Burke Ramsay on Dr. Phil

Who does that? name one single case where a child has brutally killed a sibling and then the parents are even more brutal in further mutilating her body in order to create a cover up. Just one.
That's the stuff of TV shows not real life.

If you have kids imagine a scenario where your much loved child has a caved in skull from your other child and is now dead or close to death. How many dead bodies have you seen or handled? Is it likely that a normal parent would then hunt around to find a cord to turn into garrotte, tie knots around a stick and tighten it around their much loved child's neck with such force that the cord is embedded into her neck and the stick snaps? Or would tie her hands together, or do something that makes it look like she was sexually molested? No parent with no previous history of physical abuse would be able to do that to their dying child. it just doesn't happen.

People do not go from normal loving parents to mutilating their dead child in order to cover up the act of their other child. People don't go from being normal one minute to being able to violently injure their unexpectedly dying child the next.

Who does that? name one single case where a child has brutally killed a sibling and then the parents are even more brutal in further mutilating her body in order to create a cover up. Just one.
That's the stuff of TV shows not real life.

If you have kids imagine a scenario where your much loved child has a caved in skull from your other child and is now dead or close to death. How many dead bodies have you seen or handled? Is it likely that a normal parent would then hunt around to find a cord to turn into garrotte, tie knots around a stick and tighten it around their much loved child's neck with such force that the cord is embedded into her neck and the stick snaps? Or would tie her hands together, or do something that makes it look like she was sexually molested? No parent with no previous history of physical abuse would be able to do that to their dying child. it just doesn't happen.

People do not go from normal loving parents to mutilating their dead child in order to cover up the act of their other child. People don't go from being normal one minute to being able to violently injure their unexpectedly dying child the next.

I agree. Why not just say that there was a terrible accident? They said that she was brain dead but still alive. Wouldn't they call 911? The new experts feel strongly that Patsy wrote the ransom note, which is unlike any in the history of kidnapping (weird rambling, the dollar amount, leaving note on the back stairs). All of the things that occurred, including leaving the body behind, are not things that a kidnapper would do either. Everything about this case is so bizarre.

I think this is one of the things I find the least strange. How many threads have we had here that have talked about NOT talking to police? Considering the police took the stance that the Ramsey's were at fault...I don't know how much I would talk to them either. SaveSave

A few things that have been going through my mind.  Initially Jonbonet was hit on the head with a flash light which cracked her skull but didn't kill her.  Was Burke at 9 years old strong enough to crack her skull? Maybe. I don't think he was involved in the murder. Had he hit her over the head with a flashlight I don't think he would have immediately thought I need to cover this up by taking her downstairs and strangle her to death. And if Patsy found her after the head injury she would have taken her to the hospital because she was not dead.  Patsy at that point would rather save her daughters life than protect her son.  

I am leaning towards Patsy murdering her daughter. At some point during the night Jonbonet woke up in the middle of the night after wetting her bed. There was arguing, Patsy was irrate that yet again her beauty queen daughter wasn't perfect and that she had to deal with this in the middle of the night for the millionth time.  At some point she hit her daughter with a flashlight.  The force knocked Jonbonet out, which freaked out Patsy.  When Jonbonet came to Patsy tried to keep Jonbonet alert by taking her to the kitchen and giving her pineapple.  We all know that with brain injuries we need to keep the kids awake and alert and watch to see if the eyes roll back in the head.  This is where Patsy realized how serious her injuries were.  And instead of rushing her to the hospital to try and save Jonbonet life she had to come up with a plan.   Patsy knew she would eventually be arrested and everyone would know she had abused her daughter.  Murdering her daughter and coming up with this elaborate lie was the only way to keep herself out of prison and protect her reputation that was the most important thing to her. 
As for the ransom letter its looks to be Patsy's handwriting.  Why would John go along with this and protect his wife? Again reputation, maybe they would point the finger at him instead of her. At some point maybe he helped out.

So what about the trace DNA evidence on her pj's?  Maybe this DNA was from a store worker or the person who made the pajamas?  Is it possible the DNA had nothing to do with the murder?
So what about the evidence of sexual abuse?  There was no evidence that she was
sexually abused the night of the murderd.  Maybe the murder had nothing to do with the sexual abuse?  

I cant wrap my mind around any of it.  One thing is for certain was that life was hard for Jonbonet at 7. Sexual abuse a stage Mom and the life of a pageant queen.  I don't think we will ever know the truth.
Jen

After seeing shows like Making a Murderer, I'd be very weary of speaking with LE without benefit of an attorney with me...not because I was guilty, but because I know that immediate family is always the first suspects and the "go-to" and are eager to close their case.  

The Ramsay's were not stupid people and had the financial means to retain a very good lawyer who most likely advised them NOT to speak with LE for this very reason.

They looked guilty in the court of public opinion whether they spoke with LE or not.

Everything points to someone else (to me) except that crazy ransom letter. To me, that is the oddest thing about everything. I read that it would take someone at minimum 21 minutes to write the 3-page letter. WHO would do that if they were an intruder with parents upstairs? It's the ransom letter that makes me think that it was an accident and the Ramsays were trying to cover up.

It's just crazy though. Boulder police were so inept.