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Post by Deleted on Oct 16, 2016 20:12:07 GMT
Makes me wonder what the excuse for the true colors of vile Hillary supporters we've seen and experienced is. I'm sorry, did I miss the photos of Hillary supporters wearing shirts that state "grab my pussy" or what this couple are wearing? If so I apologize. However, I'm talking about Trump directly influencing these behaviours and people feeling okay to spew their crappy outlook BECAUSE HE DOES. How about violence against Trump supporters: What's their excuse?
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Post by trollie on Oct 16, 2016 20:22:22 GMT
I'm sorry, did I miss the photos of Hillary supporters wearing shirts that state "grab my pussy" or what this couple are wearing? If so I apologize. However, I'm talking about Trump directly influencing these behaviours and people feeling okay to spew their crappy outlook BECAUSE HE DOES. How about violence against Trump supporters: What's their excuse? Of course violence is wrong.... I only watched the first 6 1/2 mins. None of the people attacking the Trump supporters showed any outward support of Hillary. You can't conclude that they are Hillary supporters based on the fact that they are anti-Trump. Regardless of whom they may vote for, their violent actions are wrong.
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Post by imsirius on Oct 16, 2016 20:34:27 GMT
I agree..on both sides it is awful. This election has stirred up such hatred and dispicable behaviours. I believe this shit is going to divide the US more than ever.
I fear for the backlash if HRC wins from Trump himself. His huge ego won't accept the loss and he is going to spin his supporters into a huge frenzy to go after her.
I fear the most though, a Trump win. His followers will get even worse I believe.
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Post by Nink on Oct 16, 2016 20:47:16 GMT
I sincerely hope I'm wrong, but a civil war of sorts after this election would not surprise me.
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Post by Deleted on Oct 16, 2016 20:52:59 GMT
I think the GOP headquarters in Orange county , NC being firebombed is more concerning. Someone is going to get hurt or killed with this level of hate ON BOTH SIDES. Republican HQ in Orange County (NC) firebombedYes, this is very disturbing and completely unacceptable. People are losing their damn minds.
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Post by Deleted on Oct 16, 2016 20:58:29 GMT
I think the GOP headquarters in Orange county , NC being firebombed is more concerning. Someone is going to get hurt or killed with this level of hate ON BOTH SIDES. Republican HQ in Orange County (NC) firebombedYes, this is very disturbing and completely unacceptable. People are losing their damn minds.
That is completely unacceptable but before anyone jumps to the conclusion that it was the "other side", just remember that The Donald has made his disgust known for the mainstream GOP and anyone in it that doesn't support him and with his numbers the way they are in N.C. right now, it makes more sense that one of his deplorables could have just as easily done this.
I could very well be wrong, but I'm going to wait to see just who is responsible for this bullshit.
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Post by anxiousmom on Oct 16, 2016 20:59:04 GMT
I think the GOP headquarters in Orange county , NC being firebombed is more concerning. Someone is going to get hurt or killed with this level of hate ON BOTH SIDES. It is terribly concerning...but as of yet, there is no one claiming responsibility so we don't know who to blame it on. It could be any affiliated or non-affiliated group, and we shouldn't jump to any conclusions as to who did it. The fact that it happened is awful but I don't think we can blame the Democrats or angry Republicans who feel like the party leadership is letting them down. I don't think we know enough yet.
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Post by Sam on Oct 16, 2016 21:08:43 GMT
Both sides are acting like children shouting in a playground - all this shit about 'hey, I got caught saying this, but he did that' and 'he can't act like a grown up and has oggled people' and 'oooh, if I did it, your husband did worse' followed by, 'but you SNIFF' and then 'YOU sniff coz you DID something' and 'you might not be physically well', REBUFFED BY 'and you are not Mentally well'. Not seeing much in terms of actual political retoric here - nor policies - or anything beyond personal attacks. Get a little class, folks, because you are, as a nation, coming across as an embarrassment right now. Our news-pages look more like something out of the National Enquirer than anything else - and that's the fault of your aspiring Presidential candidates AND their supporters.
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Post by peano on Oct 16, 2016 21:09:01 GMT
I think the GOP headquarters in Orange county , NC being firebombed is more concerning. Someone is going to get hurt or killed with this level of hate ON BOTH SIDES. The article you posted in no way involves Hillary supporters or Dems. The firebombing could have been done by disgruntled Republicans who've had it with the implosion of their party.
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Post by imsirius on Oct 16, 2016 21:21:21 GMT
Just read that now Trump wants SNL to stop the "hit job" on him and says the show is boring and irrelavent and should be off the air.
Shit hurts Don....screw YOUR feelings!
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Post by Deleted on Oct 16, 2016 21:31:21 GMT
That is completely unacceptable but before anyone jumps to the conclusion that it was the "other side", just remember that The Donald has made his disgust known for the mainstream GOP and anyone in it that doesn't support him and with his numbers the way they are in N.C. right now, it makes more sense that one of his deplorables could have just as easily done this.
I could very well be wrong, but I'm going to wait to see just who is responsible for this bullshit.
I'm not making any assumptions about who is responsible. Because, really, no matter what "side" those responsible are on, it doesn't matter. Right is right. Wrong is wrong. Violence is not ok. I'm simply acknowledging that this type of thing is very disturbing and it's wrong. Some things transcend politics and parties.
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Post by TheOtherMeg on Oct 16, 2016 21:39:03 GMT
These cretans aside, I wonder if there are any supporters out there who would like to jump ship, but won't because they've dug their heels in so hard up to this point, they are unable to admit they've made a mistake. I do think there's quite a lot of this. Ironically, the inability to admit to/take responsibility for a mistake is a hallmark of Trump himself. Save
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Post by flanz on Oct 16, 2016 21:41:34 GMT
I"m astonished at the true colours of people since Trump has run. It's like they now have permission to be as vile as they want because their candidate does. It's a sorry state of affairs. Truly! I'm astonished and horrified and disgusted and, and, and... I can read the last line. Anything interesting in the line above that?
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Post by Deleted on Oct 16, 2016 21:42:26 GMT
I sincerely hope I'm wrong, but a civil war of sorts after this election would not surprise me. For the past month or so, this has been my fear as well.
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Post by betty on Oct 16, 2016 21:47:52 GMT
I didn't post an article at all.
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Post by Deleted on Oct 16, 2016 21:49:20 GMT
That is completely unacceptable but before anyone jumps to the conclusion that it was the "other side", just remember that The Donald has made his disgust known for the mainstream GOP and anyone in it that doesn't support him and with his numbers the way they are in N.C. right now, it makes more sense that one of his deplorables could have just as easily done this.
I could very well be wrong, but I'm going to wait to see just who is responsible for this bullshit.
I'm not making any assumptions about who is responsible. Because, really, no matter what "side" those responsible are on, it doesn't matter. Right is right. Wrong is wrong. Violence is not ok. I'm simply acknowledging that this type of thing is very disturbing and it's wrong. Some things transcend politics and parties.
I didn't think you were making assumptions but the poster you previously quoted certainly was.....and my post didn't advocate that kind of violence, in fact I think I said it was completely unacceptable and it was bullshit. I also worry about violence happening election night and after, but I can confidently say that it isn't HRC leading that charge.
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Post by TheOtherMeg on Oct 16, 2016 21:50:09 GMT
The sad thing our youth are learning all this vile behavior, God help us all if Trump wins. Our youth are learning? ah. what age are you talking about? Because the youth are learning it not because of Trump running, but because of their parents, and how they have always been. Not because of the election. And that is why we are where we are. I have 2 college aged dd's. One is at a very politically involved college. Let me tell you, the youth, or young adults are VERY well informed. At least the college going ones. I don't necessarily think that youth are *learning* this behavior, as you're right, they learn that sort of thing at home (for the most part). I *do* think some people, including some youth, are having their feelings validated and "unshackled." Save
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Post by Deleted on Oct 16, 2016 21:50:37 GMT
I didn't post an article at all.
But you sure jumped to the conclusion that it was the other side or you wouldn't have capitalized ON BOTH SIDES.
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Post by papercrafteradvocate on Oct 16, 2016 21:50:53 GMT
I'm sorry, did I miss the photos of Hillary supporters wearing shirts that state "grab my pussy" or what this couple are wearing? If so I apologize. However, I'm talking about Trump directly influencing these behaviours and people feeling okay to spew their crappy outlook BECAUSE HE DOES. How about violence against Trump supporters: What's their excuse? I have not seen, read, heard--to this date--Hillary Clinton (or anyone on her staff for that matter) encourage supporters to be violent, take matters into their own hands, or rile up her supporters revolt/revolution if she doesn't get her way, stand watch at polling locations suggesting that her supporters take matters into their own hands if they think "rigging" is going on, or clearly state that she could shoot someone in the street and get away with it. Trump HAS. (And he's getting worse) I've never said that the idiots are all one sided, however there is more of a violent, threatening bunch, being riled into a frenzy like Trump does at his rallies. You've become a "Trump surrogate" with your constant, 100% predictable responses on just about every single Trump thread. You ALWAYS deflect any of his abhorrent behavior back to Hillary. And--just yesterday you were crying foul about the Hillary supporters referencing Trump/Republican supporters in a negative light, and your posts here show you doing EXACTLY the same thing to Hillary/Democrat supporters. ETA: watched your "violent" video. No one attacked anyone, touched them without their permission, no pushing, shoving.
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Post by Deleted on Oct 16, 2016 22:02:08 GMT
I'm not making any assumptions about who is responsible. Because, really, no matter what "side" those responsible are on, it doesn't matter. Right is right. Wrong is wrong. Violence is not ok. I'm simply acknowledging that this type of thing is very disturbing and it's wrong. Some things transcend politics and parties.
I didn't think you were making assumptions but the poster you previously quoted certainly was.....and my post didn't advocate that kind of violence, in fact I think I said it was completely unacceptable and it was bullshit. I also worry about violence happening election night and after, but I can confidently say that it isn't HRC leading that charge.
Gotcha. I didn't think you were advocating or excusing anything. And I agree with you that HRC isn't purposefully inciting people the way Trump is. I also thought the pp was blaming the "other side" and was just trying to remind her that plenty of people on that "other side" are not ok with violence b/c of political disagreement. The sad truth about this entire election is that no matter who wins or loses, serious damage has been done.
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Post by Deleted on Oct 16, 2016 22:12:56 GMT
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Post by Deleted on Oct 16, 2016 22:16:58 GMT
I didn't post an article at all. And that's why I did. Your post sounded accusatory toward one side, and I wanted to see what you were referring to. I linked the first story that came up for me in a search.
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Post by betty on Oct 16, 2016 22:19:55 GMT
Yeah, the ON BOTH SIDES really is accusatory.
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Post by Deleted on Oct 16, 2016 22:26:57 GMT
Yeah, the ON BOTH SIDES really is accusatory. No, it's not. But you implying that there was evidence that a "side" had done it was just more tit for tat.
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Post by scrapngranny on Oct 16, 2016 22:34:27 GMT
I'm hoping both candidates will advocate putting our differences aside for the good of the country after the election. Stirring up hate is not going to help anything. I'm not holding my breath, but it would be refreshing after all the acrimony of the last year.
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Post by Really Red on Oct 16, 2016 22:36:20 GMT
The thing is, is that Trump advocates this kind of stuff and revels in it. When crazy Democrats do it, people are disgusted and condemn it. And therein lies the difference.
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Post by peano on Oct 16, 2016 22:37:59 GMT
I didn't post an article at all. I stand corrected although obviously I was responding to your post "...with this level of hate ON BOTH SIDES" I'm growing weary of the sort of tit for tat, "yeah but what about" bullshit on these political threads of people trying to defend the indefensible. Bombing is not a partisan issue. It's criminal behavior.
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Post by Deleted on Oct 16, 2016 22:40:51 GMT
I'm hoping both candidates will advocate putting our differences aside for the good of the country after the election. Stirring up hate is not going to help anything. I'm not holding my breath, but it would be refreshing after all the acrimony of the last year. I'm afraid that's the impossible dream with Trump. This article is really disturbing: Warnings of conspiracy stoke anger among Trump faithful
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Post by mollycoddle on Oct 16, 2016 22:44:29 GMT
Just incredible.
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Post by freecharlie on Oct 16, 2016 22:49:00 GMT
I sincerely hope I'm wrong, but a civil war of sorts after this election would not surprise me. For the past month or so, this has been my fear as well. I can't imagine the American public having that much energy to have a civil war. We are an apathetic bunch using fb and twitter to retweet someone else's thoughts. If it did, however, you'd hear "I told you so" from every gun nut in the land.
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