she lives to next summer but if she does, I won't put her back on it.
My 16 year old cat has never been on any flea or heart worm preventative- she had a bad reaction as a kitten and can't have it. Seizures, lost her hair. So for 16 years she has been indoor- outdoor, but knock on wood never had heart worm (we do test her occasionally). She has had a few fleas, she is white so they are easy to see and give her capstar to kill them- maybe 3 times in her long life I have done that.
I hope this doesn't keep you from getting the dog, but you certainly aren't the only one who doesn't always do all the preventatives. We only adopt our pets, and I have never had a problem going through the humane society- less hoops than rescues. It might take a bit longer for a specific breed to come in, but they all eventually do and you can leave what you are looking for with them and when it comes in, they will call. County pounds, too. You can call a bunch in your area and let them know to call you when a certain kind of dog comes in, though they do euthanize out of necessity, they are just as motivated as rescues to get dogs adopted. More maybe- we move often and the fence requirements and reference checks for some rescues are such we would never pass.
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Post by GiantsFan on Aug 5, 2014 18:16:25 GMT
We did when they were young and before they got to the point where they would have a hard time surviving the treatment. Our vet was actually the one who suggested we just give the Heartguard without testing.
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Post by peano on Aug 5, 2014 19:19:05 GMT
Posie gets tested annually for heartworm and takes Heartgard. She originally took it for 6 months, but my vet recommends it year-round even in Connecticut because it also helps eradicate intestinal parasites, and Posie is an enthusiastic deer-poo eater (if I'm completely honest, she's really an omni-poo eater)
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Post by sharlag on Aug 5, 2014 19:21:08 GMT
Posie gets tested annually for heartworm and takes Heartgard. She originally took it for 6 months, but my vet recommends it year-round even in Connecticut because it also helps eradicate intestinal parasites, and Posie is an enthusiastic deer-poo eater (if I'm completely honest, she's really an omni-poo eater) What a cute name: POSIE!
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Post by linda~lou on Aug 5, 2014 19:42:18 GMT
Thank you all so much for all the info. You guys beat google any day. I haven't heard from the shelter. It's ok, it was probably not meant to be. Holly is getting up there, blind and sleeps all day. She's 14 and other than her blindness, she is fine, but another dog may stress her out. Abby is 8, and way more active and would probably love another playmate, but I think I will wait before I get another. This little shih tzu at the shelter was so stinkin' cute though. I hope he finds a good home.
Sometime adopting from a shelter is so hard, I understand they want them in good homes, but at times they are a bit anal. I have a fenced in yard, a doggie door, I'm home all day I have a friend that takes care of them if I do go on vacation, I would think all that would be better than having a dog sit in a cage.
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Post by Dani-Mani on Aug 5, 2014 19:55:33 GMT
Heavens yes!
I'm a HUGE proponent of preventative care, for humans and animals. I don't undeerstand waiting to see if I (or my dog) gets something when it can be prevented in the first place.
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Post by peano on Aug 5, 2014 20:20:32 GMT
Posie gets tested annually for heartworm and takes Heartgard. She originally took it for 6 months, but my vet recommends it year-round even in Connecticut because it also helps eradicate intestinal parasites, and Posie is an enthusiastic deer-poo eater (if I'm completely honest, she's really an omni-poo eater) What a cute name: POSIE! Thanks! Her middle name is Sue.
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Post by Basket1lady on Aug 5, 2014 20:20:44 GMT
We give Heartguard year round and test yearly. Some vets say that if you give Heartguard year round, you don't need to test yearly. But Virginia requires a yearly test, so we do it. But not every state requires a yearly test if the dog is on a preventative year round.
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Post by 950nancy on Aug 5, 2014 20:26:06 GMT
We take the medicine monthly, but do checks every other year. We have very few bugs /mosquitos.
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Post by Deleted on Aug 5, 2014 20:28:39 GMT
We live in New England-Tucker is tested every year and is on preventative. He will be 8 in October, and I HATE giving him these kinds of things the older he gets, but I think the risk of not giving them to him is one I am not ready to take, since he is still outdoors a lot year round. Next year I may feel differently, but for now we will continue to give it to him. I'm in New England too. I was just talking to my vet about this, and she's been seeing quite a bit of heartworm in the last two years. I'm glad I've kept up with it. I didn't realize it was so prevalent around here.
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Post by samcro on Aug 5, 2014 21:05:40 GMT
Here they insist on the test before they will even give you the preventive. I'd love to know what brand you can get a six month dose of for $45!
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Post by phdscrap on Aug 5, 2014 21:11:54 GMT
since I am in Texas, there is no question! We have all 3 dogs on preventative and get them checked annually.
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Post by yoursweetwhimsy on Aug 5, 2014 21:17:21 GMT
I work with a dog rescue and so many dogs are turned into shelters because their owners could not afford the heart worm treatment. It is really expensive and horrible treatment for the dog so most of the dogs with it at shelters get put down unless a rescue wants to come in and pay for the treatment while watching this dog suffer through it. It is maddening! The preventative is not terribly cheap but so worth the piece of mind that you are keeping your dog from months of suffering.
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Post by Basket1lady on Aug 6, 2014 0:46:11 GMT
Here they insist on the test before they will even give you the preventive. I'd love to know what brand you can get a six month dose of for $45! 1-800-PetMeds has it for under $45 for a six month supply for two dosages and free shipping for the two larger dosages. It's $32.39 for 0-25 lbs, $41.30 for 26-50 lbs and $49.49 for 51-100 lbs. I used them frequently for years with our medically fragile golden lab and never had a single problem with them. I had a shipment delayed in the mail once and they overnighted another package for no additional cost. But then, I spent a ton of money there every month!
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Post by linda~lou on Aug 6, 2014 0:53:21 GMT
Here they insist on the test before they will even give you the preventive. I'd love to know what brand you can get a six month dose of for $45! 1-800-PetMeds has it for under $45 for a six month supply for two dosages and free shipping for the two larger dosages. It's $32.39 for 0-25 lbs, $41.30 for 26-50 lbs and $49.49 for 51-100 lbs. I used them frequently for years with our medically fragile golden lab and never had a single problem with them. I had a shipment delayed in the mail once and they overnighted another package for no additional cost. But then, I spent a ton of money there every month! You have to have a vet rx though to purchase, correct?
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Post by Basket1lady on Aug 6, 2014 1:06:55 GMT
I believe so. There is a place to request a prescription from your vet during the checkout process. Your pet will need to have been seen the the past 12 months for your vet to write a prescription.
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Post by blue tulip on Aug 6, 2014 1:14:04 GMT
neither of our dogs are on it. we used to give it for 6 mos late spring thru early fall, but then just kinda fell away from it. it rubs me the wrong way to spend all the money on preventative and then still have to get a yearly test, even if they've been taking it constantly. if the preventative works, then I don't need a test to say they are worm free. if it doesn't work, why am I buying it? I guess it's not 100%? FWIW our dogs are outside for potty and brief playtimes, and not during times when mosquitos are worst like dusk.
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Post by LouWho on Aug 6, 2014 1:52:05 GMT
I don't always keep my dogs on heartworm preventative year round. I live in Colorado and the winters are cold but heartworm has been found sporadically here from imported dogs so I may change that. For those of you with long nosed breeds (I have shelties) and are concerned about Ivermectin based preventative you can have your dogs tested for the MDR1 drug sensitivities. Washington State University College of Veterinary Medicine developed a test that your vet can do from a blood test OR you can order a cheek swab kit and do it your self at home. It's 70.00 for the at home test but I broke down and tested both of my shelties (a breed known to have issues with ivermectin) when I could no longer buy interceptor (non ivermectin) based heartworm preventative. www.vetmed.wsu.edu/depts-vcpl/
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Post by linda~lou on Aug 6, 2014 2:04:21 GMT
I don't always keep my dogs on heartworm preventative year round. I live in Colorado and the winters are cold but heartworm has been found sporadically here from imported dogs so I may change that. For those of you with long nosed breeds (I have shelties) and are concerned about Ivermectin based preventative you can have your dogs tested for the MDR1 drug sensitivities. Washington State University College of Veterinary Medicine developed a test that your vet can do from a blood test OR you can order a cheek swab kit and do it your self at home. It's 70.00 for the at home test but I broke down and tested both of my shelties (a breed known to have issues with ivermectin) when I could no longer buy interceptor (non ivermectin) based heartworm preventative. www.vetmed.wsu.edu/depts-vcpl/ sharlag I wanted to be sure you saw this! Thanks lou!
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Post by YooHoot on Aug 6, 2014 2:12:05 GMT
I do. I've heard the treatment can be crazy expensive.
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Post by originalvanillabean on Aug 6, 2014 2:18:12 GMT
Yes, we do. I am not sure our vet would let us continue being patients if we didn't.
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Post by shevy on Aug 6, 2014 3:03:20 GMT
Yes. He has the shot every year so there's no remembering the pill/chew every month. He's a high energy dog and I can't imagine trying to keep him resting for weeks while being treated.
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Post by crimsoncat05 on Aug 6, 2014 3:14:08 GMT
only read the original post so far, so I apologize in advance for any repeats-
We live in the AZ desert, and contrary to popular belief (and ours, when we first moved here), we DO have mosquitoes, and it doesn't get below freezing in the winter for long enough to kill ALL of them. We have dogs who are mostly indoor dogs, but they do go outside occasionally. So, we do give our dogs heartworm pills all year long, and get them tested every other year. Our vet allows us to sign a waiver every other year to avoid having them tested EVERY year, but in order to get the medication, we have to actually get them tested every other year. If we lived somewhere with a bona fide actual winter, we wouldn't give them the Rx all year long.
With 3 dogs it can get kind of expensive, but having seen what heartworms can do, and hearing about the treatment from an acquaintance (basically, kill the worms before you kill the dog, while you keep the dog quiet for weeks / months so the worms can't dislodge and cause some sort of a clogged blood vessel), I don't mind paying for the preventive Rx and testing (every other year, at least).
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Post by andreasmom on Aug 6, 2014 3:19:24 GMT
We don't. Heartworm is not common here. When we were in heartworm prone areas we did it religiously every year. Better be safe than sorry.
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Post by Deleted on Aug 6, 2014 3:23:23 GMT
I'll own my decisions - when they were young and middle aged, they were on routine preventative and tested regularly. When they got into 'retirement' age (although do labs ever really slow down) I quit the preventative. I really don't remember about testing at that late stage - I didn't specifically seek it out, but if it was included in the annual exam then they were still tested. I kept the shots current.
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Post by BeckyTech on Aug 6, 2014 3:27:55 GMT
Here they insist on the test before they will even give you the preventive. I'd love to know what brand you can get a six month dose of for $45! I believe that's what my vet charges for HeartGuard for the 25-50 lb. range. Something like that. Maybe ~$50. Keep in mind that is for heart worm only, it does not include flea or tick remediation. Here in Colorado, fleas and ticks are only a problem if they are imported from another geographic location (either by your dog or a dog your dog comes into contact with.) Either way, they will die out in the winter. it rubs me the wrong way to spend all the money on preventative and then still have to get a yearly test, even if they've been taking it constantly. if the preventative works, then I don't need a test to say they are worm free. if it doesn't work, why am I buying it? I guess it's not 100%? FWIW our dogs are outside for potty and brief playtimes, and not during times when mosquitos are worst like dusk. You're right, no medicine is 100% and the reason they have to test is because if your dog already has heart worm, giving him/her heart worm medicine will make it ever so much worse.
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Post by worrywart on Aug 6, 2014 4:16:50 GMT
HeartGuard sometimes has mail in rebates. I just got a years supply for $72 plus a $12 mail in rebate which the vet does for us The green box one. I think why they have to test every year is because you don't want to give the medicine to a dog with existing heartworm its dangerous, so it is really precautionary. The treatment is unpleasant, my dog had to spend a week in isolation at the vet and then like 8 weeks in isolation at home. She is so active it was hard to watch her like that!!
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Post by paget on Aug 6, 2014 5:07:50 GMT
My dogs Take the monthly preventive - I never knew there was a test! My vet hasn't mentioned it.
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Post by BuckeyeSandy on Aug 6, 2014 17:21:44 GMT
Yes they get tested, and yes I give preventive year round. Our area (Maryland) has heartworms, it would be foolish and dangerous to NOT protect my dogs from something so preventable.
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Post by giatocj on Aug 6, 2014 18:27:22 GMT
We live in New England-Tucker is tested every year and is on preventative. He will be 8 in October, and I HATE giving him these kinds of things the older he gets, but I think the risk of not giving them to him is one I am not ready to take, since he is still outdoors a lot year round. Next year I may feel differently, but for now we will continue to give it to him. I'm in New England too. I was just talking to my vet about this, and she's been seeing quite a bit of heartworm in the last two years. I'm glad I've kept up with it. I didn't realize it was so prevalent around here. My vet also told us they've seen a higher amount of cases and that definitely was a factor in our decision to keep going with it, in spite of his advancing years. Sadly, he is starting to act a little weird lately and I'm fearful of what could be going on. He sees the vet next week and will probably have a brain scan...the results of that will be a HUGE factor in how we proceed with a lot of things with our boy
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