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Post by kajo1982 on Sept 24, 2016 16:14:22 GMT
Having some drama/fighting in my family and I'm wondering what your opinion is on who's thoughts/feelings should come first is it the children or the spouse? I'm not talking about the needs of small children unable to take care of themselves, I'm talking about grown children still living at home. I feel like I'm ready to have some sort of intervention/counseling with my parents/siblings because I'm tired of all the fighting/drama and nobody listening to the feelings of the others and just doing whatever the hell they want. I don't live at home but am still around enough to know what goes on plus they all complain to me about the other people. If you've been through this and have any advice please share.
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Post by Darcy Collins on Sept 24, 2016 16:18:53 GMT
I wonder if there'd be a lot less drama and fighting it no one expected to come "first". It's just not a concept I implement in my family - either with my husband or my parents. Family is about compromise and respect.
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Post by freecharlie on Sept 24, 2016 16:21:23 GMT
In my house, the kids come first mostly. Dh and I sacrifice for them, but also take time to indulge ourselves too.
Grow adult children, I'd probably say spouse, but it depends on the situation.
What does coming first mean?
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Post by freecharlie on Sept 24, 2016 16:22:15 GMT
Oh and since you don't live there, I'd let them have their drama as long as it wasn't detrimental to a person and stay out of it.
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Post by freebird on Sept 24, 2016 16:23:50 GMT
Spouse first always. (of course you'd never not love, or neglect the kids!) but remember, when the kids are grown and gone, who are you left with? If you don't nurture that relationship and put children first always, you'll have nothing left when they are gone. Parenting mistake #1 IMO.
Hindsight is 20/20. I have an ex husband so apparently we didn't nurture that relationship enough.
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Post by ktdoesntscrap on Sept 24, 2016 16:26:31 GMT
I think who ever needs to come first. Sometimes it is your spouse and sometimes the kids.
I think it is easy to choose kids over the spouse and I am certain that happened in my marriage. So be careful, be honest talk about it.
In your case, I would not involve myself in a situation unless I had too.
ETA: When they start to complain to you. Be firm. Say STOP I'm not going to listen to this, you need to talk to Mom, Dad, Brother, Sister whomever.
Just say I am not going to be in the middle of your issues it is unhealthy for all of us.
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Post by Deleted on Sept 24, 2016 16:26:44 GMT
Having a brother who is 54 and still thinks that his feelings and thoughts are they only ones that matter I would say don't play in to that shit. Most people learn at some point that the way others think and feel is also important and that compromise can always be reached.
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Post by scrappinmama on Sept 24, 2016 16:39:52 GMT
It really depends on the situation, but generally spouse should come first if we are talking about adult children.
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Post by secondlife on Sept 24, 2016 16:41:22 GMT
I think it depends on what the needs are and who is able to meet those needs at the time.
If everyone works together to meet the needs of each other, that helps a lot - I wouldn't say anyone in our family comes first, I think we all work together to get it done as best we are able. Sometimes one or another of us needs more help than another and we take up their slack. When we get out of balance though, that causes problems - and that does happen. So we do our best but sometimes we struggle to get it right.
I hear out of balance in this situation - everyone is trying to have their own needs and wants dominate the conversation.
But you can't help someone who is too self centered to do better. I would have to just say, I'm sorry this is such a hard situation but I can't get dragged into it, tell me if I can help but I don't want to participate in the drama.
Me personally - I don't do drama and I definitely don't do this triangulation nonsense where one family member complains about another family member to me. If I can help people fix their problems, I'm happy to, but I don't like drama. I dislike drama so much that I have a couple of relatives with whom I am not close because their drama is too much for me.
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Post by azredhead on Sept 24, 2016 17:05:32 GMT
In our case it's our spouse over family members since we have no kids. We've had a lot of drama on both sides we've decide we can't pick sides long time ago.
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Post by momto4kiddos on Sept 24, 2016 17:10:29 GMT
I think it depends on the situation. Sometimes someone in particular needs to be a priority, right now my adult ds who has some recent health issues is a priority if there needs to be a priority. Last summer my Dad had a huge health crisis and I spent 2 full weeks with him & my Mom - I expected my kids to step up and take care of one another (one was a high schooler in a high school 1/2 hour away with no license.) I don't think there is a one size fits all answer. As far as feelings go, I also don't think there is one person who is a priority or their feelings are a priority over others. Plays well with others is something you learn in grade school and should apply  My adult kids live at home currently, they get along pretty well. There's the occasional annoyance or vent, but nothing major. I've seen a lot of times where someone who may be a bit selfish thinks they should always be the priority. If there is one party always complaining, then i'd have to consider why that is?
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Post by Deleted on Sept 24, 2016 17:22:45 GMT
If I didn't live in the house with them, I would tell ALL of them to stop venting to me and pulling me into the drama. YOU don't have to take sides or solve their problems.
IMO, in a family of adults the one who gets to be first is the primary bread winner. If you don't like his/her needs being met first then move out and be self supporting in your own space. If you can't afford it then shut up and deal. But, also, in a family of adults I would expect the house rules to be flexible enough to accomdate the needs of all the adults so without a specific situation it is hard to say. Sounds like plenty of disrespect all the way around.
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Post by Kerri W on Sept 24, 2016 18:05:48 GMT
In a family of adults, I would expect the parents paying the bills to be first. The adult children are always welcome to move out if they feel their needs are not being met.
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Post by cycworker on Sept 24, 2016 18:12:51 GMT
I need more details/some specific examples. It depends on the situation.
Either way I agree that I'd not get in the middle of it.
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Post by maryland on Sept 24, 2016 18:14:59 GMT
I can't really answer the question. I would first say spouse, but it depends on how you look at it.
We put a lot of money aside to pay for our kids college. So that means my husband will have to work for longer because we want to help them out as much as we can. We also sacrifice things that we would like to do with our money (redo some things in our house like the pink counter in our bathroom!, new furniture, new carpets/floors) but we put those off so our daughters can do activities like dance, soccer, all those expensive sports.
But we don't let our children talk back to us, lie to us, etc.
So not a good answer for you, but when I first thought spouse definitely, I read some responses, and started to think that it depends on the situation who comes "first". Just our experience! It's interesting to see how people do things differently and it gives us some ideas for improving the way we do things.
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Post by Deleted on Sept 24, 2016 18:50:28 GMT
I voted spouse, because he is the father of my children and a good provider for them. If he were my husband and not their father, they would probably come first.
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Post by padresfan619 on Sept 24, 2016 18:51:25 GMT
It depends on the needs of the person at the time.
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Post by littlemama on Sept 24, 2016 18:58:14 GMT
I would need more info on the specific situation to answer.
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Post by Kymberlee on Sept 24, 2016 19:00:51 GMT
The dog. Just sayin'
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Post by scrapaddie on Sept 24, 2016 19:02:34 GMT
Spouse first always. (of course you'd never not love, or neglect the kids!) but remember, when the kids are grown and gone, who are you left with? If you don't nurture that relationship and put children first always, you'll have nothing left when they are gone. Parenting mistake #1 IMO. Hindsight is 20/20. I have an ex husband so apparently we didn't nurture that relationship enough. Some husbands can't be nourished enough. My ex was my first child.... Very spoiled and very demanding. I finally ran out of energy
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Post by Spongemom Scrappants on Sept 24, 2016 19:10:46 GMT
I don't view "who comes first" as a hard and fast rule. It's fluid depending on needs and circumstances.
There is priority for those paying the bills though when dealing with all adults. There may be some non-negotiable needs then, but even those should be reasonable.
No one should be taking advantage of anyone nonetheless. In the end, a family should work to meet everyone's needs in balance.
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Post by caro on Sept 24, 2016 20:44:27 GMT
Grown children? My DH is first, they are second. We always presented a united front when our kids were home, always.
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Post by christine58 on Sept 24, 2016 20:52:33 GMT
Need more info...
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Post by maurchclt on Sept 24, 2016 21:51:40 GMT
Not sure of the situation, but will NEVER forget my dad telling us kids that while were always loved, and we were, in our house, there was never a question, their marriage came first. They adored each other, they had a marriage that all their children and grandchildren strived for and they were happily married for 46 years.
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Post by AussieMeg on Sept 24, 2016 22:32:51 GMT
Waaaaaaay too vague for me to give an answer. And why does anyone have to come "first"? You all need to find a way to live together in harmony so the family comes first. (Alternatively, perhaps it's time to set the kids free!  )
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Post by houston249 on Sept 24, 2016 22:57:19 GMT
Having some drama/fighting in my family and I'm wondering what your opinion is on who's thoughts/feelings should come first is it the children or the spouse? I'm not talking about the needs of small children unable to take care of themselves, I'm talking about grown children still living at home. I feel like I'm ready to have some sort of intervention/counseling with my parents/siblings because I'm tired of all the fighting/drama and nobody listening to the feelings of the others and just doing whatever the hell they want. I don't live at home but am still around enough to know what goes on plus they all complain to me about the other people. If you've been through this and have any advice please share. It sounds like kajo is not living with her parents but some of her adult siblings still live at home with their parents. If I am readng this right, I would tell the siblings "hey! I love you dearly and I am sure your right but I cannot listen to you vent about blank. It is just to much for me right now." I would repeat this ad nauseum over and over. If they cant stop, have a predetermined plan to politely escape. I would tell the parents "i love you dearly and I want to always support and honor you but this venting is really effecting me to the point of me not coming around as much. Can we please keep it to a certain amount of minutes?" I only considered listening to the parents because they are her parents, but maybe they could not be put out if you told them what you told the siblings? Best of luck, sounds like they are trapped in a very negitive cycle.
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Post by LeaP on Sept 24, 2016 23:59:27 GMT
Beat me to it! The dog and the cat come first, the rest of us just live to serve. In reality, I think it depends. A grown child with a disability or illness would come first in my opinion. I'm hoping my teens launch successfully so that my spouse and I can be even more servile to the dog and cat. SaveSave
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Post by refugeepea on Sept 25, 2016 0:08:33 GMT
Having some drama/fighting in my family and I'm wondering what your opinion is on who's thoughts/feelings should come first is it the children or the spouse? I'm not talking about the needs of small children unable to take care of themselves, I'm talking about grown children still living at home. My situation is different than most. My child will always be first because once they are an adult, they won't be able to take care of themselves. I will always be the caregiver. Where you don't live with the family and it's a grown child situation, I'd tell them you don't want to hear anything more about the situation. There's nothing you can do. If that will cause too much drama being so direct, you can be slow in responding to their texts and calls and remain neutral in your responses.
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Post by Deleted on Sept 25, 2016 2:29:15 GMT
Minor children? They come first.
Adult children that ideally would be living on their own by now? Spouse.
As my kids get older, dh and I will do things we want to do without them. However, we'll drive 2 hours just to watch a 10 minute marching band show in a heartbeat.
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Post by flute4peace on Sept 25, 2016 2:34:38 GMT
I wonder if there'd be a lot less drama and fighting it no one expected to come "first". It's just not a concept I implement in my family - either with my husband or my parents. Family is about compromise and respect. This.
To answer your question technically, God comes first.
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