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Post by farmdpea on Nov 10, 2016 16:06:38 GMT
Are we going to have the battle of YouTube videos now? I just don't see how that is going to get us anywhere.
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Post by missmiss on Nov 10, 2016 16:44:30 GMT
Like I said both sides have the dregs. We can post videos all day long of both sides. Still trying to figure out why a video was posted in the first place.
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Post by papercrafteradvocate on Nov 10, 2016 16:53:50 GMT
My 16 y.o. son is having a hard time dealing with the results. As a person with a lifelong disability, I don't blame him. We have had a couple of talks with him yesterday, but he is still depressed. It is less about the election results, per se, and more about what it says about our culture that our new President thinks it is okay to make fun of people like him. This. I am still in disbelief that he was actually elected. After the downright ugliness, hatefulness, and just plan disgusting behavior.... (that first to him not having a plan for anything, and those snippets of plans he has will cause massive taxes and debt)
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Post by MichyM on Nov 10, 2016 16:56:20 GMT
I am a volunteer tutor at a local elementary school predominately serving underprivileged kids. Today is my volunteer day and I expect that the kids will have this first and foremost on their minds. I can see where a counselor would be helpful. I don't imagine we'll be getting much "real work" done today as we take our cues from the kids and what's going on with them.
ETA: we are supposed to serve as mentors to these kids, so the not getting a lot of work done today is not due to lack of control, it's being sensitive to their needs.
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Post by Deleted on Nov 10, 2016 17:03:47 GMT
On the one hand, this was a presidential election and as far as I know, this kind of thing has never been done in the wake of an election before, so I am not tremendously in favor of it. Despite the fact that I am definitely not a Trump supporter, my gut reaction is that this is not setting a good precedent.
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I have seen and heard the fear from my son's friends. The Hispanic kids who are worried part or all of their family will be deported. My Somali neighbor who wonders whether her daughters need to stop wearing their traditional attire and start wearing American-style clothes. Those kids have legitimate fears and concerns based on what was promised during the campaign, and they may well need some help processing it. We'd provide school-based counseling if there were other major events that made many kids feel insecure, so maybe this is the right thing to do.
I really don't have an answer, I guess. I see both sides.
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Post by PLurker on Nov 10, 2016 17:05:41 GMT
I have heard of several situations now where people said racist things to other kids at school (my mom is a guidance counselor in Iowa and she said she heard of at least three different schools hat have had this happen now, and it was on the news that racist, anti-immigrant things were found in a MN high school). A friend of a friend was also the victim of a hate crime yesterday in which she was run off the road, called names for being a lesbian, and then they pulled out lighter fluid and a lighter and said, "go trump". These are real situations and people have real fear based on what trump has said and how people are acting it out. Maybe you can show this video to your kids and they will feel better, there is a bunch more just like it. It can't be a tit-for-tat thing! There are good and bad in people in general- on both sides of this election. They(these instances) don't cancel each other out. There is nothing wrong, I think, than give the kids a safe outlet when they need it. They may be experiencing or hurting in ways you or I don't understand. Just because you or I may not feel that pain doesn't make it any less real for the people feeling it. ETA I posted this before reading rest of thread (sorry) and I see it has become a "well look at this one from the other side" video war. How is that going to help. They both exist and shouldn't. Go from there
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Post by Darcy Collins on Nov 10, 2016 17:40:21 GMT
My email and facebook is full of adults processing this election. A lot of people took it extremely hard and on a very personal level. The level of vitriol and general ugliness of this election is truly unprecedented. I have no doubt there are children who are confused and scared. Of all the things to worry about today, a school deciding their students needed extra support is way, way down on my list.
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Post by femalebusiness on Nov 10, 2016 19:02:24 GMT
I live in the Boston area, and there was a news clip saying that a school in Boston is going to have counselors in the school today for any student or teacher that wants to talk about the election. Give me a break! Pearls of wisdom from another dumb ass.
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Post by carly on Nov 10, 2016 19:28:18 GMT
I live in the Boston area, and there was a news clip saying that a school in Boston is going to have counselors in the school today for any student or teacher that wants to talk about the election. Give me a break! Pearls of wisdom from another dumb ass. You miscalculated the dumbasses.
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Post by ~Lauren~ on Nov 10, 2016 19:30:08 GMT
And here we are, the up-and-coming group of wienies with no life-coping skills.
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Post by MichyM on Nov 10, 2016 19:30:48 GMT
I'm just going to add a bit to my previous post. I just checked email. I have 4 new documents to read about how to work with the kids regarding the election before I go in to tutor today. The schools clearly are seeing a lot of concern from the children.
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Post by freebird on Nov 10, 2016 19:41:06 GMT
I think it's a bad idea because it just reinforces the idea of us vs them. That they are victims. That something will change if they are cry or upset. All valid feelings that should be handled at home. I think it would be better served to teach them how the political system works. That sometimes we are lead by someone we don't like, how we should learn to handle that situation. half our problems are because we raised a bunch of coddled snowflakes that can not function in the real world.
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Post by jonda1974 on Nov 10, 2016 19:42:01 GMT
Personally I think this is great. I remember the devastation many felt on the board when Obama was elected in 2008. There were protests and a tea-party that sprang up as a result. I would expect no difference. I applaud peaceful protesting. These people need to be heard, and children need to be reassured. Yes, we do have an epidemic of "snowflake" syndrome in this country, where our children are unable to cope with or handle difficult situations. However, I do think that this election warrants opportunities to express fear, frustration and anger, and those whose candidate won, need to be gracious and understanding in victory.
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Post by femalebusiness on Nov 10, 2016 19:48:10 GMT
Pearls of wisdom from another dumb ass. You miscalculated the dumbasses. And here is the problem that I have with your nonsense, the OP wasn't talking about grown ass adults whining, she was belittling scared children. Your comprehension has failed you.
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Post by elaine on Nov 10, 2016 19:54:46 GMT
My email and facebook is full of adults processing this election. A lot of people took it extremely hard and on a very personal level. The level of vitriol and general ugliness of this election is truly unprecedented. I have no doubt there are children who are confused and scared. Of all the things to worry about today, a school deciding their students needed extra support is way, way down on my list. Thank you, Darcy. I know that we disagree on quite a bit, and I wanted to let you know this touched me.
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Post by scrapsotime on Nov 10, 2016 20:00:17 GMT
Pearls of wisdom from another dumb ass. You miscalculated the dumbasses. I have seen people crying when their candidate lost in just about every election since I started paying attention to the elections, which was in 1976. Dumbasses or just an emotional time for people in either party?
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Post by secondlife on Nov 10, 2016 20:26:35 GMT
Pearls of wisdom from another dumb ass. You miscalculated the dumbasses. Wow - here is the ultimate example of the compassion and kindness I hope is displayed in our society, regardless of political party.
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Post by carly on Nov 10, 2016 20:31:15 GMT
You miscalculated the dumbasses. Wow - here is the ultimate example of the compassion and kindness I hope is displayed in our society, regardless of political party. I know right, calling people dumbass.
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Post by Deleted on Nov 10, 2016 20:36:41 GMT
I don't know who the heck thinks that scared kids who don't understand adult concepts are wienies. What the hell does that mean? We're talking about little kids who hear our president elect saying it's okay to just grab someone by the pussy. What the fuck are you talking about them being wienies.
I really have to say that I have two college aged kids who are fabulous people. Smart, hard working, thoughtful, politically involved, great kids. I don't know a single one of their friends who are wienies. They're too busy working hard to make the world a better place and getting an education and supporting themselves. Get over yourself and your self indulgent assieness claiming that kids these days are worse than when you were a kid. You're full of shit (whoever it was that was saying this crap.)
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Post by gmcwife1 on Nov 10, 2016 20:43:38 GMT
Personally I think this is great. I remember the devastation many felt on the board when Obama was elected in 2008. There were protests and a tea-party that sprang up as a result. I would expect no difference. I applaud peaceful protesting. These people need to be heard, and children need to be reassured. Yes, we do have an epidemic of "snowflake" syndrome in this country, where our children are unable to cope with or handle difficult situations. However, I do think that this election warrants opportunities to express fear, frustration and anger, and those whose candidate won, need to be gracious and understanding in victory. What a great perspective and nice thing to say My family is brown, my 17 yr old dd's boyfriend is trans and my dh voted for Trump. We have had discussions in our household and in her government class for months. Neither dd or her boyfriend are upset, they are both asking questions and curious about what is going on.
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Post by refugeepea on Nov 10, 2016 20:45:21 GMT
Any other election, I would say get over it but the words that have come out of Trump's own mouth are terrifying for almost anyone who isn't a white man.
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Post by secondlife on Nov 10, 2016 20:53:36 GMT
Wow - here is the ultimate example of the compassion and kindness I hope is displayed in our society, regardless of political party. I know right, calling people dumbass. Oh honey, no.
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Post by carly on Nov 10, 2016 20:58:52 GMT
I know right, calling people dumbass. Oh honey, no. I ain't yo honey, but I am one of dos unedumaicated Trump voters.
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Post by carly on Nov 10, 2016 20:59:18 GMT
I know right, calling people dumbass. Oh honey, no. Hey isn't that racist?
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Post by jonda1974 on Nov 10, 2016 22:03:44 GMT
Any other election, I would say get over it but the words that have come out of Trump's own mouth are terrifying for almost anyone who isn't a white man. What a completely prejudicial thing to say. I'm a white man and I find his words beyond reprehensible.
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Post by refugeepea on Nov 10, 2016 23:43:41 GMT
Any other election, I would say get over it but the words that have come out of Trump's own mouth are terrifying for almost anyone who isn't a white man. What a completely prejudicial thing to say. I'm a white man and I find his words beyond reprehensible. Prejudicial? He's mocked people with disabilities, made racist statements,...... and the list goes on and on. I'm saying I think the *only* group of people he hasn't spit on is white men. Then again if a white man says anything against him, they are a loser. He's a total ass to anyone who doesn't agree with him. So, you're right. I'm wrong. You win.
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Post by not2peased on Nov 10, 2016 23:52:26 GMT
I live in the Boston area, and there was a news clip saying that a school in Boston is going to have counselors in the school today for any student or teacher that wants to talk about the election. Give me a break! is that how you react when friends or family say they need to speak to a therapist because of something that is upsetting them? you are coming across like a gigantic jerk. my friend's 6 year old daughter burst into tears when she heard Trump won because she "is a girl" and is afraid. another friend's son was told he was going to be sent back to his home country if Trump won (he is adopted from overseas) the fear and upset are real-a lot of people now think it's ok to be xenophobic, racist and mysoginistic. while the bubble you live in must be nice and cozy, not everyone has the same sense of safety and room to be snarky that you apparently feel.
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Post by not2peased on Nov 10, 2016 23:56:42 GMT
And here we are, the up-and-coming group of wienies with no life-coping skills. yeah, because talking to a therapist to help process things that are upsetting makes you a "wienie"
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Post by ~Lauren~ on Nov 11, 2016 0:00:21 GMT
Depends on why you need the counseling: loss of a friend or parent, major national disaster such as a flood, hurricane etc.
When that thing is an election; yes. You are a weinie.
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Post by ~Lauren~ on Nov 11, 2016 0:01:33 GMT
Well, you can thank the ignorant and chicken little adults that said these things to these children.
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