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Post by tmarschall on Aug 20, 2016 4:52:49 GMT
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Post by shescrafty on Aug 20, 2016 11:27:57 GMT
Are you surprised?
Because I'm not.
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Post by pierkiss on Aug 20, 2016 12:52:42 GMT
I'm shocked! Shocked, I say!
(Heavy on the sarcasm)
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Post by hop2 on Aug 20, 2016 12:52:51 GMT
Poor kid. I feel bad for him. When I was his age it was the Reagan election and I was so excited.  And no I'm not surprised. Wouldnt be surprised if Trump himself asked him to leave.
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Post by Deleted on Aug 20, 2016 13:46:22 GMT
Exactly what I'd expect from Trump and his campaign.
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Post by tmarschall on Aug 20, 2016 13:48:11 GMT
Not truly surprised. But jeez...paranoid much? They should have been thrilled to reach a young non-white voter. But no...he must be a protester. That says a lot for the campaign...nothing new, but wow.
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Post by pyccku on Aug 20, 2016 15:26:55 GMT
If I were this young man, I would ask myself some questions:
1. Why am I the ONLY person with a darker complexion at this rally? 2. Why does the security at this event assume that the ONLY reason someone with a darker complexion would attend this rally is to protest? 3. If all of the other people who look like me are staying far away from this event, and the assumption of the event staff is that I'm here to cause trouble, what does that mean for my support for the person whose event this is?
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Post by Deleted on Aug 20, 2016 16:43:37 GMT
Doesn't surprise me......have you seen the behavior of his supporters at his rallies? It's fucking appalling.
You don't have to look far to see video of these assholes. The hatred, bigotry and ignorance seeps from them....they want to blame someone, anyone for the bad choices they've made in their life and I guess if they are able to see HRC in prison, all people of brown color disappear, a wall built between here and Mexico, make religion mandatory in public school and limit women's reproductive rights, all of their ills will go away.
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Post by Kelpea on Aug 20, 2016 17:33:36 GMT
Caught his interview on TRMS the other night. Sad that his first election is forever marred by his treatment of the security team. He's asking for an apology which he honestly deserves but I doubt he'll receive one. In a lighter note he rocked an Iron Maiden tshirt on the show AND he's no longer voting for Trump.😂
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Post by Deleted on Aug 20, 2016 18:33:13 GMT
Let's see, he was so into Trump that "even his conservative Republican parents, at times, had to say whoa to him". Now, when security believed him to be a trouble maker from previous rallies and asks him to leave and despite the fact that he "realizes Donald Trump himself had nothing to do with this problem" and he's such an "avid Trump fan" who "personally didn't mind his rhetoric and defended it", now he's "suddenly" so against Trump. Somehow I'm having trouble believing he was actually ever a Trump supporter.
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Post by pyccku on Aug 20, 2016 19:24:39 GMT
Let's see, he was so into Trump that "even his conservative Republican parents, at times, had to say whoa to him". Now, when security believed him to be a trouble maker from previous rallies and asks him to leave and despite the fact that he "realizes Donald Trump himself had nothing to do with this problem" and he's such an "avid Trump fan" who "personally didn't mind his rhetoric and defended it", now he's "suddenly" so against Trump. Somehow I'm having trouble believing he was actually ever a Trump supporter. Why? Is there no possibility of a person with darker skin being a Trump supporter? Save
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Post by Nink on Aug 20, 2016 19:27:01 GMT
Doesn't surprise me at all. When a gal holding a "no hate" sign was practically accosted by the crowd and then eventually asked to leave if I remember right. Isn't that a sentiment everyone should get behind?
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Post by Kelpea on Aug 20, 2016 19:49:20 GMT
*shrug* I saw his interview with his dad. Looked pretty legit to me.
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Post by Deleted on Aug 20, 2016 20:34:59 GMT
Let's see, he was so into Trump that "even his conservative Republican parents, at times, had to say whoa to him". Now, when security believed him to be a trouble maker from previous rallies and asks him to leave and despite the fact that he "realizes Donald Trump himself had nothing to do with this problem" and he's such an "avid Trump fan" who "personally didn't mind his rhetoric and defended it", now he's "suddenly" so against Trump. Somehow I'm having trouble believing he was actually ever a Trump supporter. Why? Is there no possibility of a person with darker skin being a Trump supporter? SaveI'm wondering, in all the points I made, that you supposedly read, where you saw anything even hinting at skin color, as the reason I don't find it credible that he was a Trump supporter.
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Post by pyccku on Aug 20, 2016 21:23:52 GMT
So what exactly IS your determination that he probably isn't a Trump supporter? He has conservative Republican parents? He went to a Trump rally? He's an avid Trump fan? He's defended Trump's rhetoric? He's 'suddenly' against Trump?
I could really like someone/something but all it takes is one really bad experience for me to become very vocal about opposing them. For example, if I were maybe removed from the premises as a troublemaker due to my appearance. That would probably turn me against them pretty quickly.
Now, I don't know about your parents. But I have read enough of your past posts to say that you are probably a Trump supporter. Based solely on the fact that you have defended Trump's rhetoric and been very anti-Hillary. It doesn't take much more than that, but I guess you have a better test of determining who is a legit Trump supporter and who isn't.
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Post by Deleted on Aug 20, 2016 21:53:57 GMT
So what exactly IS your determination that he probably isn't a Trump supporter? He has conservative Republican parents? He went to a Trump rally? He's an avid Trump fan? He's defended Trump's rhetoric? He's 'suddenly' against Trump? I could really like someone/something but all it takes is one really bad experience for me to become very vocal about opposing them. For example, if I were maybe removed from the premises as a troublemaker due to my appearance. That would probably turn me against them pretty quickly. Now, I don't know about your parents. But I have read enough of your past posts to say that you are probably a Trump supporter. Based solely on the fact that you have defended Trump's rhetoric and been very anti-Hillary. It doesn't take much more than that, but I guess you have a better test of determining who is a legit Trump supporter and who isn't. A security guard (former FBI) recognized him as a trouble maker from previous rallies (plural). He claims that none of his previous bigoted rhetoric swayed him from being such an avid supporter of Trump. He admits that Trump had nothing to do with him being removed. Despite that, NOW he claims to be against Trump. None of that adds up to "Trump supporter".
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Post by anxiousmom on Aug 20, 2016 22:59:14 GMT
I think what really makes it feel worse (the optics if you will) ((oh, and by the way, the term 'optics' needs to be banned from every single conversation from this point forward)) is that the photos show him being escorted out-he and a woman in a hijab. Just the two of them.
Seems a bit harsh that the two people who most typify the stereotypes that are being discussed the most are the ones being escorted out.
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Post by missmiss on Aug 20, 2016 23:06:30 GMT
So what exactly IS your determination that he probably isn't a Trump supporter? He has conservative Republican parents? He went to a Trump rally? He's an avid Trump fan? He's defended Trump's rhetoric? He's 'suddenly' against Trump? I could really like someone/something but all it takes is one really bad experience for me to become very vocal about opposing them. For example, if I were maybe removed from the premises as a troublemaker due to my appearance. That would probably turn me against them pretty quickly. Now, I don't know about your parents. But I have read enough of your past posts to say that you are probably a Trump supporter. Based solely on the fact that you have defended Trump's rhetoric and been very anti-Hillary. It doesn't take much more than that, but I guess you have a better test of determining who is a legit Trump supporter and who isn't. A security guard (former FBI) recognized him as a trouble maker from previous rallies (plural). He claims that none of his previous bigoted rhetoric swayed him from being such an avid supporter of Trump. He admits that Trump had nothing to do with him being removed. Despite that, NOW he claims to be against Trump. None of that adds up to "Trump supporter". Of course because you know what a true Trump supporter is. Some people could care less about how other people are treated until it is done to them. Trump didn't have anything to do with him being removed point? Can't people change their mind when something happens to them? But hey I could be totally wrong. I like to try and think people are good until they show me otherwise. /sarcasm I bet he is a paid Hillary supporter to get more people to hate Trump. I am sure that is it
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Post by moodyblue on Aug 20, 2016 23:07:12 GMT
So what exactly IS your determination that he probably isn't a Trump supporter? He has conservative Republican parents? He went to a Trump rally? He's an avid Trump fan? He's defended Trump's rhetoric? He's 'suddenly' against Trump? I could really like someone/something but all it takes is one really bad experience for me to become very vocal about opposing them. For example, if I were maybe removed from the premises as a troublemaker due to my appearance. That would probably turn me against them pretty quickly. Now, I don't know about your parents. But I have read enough of your past posts to say that you are probably a Trump supporter. Based solely on the fact that you have defended Trump's rhetoric and been very anti-Hillary. It doesn't take much more than that, but I guess you have a better test of determining who is a legit Trump supporter and who isn't. A security guard (former FBI) recognized him as a trouble maker from previous rallies (plural). He claims that none of his previous bigoted rhetoric swayed him from being such an avid supporter of Trump. He admits that Trump had nothing to do with him being removed. Despite that, NOW he claims to be against Trump. None of that adds up to "Trump supporter". So you believe the security guard but not the young man? Or his parents?
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Post by missmiss on Aug 20, 2016 23:20:40 GMT
A security guard (former FBI) recognized him as a trouble maker from previous rallies (plural). He claims that none of his previous bigoted rhetoric swayed him from being such an avid supporter of Trump. He admits that Trump had nothing to do with him being removed. Despite that, NOW he claims to be against Trump. None of that adds up to "Trump supporter". So you believe the security guard but not the young man? Or his parents? Of course he is (former FBI) they don't lie.
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Post by elaine on Aug 20, 2016 23:50:03 GMT
So you believe the security guard but not the young man? Or his parents? Of course he is (former FBI) they don't lie. Then Hillary didn't do anything criminal because the FBI said so and even wrote a report.
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Post by AmeliaBloomer on Aug 21, 2016 0:10:14 GMT
Interesting. Anybody know about "other race effect"?
Basically, people code features of another person's face differently if the other person is a different race. It can often result in mistaken identiifications, which has been especially problematic in the law enforcememt community and among eye witnesses in court cases.
I'm familial with it because I have a general facial recognition problem, so I read about this stuff, but it's a well-documented human psychological quirk. The research has been verified; further research is concentrating on why/how we code and store facial features of different races.
'Course, maybe Mr. Trump's security guard is ethnically Indian.
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Post by SockMonkey on Aug 21, 2016 0:26:20 GMT
Of course he is (former FBI) they don't lie. Then Hillary didn't do anything criminal because the FBI said so and even wrote a report. Hey, they don't lie. SaveSave
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Post by iamkristinl16 on Aug 21, 2016 0:55:13 GMT
Interesting. Anybody know about "other race effect"? Basically, people code features of another person's face differently if the other person is a different race. It can often result in mistaken identiifications, which has been especially problematic in the law enforcememt community and among eye witnesses in court cases. I'm familial with it because I have a general facial recognition problem, so I read about this stuff, but it's a well-documented human psychological quirk. The research has been verified; further research is concentrating on why/how we code and store facial features of different races. 'Course, maybe Mr. Trump's security guard is ethnically Indian. I remember this from a college class. Also, people tend to think that those from another race look more alike than those from your own race. We are better able to distinguish different characteristics in those who are the same race as us.
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Post by papercrafteradvocate on Aug 21, 2016 0:56:18 GMT
So what exactly IS your determination that he probably isn't a Trump supporter? He has conservative Republican parents? He went to a Trump rally? He's an avid Trump fan? He's defended Trump's rhetoric? He's 'suddenly' against Trump? I could really like someone/something but all it takes is one really bad experience for me to become very vocal about opposing them. For example, if I were maybe removed from the premises as a troublemaker due to my appearance. That would probably turn me against them pretty quickly. Now, I don't know about your parents. But I have read enough of your past posts to say that you are probably a Trump supporter. Based solely on the fact that you have defended Trump's rhetoric and been very anti-Hillary. It doesn't take much more than that, but I guess you have a better test of determining who is a legit Trump supporter and who isn't. A security guard (former FBI) recognized him as a trouble maker from previous rallies (plural). He claims that none of his previous bigoted rhetoric swayed him from being such an avid supporter of Trump. He admits that Trump had nothing to do with him being removed. Despite that, NOW he claims to be against Trump. None of that adds up to "Trump supporter". Another lie. While the security guard said he was a troublemaker from past rallies, the man stated that it was his FIRST rally. So yes, he absolutely was profiled because of his color. There is nothing else but that.
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Post by Merge on Aug 21, 2016 2:22:56 GMT
Let's see, he was so into Trump that "even his conservative Republican parents, at times, had to say whoa to him". Now, when security believed him to be a trouble maker from previous rallies and asks him to leave and despite the fact that he "realizes Donald Trump himself had nothing to do with this problem" and he's such an "avid Trump fan" who "personally didn't mind his rhetoric and defended it", now he's "suddenly" so against Trump. Somehow I'm having trouble believing he was actually ever a Trump supporter. Why? Is there no possibility of a person with darker skin being a Trump supporter? Well, he is polling at 0% with AA voters right now. 
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Post by elaine on Aug 21, 2016 2:31:04 GMT
Why? Is there no possibility of a person with darker skin being a Trump supporter? Well, he is polling at 0% with AA voters right now. Although the man tossed out is an Indian American - so, not AA, but Trump isn't popular with the Indian Americans in my neighborhood, especially those who are Muslim, so he is probably polling less than double digits with them too.
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Post by Merge on Aug 21, 2016 2:36:35 GMT
Well, he is polling at 0% with AA voters right now. Although the man tossed out is an Indian American - so, not AA, but Trump isn't popular with the Indian Americans in my neighborhood, especially those who are Muslim, so he is probably polling less than double digits with them too. Ah, sorry, that's what I get for jumping in without actually reading the article. And before Gia or anyone else jumps all over me - I was being flip with the zero percent comment. Trump polled at zero with AAs in Ohio in a July poll. Not nationally, and not actually "right now." I just thought the zero part was funny.
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Post by tmarschall on Aug 21, 2016 4:24:20 GMT
A security guard (former FBI) recognized him as a trouble maker from previous rallies (plural). He claims that none of his previous bigoted rhetoric swayed him from being such an avid supporter of Trump. He admits that Trump had nothing to do with him being removed. Despite that, NOW he claims to be against Trump. None of that adds up to "Trump supporter". Another lie. While the security guard said he was a troublemaker from past rallies, the man stated that it was his FIRST rally. So yes, he absolutely was profiled because of his color. There is nothing else but that. Exactly.
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Post by Deleted on Aug 21, 2016 17:58:30 GMT
Another lie. While the security guard said he was a troublemaker from past rallies, the man stated that it was his FIRST rally. So yes, he absolutely was profiled because of his color. There is nothing else but that. Exactly. The security guard must be the one lying, because a Trump supporter/protester would never lie. Got it.
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