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Post by Deleted on Sept 15, 2016 17:24:34 GMT
Colin Powell slammed both presidential candidates and their responses is a lesson in character study.
Trump tweeted " I was never a fan of Colin Powell after his weak understanding of weapons of mass destruction in Iraq=disaster. We can do better."
Clinton in a phone interview with the the Tom Joyner TV show's response". I have a great deal of respect for Colin Powell, and I have a lot of sympathy for anyone whose emails become public" she said.
She continued " I'm not going to start discussing someone else's private emails because I've already spent a lot of time talking about my own".
Once again Trump strikes back like a little two year old.
A prerequiste for president is a tough skin. On the foreign stage you can't react like a two year old every time someone you perceive isn't being "nice" to you or "run their little boats around our beautiful destroyers and make gestures to our sailors" so you are going to shoot the little boats out of the water. Or attack a Flint, MI minister for stopping him from giving his political speech attacking Hillary when he should have been specifically talking about the residents of Flint and what they have been through the last two years.
He did get caught in yet another lie. One of the folks at the Church yelled out how Trump has discriminated against blacks by not renting them apartments in his and his father's NY apt buildings. Trump said no never but yet it's well documented that both him and his father did indeed descriminate against blacks by finding ways not to rent to black folks.
As to Powell's comments about Hillary. While I agree that sometimes she can be her own worst enemy I do feel that some of his remarks were sexist.
Dude, the woman is running for president of course she is going to have unbridled ambition. And if he meant she was greedy because "she wants it all" well guess what you can say the same thing about any man running for the office. And as to her "hubris". Those characteristics are part of the ego necessary for a potential presidential candidates to put up with all the crap the American people put them through. And all too often these characteristics in powerful women are considered a fault while in a man its to be expected.
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Post by annabella on Sept 15, 2016 20:36:35 GMT
You make great points! I was conflicted about this email. I think first he must have called Hillary to apologize so that's why she publically has nothing to say. After all Obama dogged Hillary when they were both candidates, now they're friendly. I never forgot how he treated her. I do wonder about Colin's point calling her a 70 year candidate? What exactly does that mean? Especially coming from a grumpy 80 year old man.
I don't feel I really know Powell. He was never really out there in the press giving opinions or showcasing his personality, so why should his opinion matter as I have no basis to know of who its coming from you know?
What I find most fascinating though is to learn that Bill is still cheating on Hillary. What is their arrangement?
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Post by Deleted on Sept 15, 2016 20:44:22 GMT
Those responses are about what I'd expect.
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Post by MizIndependent on Sept 15, 2016 20:50:46 GMT
Dude, the woman is running for president of course she is going to have unbridled ambition. And if he meant she was greedy because "she wants it all" well guess what you can say the same thing about any man running for the office. And as to her "hubris". Those characteristics are part of the ego necessary for a potential presidential candidates to put up with all the crap the American people put them through. And all too often these characteristics in powerful women are considered a fault while in a man its to be expected. What about "not transformational", "greedy", "everything HRC touches she kind of screws up"...and "long track record of unbridled ambition" includes a lot longer than just "running for president", but I'll concede that bit since most if not all former presidents share this quality too. I think we all can agree that Bill "dicking bimbos at home" Clinton is a huge liability at this point. ITA with you about Trump - but then most people will since he is a perpetual 2 year old in the middle of a tantrum.
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Post by papersilly on Sept 15, 2016 21:52:47 GMT
despite what Hillary may have felt privately, I'm glad she took the high road and gave a politically calm response. trump...well....are we surprised?
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Post by jayfab on Sept 15, 2016 22:06:38 GMT
Their responses clearly show the differences in character.
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Post by Deleted on Sept 15, 2016 22:19:31 GMT
Dude, the woman is running for president of course she is going to have unbridled ambition. And if he meant she was greedy because "she wants it all" well guess what you can say the same thing about any man running for the office. And as to her "hubris". Those characteristics are part of the ego necessary for a potential presidential candidates to put up with all the crap the American people put them through. And all too often these characteristics in powerful women are considered a fault while in a man its to be expected. What about "not transformational", "greedy"...and "long track record of unbridled ambition" includes a lot longer than just "running for president", but I'll concede that bit since most if not all former presidents share this quality too. I think we all can agree that Bill "dicking bimbos at home" Clinton is a huge liability at this point. ITA with you about Trump - but then most people will since he is a perpetual 2 year old in the middle of a tantrum. Who knows if Bill is still fooling around. And if he is I don't care. My guess, in looking at him, he will be lucky to be around by the end of Hillary's first term if she is elected. He looks so frail. The reality is both of these candidates are flawed. But one will be president. Above is a perfect example of the difference between the two. I personally don't want a 2 year old in the Oval Office unless it's Hillary's grandchildren coming to visit grandma at work.
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Post by Deleted on Sept 15, 2016 23:01:53 GMT
Their responses clearly show the differences in character. That's kind of like saying... Trump releasing his medical records clearly shows the differences in their transparency and honesty.
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Post by Deleted on Sept 15, 2016 23:23:24 GMT
Their responses clearly show the differences in character. That's kind of like saying... Trump releasing his medical records clearly shows the differences in their transparency and honesty. It's clear you don't "get it" yet again. 
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Post by Deleted on Sept 15, 2016 23:47:41 GMT
That's kind of like saying... Trump releasing his medical records clearly shows the differences in their transparency and honesty. It's clear you don't "get it" yet again.  Yeah, I still haven't fallen in line with the "correct" opinion. That's clearly so frustrating for you.
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Post by jayfab on Sept 16, 2016 0:22:03 GMT
Their responses clearly show the differences in character. That's kind of like saying... Trump releasing his medical records clearly shows the differences in their transparency and honesty. Yes, that also, he released "fudged" partial medical records vs her full medical records. It sure does show that your candidate has the character of an eight year old and she is an adult. SaveSave
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Post by jayfab on Sept 16, 2016 0:22:46 GMT
It's clear you don't "get it" yet again.  Yeah, I still haven't fallen in line with the "correct" opinion. That's clearly so frustrating for you. That's ok, you can defend your candidate. We understand. SaveSave
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Post by mimima on Sept 16, 2016 4:52:06 GMT
I received an email from Powells' Book Store regarding an in-store signing with Bruce Springsteen, and then a second with corrected information.
I definitely thought this thread was about that.
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Post by papercrafteradvocate on Sept 16, 2016 10:01:13 GMT
Their responses clearly show the differences in character. That's kind of like saying... Trump releasing his medical records clearly shows the differences in their transparency and honesty. No, it's really not.
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Post by papercrafteradvocate on Sept 16, 2016 10:02:53 GMT
Yeah, I still haven't fallen in line with the "correct" opinion. That's clearly so frustrating for you. That's ok, you can defend your candidate. We understand. SaveSaveExactly.
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Post by Deleted on Sept 16, 2016 10:24:50 GMT
Their responses clearly show the differences in character. That's kind of like saying... Trump releasing his medical records clearly shows the differences in their transparency and honesty. Nah, not the same........one understands the meaning of the word " diplomacy" and the other doesn't! The character of one knows the art of being diplomatic when needed the other would never master the art however hard he tried.
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Post by Deleted on Sept 16, 2016 10:35:39 GMT
Those responses are an indicator of which candidate has "better character"? That response is how some of you are judging a person's "character"?
I guess my level of someone's character goes much deeper than a sound byte.
I think both Clinton and Trump are deplorable of character. They're quite different, for sure...but neither is better than the other.
I came to a conclusion earlier this week that was quite difficult for me.
I will not be voting. I just can't.
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Post by peasful1 on Sept 16, 2016 16:13:30 GMT
I will not be voting. I just can't. edited to change nominee to candidate. Shame on you.
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Post by MizIndependent on Sept 16, 2016 16:15:35 GMT
I will not be voting. I just can't. edited to change nominee to candidate. Shame on you. 
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Post by amom23 on Sept 16, 2016 16:27:35 GMT
Those responses are an indicator of which candidate has "better character"? That response is how some of you are judging a person's "character"? I guess my level of someone's character goes much deeper than a sound byte. I think both Clinton and Trump are deplorable of character. They're quite different, for sure...but neither is better than the other. I came to a conclusion earlier this week that was quite difficult for me. I will not be voting. I just can't. edited to change nominee to candidate. While it is certainly your right not to vote you damn well better not be on this message board bitching about who just got elected on November 9th.
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Post by lindas on Sept 16, 2016 16:49:15 GMT
Those responses are an indicator of which candidate has "better character"? That response is how some of you are judging a person's "character"? I guess my level of someone's character goes much deeper than a sound byte. I think both Clinton and Trump are deplorable of character. They're quite different, for sure...but neither is better than the other. I came to a conclusion earlier this week that was quite difficult for me. I will not be voting. I just can't. edited to change nominee to candidate. While it is certainly your right not to vote you damn well better not be on this message board bitching about who just got elected on November 9th. Who died and left you in charge? Does that mean that if my candidate of choice loses I can't bitch about the winner?
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Post by leftturnonly on Sept 16, 2016 17:04:08 GMT
I think both Clinton and Trump are deplorable of character. Whoa! Hold on there. You're putting Clinton in the Basket of Deplorables? Dude. That's so wrong. No one in there wants her!
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Post by Deleted on Sept 16, 2016 17:18:37 GMT
While it is certainly your right not to vote you damn well better not be on this message board bitching about who just got elected on November 9th. Who died and left you in charge? Does that mean that if my candidate of choice loses I can't bitch about the winner? That is not what she said. And I agree with those who believe if one sits out the election then they really don't have a right to bitch if things go wrong. On the other hand if you vote for "your" candidate and the other guy wins and mucks things up then you have every right to come on the board and say 4 simple words. "I told you so".
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Post by amom23 on Sept 16, 2016 17:45:27 GMT
Who died and left you in charge? Does that mean that if my candidate of choice loses I can't bitch about the winner? That is not what she said. And I agree with those who believe if one sits out the election then they really don't have a right to bitch if things go wrong. On the other hand if you vote for "your" candidate and the other guy wins and mucks things up then you have every right to come on the board and say 4 simple words. "I told you so".
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Post by Deleted on Sept 16, 2016 19:14:40 GMT
That's kind of like saying... Trump releasing his medical records clearly shows the differences in their transparency and honesty. Nah, not the same........ It wasn't meant to be taken quite so literally. She may have the diplomacy that he lacks, but that doesn't excuse her from severely lacking good character in many other areas. She truly is no better than him, they are both severely lacking, sometimes in different areas, sometimes in the same areas. That was the point of what I originally said and in that way makes it the same, not literally the same.
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Post by Deleted on Sept 16, 2016 19:20:03 GMT
While it is certainly your right not to vote you damn well better not be on this message board bitching about who just got elected on November 9th. Who died and left you in charge? Seriously. It's just another justification for silencing opposing viewpoints.
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Post by Deleted on Sept 16, 2016 19:52:47 GMT
Those responses are an indicator of which candidate has "better character"? That response is how some of you are judging a person's "character"? I guess my level of someone's character goes much deeper than a sound byte. I think both Clinton and Trump are deplorable of character. They're quite different, for sure...but neither is better than the other. I came to a conclusion earlier this week that was quite difficult for me. I will not be voting. I just can't. edited to change nominee to candidate. While it is certainly your right not to vote you damn well better not be on this message board bitching about who just got elected on November 9th. I'm pretty sure you damn well better not be trying to tell people who can post and on what subjects they post about.
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Post by Deleted on Sept 16, 2016 19:54:29 GMT
Who died and left you in charge? Seriously. It's just another justification for silencing opposing viewpoints. There are peas that aren't even American citizens that are bitching about politics and about one candidate or the other. Are those peas going to be allowed to post since they didn't vote?
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Post by Deleted on Sept 16, 2016 20:13:40 GMT
Seriously. It's just another justification for silencing opposing viewpoints. There are peas that aren't even American citizens that are bitching about politics and about one candidate or the other. Are those peas going to be allowed to post since they didn't vote? Only if they have the "correct" opinion, of course.
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Post by Deleted on Sept 16, 2016 20:31:44 GMT
Maybe we should all submit some kind of "proof" to the moderator who would then give individuals who submitted proof of casting a vote for one of the Presidential candidates some kind of sticker or something...so everyone would know who voted and who didn't and who was "allowed" to post on political threads in the future.
I have no shame in withholding my vote for President (will still be using the rest of my ballot to vote...will simply skip the Presidential section)
I feel the two major parties have let me down in the biggest of ways...and I wish I could vote third party...but cannot at this time because that candidate doesn't even know what Aleppo is.
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