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Post by scrappinghappy on Aug 10, 2014 19:45:28 GMT
What are your thoughts on the humanitarian crisis in Iraq and what do you think can be done about it? Do you think that the USA and UK should get involved? If so, what should be done?
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Post by Sam on Aug 10, 2014 19:50:30 GMT
What are your thoughts on the humanitarian crisis in Iraq and what do you think can be done about it? Do you think that the USA and UK should get involved? If so, what should be done? Because they have both posted on certain threads? Why don't you ask on those threads and if you want to gain more opinion start a new thread asking in general? I'm not overly impressed with your approach on this, to be honest.
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Post by anniebygaslight on Aug 10, 2014 19:57:17 GMT
What are your thoughts on the humanitarian crisis in Iraq and what do you think can be done about it? Do you think that the USA and UK should get involved? If so, what should be done? Because they have both posted on certain threads? Why don't you ask on those threads and if you want to gain more opinion start a new thread asking in general? I'm not overly impressed with your approach on this, to be honest. Me neither. Why single them out?
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Post by scrappinghappy on Aug 10, 2014 19:57:48 GMT
I don't want to change the subject on those threads. So I started a new thread.
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Post by cindyupnorth on Aug 10, 2014 19:59:32 GMT
Why not start a thread with that title? or do you only want to hear from them?
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Post by scrappinghappy on Aug 10, 2014 19:59:34 GMT
Because they have strong humanitarian opinions and I want to know what they are here. I'd like to hear EVERYONES opinions. The previous thread I started on this subject was barely noticed before falling into oblivion.
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Post by scrappinghappy on Aug 10, 2014 20:00:23 GMT
Cindyupnorth, go for it. What do you think?
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Post by marianne on Aug 10, 2014 20:02:16 GMT
Because they have strong humanitarian opinions and I want to know what they are here. I'd like to hear EVERYONES opinions. The previous thread I started on this subject was barely noticed before falling into oblivion. Maybe because no one was interested in starting a whole new dialogue...
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Post by Sam on Aug 10, 2014 20:04:52 GMT
I'd like to hear EVERYONES opinions. Bollocks - you put up a 'CALL OUT' thread to a couple of posters and then say you want everyone's opinion? Yeah. Sell me a bridge while you're at it why don't you. I would have no objection to your post if it were not so disingenuous.
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Post by scrappinghappy on Aug 10, 2014 20:05:36 GMT
Because they have strong humanitarian opinions and I want to know what they are here. I'd like to hear EVERYONES opinions. The previous thread I started on this subject was barely noticed before falling into oblivion. Maybe because no one was interested in starting a whole new dialogue... That is just sad! If you were truely a humanitarian, that would not be your answer. Why are the Christians in Iraq worth less than the Palestinians in Gaza.
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Post by scrappinghappy on Aug 10, 2014 20:08:02 GMT
Sam, should I add your name to the call out. Will you answer the question if I do?
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Post by back to *pea*ality on Aug 10, 2014 20:12:27 GMT
Well this didn't go very well.
I think it is a topic worthy of discussion. But I don't think calling out certain people is the way to start a discussion on a serious subject.
As far as your other thread, I didn't see it. Weekends are busy in the summer, vacations, etc and the peas that engage in political topics are a small subset of the board. Maybe try again on Monday.
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Post by Sam on Aug 10, 2014 20:13:27 GMT
Sam, should I add your name to the call out. Will you answer the question if I do? What are your ideas? Deflect, deflect, deflect doesn't work with me, honey! I still say that if you TRULY want to know (and more importantly understand) opinion, you don't target a couple of people. If you want a discussion, you invite all. If you thought you could be all bitchy and clever, you need to understand your audience. I would more than happily have entered into a balanced discussion with you had you not labelled your post the way you did and not have seen your responses on other threads.
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Post by marianne on Aug 10, 2014 20:13:43 GMT
scrappinghappy Are you always this condescending or is it just on Sundays in August? gah!
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Post by scrappinghappy on Aug 10, 2014 20:30:15 GMT
"Bitchy" and "condescending" because I called out two people who's opinions I'd really like to hear?
Talk about deflection. No one here has expressed an opinion yet other than that I did something wrong.
This isn't a political thread. I am not out to make anyone look bad. I have sleepless nights and throw up when I contemplate the violence currently going on in the world. I have no idea how to fix it. Can it even be fixed?
Yet you presume. Please don't walk in my shoes. Don't project your reaction, bitchiness, condescension etc on to me. You don't know me, you don't understand me and I am sorry if I came across as either of those things.
So again, if you have something to say that will help me understand the world I/we live in and how we can make it better, please, I'd love to hear it.
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Post by Deleted on Aug 10, 2014 20:34:12 GMT
"I have sleepless nights and throw up when I contemplate the violence currently going on in the world."
If world violence is affecting your health, I think the last thing you need to be doing is 'calling out' people on an anonymous message board for discussion. Sounds like you need to take a break and concentrate on your well-being.
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Post by Sam on Aug 10, 2014 20:38:54 GMT
"Bitchy" and "condescending" because I called out two people who's opinions I'd really like to hear? Talk about deflection. No one here has expressed an opinion yet other than that I did something wrong. This isn't a political thread. I am not out to make anyone look bad. I have sleepless nights and throw up when I contemplate the violence currently going on in the world. I have no idea how to fix it. Can it even be fixed? Yet you presume. Please don't walk in my shoes. Don't project your reaction, bitchiness, condescension etc on to me. You don't know me, you don't understand me and I am sorry if I came across as either of those things. So again, if you have something to say that will help me understand the world I/we live in and how we can make it better, please, I'd love to hear it. I've read your posts. I don't want to walk in your shoes, and, please, don't imagine that I am so naive as to believe that you did not have an agenda when you posted your thread. I know exactly what you meant when you posted and you can back-peddle as much as you like, but I'll remember. BTW - what are YOUR thoughts on the humanitarian crisis in Iraq and what do you think can be done about it? I don't remember you sharing.
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Post by marianne on Aug 10, 2014 20:49:17 GMT
You know, scrappinghappy, that door swings both ways. Don't presume to walk in my shoes either. You know diddly-squat about me and yet you feel you can question my humanitarianism because it doesn't measure up to yours? Because I don't walk around angst-ridden like you? And you don't think that's condescending or bitchy? Let me be the first to inform you that yes, yes it is, and yes, you do come across that way. So please, spare me your projection accusation. In order to try and understand the world we live in, perhaps a major dose of reality would be high on the list of priorities. You cannot save the world, and all of your sleepless, vomitus-filled contemplation isn't going to change a damn thing in Iraq, anymore than discussing it on a message board will. It just isn't all that productive, you know?
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Post by scrappinghappy on Aug 10, 2014 20:51:14 GMT
Really, Sam, Really?!? Um, ok.
I have no idea what can be done. I don't know if anything CAN be done. I think things have gone too far, too fast. It may just have to play out over the next decades.
I am meeting my family for dinner soon. This will be the main topic of discussion. My SIL, MY Muslim SIL in case you're keeping a spreadsheet, has family in Iran and a cousin in Iraq. We are meeting (each of us driving over 3 hours to meet in the middle) so we can strategize and see if we can figure out a way to get her parents, aunts and uncles and their families and cousin out of the ME and over here. It is just not safe anymore.
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Post by mollycoddle on Aug 10, 2014 20:54:34 GMT
I was relieved that we decided to help. ISIS is an unspeakable evil. I read that the Brits were beginning humanitarian aid, and I hope that other allies follow suit.
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Post by Deleted on Aug 10, 2014 20:55:26 GMT
Wow your first call out, now that is an achievement.You must be so proud of yourself.
Were you aware that there are 3,294 registered members on this board and you are asking the opinion of just two particular members. Sorry, I don't happen to be that arrogant in thinking that my opinion would be that important to you but I'm sure if you keep searching Google you might come across someone else's. Good luck!
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Post by Sam on Aug 10, 2014 21:16:03 GMT
Really, Sam, Really?!? Um, ok. I have no idea what can be done. I don't know if anything CAN be done. I think things have gone too far, too fast. It may just have to play out over the next decades. I am meeting my family for dinner soon. This will be the main topic of discussion. My SIL, MY Muslim SIL in case you're keeping a spreadsheet, has family in Iran and a cousin in Iraq. We are meeting (each of us driving over 3 hours to meet in the middle) so we can strategize and see if we can figure out a way to get her parents, aunts and uncles and their families and cousin out of the ME and over here. It is just not safe anymore. If you have NO IDEA, why do you expect others to?? I don't give a shit about the ethnicity of your family...you know why? I live in a part of England which is highly populated with all kinds of people from all kinds of background, so you can take the whole 'we are so special' or 'we are Muslim' and shove it. That's everyday in my community as well. I wish your family all the very best, and safe passage out of the ME.
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Post by cindyupnorth on Aug 10, 2014 21:24:21 GMT
" It is just not safe anymore."
When HAS it been safe?!
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Post by Deleted on Aug 10, 2014 21:59:18 GMT
Honestly if the current world events keep you up and make you vomit you need help. Quickly. That is just not normal. At all.
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Post by BarbaraUK on Aug 10, 2014 22:01:22 GMT
scrappinghappy,
Nothing leads me to believe that you had no agenda when posting this thread, especially in view of your recent posts. Sorry, but a CALL OUT thread to two people is no way to start a discussion on the subject you had in mind and you would have to be very naive to seriously think it would, so I can only sadly conclude that you had something else in mind.
I hope you had a pleasant dinner with your family and that you are able to resolve the problems for the family in the ME quickly and safely.
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Post by AmeliaBloomer on Aug 10, 2014 22:22:10 GMT
Maybe because no one was interested in starting a whole new dialogue... That is just sad! If you were truely a humanitarian, that would not be your answer. Why are the Christians in Iraq worth less than the Palestinians in Gaza. (Bold mine.) I doubt I'm alone in disagreeing that the measure of "true" humanitarianism is willingness to get embroiled in a (possibly contentious) political thread on this discussion board. Yes, even if personally invited. But: True grit? True folly? Okay, maybe.
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Post by Deleted on Aug 10, 2014 23:04:46 GMT
Honestly if the current world events keep you up and make you vomit you need help. Quickly. That is just not normal. At all. Oh, I don't know. I think that's what going on in Iraq is terrifying. I don't know if the reports are true, but it is being reported that women and children are being buried alive.. I do agree it is horrifying but still feel it isn't normal to be that physically affected by it.
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Post by marianne on Aug 10, 2014 23:05:40 GMT
Honestly if the current world events keep you up and make you vomit you need help. Quickly. That is just not normal. At all. Oh, I don't know. I think that's what going on in Iraq is terrifying. I don't know if the reports are true, but it is being reported that women and children are being buried alive.. Of course it's terrifying. Most of the crap that goes on in the ME is terrifying, but there's not a whole lot you or I or scrappinghappy can do about it, individually. Collectively, who knows, but to sit here, in the safety of your corner of the world in the US, and be terrified of what's happening in Iraq is, to put it mildly, overstating your concern and humanitarianism, and doesn't make a whole lot of sense. Being empathetic and caring is one thing, being terrified is... well, not normal. Not in the context of this particular issue.
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Post by Deleted on Aug 10, 2014 23:19:55 GMT
"Bitchy" and "condescending" because I called out two people who's opinions I'd really like to hear?Talk about deflection. No one here has expressed an opinion yet other than that I did something wrong.This isn't a political thread. I am not out to make anyone look bad. I have sleepless nights and throw up when I contemplate the violence currently going on in the world. I have no idea how to fix it. Can it even be fixed? Yet you presume. Please don't walk in my shoes. Don't project your reaction, bitchiness, condescension etc on to me. You don't know me, you don't understand me and I am sorry if I came across as either of those things. So again, if you have something to say that will help me understand the world I/we live in and how we can make it better, please, I'd love to hear it. Do you know what "call out" means? Because it IS about being bitchy and condescending
If you want a discussion, and everyone's opinions, why haven't you expressed an opinion on the humanitarian crisis in Iraq?
Once again, are you sure you understand what a call out is? They are totally about making someone look bad.
Sorry, but I think this whole thread is just weird. I'd like to think that you didn't really understand the meaning of callout, but I could swear you were a long-time pea, so that's kind of hard to believe.
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Post by mollycoddle on Aug 10, 2014 23:23:56 GMT
Oh, I don't know. I think that's what going on in Iraq is terrifying. I don't know if the reports are true, but it is being reported that women and children are being buried alive.. Of course it's terrifying. Most of the crap that goes on in the ME is terrifying, but there's not a whole lot you or I or scrappinghappy can do about it, individually. Collectively, who knows, but to sit here, in the safety of your corner of the world in the US, and be terrified of what's happening in Iraq is, to put it mildly, overstating your concern and humanitarianism, and doesn't make a whole lot of sense. Being empathetic and caring is one thing, being terrified is... well, not normal. Not in the context of this particular issue. I disagree. This is the new Cold War. These creatures used to be Al Qaeda, but were too extreme for them. They are bent on establishing a Caliphate. They have threatened the US. They are a whole new breed of fanatic.
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