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Post by anonrefugee on Sept 13, 2016 17:26:09 GMT
ETA this was supposed to be posted on Trump Foundation thread- my page must have flipped. Sorry!
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Post by leftturnonly on Sept 13, 2016 18:30:26 GMT
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Post by lucyg on Sept 13, 2016 19:11:28 GMT
There is very little in there that points directly at Hillary Clinton. There is very little that points to an extraordinary, unusual background to the extremely unfortunate events that occurred in Benghazi. Terrible things do happen in this wicked world of ours, despite the best efforts and/or bungling of officialdom. There is nothing that makes me say, "Oh wow! Hillary is unfit to serve after all!" How you or anyone can see it as some kind of smoking gun is beyond me.
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Post by leftturnonly on Sept 13, 2016 19:48:19 GMT
lucyg - I have a profound ... disappointment ... in Hillary. Our men and women who live and die defending our people and our country deserve someone who appreciates what their sacrifices mean more than what I have seen from her. She is a liability to them. To their welfare. To their sacrifices. To their gains. Don't see it that way? <Shrug> I can't see it any other way. That fate was sealed forever the moment Susan Rice did the Sunday talk show round.
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Post by Deleted on Sept 13, 2016 20:09:54 GMT
Um, the investigation is still underway, so we don't know "what they got". I'm speaking of every other committee and judicial investigation. NOTHING. Since I was responding to: and speaking of the current investigation for perjury and PUBLIC CORRUPTION, your act of switching the point, among other of your issues, makes your response to me invalid.
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Post by papercrafteradvocate on Sept 13, 2016 20:22:35 GMT
It's not a matter of questioning--she's been questioned and put under the microscope more than anyone rise has. Because in her situation, many of the false claims against her have been debunked, no charges were pressed and several committees have found her not to be at fault or guilty of what was being bandied about, and those who are so vehemently against her won't accept it. The playing field is skewed--there are demands put upon her and not for others. I have a sister that rips people off all the time. But as her family we have never pressed charges and she has always denied doing it. So do we just say it's ok and not protect ourselves when she is around because we haven't had her charged? Living in the real world when things don't add up, you do question and protect yourself when around those that show dishonesty. Never said we should not question. The thing is that she has been put in front on congressional committees, investigated, given 30+ years of personal private information out, and has found to either be telling the truth or no charges filed.
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Post by papercrafteradvocate on Sept 13, 2016 20:26:02 GMT
I'm speaking of every other committee and judicial investigation. NOTHING. Since I was responding to: and speaking of the current investigation for perjury and PUBLIC CORRUPTION, your act of switching the point, among other of your issues, makes your response to me invalid. Of course it does sweetie.
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Post by mollycoddle on Sept 13, 2016 21:13:32 GMT
There is very little in there that points directly at Hillary Clinton. There is very little that points to an extraordinary, unusual background to the extremely unfortunate events that occurred in Benghazi. Terrible things do happen in this wicked world of ours, despite the best efforts and/or bungling of officialdom. There is nothing that makes me say, "Oh wow! Hillary is unfit to serve after all!" How you or anyone can see it as some kind of smoking gun is beyond me. I don't get it either. Why, then, did those GOP-led committees fail to find her culpable? They certainly tried.
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Post by lucyg on Sept 13, 2016 21:17:26 GMT
lucyg - I have a profound ... disappointment ... in Hillary. Our men and women who live and die defending our people and our country deserve someone who appreciates what their sacrifices mean more than what I have seen from her. She is a liability to them. To their welfare. To their sacrifices. To their gains. Don't see it that way? <Shrug> I can't see it any other way. That fate was sealed forever the moment Susan Rice did the Sunday talk show round. And to me, it is much ado about nothing. The first story out the door before all the information is in and it didn't change anything. It was subsequently all cleared up. <shrug> I understand we are not going to agree on this. Just out of curiosity, where did you stand on Dick Cheney's office willfully exposing the identity of a CIA agent, destroying her career, and endangering the lives of cooperative foreign nationals all over the world? ETA and then denying it. Over and over again.
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Post by Deleted on Sept 13, 2016 21:31:31 GMT
I honestly think if Hillary Clinton had a reputation for being forthright and if her campaign had come out last week and announced she had pneumonia, then this fainting incident wouldn't have been much of a story at all. I hope she is feeling better soon. Both of these candidates have major personality flaws and truthfulness issues. I'm going to vote for the candidate whose political philosophies most mirrors my own. Hopefully, our system of checks and balances will be strong enough to keep the next President in line.  With all of that. 
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Post by leftturnonly on Sept 13, 2016 23:38:51 GMT
lucyg - I have a profound ... disappointment ... in Hillary. Our men and women who live and die defending our people and our country deserve someone who appreciates what their sacrifices mean more than what I have seen from her. She is a liability to them. To their welfare. To their sacrifices. To their gains. Don't see it that way? <Shrug> I can't see it any other way. That fate was sealed forever the moment Susan Rice did the Sunday talk show round. And to me, it is much ado about nothing. The first story out the door before all the information is in and it didn't change anything. It was subsequently all cleared up. <shrug> I understand we are not going to agree on this. Just out of curiosity, where did you stand on Dick Cheney's office willfully exposing the identity of a CIA agent, destroying her career, and endangering the lives of cooperative foreign nationals all over the world? ETA and then denying it. Over and over again. That's probably a fair question(s) for another day.
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Post by birukitty on Sept 14, 2016 0:06:35 GMT
I don't trust a word out of Hillary's Clinton's mouth or out of the DNC. I will vote for a woman for President this year-but it will be for Jill Stein. As far as Hillary's health goes-I believe she has Parkinson's disease. Too many pieces fit. I saw a video on Facebook and of course now I can't find it (so I can't link it) but it made a lot of sense. It was a medical doctor and the first thing he said was that he wasn't her doctor and that he'd never examined Hillary Clinton, but from looking at the videos available, and from what he knew about Parkinson's disease he then pointed out all of the various symptoms-the coughing fits, the seizures like when the balloons were coming down, even the pneumonia are all common with Parkinson's patients.
Personally it makes sense to me. You are all free to believe what you wish. As a presidential candidate I do not want Hillary Clinton in the White House. It has nothing to do with her health. I don't want Donald Trump either. We have 4 candidates to choose from this year. Four, not just two! A fact so many people seem to forget. We also have Jill Stein of the Green Party who is very much like Bernie Sanders was, and Gary Johnson of the Libertarian Party. As of September 7th, Jill Stein is on the ballot in 44 States and DC with voters in 3 states able to write in. They are still waiting on Rhode Island to verify the petitions. If successful that will mean Jill Stein is on the ballot in 48 states and DC.
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Post by Deleted on Sept 14, 2016 1:20:18 GMT
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I sort of read the "facts" of the Gowdy Republican leaning report on Benghazi posted above. Then I went back and read the Senate Intelligence Report on Benghazi. I posted the link. I think the Senate Intelligence report gives a more realistic account of what led up to, what happened during, and what happened after the attack. And what needed to be fixed. What is missing is the obvious Republican slant that is in the report above. Oh it's in the Senate report but it's not reflected in the "facts" part of the report. It's at the back.
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Post by papercrafteradvocate on Sept 14, 2016 1:37:06 GMT
I don't trust a word out of Hillary's Clinton's mouth or out of the DNC. I will vote for a woman for President this year-but it will be for Jill Stein. As far as Hillary's health goes-I believe she has Parkinson's disease. Too many pieces fit. I saw a video on Facebook and of course now I can't find it (so I can't link it) but it made a lot of sense. It was a medical doctor and the first thing he said was that he wasn't her doctor and that he'd never examined Hillary Clinton, but from looking at the videos available, and from what he knew about Parkinson's disease he then pointed out all of the various symptoms-the coughing fits, the seizures like when the balloons were coming down, even the pneumonia are all common with Parkinson's patients. Personally it makes sense to me. You are all free to believe what you wish. As a presidential candidate I do not want Hillary Clinton in the White House. It has nothing to do with her health. I don't want Donald Trump either. We have 4 candidates to choose from this year. Four, not just two! A fact so many people seem to forget. We also have Jill Stein of the Green Party who is very much like Bernie Sanders was, and Gary Johnson of the Libertarian Party. As of September 7th, Jill Stein is on the ballot in 44 States and DC with voters in 3 states able to write in. They are still waiting on Rhode Island to verify the petitions. If successful that will mean Jill Stein is on the ballot in 48 states and DC. I really love it when doctors see people on tv and will say that they've never treated them, but go ahead and give them a diagnosis anyway. And you wonder why rumors and conspiracy theories get started. Jill is not going to win.
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Post by Deleted on Sept 14, 2016 3:26:31 GMT
It's not a matter of questioning--she's been questioned and put under the microscope more than anyone rise has. Because in her situation, many of the false claims against her have been debunked, no charges were pressed and several committees have found her not to be at fault or guilty of what was being bandied about, and those who are so vehemently against her won't accept it. The playing field is skewed--there are demands put upon her and not for others. When are the Hillary haters going to understand that if one drills done on most of the reasons they dislike Hillary there is not much there. Just a bunch of "fact less add-ones" to a very small insignificant event About the same time the Hillary defenders understand just how much IS there that they continue to make excuses for, dismiss, and demonize anyone pointing any of it out. Yeah, probably not very likely either. None of us here have vented that our husband's sexual assault victims are all liars and then running a Presidential campaign platform that says "All sexual assault victims should be believed." 3 of the 4 families say she did- 4 people are saying she did. The 1 member of the 4th family did not say she didn't, she said she didn't remember her saying anything about the video. According to Politico. This will no doubt, once again, get me accused of being a Trump supporter, but those that will, have already made up their mind so I don't really give a flip flying fig. The President of Mexico said at the very beginning that they will not be paying for the wall. Trump's first trip would of course be to get to know each other, not negotiate right off the bat. He's not the President, he's not in any position to be doing that at this time and would be ridiculous for him to do so. So even though the President of Mexico said that, right in the beginning, possibly as an ice breaker or whatever context he said it in, I can see where Trump can think they didn't discuss payment of the wall. I'm not stating it as fact, I'm saying I can see why he might have said it. Disclaimer: That in no way means I don't think he lies, it's just addressing this one single issue. There is enough of a pattern of corruption for the FBI to have her under Federal investigation. I believe it was reported there are over a dozen instances that show a pattern. It is possible to do good in the world and still be doing corrupt things too. The FBI will decide if that is the case. Tomorrow could be an interesting day. Perhaps the Trump threads are gone quicker because nobody's defending his corruption. The Hillary threads stay around longer because there's more people defending and making excuses for her and more demonizing of the people that push back on the excuses, making them more volatile and creating longer lasting threads.  I think the same could be said right back atcha'.
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Post by Deleted on Sept 14, 2016 3:28:19 GMT
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I sort of read the "facts" of the Gowdy Republican leaning report on Benghazi posted above. Then I went back and read the Senate Intelligence Report on Benghazi. I posted the link. I think the Senate Intelligence report gives a more realistic account of what led up to, what happened during, and what happened after the attack. And what needed to be fixed. What is missing is the obvious Republican slant that is in the report above. Oh it's in the Senate report but it's not reflected in the "facts" part of the report. It's at the back. What is missing from that report is 41 brand new witnesses 7 of them EYEWITNESSES that were never talked to for that report. Some actively discouraged and kept from giving their account.
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Post by smginaz Suzy on Sept 14, 2016 5:20:34 GMT
My fixation is due to wanting to know how much he has invested in Russia. My fixation is due to wanting to know how much he has actually contributed to charitable causes, since he has noted his "tremendous" support to various charities. My fixation is knowing whether he can balance his own budget and pay taxes properly since his platform is running as a businessman with zero political experience. If he sucks as a businessman, which already seems a relatively common perception, not sure why running the country would suddenly be a skill he can master. Especially since he is not particularly open to taking direction or advice from anyone reasonably competent. So, yeah, his taxes are particularly relevant to me.
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Post by leftturnonly on Sept 14, 2016 5:22:41 GMT
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I sort of read the "facts" of the Gowdy Republican leaning report on Benghazi posted above. Then I went back and read the Senate Intelligence Report on Benghazi. I posted the link. I think the Senate Intelligence report gives a more realistic account of what led up to, what happened during, and what happened after the attack. And what needed to be fixed. What is missing is the obvious Republican slant that is in the report above. Oh it's in the Senate report but it's not reflected in the "facts" part of the report. It's at the back. What is missing from that report is 41 brand new witnesses 7 of them EYEWITNESSES that were never talked to for that report. Some actively discouraged and kept from giving their account. Have you ever noticed how every fact is considered less important than any political commentary that is along side it, @mytnice? NOTHING WAS FOUND. Except ... clear orders were given by Secretary of Defense Leon Panetta to deploy military assets to Benghazi and none were sent. Except .... A Fleet Antiterrorism Securtiy Team (FAST) were able to change their clothing 4 times yet never leave the runway. Except ... Libyan forces unaffiliated with the US were the ones to evacuate the Americans who were trapped at the CIA Annex. Except ... there wasn't any basis for Susan Rice's Sunday Circuit Circus. Except ... the extremists that capitalized on the Cairo protests were relabeled as extremists that capitalized on the Benghazi protests. Except ... the first goal in Libya was to avoid a failed state, particularly one in which al-Qaeda and other extremists might take safe haven. Except ... senior officials from the Bureau of Diplomatic Security were excluded from State Department discussions that extended our presence in Benghazi. Except ... security in Benghazi worsened significantly about a month before the attack. Except ... there was a failure of intelligence occurred prior to the attack. Except ... the Obama administration's serial delays hindered the committee's efforts to uncover the truth That's a partial list of what was quoted above, which is itself incomplete as it doesn't even begin to address the utter recklessness of the Secretary of State with classified information that was uncovered through these investigations. All that matters is that there were also quotes from Republicans.
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Post by leftturnonly on Sept 14, 2016 5:24:09 GMT
So, yeah, his taxes are particularly relevant to me. His taxes are relevant to the IRS. He's been audited for 15 years straight. You think you're gonna find something that they've missed? Good luck with that.
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Post by smginaz Suzy on Sept 14, 2016 6:46:25 GMT
As a voter, for the reasons that I stated, his taxes are relevant to me. There is a difference between audit issues and, as I gave as an example, how he is invested in foreign nations. You don't have to agree with me, you know, but I am still entitled to my opinion.
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Post by lucyg on Sept 14, 2016 6:52:32 GMT
So, yeah, his taxes are particularly relevant to me. His taxes are relevant to the IRS. He's been audited for 15 years straight. You think you're gonna find something that they've missed? Good luck with that. No, no, nooooooo. He SAYS he's been audited every year. Since he lies to the public virtually daily, I see no reason to believe this claim unless there is other supporting evidence for it. Besides which, there may be plenty of interest to people like Suzy and me in there that isn't something the IRS would flag. His charitable donations, for example. His debt load. His income.
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Post by mollycoddle on Sept 14, 2016 7:47:25 GMT
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I sort of read the "facts" of the Gowdy Republican leaning report on Benghazi posted above. Then I went back and read the Senate Intelligence Report on Benghazi. I posted the link. I think the Senate Intelligence report gives a more realistic account of what led up to, what happened during, and what happened after the attack. And what needed to be fixed. What is missing is the obvious Republican slant that is in the report above. Oh it's in the Senate report but it's not reflected in the "facts" part of the report. It's at the back. What is missing from that report is 41 brand new witnesses 7 of them EYEWITNESSES that were never talked to for that report. Some actively discouraged and kept from giving their account. I looked and cannot find any info on these witnesses. Can you post a link please?
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Post by mollycoddle on Sept 14, 2016 7:51:26 GMT
What is missing from that report is 41 brand new witnesses 7 of them EYEWITNESSES that were never talked to for that report. Some actively discouraged and kept from giving their account. I looked and cannot find any info on these witnesses. Can you post a link please? I think that I found it. Are these military witnesses? I found a couple of article from this past May.
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Post by Deleted on Sept 14, 2016 9:08:59 GMT
What is missing from that report is 41 brand new witnesses 7 of them EYEWITNESSES that were never talked to for that report. Some actively discouraged and kept from giving their account. Have you ever noticed how every fact is considered less important than any political commentary that is along side it, @mytnice ? NOTHING WAS FOUND. Except ... clear orders were given by Secretary of Defense Leon Panetta to deploy military assets to Benghazi and none were sent. Except .... A Fleet Antiterrorism Securtiy Team (FAST) were able to change their clothing 4 times yet never leave the runway. Except ... Libyan forces unaffiliated with the US were the ones to evacuate the Americans who were trapped at the CIA Annex. Except ... there wasn't any basis for Susan Rice's Sunday Circuit Circus. Except ... the extremists that capitalized on the Cairo protests were relabeled as extremists that capitalized on the Benghazi protests. Except ... the first goal in Libya was to avoid a failed state, particularly one in which al-Qaeda and other extremists might take safe haven. Except ... senior officials from the Bureau of Diplomatic Security were excluded from State Department discussions that extended our presence in Benghazi. Except ... security in Benghazi worsened significantly about a month before the attack. Except ... there was a failure of intelligence occurred prior to the attack. Except ... the Obama administration's serial delays hindered the committee's efforts to uncover the truth That's a partial list of what was quoted above, which is itself incomplete as it doesn't even begin to address the utter recklessness of the Secretary of State with classified information that was uncovered through these investigations. All that matters is that there were also quotes from Republicans. So true.
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Post by papercrafteradvocate on Sept 14, 2016 9:52:37 GMT
When are the Hillary haters going to understand that if one drills done on most of the reasons they dislike Hillary there is not much there. Just a bunch of "fact less add-ones" to a very small insignificant event About the same time the Hillary defenders understand just how much IS there that they continue to make excuses for, dismiss, and demonize anyone pointing any of it out. Yeah, probably not very likely either. None of us here have vented that our husband's sexual assault victims are all liars and then running a Presidential campaign platform that says "All sexual assault victims should be believed." 3 of the 4 families say she did- 4 people are saying she did. The 1 member of the 4th family did not say she didn't, she said she didn't remember her saying anything about the video. According to Politico. This will no doubt, once again, get me accused of being a Trump supporter, but those that will, have already made up their mind so I don't really give a flip flying fig. The President of Mexico said at the very beginning that they will not be paying for the wall. Trump's first trip would of course be to get to know each other, not negotiate right off the bat. He's not the President, he's not in any position to be doing that at this time and would be ridiculous for him to do so. So even though the President of Mexico said that, right in the beginning, possibly as an ice breaker or whatever context he said it in, I can see where Trump can think they didn't discuss payment of the wall. I'm not stating it as fact, I'm saying I can see why he might have said it. Disclaimer: That in no way means I don't think he lies, it's just addressing this one single issue. There is enough of a pattern of corruption for the FBI to have her under Federal investigation. I believe it was reported there are over a dozen instances that show a pattern. It is possible to do good in the world and still be doing corrupt things too. The FBI will decide if that is the case. Tomorrow could be an interesting day. Perhaps the Trump threads are gone quicker because nobody's defending his corruption. The Hillary threads stay around longer because there's more people defending and making excuses for her and more demonizing of the people that push back on the excuses, making them more volatile and creating longer lasting threads.  I think the same could be said right back atcha'. The thing is that people like you who refuse to accept findings that show no fault with her or where you are holding her to a standard that no one else has to be subjected to and just want to spew the hatred, which not all is factual and/or true, then people (and her supporters) are going to post. Just because you won't accept facts/truth about it does not mean that her supporters are demonizing, dismissing anything. Hillary didn't go on national tv slamming those women either. Her venting to a friend was breached by dead friends husband---he's the one who put all that out there, years after the fact too. Hillary isn't the first or last woman who has stayed with a cheating spouse. When it comes choosing a president this isn't on the radar as a factor for most (unless you are a hater where you put it all on her) and one might think that after all that happened that maybe--just maybe she learned from it-----but NooooNooooooooooo! I cannot imagine any woman who wouldn't lash out venting to friends if their husband cheated! Those who hate Hillary NEVER give her the benefit of having learned anything. Oh--and just to make it clear it's a stretch to use the word victims (with Paula Jones most likely being the exception to that) the women he cheated with were WILLING participants, entered into their relationship/trysts full well knowing and as consenting adults. I only bring this up (use of the word victim) because those who are haters are using the word "victim" to slam Hillary on her campaign. He's a complete douchbag for being such a cheating asshat --but that's on him not Hillary. And all the other hogwash....you're doing the same thing again--what you accuse others of doing-make explanations, excuses etc for Trump. It's just bias. If you continue to post what you think is a fact, when it's just an opinion and try to get away with it as being fact, others are going to continue to point out the flaws and correct you.
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His taxes are relevant to the IRS. He's been audited for 15 years straight. You think you're gonna find something that they've missed? Good luck with that. No, no, nooooooo. He SAYS he's been audited every year. Since he lies to the public virtually daily, I see no reason to believe this claim unless there is other supporting evidence for it. Besides which, there may be plenty of interest to people like Suzy and me in there that isn't something the IRS would flag. His charitable donations, for example. His debt load. His income. I get that people want to know, but you're already not voting for him. This doesn't decide anything for anyone, it just makes more fodder for internet arguments (and I'm not picking on anyone here; we're all here, reading and fussing.) So, in all sincerity, how will knowing really change anything? What will you actually do with the information that you're not already doing? Save
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Post by Deleted on Sept 14, 2016 13:23:50 GMT
What is missing from that report is 41 brand new witnesses 7 of them EYEWITNESSES that were never talked to for that report. Some actively discouraged and kept from giving their account. Have you ever noticed how every fact is considered less important than any political commentary that is along side it, @mytnice ? NOTHING WAS FOUND. Except ... clear orders were given by Secretary of Defense Leon Panetta to deploy military assets to Benghazi and none were sent. Except .... A Fleet Antiterrorism Securtiy Team (FAST) were able to change their clothing 4 times yet never leave the runway. Except ... Libyan forces unaffiliated with the US were the ones to evacuate the Americans who were trapped at the CIA Annex. Except ... there wasn't any basis for Susan Rice's Sunday Circuit Circus. Except ... the extremists that capitalized on the Cairo protests were relabeled as extremists that capitalized on the Benghazi protests. Except ... the first goal in Libya was to avoid a failed state, particularly one in which al-Qaeda and other extremists might take safe haven. Except ... senior officials from the Bureau of Diplomatic Security were excluded from State Department discussions that extended our presence in Benghazi. Except ... security in Benghazi worsened significantly about a month before the attack. Except ... there was a failure of intelligence occurred prior to the attack. Except ... the Obama administration's serial delays hindered the committee's efforts to uncover the truth That's a partial list of what was quoted above, which is itself incomplete as it doesn't even begin to address the utter recklessness of the Secretary of State with classified information that was uncovered through these investigations. All that matters is that there were also quotes from Republicans. Did you read the Senate report? The body of the report gives just the facts with findings and recommendations. No Republican or Democratic slant.
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Post by leftturnonly on Sept 14, 2016 13:30:46 GMT
His taxes are relevant to the IRS. He's been audited for 15 years straight. You think you're gonna find something that they've missed? Good luck with that. No, no, nooooooo. He SAYS he's been audited every year. Since he lies to the public virtually daily, I see no reason to believe this claim unless there is other supporting evidence for it. Besides which, there may be plenty of interest to people like Suzy and me in there that isn't something the IRS would flag. His charitable donations, for example. His debt load. His income. Fine. Y'all care about whatever charitable deductions he may or may not have claimed on his income taxes that are a matter between he and the government of the USA. I think it's a complete waste of time, but have at it to your heart's content. No skin off my nose.
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Post by beebee on Sept 14, 2016 13:41:05 GMT
I don't trust a word out of Hillary's Clinton's mouth or out of the DNC. I will vote for a woman for President this year-but it will be for Jill Stein. As far as Hillary's health goes-I believe she has Parkinson's disease. Too many pieces fit. I saw a video on Facebook and of course now I can't find it (so I can't link it) but it made a lot of sense. It was a medical doctor and the first thing he said was that he wasn't her doctor and that he'd never examined Hillary Clinton, but from looking at the videos available, and from what he knew about Parkinson's disease he then pointed out all of the various symptoms-the coughing fits, the seizures like when the balloons were coming down, even the pneumonia are all common with Parkinson's patients. Personally it makes sense to me. You are all free to believe what you wish. As a presidential candidate I do not want Hillary Clinton in the White House. It has nothing to do with her health. I don't want Donald Trump either. We have 4 candidates to choose from this year. Four, not just two! A fact so many people seem to forget. We also have Jill Stein of the Green Party who is very much like Bernie Sanders was, and Gary Johnson of the Libertarian Party. As of September 7th, Jill Stein is on the ballot in 44 States and DC with voters in 3 states able to write in. They are still waiting on Rhode Island to verify the petitions. If successful that will mean Jill Stein is on the ballot in 48 states and DC. I really love it when doctors see people on tv and will say that they've never treated them, but go ahead and give them a diagnosis anyway. And you wonder why rumors and conspiracy theories get started. Jill is not going to win. If she would come out and say what is wrong with her, then rumors and conspiracy theories could be laid to rest. There is clearly something wrong with her. I just don't think that can be denied whether you love or hate her. The comments that Colin Powell made about her in his emails just add fuel to the fire.
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Post by leftturnonly on Sept 14, 2016 13:41:35 GMT
Her venting to a friend was breached by dead friends husband---he's the one who put all that out there, years after the fact too. Funny how I heard about what she had to say about all these other women sometime before her husband took up residence in the White House and until this thread I never heard of confidences to a friend that were released years later by this friend's widowed husband. I'm sure you'll have some kind of excuse or explanation for that as well. You always do.
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